Ecko's St141 wagon

[ecko]

So thought id make a thread so as everyone knew why i was on here when i dont own a sprinter

Bought this around a year ago when i sold my Jza80:crying:
bought from the original owner
8554
8555


thats how it was when i got it ,
bog stock (but fully optioned)
2sc 5 speed 200k

Since then i've done the following,

new heater core :shout:
water pump
leads plugs oils etc

front super low kings springs with heavy duty gabriel shocks
new tie rods ends and rack ends
new ball joints and LCA bushes
castor rod bushes
rear is monroe sensatrac sh#t with some random heavy duty springs i found in another wrecked wagon,
and adjustable panhard rod

its now got 14x6 hotwires
and a $10 nardi (thanks biggo)
oh yeah and some hectik stickers

also have had 2 minor understeer moments causing the front left guard and front bar (now avante) to be replaced twice lol

as it stands today

8556
8557


Very near future planned mods are

Extended control arms (in shed awaiting instalation)
camber tops (shopping for now)
Hardrace ae86 castor arms

front will get ae86 springs and st185 excel g shocks
rear either vl wagon Short stroke bilsteins or ae86 coilover shocks
convert to w series gearbox and ra60 diff

then a new motor

[Konakid]

Get this thing happening.

[ecko]

wow its been a while

so this weekend im hopefully fitting,
st185 excelg in ma61 struts with ma61 brake
ra60 steering arms
extended control arms
ra60 springs
AJPS lock spacer
Commodore wagon shocks in rear
welded avanti disc brake diff,


i also have a 2jzge waiting with front sump got bellhousing flywheel and clutch just need a gearbox but no rush on that atm
recently car has got
dildo shifter
nardi
has a pair of ma61 14x7's on the front soon to hopefully be a full set,

pics soon

[ecko]

all parts above suspension wise installed,

2sc currently being removed 2jzge and w58 should be done within a few weeks

[ecko]

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/3207/corona2.th.jpg (http://img337.imageshack.us/i/corona2.jpg/)
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/2/2/4/5/57677.jpg (http://img813.imageshack.us/i/corona1i.jpg/)

[svenmate]

Looks mint! 2j would be a pleasant upgrade :)

[AJPS]

really good!

corona wagons can be good!

did you get camber tops in?

[macca1590]

2j would be off tap!!! hope w58 handles it, but i suppose light car and smaller tires will help

wont ma61 struts give you a wack camber angle or will your camber tops and lca's bring it back to a ok angle?

[AJPS]

2j would be off tap!!! hope w58 handles it, but i suppose light car and smaller tires will help

wont ma61 struts give you a wack camber angle or will your camber tops and lca's bring it back to a ok angle?

the 2j is NA

[macca1590]

ahhh i see, my bad

still would be pritty sic thoe

[ecko]

no camber tops yet
with the ma61 struts they do give positive camber so basically they should cancel out the extra control arm camber
well it did on the passenger side, drivers not so much,
got some kmac camber and castor adjustable tops that will be in soon

and yeah as dave said 2jzge so w58 is standard fitment however i only have a corona w58 not a supra one so its slighly weaker but lighter body should make it ok

[ecko]

progress
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/2/2/4/5/58153.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/i/img0117lu.jpg/)
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/2/2/4/5/58154.jpg (http://img703.imageshack.us/i/img0118c.jpg/)
http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/6861/img01190.th.jpg (http://img695.imageshack.us/i/img01190.jpg/)
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/882/img01210.th.jpg (http://img340.imageshack.us/i/img01210.jpg/)

also some pics of the fuel tanks
efi rona on the left ma61 on the right Ma61 will be going in

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/2/2/4/5/58157.jpg (http://img12.imageshack.us/i/img0120c0.jpg/)

[Jdm-Mcc]

Fuckin dope!

[Pidgey]

This is rather cool!
Why the 2J though?

[ecko]

why not?

[Pidgey]

Pretty good answer... :)
You're going to blow the pants off many for this, so cool!
Needs vids when it's on the road.

[ecko]

vids will be aplenty,
yeah its staying fairly low profile so may shock a few and red light GP

[joeschmo_57]

how much heavier is a 2j than a 2s?

[ecko]

im guessing around 40kg maybe,
but ride height doesnt seem to have changed yet

[machg]

The 2jz should transform this car. Hopefully the extra weight over the front axle line won't hurt the handling too much. I guess the massive power and torque increase will increase the availability of oversteer regardless, lol

[ae71]

and yeah as dave said 2jzge so w58 is standard fitment however i only have a corona w58 not a supra one so its slighly weaker but lighter body should make it ok

what makes you think this?

FYI corona didnt come with w58, it had w55.

edit: i think you will have a battle to break one anyway unless you drive it like a fool.

[ecko]

corona did come with w58 aaron the one i have came from another rona ratio has been checked it is a w58 alloy case but still a w58

[ae71]

just because it has one, doesnt nessesarly mean it is one.

could have been replaced with a ma61 w58 at some stage in its life. surely the original build plate denotes the actual box code next to the trans/axle part....?

edit: also what makes you think that a w58 is stronger then a w55? just curious to know. w57 was RUMORED to have larger bearings but other then that i have not seen any evidence to show that any model is stronger or weaker then another.

[ecko]

yeah build plate also said w58,

the only w58 that was stronger afaik is the ma70 and jza80 steel case,
the rest are all the same strength only different ratios, i can check the bearings at work tomorrow

[ecko]

slowly getting there few bits of wiring, fuel setup,exhaust and rear brake upgrade are all thats left
hoping to have done by this time next weekend

here a pick to show front clearance, or lackof

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/2/2/4/5/59068.jpg (http://img27.imageshack.us/i/photo3jx.jpg/)

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[KurtHS]

A bit OT but how did the 2SC actually go in that thing?

Looks sick man, shows you can have a cool looking sled but still be low profile.

[Bustin_86]

Will you be moving the engine back?

[ecko]

engine is already 30mm further bacl the it really should be theres no more room to move,

2sc wasnt too bad it had enough guts to tow a s13 on full car trailer up one of the steepest highways in the area
once they start to wear out tho they're shit

[ecko]

getting very close to done now
exhaust needs making/fitting from down pipe back
only minor radiator bits and ecu mountung to be done

amazing toyota interchangabiliy meant
jza80 throttle cable worked fine
ma61 fuel tank fitted fine

moved under 2jzge power today

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyxwvjXiAHY

[Pidgey]

A bit OT but how did the 2SC actually go in that thing?

I had one in my corona, auto, with 240k.
It was a complete slug but had a surprisingly fun rev-band.
And after valve-bouncing it for approximately 10 minutes on the spot on several occasions, it was still completely fine. Toyota tough :)

On topic, you work so fast man, love it.

[ecko]

cant make anyclaims for the fast work,
allive done so far is fit acel cable and interior trims

Lloyd smith is the man.. or boy

[Jono.C]

haha wow, i never knew this was getting a 2j! Looks great, any problems getting the 2j in?

[ecko]

Got radiator mounted and working today,filled with water and flush agent to clean out system
whole car is mostly done just need to buy mufflers and piping
had to swap ma61 fuel sender for corona one as digi one wouldnt work with anologue corona one
alternator light needs fixing as isnt working

quick private road test,
please excuse Rb30 sounding lack of exhaust
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwymEvWhXcc

[Jono.C]

Gee, Looks to pick up pretty quick from 20 - 130ish!

[ecko]

speedo is out due to diff gears

[ae71]

id second that ^

they are stupidly quick for a "normal" 3L motor

interesting about it having a factory w58!

[Sturgey]

yeh jza80 supras had a 2jz-ge with a w58 5 speed

[ae71]

yeh jza80 supras had a 2jz-ge with a w58 5 speed

what?

i was referring to the corona having a factory fitted w58 ya turkey, read up the page

[ecko]

yeah the avante's in rt142 guise had w58 not avante had w55 i beleive

[Sturgey]

yeh realised that after i posted aaron but cbfed changing it xD

[ecko]

Well its back in my hands and mostly done

things to finish off
Mount ecu- currently pushed against passenger kick panel, i need to fit it properly with some new brackets and then fit glovebox and trim,

oil dipstick, not properly fitted needs new oring and fitting to side of manifold,

replaced coolant flush with toyota red- Will try to do friday arvo
Replace oil- got some standard toyota atm just cleaning out motor replacing with mobile 15-40 semi synthetic replace filter too

Drive belt is squealing like a mother bitch, unsure what to do there the belt is routed wierdly due to no PS but running AC any ideas?

new radiator soon. thermos also not working atm hopfully just a faulty relay,

brakes still soft will try bleeding again,again,again

also odometer trip meter wont reset strangely ,but would do fine before conversion

then tarago diff

Latest pics will get a video when belt is fixed

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/2/2/4/5/59553.jpg (http://img560.imageshack.us/i/photo7e.jpg/)

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/2/2/4/5/59554.jpg (http://img825.imageshack.us/i/photo8ic.jpg/)

[ecko]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EiV8nL5acs

[Konakid]

4th gear all day!

[ecko]

Here's some 22r love for u mate sc14 power


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjXJtMyrknI

[ae71]

road test was a better watch

[ecko]

im guessing youd prefer drifting? me too but my diff doesnt reliably spin 2 so there was no point trying

[ecko]

someone buy me

[ke_70]

what did you end up doing with the exhaust? was is much of a pain to dodge the steering shaft?

was there any tunnel and firewall mods?

[ecko]

standard extractors with custom downpipe,
no firewall or tunnel mods

[ecko]

no real updates at all, bout to start a new job earning some decent money so i can start killing my shopping list,
koyo 2core radiator (very close to standard thickness but 40%more cooling)
2 craig davies 12" thermo's
some guages
r31 diff with disc brake
ae86 coilovers

all providing it doesnt sell,
After around $5.5k if anyone is interested,

may swap

[Konakid]

Go f series, can get LSD's that actually work + better ratio's.

[ecko]

going r31 as cheap. already disc brake meaning dont need to spend hours converting to disc, plenty around, aftermarket lsd available

anyway the car got some track time today see below for results


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAtsCP4LPpE


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxQMLXvE8pw

[Pidgey]

R31 rear brakes may as well not be there.
To get a working R31 rear handbrake you need to do a hydro with R32/commodore brakes. Trying with standard is completely useless.
What i'm trying to say is, KEEP THIS.

[arrex7]

id assume you still got drum on this? id just look at converting your diff to disk with the corona discs piece a piss to do i converted my corolla to disc rear.
havent blown the rolla diff yet but then again i dont do full rev take offs.... i dont need to and it still spins easy.

[ecko]

hmm my diff is not very happy,
strangely anytime after a skid session it locks its self for a while after, and i mean fully locked skipping everywhere,
today 2 days later still the same, its a completely standard open centre which is strange

any other diff ideas then?
maybe vovlo?

[arrex7]

hilux seem to be a popular one ive heard them to be referred to as a poor mans 9 inch. you would have to weld you trailing arm mounts on it but i spose after that should be good.

[ecko]

i need disc rear end tho,
plus hilux to disc conversion is a rediculously hard task afaik,

welding mounts is simple

[arrex7]

didnt think of the disc bit was thinkin more of 5 stud easier for wheels. but convering them to disc. hhhhmmmm i would have a play down the wreckers got somthin like u pull it were you live?
cause i would think hilux diff and maybe ford discs and backing plates for the calipers? havent tried just a thought.

[ecko]

dont want or need 5 stud ,
old school 4 stud wheels are the only thing this cars getting

[ke_70]

more vids!!!!

[arrex7]

fair enough then . just stick with the rona diffs shitloads of em and,weld or put a mini spool in it.

[ecko]

the aftermath of skids

new centre tomorrow, or just welded

will be the cars third bw to die 1 from 2sc power 1 from 2jz power

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/2/2/4/5/63917.jpg (http://img21.imageshack.us/i/photo2jgo.jpg/)

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[ronaboy]

nice mate i too have/had a bog stock st141, but i have also gone for a w55/8
local testing of this vheicles/celica drive train be it 2/2.4 litre prove that the brog waner diff and gearbox as not strong enougth for the engines power ... this was after they had sold milons of them...

[ecko]

hmm wish they did a recall, the 2sc kill a diff on its own

[Konakid]

Can vouch for the borgwarners shitness. Was anything borgwarner good?

[ae71]

ive seen your tube vids of hugg BW turbos that poke threw the bonnet on a supra or two... how GOOD they are i down know. but yeah basically all that shit is junk, on par with china stuff.

[ecko]

nah BW turbo's are insane very high quality and awesomly responsive,

[ecko]

3rd BW down rear end sounds like a train on train tracks,
F series tarago diff being picked up this week, hopefully in within the fortnight

[ecko]

just a quick snap of the F series before any corona mounts were fitted, we found the tarago spring mounts were only 5mm out so we just left those on,
got the top trailing arm and panhard rod mounts on yesterday will hopfully finish it off during the week

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/1681/photo2zgk.th.jpg (http://img696.imageshack.us/i/photo2zgk.jpg/)

[ecko]

got the mounts all finished today, tomorrow arvo will paint diff and install along with superpro trailing arm bushes, will have no handbrake for a while as i havent got custom cables yet
then itll be all go for mad skids and no brakages

also heres a pic of the pinion flange we redrilled to suit ra40 tailshaft yoke
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/4451/photo7gs.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/291/photo7gs.jpg/)

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also a pic of what was living in the brakes
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/2/2/4/5/69056.jpg (http://img822.imageshack.us/i/photo8qq.jpg/)

[ke_70]

i hope that shafts going to be centred?

[ecko]

The drive shaft is centered by the flange thus why the ra40 yoke is being used

[ecko]

Forgot to mention I weighed this yesterday too
1026kg with a 1/4 tank and ne in it
Will re weigh once f series is in

[Pidgey]

Wow, that's lighter than I thought!
Have you removed sound deadening and all that jazz?

[Konakid]

What??? They weigh 1135 stock!

Might go weigh mine, thats really really light...

[ecko]

yeah agreed it didnt seem right but that was at a quarry weigh bridge where they make money on how much the car weighs so you's think it would be right,
my car has full interior its not stripped at all,
ive always thought the 2jz and w series box was lighter than the 2s and bw crap but never known for sure

[ecko]

hmmm according to wiki a standard rona should weigh 1165kg so im thinking the chick at the weigh bridge was meant to tell me 1260kg even though i asked her "are you sure that doesn't sound right"
so ill go with 1260kg until i can prove otherwise so factory weights are done with a empty car with no fuel or fluids etc so you would assume a fully fueled and lubed corona would weigh about 1250- to 1260 anyway
so im happy with that

[Pidgey]

Lighter than my R31 with loads more power and I'm guessing similar weight balance.
THAT WOULD BE AWESOME.

[ecko]

diff is in and i made it home, bad vibration from the tailshaft tho,
as the f series is 30mm lnger at the snout it seems to have effected the tailshaft angle so ill chuck some spacers under asap to try fix it,

also i hate weldies soooo much understeer

[ecko]

Ive finally had a chance to enjoy this car and spend some time driving it how its meant to be driven as its not going anywhere soon (its for sale) here are my plans

Full 100k Service- T belt pulleys, idlers, tensionor, seals and waterpump
rear main with new Feramic 6 puck clutch
Ma61 Lsd with Billet shims (In the post next week) + new wheel bearings and diff bearings
Ae86 Bc coilover kit (weld on type)
Depo 52mm white face Water and 60mm Tacho Gauges
then if i really decide to splash out 15x8 Rota Grid V Colour undecided

Other than those few things which are mostly not needed just small luxury's I want to make the car complete for me(before going turbo that is ;) )

The car is great for daily duties and a good thrashing doesnt mind the odd highway rolling drag race either

[ecko]

ma61 lsd not happening anymore,
TRD 2 way on the way :)

[ecko]

may of had a small incident driving on heavens roads on the weekend
will replace doors and see how it goes, then head back to the same roads again,
Possibly aus's best hills

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/520952.jpg

[AJPS]

pics of road?

is that the one with the 27 corner link?

dont worry about the damage, at least you were committing!

[Delazy]

pics of road?

is that the one with the 27 corner link?

dont worry about the damage, at least you were committing!

Thats the one dave, epic epic road...

[AJPS]

pics? vids? hanging!

[ecko]

yep 27 corners i fapped, hits the tree got towed out car still drivable did a few more runs :)
crappy vid of the kid driving

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQysvWg7Y4w

[Delazy]

pics? vids? hanging!

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/1/9/3/190792.jpg

[ecko]

big left hander just below the top of that map is epic fun

[AJPS]

is it better up hill or down hill?

looks fucking amazing

lazy - my car is being wired as we speak so perhaps this year I will make my long awaited least anticipated tassie trip

[ecko]

um i have no handbrake so was too scared for downhill,
JOASH in his JZX81 was killing it downhill tho

[matt99]

HOW THE FUCK DO PEOPLE IN SA KNOW ABOUT SAID ROAD.

And for the record, downhill is better, I got really bad phone video of a certain S13 that doesnt exist on the downhill.

[Jdm-Mcc]

I got really bad phone video of a certain S13 that doesnt exist on the downhill.

Makes perfect sense

[matt99]

Maybe it exsist's, maybe it doesn't. Did or didn't.

[Jdm-Mcc]

Maybe its a fictional character created by disney.

[ecko]

maybe it hit a "wombat" matt? in the same way my car was hit by asians in a getz?

pumped for WTA fool? We are going to destroy sydney

[matt99]

Yes. Wombat's. Now lets never speak of this again. Ha.

Correction, YOU are going to destroy Sydney. I will be flatout getting my new car ready for/be on the dyno.

[AJPS]

HOW THE FUCK DO PEOPLE IN SA KNOW ABOUT SAID ROAD.

And for the record, downhill is better, I got really bad phone video of a certain S13 that doesnt exist on the downhill.

people talk?

[ecko]

dont tell me you pussied out of wta... i will hit you in the balls at round 4

[matt99]

Pussied out? I was never in? Haha.

Oh and round four? Yeah, something else I should probably inform you of...

[ecko]

also
New maintainence parts
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/521038.jpg
I sell this kit for 1jz/2jz for $950 if anyones keen :)

[DR86FT]

would you tailshaft fit my car?

[ecko]

doubt it , why do you ask?

[DR86FT]

i dont have a tailshaft or any bits to suit w5x to f series either it will fit or need modding?

[ecko]

yah you could try a rt142 with w series tailshaft, however id imagine it would require shortening

[ecko]

The old girl has been sold :( but has gone to a good home where it will be getting alot of love