Your Suspension Setup

[sonsta]

OK thought we could all post up what suspension setups we have and how we would rate them, the pro's and con's of your setup and what your setup is designed.

Fill this lil template out and post it

Car:
Car use (e.g grip/drift):
Front Struts:
Spring Rate/ Free Height:
Inserts (brand/model):
LCA's:
RCA's (size if you have them):
Strut Tops:
Front Sway Bar:
Castor Arms:

Rear Springs:
Rear Shocks:
Panhard Rod:
4 Link:

Bracing:

Pro's:
Con's:

Extra Comments:




Look forward to seeing what everyone has!!

[Konakid]

Car: AE71
Car use (e.g grip/drift): Both
Front Struts: AE86 coilover
Spring Rate/ Free Height: 8kg, 200mm
Inserts (brand/model): KYB Excel G SS
LCA's: XT130
RCA's (size if you have them): 35mm
Strut Tops: Cusco

Rear Springs: 200mm 6KG
Rear Shocks: KYB Excel G SS

Pro's: stiff, predictable, camber adjustment, track increase through lca's.
Con's: Shocks not stiff enough, needs rear traction brackets.
[B]

[Robo86]

Car: AE86 Coupe.
Car use: Drift.
Front Struts: AE86 Coil over.
Spring Rate/ Free Height: 8.5kg, 200mm.
Inserts (brand/model): AE92 TRD Yellow Insert.
LCA's: XT130 (Fresh bushes/joints)
RCA's (size if you have them): 45mm.
Strut Tops: Cusco camber tops.

I run custom coilovers in the rear, trd shock with sleve welded on.
Rear Springs: 7kg spring
Rear Shocks: TRD Blue 8 way adjust.

Pro's: Stiff & Predictable...love it
Con's: Anger can come into play when running such rates on brisbane roads.

Extra Comments:

[johl]

Car:ke70
Car use (e.g grip/drift): drift
Front Struts:ae86
Spring Rate/ Free Height: 6kg 200mm
Inserts (brand/model):kyb exel g
LCA's:xt130
RCA's (size if you have them):
Strut Tops:cusco

Rear Springs:ajps 230mm 4.5kg
Rear Shocks:kyb exel g

Pro's:nice ride for a daily yet stiff enough for track duties
Con's:sites higher than i would like. would like someadjustability in the shocks as well as slightly harder springs, but then it would be bad on the streets so i have to compromise

Extra Comments:cusco swaybars front and rear, adj 4 link, adj panhard

[Sly*]

Car:ae86
Car use (e.g grip/drift):drift
Front Struts:custom coilover
Spring Rate/ Free Height:8kg/200mm
Inserts (brand/model):agx 4-way
LCA's:standard
RCA's (size if you have them):40mm
Strut Tops:tein cambertops/ps arms

Rear Springs:gaz coilover/6kg
Rear Shocks:

Pro's:stiff
Con's:stiff

[DRFTR86]

Car: ADM AE86
Car use (e.g grip/drift): drift/weekend car
Front Struts: AE86 converted to coilover
Spring Rate/ Free Height: 8 kg/230mm
Inserts (brand/model): SW20 KYB AGX
LCA's: Stock
RCA's (size if you have them): Nope but have NRCAs (t3)
Strut Tops: T3

Rear Springs: AU2 XR8 IRS cut to 210mm
Rear Shocks: KYB Sierra

Pro's: adjustability, stiff, good for drift
Con's:not so good for daily, to stiff on bumpy roads

[R&D Mechanical]

Car: KE70
Car use (e.g grip/drift): Drift
Front Struts: AE86 AJPS coilovers
Spring Rate/ Free Height: 7KG/Unknown
Inserts (brand/model): KYB/short strokes
LCA's: XT130 Corona
RCA's: 40mm AJPS
Strut Tops:

Rear Springs: AJPS 6kg 215mm
Rear Shocks: random toyota ones from a 4wd?



Extra Comments:

Not finished

[blair]

Car: Aus AE86
Car use: Drift.
Front Struts: AE86 Coil over.
Spring Rate/ Free Height: 8kg, 220mm.
Inserts: AE92 TRD Yellow Insert.
LCA's: XT130
RCA's : 40mm.
Strut Tops: Cusco camber tops.

Rear Springs: 6kg spring 200mm.
Rear Shocks: TRD Blue 8 way adjust.

Pro's: Stiff enough for the track. adjustability.
Con's: I live halway in the bush so the roads really suck + my DRIVEWAY! (tar laid down soon swoit!)

Extra Comments:only other thing i wil be upgrading is sway bars and bushes all round.

[Frak]

Car: AE86
Use: Circuit
Front struts: Ae86 coilover 60mm cut
Spring rate: 380lb/in
Inserts: TRD blue 5 way
LCA's: Cusco Fabricated(not standard lca with rod end on inner)
RCA's: 45mm
Castor Rods: Cusco
Strut Tops: Revolver Racing

Rear springs: 225lb/in
Shocks: TRD blue 8 way
Coil over conversion using 2inch OD spring
Equal length upper/lower arm with Cusco arms, genuine N2 TRD upper arm box section
Cusco Panhard rod
Cusco roll centre adj
Nagisa Auto traction brackets

Pro's : nicely balanced, very predictable, incredibly neutral.
Con's : None, I'm very happy with this set up.

[4AGE AE86]

Car: AE86
Car use (e.g grip/drift): Both
Front Struts: AE86 Stage 3 Coilovers
Spring Rate/ Free Height: 8kg/200mm
Inserts (brand/model): AGX 4 way
LCA's: Stock
RCA's (size if you have them): 40mm
Strut Tops: Kei Office

Rear Springs: 6kg 215mm
Rear Shocks: KYB Excel G SS

Pro's: stiff enough to hold good grip, still easily soft enough for daily use
Con's: need a wheel alignment....

Extra Comments: still plenty of parts sitting in a box waiting to go in...

[marvis]

Car: RA65
Car use (e.g grip/drift): Drift
Front Struts:Tomei S13 Coilovers, Apexi Springs
Spring Rate/ Free Height:8/9kg, 200mm?
Inserts (brand/model): No idea.
LCA's:MX62 (Fresh bushes/joints)
RCA's (size if you have them): None ATM.
Strut Tops:Tomei
Sway Bar: Stock, don't see the need for an uprated one either.
Castor Arms: Stock for now.


Rear Springs: Falcon 200mm ATM.
Rear Shocks: TRD Blue
Panhard Rod:[/B] Whaaat?
4 Link: As above.
Sway Bar: Stock - To be upgraded to adjustable.

Pro's: More Lock then stock, bigger, better brake options and more Track. Car is pretty slammed and handles great, no noticeable bumpsteer.
Con's:To much track with rims bigger then 7's needs S13 LCA.

Extra Comments: This setup really needs a 6/7k Spring rate in the rear end and some sway bars and front strut brace will be added shortly

[pieman18]

Car: sprint
Car use (e.g grip/drift): drift
Front Struts: ae86 coils
Spring Rate/ Free Height: 8kg
Inserts (brand/model): dunno
LCA's: corona
RCA's (size if you have them): -
Strut Tops: cusco

Rear Springs: ajps 210mm 6kg
Rear Shocks: crapodore monroe shocks

Pro's: (when aligned) steering is very responsive, sits at a very acceptable height for a daily atm, although it is bumpy on shit roads, it still is soft enough to leave my spine in tact
Con's: quite bumpy on shit roads, needs an alignment

Extra Comments: i like the lack of power steering in my car as i think it gives more feel through the steering coupled with all the sus work, ill be getting new sway bars and rear shocks when my K Rudd bonus comes in the mail :P

[obey wan boenny]

Car: KE70
Car use (e.g grip/drift): Drift
Front Struts: AE86 coilovers
Spring Rate/ Free Height: 8kg, unknown
Inserts (brand/model): unknown
LCA's: RA40
RCA's (size if you have them): None
Strut Tops: Cusco

Rear Springs: 6kg
Rear Shocks: TRD Blue 8 way
Pro's: Good for the skids
Con's: Shutters/Axel tramps like a bitch in 1st, needs new trailing arm bushes, traction brackets.

Extra Comments: umm needs more caster / lock!

[FLCL]

Car: JDM AE86
Car use (e.g grip/drift): Both with a tendancy for the sideways
Front Struts: Deed coilovers
Spring Rate/ Free Height: 8kg front 10kg rear, ?
Inserts (brand/model):
LCA's: stock
RCA's (size if you have them): none
Strut Tops: Section camber tops
Rear Springs/Shocks: Deed Coilovers. They are inverted to fit into the std rear shock mounting

Pro's: The whole setup is adjustable to the settings I want/need to drive the car fast
Con's: I wish there was rear camber so I could set it up to go faster

Extra Comments: Theres also a full set of whiteline adj. sway bars as well set to max stiffness with a full nolathane bushing upgrade on the way. Its been an experience to set up a car this light with a solid rear axel. Have never dealt with old gemies and escorts so this was my first time at it. Hopefully with good tyre choice and the right driving style I can get this to run as fsat or faster then most things on the street.

[45aken]

Car: AE86
Car use (e.g grip/drift): want a fast track car which i can setup quickly for drift and hill climbs.
Front Struts: hks hypermax D's
Spring Rate/ Free Height: 8kg now, have 6 and 11's in the tool box
Inserts (brand/model): HKS
LCA's: shortened s13 (needed to fit 15x8 -3 under the guards while still being low)
Strut Tops: Cusco
Rear Springs/Shocks: 6kg ATM, have 4 and 9 in the box. pug 909 shockers upgrading soon

Pro's: adjustability, brakes, lock, no slop, strength.
Con's: the local tyre place scratching their heads when it's time for alignment. I'll tell you when i drive it.

Extra Comments: good tyres, all bushes replaced, t3 panhard, pillowball castor arms, traction brackets, cusco strut brace, swaybars, rear brace, seam welded, chassis strengthened and a few other things.

[skaney]

Car: AE86
Car use (e.g grip/drift): daily, hills, the odd slide
Front Struts: Coilovers on 86 struts
Spring Rate/ Free Height: 8kg, lowest height
Inserts (brand/model): KYB GT4 shocks
LCA's: XT130
RCA's (size if you have them): 30mm T3 I think
Strut Tops: Cusco

Rear Springs: 210mm 6kg
Rear Shocks: TRD blue 8way

Pro's: Rear feels very nice. Not unbearably stiff. Grips well, will slide when you want.
Con's: Little bit bouncy in the front, would want it lower in the front, little bit of roll in the front.

Extra Comments: Ideally needs some thicker sway bars and different front coilovers, the shocks are shit and coilovers wont go low enough.

[driftke70]

Car: ke70
Car use (e.g grip/drift): hills and track
Front Struts: coil overs on xt130 struts,
Spring Rate/ Free Height: 8kg, around 220
Inserts (brand/model): tokico hts
LCA's: gh
RCA's (size if you have them): 40mm
Strut Tops: racing logic, will eventually replace with something if i deem it neccisary.

Rear Springs: 215 6kg
Rear Shocks: tokico hts
Sway bars : 18mm adj rear 21mm non adj front


Pro's: adjustable, extra track in the front matches the extra width of f series very nicely.
Con's: dont know

Extra Comments: I need to drive it and dial it in.

[LittleRedSpirit]

Car: AE71 Spirit
Car use: Street/Grip
Front Struts: AE86
Spring Rate/ Free Height:6kg, not sure of free height.
Inserts (brand/model): Koni Sport ST185
LCA's: XT130
RCA's (size if you have them): 30mm Techno Toy Tuning
Strut Tops: AE86 Tein Cambertops with the correct caster for ke70 for some reason. Just got lucky. Must be for added caster on AE86.
Caster Arms: Standard
Bushings: Mixture of Nolathane, and Super Pro. All of them have been changed.
4 links: standard
Panhard Rod: Whiteline Adjustable on car
Rear Springs: Cut standards
Rear Shocks: TRD Green 8 way (kyb)
Swaybars: Whiteline f & r. 22mm front, 17mm rear. Non adjustable. You can get some sort of adjustment with looser or tighter D bushes on the rear. Tight for drifting, looser for grip. I install oversize bushes to stiffen it up.

Pro's: Has a quaife Rack installed, very neutral steering, turns in hard. Very adjustable damping and ride height. Comfortable to drive in as its got travel and droop.

Con's: Has a little bit of bump steer since I lowered it an extra 10mm, but is easily manageable. Had basically none before that.

Extra Comments: It cannot be any higher than the ride height its at, or the inserts can sometimes top out. Thats why it went down 10mm recently. Cater set in mid 3s. Toe neutral.

Bracing: Ultra racing fender and rear 4 point braces. Cusco strutbrace up front.

[sonsta]

Can I suggest we add bushings, swaybars, 4 links, panhard rods, caster arms and bracing to the list? Before too many more people respond.

done and done

thanks for all the replys guys!!

[4AGE AE86]

thought i should probably update my setup

Car: AE86
Car use (e.g grip/drift): both
Front Struts: AE86 Coilovers
Brakes: FC3S front RT142 Rear
Spring Rate/ Free Height: 8kg
Inserts (brand/model): AGX 4 ways
LCA's: AJPS Rose Jointed set to minimum
RCA's (size if you have them): 40mm Club Charles AJPS
Strut Tops: Kei Office Camber tops
Front Sway Bar: Stock
Castor Arms: Cusco Rose Jointed Arms and Brackets

Rear Springs: 215mm 6kg
Rear Shocks: KYB Excel G SS
Panhard Rod: AJPS Rose Jointed
4 Link: Cusco Half Rose Joint Half Bush Uppers, Stock Lowers

Bracing: Front Cusco Strut Brace, Rear Tune Agent Strut Brace

Pro's: Only just finished getting it together, will let you know how it goes
Con's:

Extra Comments: Wheel Alignment Specs

-3.5 Camber
-1.5mm toe out
+2.5 castor for now

[Ae86sam]

Car: Ae86
Car use (e.g grip/drift): Drift
Front Struts: Ae86 KZG Coilovers
Spring Rate/ Free Height: 6kg / 200mm ?
Inserts (brand/model): HTS Tokico 102s
LCA's: Std (dunno if pwr steering diff)
RCA's (size if you have them): 25mm
Strut Tops: Cusco Adjustable
Front Sway Bar: Whitlines
Castor Arms: Std

Rear Springs: Cut Au Falcan
Rear Shocks: KYG Adj
Panhard Rod: Custom Rose Jointed + Extra brace

Bracing: Cusco Tower tops Front and Rear

Pro's: Feels Great and Handles well
Con's: None for me :)

Extra Comments: I like wearing pants..

[aussierider]

Car:ke70
Car use (e.g grip/drift):daily/general thrashing
Front Struts:ae86
Spring Rate/ Free Height:8kg 230mm ajps/
Inserts (brand/model):kyb excel g celica with spacer i made up to go above the shock so its in proper stroke range/
LCA's:ae86 with up rated bushes
RCA's (size if you have them):30mm
Strut Tops:stock
Front Sway Bar:stock just has new bushes
Castor Arms:stock

Rear Springs:cut xf springs i guess around 6kg 230mm height
Rear Shocks:peddars sport rider sierra
Panhard Rod:stock cut down
4 Link:stock

Bracing:front strut brace

Pro's:handles pretty well for a cheap set up
Con's: Cant go any were near a dirt road

Extra Comments:

[lumpye7]

car: slant front ke70
track only drift
front struts: d2 s13 coilovers (i kno there shit, they were left overs)
8.5kg height adjustable
LCA's braced s13 stockies
upgraded no name s13 sway bar - rose jointed swaybar link
castor rods tuneagent s13 ones.
castor brackets made by me. due to custom front chassis.

rear
series three bluebird 10 bolt diff
s13 coilovers with custom top hat to suit ke shockie mounts
pan hard rod, random jap spec
rear upper and lower arms, random jap spec
18mm whiteline adjustable swaybar

custom x brace under cut out boot floor
full chassis spot weld
custom front member, as other one was f**ked
tube rad suport


build thread:
http://www.ke70.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=1467

[ae86]

Car: Ae86 hatch
Car use (e.g grip/drift): Drift
Front Struts: Ae86 revolver coilovers
Spring Rate/ Free Height: 7.5kg unsure on freeheight ?
Inserts (brand/model): Tokico trd yellows
LCA's: Std
RCA's (size if you have them): 25mm ajps
Strut Tops: Cusco camber tops
Front Sway Bar: trd
Castor Arms: Std

Rear Springs: OCS 6.5kg/200mm
Rear Shocks: KYB street series 4way adj
Panhard Rod: jdm unknown adj

Bracing: front cusco strut brace

Pro's: goes alright for street
Con's: too stiff @ rear

Extra Comments: gimmie a beater and il do it ghetto

[lo_rolla]

Car:Ae86 sedan
Car use (e.g grip/drift):Everything and anything
Front Struts: Cusco Coilovers
Spring Rate/ Free Height:Unknown
Inserts (brand/model):Cusco?
LCA's:AJPS Xt130
RCA's (size if you have them):AJPS
Strut Tops:Cusco Adjustable
Front Sway Bar: Std, new bushes
Castor Arms: Std, with AJPS brace

Rear Springs: Coilover
Rear Shocks: TRD Blue 8 way shock, custom coilover
Panhard Rod: ..I can't remember if I ordered one or not...
4 Link:

Bracing: Front and rear strut brace, Safety 21 6 poiint bolt in cage

Pro's: Hopefully I'll have a very predictable car
Con's: Most of it's still in the mail, haven't driven car for 15 months+

Extra Comments:

Taco's are Gods fruit, Canadian club is Gods drink, AE86 is Gods car.

[starni_boy]

Car: KE70 Panelvan
Car use (e.g grip/drift): Daily
Front Struts: JDM AE86 Struts
Spring Rate/ Free Height: 220? 5kg AJPS
Inserts (brand/model): KYB Excel G short strokes
LCA's: Xt130
RCA's: AJPS 40mm
Strut Tops: Cusco Adjustable
Front Sway Bar: Std, new bushes
Castor Arms: Std, new bushes, max adjustment

Rear Springs: Stock leaves
Rear Shocks: KYB Excel G's
Panhard Rod: N/A
4 Link: N/A

Bracing: Front strut brace

Pro's: Setup how I want, didn't cost heaps. Second hand from Japan kept the cost low.
Con's: Haven't driven car yet.

[sonsta]

i guess i should put mine up!!

Car:Ke70 Corolla
Car use (e.g grip/drift):Drift
Front Struts: Ae86
Spring Rate/ Free Height: Not Sure
Inserts (brand/model):KYB AGX Short Stroke Adjustables
LCA's: Stock
RCA's (size if you have them):None
Strut Tops:Stock
Front Sway Bar:Stock
Castor Arms:Stock

Rear Springs:FAlcons
Rear Shocks:Koni Adjustables
Panhard Rod:Stock
4 Link:Stock

Bracing:Stock

Pro's:Slides Great!! Grips well and not to stiff
Con's:none i love it, could do with some sway bars and some more camber but

Extra Comments: 7Kg is the ultimate street spring rate, not to stiff!

[45KIDS]

Car: ke70
Car use (e.g grip/drift): Daily/grip/drift
Front Struts: stock
Spring Rate/ Free Height: 5kg/ unknown
Inserts (brand/model): unknown
LCA's: corona
RCA's (size if you have them): N/A
Strut Tops: standard
Front Sway Bar: selbys 24mm
Castor Arms: Std
Rear Springs: 4.5kg/ 230mm
Rear Shocks: KYB excel G
Panhard Rod: whiteline
Bracing: front whiteline strutbrace, rear whiteline 18mm swaybar
Pro's: comfy to daily drive but can grip good when it wants to
Con's: want bigger brakes
Extra Comments: can't afford the good shit!

[shawn_26]

Car: AE86
Car use (e.g grip/drift): Drift/Daily
Front Struts: Custom coilover sleeves
Spring Rate/ Free Height: 8kg/height unknown
Inserts (brand/model): TRD Greens
LCA's: Standard
RCA's (size if you have them): Standard
Strut Tops: Cusco Adjustable
Front Sway Bar: Standard
Castor Arms: Standard

Rear Springs: TRD 5kg
Rear Shocks: TRD Greens
Panhard Rod: Standard

Bracing: Cusco front strut brace

Pro's: Comfy enough for the daily commute, lots of grip.
Con's: Fair amount of body roll. Rear sway bar soon to be changed to Selbys, and 6kg/200mm springs for the arse end.

Extra Comments: Basically my set up is in the making. Springs are soon to be changed to 6kg, new rear swaybar, followed by AJPS Panhard rod. Want it to be stiff and go into a slide easily.

[ae71neo]

Car: AE71
Car use (e.g grip/drift): Drift
Front Struts: AE86 Coilovers
Spring Rate/ Free Height: 7kg, unsure free height
Inserts (brand/model): KYB Excel G's
LCA's: Stock
RCA's (size if you have them): 30mm T3
Strut Tops: Cusco
Front Sway Bar: Whiteline 24mm Adjustable
Castor Arms: Stock

Rear Springs: 6kg, 200mm free height
Rear Shocks: KYB Excel G's
Panhard Rod: Whiteline
4 Link: T3
Rear Sway Bar: Whiteline 18mm

Bracing: JIC Front strut brace, Full bolt in cage

Pro's: Slides predictably, gets the power down nicely.
Con's: Needs better shocks.

Extra Comments: A few more things to come, castor arms and some more bracing. Traction brackets also.

[H8CHIR6KU]

sorry double post

[H8CHIR6KU]

Car: street and track ae86
Car use (e.g grip/drift): dorifto
Front Struts: ae86 spring on shock
Spring Rate/ Free Height: 8kg / 210mm
Inserts (brand/model): kyb agx
LCA's: standard
RCA's (size if you have them): 35mm -ve
Strut Tops: cusco
Front Sway Bar: adjustable whiteline
Castor Arms: standard

Rear Springs: 6kg / 220mm
Rear Shocks: kyb agx
Panhard Rod: adjustable whiteline
4 Link:

Bracing: ultra racing 4 point underbody brace and front brace, front and rear strut braces, ajps harness brace thingy

Pro's: very firm and direct
Con's: just a little too firm for street but is bearable

Extra Comments:
all bushes are urethane in the car aswell as all new steering components which makes the suspension feel better.
also have trd solid engine mounts and gearbox mounts so the car is quite firm all over


Car: track only 86
Car use (e.g grip/drift): dorifto
Front Struts: greddy coilovers
Spring Rate/ Free Height: 8kg
Inserts (brand/model): greddy
LCA's: standard
RCA's (size if you have them): 40mm
Strut Tops: greddy
Front Sway Bar: adjustable whiteline
Castor Arms: standard

Rear Springs: 6kg
Rear Shocks: greddy
Panhard Rod: adjustable
4 Link:

Bracing: ultra racing 4 point underbody brace and front brace, front and rear strut braces, ajps harness brace thingy rollcage and full spotwelded chassis

Pro's: not sure cause havent driven it yet but im sure it will be the bomb
Con's:
Extra Comments: again all bushes are urethane

[Delazy]

Car: AE86
Car use (e.g grip/drift): Everything
Front Struts: AE86 Coilovers
Brakes: FC3S/Mini Cooper S
Spring Rate/ Free Height: 8kg/190mm/Helper Springs
Inserts (brand/model): Tokico HTS102S
LCA's: XT130
RCA's (size if you have them): 40mm
Strut Tops: Cusco
Front Sway Bar: Cusco 23mm
Castor Arms: Cusco

Rear Springs: 6kg 180mm/Adjustable Platforms
Rear Shocks: Tokico HTS102's
Panhard Rod: APEX Rosejointed/Cusco RCA
4 Link: Equal Length With Rosejointed APEX Arms
Rear Swaybar: Cusco 20mm

Bracing:
Cams Half Cage with side intrusion bars
Cusco OS Strut Brace/T3 TriBrace
Cusco Tension Rod brace
Nagaisa Auto Shakkaito Plates
Ultra Racing Fender Braces
Ultra Racing 4 Link Mid Brace
Ultra Racing 2 Point Lower Brace
RunFree Panhard Mount Brace

Pro's: undriven
Con's: undriven/expensive

[Medwin_3sGTE_AE86]

Car: AE86
Car use (e.g grip/drift): Grip, Hill Climb, Circut
Front Struts: AE86, Custom Coilovers
Brakes: BA Falcon Rotors, 4-Pot AP Racing Calipers
Spring Rate/ Free Height: 7kg/200mm
Inserts (brand/model): KYB AGX SW20 (shortened strut 40mm)
LCA's: Standard
RCA's (size if you have them): None
Strut Tops: T3
Front Sway Bar: Whiteline
Castor Arms: Standard

Rear Springs: Standard
Rear Shocks: Koni Adjustables
Panhard Rod: Whiteline
4 Link: Equal Length Nolathane Bushed
Rear Swaybar: None

Bracing:
Cams Approved 6-Point Cage
T3 Strut/TriBrace

Pro's: Virtually unheard of setup (in AE86 circles) working exactly as was intended. Simple yet very effective.
Con's: None as yet.

[xero]

Car: AE86
Car use (e.g grip/drift): circuit/winding road
Front Struts: GREDDY type S Coilovers
Brakes: front hoppers stoppers kit using AU twin piston calipers and AU 290mm discs
Spring Rate/ Free Height: 8kg/200mm (im guessing on free height)
Inserts (brand/model): GREDDY front coilover
LCA's: standard
RCA's (size if you have them): cusco 30mm
Strut Tops: GREDDY
Front Sway Bar: custom 25mm adjustable
Castor Arms: JIC

Rear Springs: 6kg 200mm/Adjustable Platforms (guessing on free height
Rear Shocks:GREDDY type S
Panhard Rod: cusco adjustable
4 Link: custom adjustable lower arms with nolathane bushes standard upper
Rear Swaybar: Cusco 20mm

Bracing:
front cusco strut tower brace
rear cusco suspension tower brace

Pro's:easily adjustable, shocks and springs allways have full travel as each is adjustable independantly. on track fucking awesome, even on a medium setting there is bugger all roll. wound on full hard almost zero roll. plenty smooth when sliding if you want. ok for daily driving, medium setting spot on for winding roads and provides a good mix of no understeer, bump handling, roll and very neutral with a bit of subtle over steer.
on track on with hard setting is extremely neutral, and is farily forgiving but nub it good and proper and it bite you in the ass (which my GF found out the first time at wakefield driving it)
Con's: bit expensive initially but once properly setup fucking awesome. the electronic controller is waste of fucken time. so glad i didnt get it.
they're not rebuildable..

[ROLL3R]

Car: Ae71 with ke70 flat front conversion, Bolt on flares (custom widebody front)
Car use (e.g grip/drift): Grip/ Hill Climbs
Front Struts: Ta63 Carina custom handmade coilovers
Spring Rate/ Free Height: 8kg kingsprings
Inserts (brand/model): Custom handmade
LCA's: GH sigma
Steering Arms: Ta63 Carina power steering arms
Tierod ends: Longer tierod ends with a slight bend down (helps reduce bumpsteer)
RCA's (size if you have them): 40mm AJPS
Strut Tops: K-Mac camber/caster tops
Front Sway Bar: Whiteline
Castor Arms: Standard

Rear Springs: Falcon springs cut to 225mm (6kg) painted kingspring yellow
Rear Shocks: Custom handmade
Panhard Rod: Whiteline
Rear Swaybar: Whiteline
4 Link: Standard, but planning on using Whiteline Traction brackets and custom adjustable top trailing arms

Bracing: Whiteline front strut brace
Bushes: Urethane bushes throughout the car.
Diff/tailshaft: T18 series 2 rebuilt LSD, Custom one piece tailshaft.
Brakes: R32 non abs master cylinder. Front Ta63 Carina Vented disks running QFM pads. Rear St141 solid disks running Bendix pads.
Spacers: Front: 20mm bolt on spacers. Rear: 25mm bolt on spacers
Extra Comments: Running 13x8 +3 superlites with 215/50/13 front and 235/50/13 rear tyres.

Pro's: Handles very well, fun reliable car to drive.
Con's: Very harsh ride. Pain in the arse in a car pack (heavy steering)

[ke70dave]

what is unheard of in your set up?

only thing i can see "unheard of in ae86 circles" about his setup, is the front rotors and calipers?

[takai]

Rotors and calipers are a bit different, although easily fited to any AE86 especially with a 5stud swap.
Rear 4link is rarer but not unheard of.

[Eddy]

Car: AE71 panno
Car use (e.g grip/drift): hills drift
Front Struts:panno/same as 86
Spring Rate/ Free Height:230 6kg
Inserts (brand/model): kyb short stroke
LCA's: xt130
RCA's (size if you have them):ajps 30mm
Strut Tops: cusco
Front Sway Bar: whiteline 24mm
Castor Arms: stock wound max

Rear Springs: custom reset leafs lowwer stiffer
Rear Shocks: kyb short stroke
Panhard Rod: N/A
4 Link: leaf
Rear Sway Bar: 18mm selby bolt in
Bracing: none

Pro's: sits verry flat and corners well
Con's: rear littel to stiff might need to trim bump stops down a tad.

[todd]

Car: AE86
Car use (e.g grip/drift): hills drift daily
Front Struts: ae8 coilovers
Spring Rate/ Free Height: 200 7kg adj
Inserts (brand/model): sw20 bangers kyb excel G
LCA's: xt130
RCA's (size if you have them): ajps 30mm
Strut Tops: cusco
Front Sway Bar: jdm standard
Castor Arms: stock wound max

Rear Springs: 4.5kg 210
Rear Shocks: trd blues
Panhard Rod: whiteline adjustable
4 Link: rebushed standard
Rear Sway Bar: jdm standard
Bracing: front and rear strut braces

Pro's: had a fair bit of grip, possibly too much in the rear.
Con's: still a little sway mid corner, need swaybars.

[xero]

Brakes: front hoppers stoppers kit using AU twin piston calipers and AU 290mm discs



only thing i can see "unheard of in ae86 circles" about his setup, is the front rotors and calipers?


Rotors and calipers are a bit different, although easily fited to any AE86 especially with a 5stud swap.
Rear 4link is rarer but not unheard of.

again not really unheard of in the brake department either, ive got a similar set up and still 4x114

4 link is not that uncommon either, maybe in a street car but not in the race cars or drift cars.

if its the MR2 shocks again not really i remember this was the go back in the old toymods days. ae92 where the shocks of choice back then too.

[Medwin_3sGTE_AE86]

what is unheard of in your set up? Another display of your child like IQ level Dave... Sadly, those with a similar level of maturity will (again) find humour in your pathetic attempt at creating an argument.... How about we quote the whole post and pick it apart together (instead of just the bit you want to make an argument from), think you can handle that Dave?...

Car: AE86
Car use (e.g grip/drift): Grip, Hill Climb, Circut
Front Struts: AE86, Custom Coilovers
Brakes: BA Falcon Rotors, 4-Pot AP Racing Calipers
Spring Rate/ Free Height: 7kg/200mm
Inserts (brand/model): KYB AGX SW20 (shortened strut 40mm)
LCA's: Standard
RCA's (size if you have them): None
Strut Tops: T3
Front Sway Bar: Whiteline
Castor Arms: Standard
Rear Springs: Standard
Rear Shocks: Koni Adjustables
Panhard Rod: Whiteline
4 Link: Equal Length Nolathane Bushed
Rear Swaybar: None
Bracing:
Cams Approved 6-Point Cage
T3 Strut/TriBrace
Pro's: Virtually unheard of setup (in AE86 circles) working exactly as was intended. Simple yet very effective.
Con's: None as yet.
Yeah, fair enough, coilovers with AGX shocks & 7kg springs aren't unheard of. Im yet to see or hear of another 86 with 4-piston AP calipers with falcon rotors mounted on the correct hubs (falcon hubs), anyone can re-drill a suitable rotor to suit thir existing hub, has anyone ever studied the standard wheel bearings in an 86?! I'll grab a pic of the falcon hub with ruler, see if you can figure out why I insisted on fitting them. As for the rear, find another 86 running no sway bar at all, in a developed proven setup using standard springs (note, a developed 86, not some 17yr old who found out how to operate a grinder....)
Pull your head out of your 30yr old arse and get a life Dave, you're pathetic. I'll look forward to your reply that will no doubt be a personal attack as when you have no other genuine argument to present, personal attacks always look good in your follower's eyes, dont they?!
PS. I got your message - "Medwin is giving TAS a bad reputation" haha are you really that narrow minded?!
PSS. Tein's you're selling at a 150% mark up I can readily get (overnight, infact), and am all too happy to continue selling on for my trade price, thats what "helping the community" is, not lining your own pockets whilst bullshitting promises that you're doing super deals to unsuspecting noobs who dont bother to shop around because they want that oh so brilliant ajps sticker.....

[ke70dave]

now who's making the pathetic attempt to start an argument?

the falcon hub sounds like a cool setup, how'd you get it to fit on there? you retaining the ae86 axel? or you weld on a falcon one or something?

oh yer and littleredspirit/ruiki's red car had no rear sway bar, as of about a year ago.

enjoy the argument!

[todd]

DO YOU REMEMBER THREAD ALL OVER AGAIN YAYAYayayay

[Skylar]

As for the rear, find another 86 running no sway bar at all, in a developed proven setup using standard springs


I'm running no rear anti-roll bar (and by choice too, not because the diff doesn't have mounts on it) but I'm not man enough to run stock springs. :( I need me a cage to try and get that much diagonal wedge out of the chassis.

[Konakid]

Oh medwin shut the fuck up no one cares that you have Falcon brake rotors and stock rear springs.

[ROLL3R]

Well said. +1 for Medwin to "Shut The Fuck Up".

[Sherlock]

Properly silenced him.

[xero]

medwin, im also running a falcon hub. whats your point there?

[Rip it]

^^ Yes, yes you did!!
People, Medwin is one of a kind. Everyone who has been a member of the previous 86DC would know this. When you are born with the silver spoon(s) hanging from the very over worked mouth, one tends to act a little different from the rest. Please don't hold it against the rest of us Tasmanians.
Lawson, I trust you will lose no sleep over this and know that Medwins mouth will not bring you and your products down, I'm not blowing wind up your arse just stating the fact that I and many will do business with you again.

Jake.

[Rip it]

medwin, im also running a falcon hub. whats your point there?

He won't be able to answer you until he creates another account, again!

[R&D Mechanical]

lol at him getting banned. this is a quality thread.

[NIZLAH]

I hate to get involved because I honestly couldn't give a fuck, and arguing over a forum is pointless...

but about damn time... was sick of reading Meds bullshit....

I'm going to have a drink just for this....

[xero]

He won't be able to answer you until he creates another account, again!
meh not really worried about it, but i was intrigued by the so called "unique" suspension set up. i was really hoping it was revolutionary but turned out to be stuff that has been done years before hand..

anyway moving on..

[Delazy]

Thanks mate. I appreciate the kind words. I dont hold it against the rest of tassie, i like guys like yourself, ed, daim etc...

:-)

no love???? fuck you dave :P

[Rip it]

meh not really worried about it, but i was intrigued by the so called "unique" suspension set up. i was really hoping it was revolutionary but turned out to be stuff that has been done years before hand..

anyway moving on..

Didn't think you would be!!

[Matt-AE86]

I've brought the popcorn, am I too late ?

[Robo86]

just a bit chew dog

[The Kid]

Of all the ways to ruin what was a good thread, Medwin getting banned was probably the best ever.

[Rip it]

Of all the ways to ruin what was a good thread, Medwin getting banned was probably the best ever.


Very, very good piont. Would it possible to clean all the recent crap out of here?

[ae86hachiroku]

Nah don't clean it, makes for good reading.

[stuartgze]

Car: Ae86
Car use (e.g grip/drift): Hills, drift, daily
Front Struts: Ae86 AJPS Coilovers
Spring Rate/ Free Height: 6kg / 230mm
Inserts (brand/model): Bilstein monotube inverted
LCA's: Corona, with 93a inner bush new joints etc
RCA's (size if you have them): cusco 30mm
Strut Tops: Cusco Adjustable
Front Sway Bar: Stock
Castor Arms: Stock, with new bushes, max adjustment
AJPS motor sport tie rod ends
super pro rack bushes
t3 steering arms
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/1/8/2/0/24033.jpg

Rear

T18 diff

Rear Springs: AJPS 4.5kg/mm
Rear Shocks: Bilstein short stroke
Panhard Rod: unknown adjustable
Traction brackets: lowest setting on AJPS items
Swaybar - stock
Bracing: no name front and rear stut braces ultra front fender braces

Pro's: seems to work well can't complain to much
Con's: maybe a bit soft. getting beached on speed hump. breaking the exhaust.

Extra Comments: need bigger sways bars.

[shift_rook]

nice setup dude, give us a yell if you want the shocks tuned can have em sent down and redamped to suit, might not even need different swaybars

[R&D Mechanical]

what are the T3 steering arms like?

[trikzlane]

Car: Sliding ke70
Car use (e.g grip/drift): Daily/drift
Front Struts: Xt130
Spring Rate/ Free Height: 5kg Pedders
Inserts (brand/model): KYB Excel G Short Strokes
LCA's: Xt130
RCA's (size if you have them): 40mm AJPS
Strut Tops: T3 adjustable
Front Sway Bar: STOCK
Castor Arms: STOCK AS THERES NO NEED

Rear Springs: Cut STOCKOS
Rear Shocks: Koni Yellows
Panhard Rod: Custom Adjustable handmade
4 Link: STOCK

Bracing: Kelway Front Strutbrace, Custom Rear weld-in brace

Pro's: Really stiff in the front
Con's: not so much in the back

Extra Comments: i love it all i need is more money and POWER!!!!

mereki.

[FAST EDDIE]

Car: 86
Car use (e.g grip/drift): drift
Front Struts: s13 hsd
Spring Rate/ Free Height: 8kg
Inserts (brand/model): hsd i guess?
LCA's: s13/86 half half
RCA's (size if you have them): n/a
Strut Tops: cusco
Front Sway Bar: std 86
Castor Arms: std extra thread cut

Rear Springs: 6kg
Rear Shocks: kyb excelg
Panhard Rod: whiteline
REAR SWAYBAR whiteline 18mm adj

4 Link: poly urethane lowers adj whiteline uppers.

Bracing: whiteline front strut top

Pro's: s13 front gear is hard to get to work well but works well when you get a handle on it all.
Con's: had to wind out -4 deg to stop understeer

Extra Comments: its fairly simple as sus setups go but i just drive the car tot he conditions opposed to adjusting shit all the time.



Car: 86
Car use (e.g grip/drift): street drift
Front Struts: std
Spring Rate/ Free Height: std chopped
Inserts (brand/model): std
LCA's: xt130
RCA's (size if you have them): nope
Strut Tops: std
Front Sway Bar: whiteline 27mm
Castor Arms: std

Rear Springs: 4.5kg
Rear Shocks: std
Panhard Rod: std
SWaybar whiteline 18mm non adj
4 Link: std

Bracing: none

Pro's: real soft street ride with decent cornering
Con's: spring rate is a little low in the front

Extra Comments: have taken it tot he track a couple of times and drifted ok but seemed to dig in front wheel

[stuartgze]

nice setup dude, give us a yell if you want the shocks tuned can have em sent down and redamped to suit, might not even need different swaybars

I might try a rear sway bar first then maybe 8kg/6kg springs and if i'm not happy with that ill pm you about messing with the shocks.

T3 arms are good. but if your running RCA i would get longer bolts than you would normally use as they are a bit thicker than the standard arms. i'm only running them on the out setting because my wheel hit the body before i run out of lock.

[R&D Mechanical]

whats the relocation of the panhard rod mounting for dave?

[Dish]

Car: AE86
Car use (e.g grip/drift): Grip/Daily
Front Struts: 86 struts converted to coil-over
Spring Rate/ Free Height: 8kg/200mm
Inserts (brand/model): KYB AGX 4-way adjust
LCA's: Corona's
RCA's (size if you have them): 33mm
Strut Tops: Cusco
Front Sway Bar: Whiteline 24 odd mm
Castor Arms: Factory 86

Rear Springs: 215mm 6kg AJPS/Aurora Springs
Rear Shocks: TRD Blue 8 way adjust
Panhard Rod: Noltec Adjustable
4 Link: Factory 86

Bracing: Whiteline Front Strut Brace, AJPS Rear/Harness Brace

Pro's: Fairly predictable, great turn in and just feels comfortable.

Con's: Little stiff for shitty roads at times.

Extra Comments: Great set-up for me.

[Chaos Theory]

http://www.thegreenhead.com/imgs/vurtego-pogo-stick-3.jpg

[Sam-Q]

Car: mostly ae86
Car use (e.g grip/drift): grip/circuit
Front Struts: custom shortened ra28 converted to coilover
Spring Rate/ Free Height: 275/4.9kg 200mm
Inserts (brand/model): KYB AGX
LCA's: xt130
RCA's (size if you have them): custom 45mm
Strut Tops: ae86 with an aditional modified Corona top hat retainer.
Front Sway Bar: whiteline adjustable
Castor Arms: stock

Rear Springs: custom whiteline, variable rate
Rear Shocks: kyb (holden wagon)
Panhard Rod: my own custom
4 Link: stock with bushes

Bracing: My own custom cro-mo strut brace

Pro's: stiff enough to be level all round but not soft enough to not slow me down over bumps

Con's: Problem with rear rear suspension, suspect roll oversteer due to too soft a rear springs. Will likely go to my own custom coil-overs for the back to address the issue.

Extra Comments: Also have custom lower mounts on diff to have a greater anti-squat angle.

[Celica RA45]

car RA 45 GT celica
car use circuit
front struts RA45
spring rate 300lbs /230mm free height
inserts bilstein shocks
lca mx62
rca 30mm
strut tops cusco
front bar fully adjustable
caster arms std
rear springs 200 lbs
rear shocks bilstein
panhard rod fully adjustable up and down and sideways with rose joints
4 link rear end with new std bushes
std rear bar
front brakes AP 4 spots with AP rotors 310mmx28mm under 15inch wheels
back brakes ap lockheed 4 spots with 270 x 20mm
tyres bridgestones 550 s 205x50 x 15 on 15x7 inch wheels
front car
neg camber 5degress
caster 5 degress
toe 2out
is also rear diff is a Fseries with 4.3 ratio
car weighs 980 kilos with 190 kilowasps at back wheels from a NA motor

[Celica RA45]

pic of car

[Konakid]

Love it mate

[MINIHORSE]

Looks BOMB....id rep that on the street

[hachi_dk]

now that is what i call a plenum!

[driftke70]

Setup i hope to be testing very soon!

Car: keto
Car use (e.g grip/drift): drift/grip
Front Struts: xt130 converted to coilovers
Spring Rate/ Free Height: eibach 8kg with helper springs
Inserts (brand/model): tokico hts
LCA's: sigma
RCA's (size if you have them): 40mm ajps
Strut Tops: cusco
Front Sway Bar: Selbys 24mm adj
Castor Arms: std extra thread cut new bushes

Rear Springs: 6kg ajps 220mm
Rear Shocks: tokico hts
Panhard Rod: whiteline braced mount
Traction brackets: whiteline
REAR SWAYBAR whiteline 18mm adj

4 Link: std length rose jointed 4 links till rego have channels to go equal after rego.

Bracing: modified cusco front strut brace
ultra racing fender bracing,
cusco front castor brace
full weld in cage
tube rear end.
Pro's: all adjustable
Con's: havnt driven it yet!
Extra Comments:The basis for it is predictability and traction independent of tyre usage, will give more details after I use it and no doubt change one or two things. Note the 8kg springs will have a heavier motor on top of them and the rears have a heavier diff acting on them.

[Celica RA45]

pics of it around sandown

[ArbPotatoes]

Love that car man! Looks insane!

[Valkyrie]

Car: RA60 with a 1JZGTTE
Car use (e.g grip/drift): Track drift only, going through engineering atm.
Front Struts: S13/G4
Spring Rate/ Free Height: 8kg
Inserts (brand/model): G4
LCA's: MX63 with lock stops removed (7cm wider than factory)
RCA's (size if you have them) :N/A
Strut Tops: G4 S13
Front Sway Bar: 24mm
Castor Arms: Standard

Rear Springs: 6kg 200mm
Rear Shocks: Pedders Suzuki Sierra
Panhard Rod: Factory
4 Link: Factory

Bracing: None

Pro's: Front feels solid, predictable and flat when driven in a "grip manner". Stable under brakes. Has excellent ground clearance, ripple strips are nasty:embarassed:
Con's: To soft at the rear, violent snap/roll oversteer. It is too soft in the rear compared to the front. Most likely the small factory rear swaybar and lack of castor don't help. Currently have to actually counter steer as the castor is very minimal.

Extra Comments: Very happy with the setup for the money spent. Next steps will be too add as much castor as the factory rods will allow. Will then add a stiffer rear adjustable swaybar for the last practice drift day for the year.

Ultimately it will have:

Adjustable castor arms
Adjustable lower trailing arms
Adjustable panhard rod (watts linkage with adjustable roll centre would be lovely)
Decent front S13 coilovers (Apexi N1 maybe?)
Swap in the front JZA70 Bilsteins into the rear of my car. Will swap appropriate lower bushes when doing this (Already have these).
Fit lock spacers (Already have these)
Maybe fit some Xris modified cut and shut S13 steering arms. My brother just happens to have a set of these:D

[Nic19]

Car:AE71
Car use (e.g grip/drift):hills/drift
Front Struts:ae86
Spring Rate/ Free Height:stock, chopped
Inserts (brand/model):stock
LCA's:sigma
RCA's (size if you have them):none
Strut Tops:tein adjustable
Front Sway Bar:stock
Castor Arms:stock

Rear Springs:falcon choppies
Rear Shocks:sierras
Panhard Rod:AJPS
4 Link:stock

Bracing:none

running 3.2 neg camber, 0 toe, 3 degrees castor
plans r to convert front to coilovers and 7kg springs with bilstein inserts and RCA's
rear i plan to run bilsteins and get a 20mm swaybar, maybe raise it up a lil too

Pro's: seems to be alright at the moment, cant wait to bilstein it up!
Con's:lil sloppy

Extra Comments:has fc brakes, custom steering arms and lock spacer for epic lock.

[Konakid]

Get some front and rear strut braces when you get the spring and bilstein setup mate, will make a MASSIVE difference to the car.

[Sam-Q]

what kind a rear brace are we talking here Kona?

[Clinton]

Car:AE86
Car use (e.g grip/drift):drift
Front Struts:Custom Compact coilovers
Spring Rate/ Free Height:420Lbs =~7.5kg
Inserts (brand/model):Kyb AGX 4-way adj. set on 2 atm. (Was running 3 but it now feels abit more stable.
LCA's:New XT130
RCA's (size if you have them):40mm AJPS *limited edition non annodised*
Steering Arm: PS arms
Strut Tops:Cusco baby!
Front Sway Bar:Cusco baby!
Castor Arms:stock

Rear Springs:AJPS 6kg
Rear Shocks:Kyb VN wags?
Panhard Rod:AJPS
4 Link:stock

Bracing:none

running 2.5 neg camber, .5 toe, 3 degrees castor
Side note;
I Want to run maxed stock arms next alignment. And I don't think the boys who did my lock spacer did it right. I think im just getting all the extra lock over standard from the PS arms?


Pro's: I love driving it a lot!
Con's: Police.

[sundee]

Car: Ke70
Car use (e.g grip/drift): Daily/Drift
Front Struts: Custom coilovers - ST141 base
Spring Rate/ Free Height: 8kg/200mm + Helpers
Inserts (brand/model): KYB AGX 4 way adj
LCA's: Rose Jointed
RCA's (size if you have them): T3 33mm
Strut Tops: T3
Front Sway Bar: Selbys 24mm adj
Castor Arms: T3 Rose Jointed Adj

Rear Springs: AJPS 6kg 200mm
Rear Shocks: TRD Blue 8 way adj
Rear Swaybar: Slebys 20mm adj
Panhard Rod: T3 rose jointed adj
4 Link: T3 Unequal length rose jointed - will go equal length + box section after rego ;)

Bracing:

front strut brace
added chasis bracing between chasis rails foward of the engine

More to come - cage later on

Pro's: should be good
Con's: "should" - hmm cops :worried:

Extra Comments:

havent driven it yet, but with all the adjustability i should have it performing well.
T3 Ps arms + T3 Outer tie rods + Lock spacer ..err hmm
R32 GTSt brakes..

[Konakid]

what kind a rear brace are we talking here Kona?

Something like this, makes a fair difference

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/1/0/6/34348.jpg

Also, after driving my old corolla with out a strut brace then bolting one on (lent it to a mate) this difference in turn in response and front end grip was very, very noticeable.

[.ady]

Car:AE86
Car use (e.g grip/drift):drift / touge
Front Struts:ae86
Spring Rate/ Free Height:8kg 210mm ajps
Inserts (brand/model):celica gt4s short strokes
LCA's:stock will be going xt130 wen im not lazy
RCA's (size if you have them): whitelines 30-40mm ?
Strut Tops:cusco
Front Sway Bar:stock
Castor Arms:stock

Rear Springs:6kg 210mm ajps
Rear Shocks:sierras
Panhard Rod:whiteline
Rear Sway Bar:stock
4 Link:stock

Bracing:front cusco

got lock spacer and apparently i have pwr steering arms in car atm but seems shit lock to me

running -2.5 neg camber, 0 toe, castor increased a tiny bit from stock

Pro's: seems stiff enough not bad for sliding could be better
Con's: abit harsh for daily duties, seems abit sloppy in my opinion

need better tyre choice i guess to really test it out

[jdm70]

Just wanting to no if excel G short stroke front shocks in ae86 struts be ok with 6kg 200mm springs. Will these shocks keep the springs captive and will it be stiff enough any help would be appreciated

Thanx

[ae86]

depends what car they were made for which makes or breaks the stroke, if you havnt chosen some yet st185 would prob be best to go they will be fine

[AJPS]

they will be fine but not captive

strut needs to be cut down

[Sam-Q]

Konakid: looks like a good design to me

jdm70: use helper springs

[blair]

Car: Aus AE86
Car use: Drift.
Front Struts: AE86 Coil over.
Spring Rate/ Free Height: 8kg, 220mm.
Inserts: AE92 TRD Yellow Insert.
LCA's: XT130
RCA's : 40mm.
Strut Tops: Cusco camber tops.

Rear Springs: 6kg spring 200mm.
Rear Shocks: TRD Blue 8 way adjust.

Pro's: Stiff enough for the track. adjustability.
Con's: I live halway in the bush so the roads really suck + my DRIVEWAY! (tar laid down soon swoit!)

Extra Comments:only other thing i wil be upgrading is sway bars and bushes all round.

I should add to this, as it has been like 18months since!

Other parts that have gone in/changed:

Whiteline Rear swaybar 18mm
Polyurethane Rear trailing arm bushes
Polyurethane Panhard bushes
Polyurethane Rack mount bushes
190mm 7kg Rear springs

Pros: RIDICULOUS increase in stability, firmer and more predictable body roll.
Cons: Oversteery. Need's 9kg's up front and the rest of the bushes up front changed (have castor rod and LCA's both ready to go in)

:)

[jdm70]

coudnt i use the spacer for the shock to save cutting the struts

[Dylan]

You could use something like this.

http://technotoytuning.com/productdetail.php?p=110

[jdm70]

dylan i never even new of that site thay got some crazy bit of gear. Thanx mate

[ae71ness]

sundee86 from spirited drive [sponsor] sells all the stuff.

Car: ke70
Car use (e.g grip/drift): track drift
Front Struts: xt130 coilovers
Spring Rate/ Free Height: regular shocks with helper springs and 8kg coil springs.
Inserts (brand/model): nfi?
LCA's: xt130
RCA's (size if you have them): ajps 40mm
Strut Tops: t3 camber tops
Front Sway Bar: 24mm whiteline
Castor Arms: techno toy rose jointed

Rear Springs: ajps 4.5/6kg?
Rear Shocks: boge short stroke
Panhard Rod: ajps adj.
4 Link: zilch

Bracing: front kelway, rear unknown

Pro's: should get really effin sideways
Con's: track car means to the bottom of the street and back or expensive track days + not done.

Extra Comments: also got t3 knuckles and outer tie rods, need inner tie rods , wrack spacer and 86 rack.

[blake.]

Car: ke70
Car use (e.g grip/drift): daily/drift
Front Struts: ae86 coilovers
Spring Rate/ Free Height:10?kg coil springs. very fucking stiff, when i push down on the guard the car doesnt move.
Inserts (brand/model): kyb trd blues, want grees tho.
LCA's: st130 (same as standard)
RCA's (size if you have them): no thanks
Strut Tops: tien
Front Sway Bar: standard
Castor Arms: standard

Rear Springs: king springs lows with 2.5 coils cut off.
Rear Shocks: koni
Panhard Rod: custom made by penrith city customs from a commadore rod with a adjuster put in a nd superpro bushes( all up cost me $70,)
4 Link: standard

Bracing: none

Pro's: i can drift in it.
Con's: to many, front springs are great for sydneys roads

Extra Comments: also got t3 knuckles and outer tie rods, upgraded rack bushes.

[Jman_KE70]

Car: KE70
Car use (e.g grip/drift):Drift
Front Struts:AE86
Spring Rate/ Free Height: 8kg
Inserts (brand/model):KYB Excel G
LCA's: Kelway Rose Joint Adjustable
RCA's (size if you have them): AJPS 40mm
Strut Tops: Cusco
Front Sway Bar: Whiteline 24mm
Castor Arms:Standard

Rear Springs: 6kg 200mm
Rear Shocks: Boge
Panhard Rod: AJPS on-car adjustable


Bracing:Kelway Front, Weld-in Rear

Pro's: lots of oversteer
Con's: needs new bushes

Extra Comments:
Camber: -3
Castor: +4
Toe:-2mm

[AJPS]

Car: ke70
Car use (e.g grip/drift): daily/drift
Front Struts: ae86 coilovers
Spring Rate/ Free Height:10?kg coil springs. very fucking stiff, when i push down on the guard the car doesnt move.
Inserts (brand/model): kyb trd blues, want grees tho.
LCA's: st130 (same as standard)
RCA's (size if you have them): no thanks
Strut Tops: tien
Front Sway Bar: standard
Castor Arms: standard

Rear Springs: king springs lows with 2.5 coils cut off.
Rear Shocks: koni
Panhard Rod: custom made by penrith city customs from a commadore rod with a adjuster put in a nd superpro bushes( all up cost me $70,)
4 Link: standard

Bracing: none

Pro's: i can drift in it.
Con's: to many, front springs are great for sydneys roads

Extra Comments: also got t3 knuckles and outer tie rods, upgraded rack bushes.

Why no RCA?

[blake.]

havent been bothered buying one lol

btw your bout to have pm from me :)

[MR86ER]

Car: Hachi
Car use (e.g grip/drift):daily/dori gets the girls
Front Struts:AE86
Spring Rate/ Free Height: 8kg king lows
Inserts (brand/model):koni sports adjustable
LCA's: stock
RCA's (size if you have them): T3 30mm
Strut Tops: T3
Front Sway Bar: Whiteline 24mm blade adjustable
Castor Arms:stock

Rear Springs: 6kg king lows
Rear Shocks: Koni sport adjustable
Panhard Rod: whiteline

Pro's: nice and stiff ok for daily use
Con's: needs more low

[lovemy86]

wooo, stock everything with some king springs fixed up by an angle grinder!!

[AJPS]

^ and how is that working out for you?

[lovemy86]

^ and how is that working out for you?

every time i make it around a corner alive, its a good day lol
the massive slop in the steering is more concerning though......
i'll get around to it one day.

[drift kid]

Car: AE86
Car use : daily, odd drifting
Front Struts: ae86 struts, shortened to suit ae92 inserts using HSD coilover kit.
Spring Rate/ Free Height: 7kg/mm
Inserts (brand/model): KYB excel G AE92's
LCA's: GH sigma
RCA's (size if you have them): 40mm AJPS
Strut Tops: Standard Toyota
Front Sway Bar: Whiteline 24mm adjustable.
Castor Arms: Standard.

Rear Springs: Standard cut.
Rear Shocks: standard.
Panhard Rod: Standard, custom adjustable using specially made adjustor peices.
4 Link: standard.

Bracing: cusco front strut brace, custom rear strut brace made my me.

Pro's: Handles great, the 7kg/mm springs are perfect for daily and occasional track use.
Con's: The large ammount of negative camber up front can be a burden sometimes though as i have a feeling its making the car understeer a little during hard cornering. The rear could also be stiffer to help for skidding.


Extra Comments: The shortness of the AE92 front inserts allows for massive drops in ride height and the camber looks sick lol :P

[lolwat]

dont forget the -5.17 degree's of camber ben HAHAHAH

[timmeh12]

I swear any post that drift kidd makes you HAVE to comment it after with some useless comment.

[AJPS]

I swear any post that drift kidd makes you HAVE to comment it after with some useless comment.

I thought I was the only one that noticed.

[ke70dave]

my suspensions:

front:

jap 86 calipers with vented slotted discs
6kg springs
sw20 excel G rear shocks, in 86 struts, converted to coilovers
40?mm RCAs
camber tops
strut brace
non powersteering arms
rear

adj panhard
343113 KYB excel G shocks
cut standard springs (so prolly 3-4kg)
stiffer bushes in trailing arms.

positives: good setup, turns in great,
cons: brakes overheat on hard mountain drives, need to get PS arms. shocks arent the best, but they were cheap and do the job.

[AJPS]

what pads/fluid you running?

[ke70dave]

fluid is whatever i could get from repco in my mad rush to get he car back on teh road. i should probably get some differnet stuff. castrol i think. suggestions?

pads are QFM (?) hpx pads. the ones that are about $90. they are damn grippy once you get a bit of heat into them (and feel not that great first thing in the morning..). but yer last mt nebo drive,on the downhill sections (hairpin after hairpin) lost them towards the end. was probably after 3 or 4 hard stops less than 10secs appart. so i think they did alright..they are only 234mm afterall.

im considering building some brake ducts (using the speed holes in my kamaii lip) dunno how much difference they will make though.

[AJPS]

run TRW 600 fluid or similar, then try again.

Otherwise A1rm.

I really push my car and i find the brakes never really fade

But at the end of a long tight downhill section you need a bit more pedal pressure (lifting off the seat :P) but the same retardation is there.

[ill-minded]

Car: RA65
Car use (e.g grip/drift): Street
Front Struts: Stock, shortened 40mm, weld on sleeve kit
Spring Rate/ Free Height: 8kg/mm, 200mm free height
Inserts (brand/model): KYB Excel-G SW20 rear inserts
LCA's: Stock unmodified
RCA's (size if you have them): N/A
Strut Tops: Cusco camber adjustable pillow ball tops to suit xA6x Celica
Front Sway Bar: Stock
Castor Arms: Stock

Rear Springs: Falcon springs, cut to 280mm free height
Rear Shocks: Stock

Bracing: None, but will be making a strut brace in future

Pro's: Goes alright for how it is at the moment. Much better than the standard setup, anyway.
Con's: Excel-G inserts are rather under-damped for 8kg/mm springs in the front. Back end needs bushes replaced and an alignment as it gets a bit floaty at speed.

Extra Comments: I still need to get a decent wheel alignment, as the "by the eye" alignment I did isn't the best. I will also be replacing/upgrading all of the bushes, swaybars, shocks all around and rear springs when funds permit.

[capt. crunch]

car: Ke70 full stock but in process of modding
use: daily/ want to set up to start drifting
I'm sorting out my suspension set up at the moment, I got a free pair of EL falcon rears and I guess I'll match up to the commadore excel g's.

for the front i got a coil over kit and 86 struts that needs to be cut and welded, the springs with the coil over kit are 8kg/mm so I'm wondering are the excel G's able to handle that well? Just asking because I read somewhere along this thread they can't keep springs captive and couldn't figure out if they can work well with the spring rate. if so which are preferred, ST185 or SW20 excel g's?
was looking at the sw20's AGX rears but they are pretty $$$ for me at the moment so deciding if i should hold out and get those or if the excel g's will be fine.

how important is getting RCA's and how much can i chop off the fal#### springs to still keep it at a 'legal' ride height?

[Dylan]

If your coilover kit has helper springs, spring captivity will be ok. Its worth spending a bit extra and getting RCAs, you dont really want your car to be bumpsteering after you've gone to the trouble of coilovers, shocks etc. For shocks I know there pretty pricey but Bilsteins will be the last shock you'll buy.

[capt. crunch]

yeah i saw the bilstein price but as a uni student at the moment i just can't justify that price...

I really just want to know if a set of excel g's can work with 8kg front rates so that i can do it on the cheap for now. Then I can take my time and save some cash and get a decent set up in a year or so.

[shift_rook]

ecel g's won't really be in their working range with a 8kg spring run a 6kg front spring and reap the rewards, excel g's still probably don't have enough damping forces but it'll feel a shit load better than 8's

[capt. crunch]

i just got this kit sitting around already with 8kg springs, so i'd rather pay a little extra then for the better shocks than go buy softer springs if im only using them for a short while.

[ill-minded]

refer to my setup (just before your post) regarding shock inserts.

Excel-G are indeed well underdamped for 8kg springs, but they aren't appalling so to speak (like running with blown shocks). they would be alright for around 4-5kg springs in my opinion, but i'd go for AGX or bilsteins if you can save enough for them. the only reason i got Excel-G inserts was because it was all i could afford at the time and i needed the car back on the road ASAP. it's probably worth mentioning that the front end on an RA65 is a bit heavier than a KE70, which does affect damping characteristics.

also, i run without helper springs and i have about 1" of travel where the springs aren't captive on full droop. i use the standard bump stop as a handy locator for the spring to pop straight back into the upper seat. it's no major concern if the spring seats properly without assistance, but it's still technically defectable and not ideal. also, helper springs aren't cheap :\

[Jonny Rochester]

Car: AE86
Car use: Night drives/ Hillclimb/ time attack

Front Struts: AE86 cut 40mm shorter, coilover sleave welded
Spring Rate/ Free Height: 6.8kg/mm, 250mm
Inserts (brand/model): KYB AGX, position 1. (AJPS)
LCA's: KE55 (10mm longer than AE86)
RCA's: 30mm?
Strut Tops: Cusco, max setting for neg camber
Steering: P/S knuckles, extra-lock rack ends I make myself
Bump stop: none

Rear Springs: KING 4.8kg/mm
Rear Shocks: Koni Sport, 1/2 turn from hard (for Starlet/Paseo)
Trailing arms: stock
Lateral rod: Cusco race (solid bearings)
Other: AJPS traction brackets, using top position
Bump stop: cut a segment off

Ride height: higher than 100mm. More like 160mm at rear.
Alignment: 4 deg caster, zero toe.

[Valkyrie]

Update:thumbup:

Car: RA60 with a 1JZGTTE
Car use (e.g grip/drift): Track drift only but passed engineering 2 weeks ago:).
Front Struts: RA60 shortened ~40mm with weld-on sleeves.
Spring Rate/ Free Height: 8kg
Inserts (brand/model): Koni Yellows (AE92 I think).
LCA's: Sigma
RCA's (size if you have them): 33mm T3
Strut Tops: Standard
Front Sway Bar: 24mm
Castor Arms: Standard (adjustment is more or less maxed out)
Steering Arms: T3 steering arms set to the shortest setting.
Lock Mods: AJPS lock spacer
Brake Calipers: RX-7 4 pots
Brake Disks: Z31 274x22mm


Rear Springs: 6kg 200mm
Rear Shocks: Pedders Suzuki Sierra
Panhard Rod: AJPS modified with smaller nuts to increase adjustment.
4 Link: Factory
Rear Swaybar: Standard
Rear calipers: ST141
Rear Disks: ST141 281x10mm
Differential: MX23 F-Series
Differential Centre: Mig technician:cool: I have a TRD 2-way literally sitting under my bed to go in it.

Pros: The front end feels a lot better with the Toyota gear back in. S13 gear does work, but feels a little strange at time. There is a lot of lock with the current setup, and it feels very stable when hard under brakes (car will do some sprint days as well). The car slides quite predictably, but I need to practice a lot more:embarassed:

Cons: The excellent setup at the front has highlighted the lack of rear end development. I need springs that seat properly, and some better shocks. I also need to chase up my adjustable rear swaybar I ordered.

The car has new bushes front and rear.

[KurtHS]

Car:AE71
Car use (e.g grip/drift):hills/drift
Front Struts:ae86
Spring Rate/ Free Height:stock, chopped
Inserts (brand/model):stock
LCA's:sigma
RCA's (size if you have them):none
Strut Tops:tein adjustable
Front Sway Bar:stock
Castor Arms:stock

Rear Springs:falcon choppies
Rear Shocks:sierras
Panhard Rod:AJPS
4 Link:stock

Bracing:none

running 3.2 neg camber, 0 toe, 3 degrees castor
plans r to convert front to coilovers and 7kg springs with bilstein inserts and RCA's
rear i plan to run bilsteins and get a 20mm swaybar, maybe raise it up a lil too

Pro's: seems to be alright at the moment, cant wait to bilstein it up!
Con's:lil sloppy

Extra Comments:has fc brakes, custom steering arms and lock spacer for epic lock.

Continuing on from this, although I've yet to drive it the car has...


Car: AE71
Car use (e.g grip/drift): hills/drift
Front Struts: AJPS Coilovers
Spring Rate/ Free Height: 8KG/Unsure quite low.
Inserts (brand/model): Bilstein
LCA's: XT130 changed from the Sigma LCA's it used to have, they suited their purpose in achieving epic lock but they weren't really suited to street driving, the camber tops were set to full positive and even then there was still a bit of negative camber, 15x8's would poke a shit load under flared guards.
RCA's (size if you have them): Still none
Strut Tops:Tein adjustable
Front Sway Bar: A fair bit thicker but I'm not sure how thick, 15mm maybe.
Castor Arms:stock

Rear Springs: AJPS 6kg/mm 215mm free height may chop off a coil or so because it's a little too high in the rear.
Rear Shocks: Boge Turbo shocks,
Panhard Rod:AJPS
4 Link: Stock
Rear Swaybar: May be stock or could be a little thicker.

Bracing: None at the moment.

Plans/Settings: running 3.2 neg camber, 0 toe, 3 degrees castor
plans r to convert front to coilovers and 7kg springs with bilstein inserts and RCA's
rear i plan to run bilsteins and get a 20mm swaybar, maybe raise it up a lil too

Pro's: seems to be alright at the moment, cant wait to bilstein it up!
Con's:lil sloppy

Mine: Build engine, get an alignment then start playing with it all after I see how it handles, buy a front strut brace and make a rear one.

Extra Comments: Still has fc brakes, custom steering arms and lock spacer for epic lock but now the lock is held back by tyre scrub after changing the LCA's. New urethane bushes throughout.

[slydar]

Car: AE86 coupe
Car use (e.g grip/drift): grip/daily
Front Struts: 86, coilover, shortened ~60mm
Spring Rate/ Free Height: 6kg with helper
Inserts (brand/model): kyb excel g late celica
LCA's: stock
RCA's (size if you have them): 40mm
Strut Tops: SP-tec
Front Sway Bar: 27mm? pedders
Castor Arms: normal

Rear Springs: AJPS 4.5kg custom 215mm
Rear Shocks: 2nd hand comodore wagon
Panhard Rod: stock
4 Link: stock
tractions brackets: yes
rear sway bar: trd 16mm?

Bracing: cusco front tower brace

Pro's: quite decent as a daily. heaps of grip
Con's: too much grip

Extra Comments: was hoping the car would still be slide able. def not. i have a small port with cams and there is just no where near enough power.

[shift_rook]

what tyres are you running? what speed are you entering corners? you mean it just pushes to understeer before anything happens or you just can't break traction? might be worth looking into reverting to stock front bar

[Jacobxxx]

I'd go standard sway bars, if people can skid standard bigport with lockers and cut springs, your smallport with cams shouldn't have problems..

[KurtHS]

Keep the rear swaybar and either ditch the front swaybar all together or run a stock one.

[shift_rook]

i wouldn't ditch the front swaybar only running excel g's in the front, the roll rate would be terrible, one small thing at a time. if it promotes to much understeer it might be worth swapping out both

[claw]

soften front tyres, run 40 + in rear, youll spin anything, stock front swaybar is the go also

[slydar]

probably should have mentioned that.

the tires are Hero Fidanza HZ-1s front and rear. the balance is ok, i can make it oversteer, it just doesnt have enough power to actually maintain a drift.

i dont think its my driving at all. i wouldnt say im inexperienced, ive drifted cars with less power also.

its not really surprising. that type of tire ( considered a match for a 595, ive driven both and would say thats pretty accurate) and that soft of a spring rate probably wasnt ever going to work (maybe on dirt), but ive never run springs that soft in my car so i wasnt sure.

i know what to do to make it slide. i was more mentioning it for information for people considering running spring rates that soft. i was just surpised with how much grip it has. some old farts would say thats still kinda over sprung.

[benzo]

front swaybar is huuuge. I ran a 24mm (+17mm rear) for two weeks and hated it

I'm sure you've got it all figured out :)

[slydar]

yeah. with those spring rates it works pretty good. a bigger rear bar to go with it would make it better. but im changing spring rates so..

[claw]

ditch the heros for steerers, dip in your pockets and run something, decent, a federal 595 is better and only around 30 per tyre more, or adrenalines, or if your running 15s and go all out with r1rs haha

but seriously, there is no way you car shouldnt turn em, what trye pressures do you run, theres a big difference from 32-36 psi

[Jacobxxx]

ditch the heros for steerers, dip in your pockets and run something, decent, a federal 595 is better and only around 30 per tyre more, or adrenalines, or if your running 15s and go all out with r1rs haha

but seriously, there is no way you car shouldnt turn em, what trye pressures do you run, theres a big difference from 32-36 psi

Can't get 595 in 14's, hz1's are from the same factory and extremely similar tyre

[claw]

yeah, you can, in about 4 different sizes from 185/55 - 205/60

ive recommended them for a few cars lately, and any hero ive seen, has been slippery as shit, i dont see this being different

[AJPS]

and any hero ive seen, has been slippery as shit, i dont see this being different

yeah i agree with this - ive not seen the ones that D has tho

Just put a stock ARB in it, and go faster

a small port is never going to bag the tyres, should be good tho

[Jacobxxx]

yeah, you can, in about 4 different sizes from 185/55 - 205/60

ive recommended them for a few cars lately, and any hero ive seen, has been slippery as shit, i dont see this being different

I tried for ages to get some, federal dealer kept telling me they don't stock them anymore in 14's so i opted for the HZ1's, can't complain about them though. Were awesome in super heavy rain at QR and then awesome in the dry.

[claw]

they are definetly avalable in melbourne

[Jacobxxx]

Stupid QLD/Northern NSW, Clay was telling me he can get them too. Ah well.

[timbo]

Car: AE86
Car use: non-drift/daily
Front Struts: AE86, TRD coilover
Spring Rate/ Free Height: ~8kg/mm, 200mm
Inserts: Tokico HTS 102F
LCA's: XT130, RA40 rack ends
RCA's: T3 33mm
Strut Tops: Cusco normal caster
Front Sway Bar: 21mm Stock, urethane bushes
Castor Arms: Stock

Rear Springs: TRD ~6kg/mm
Rear Shocks: TRD Blue 8way
Panhard Rod: Whiteline
4 Link: Whiteline solid lowers, adjustable uppers, urethane bushes
Tractions brackets: T3
Rear sway bar: 13mm Stock

Bracing: Whiteline strut brace, Cusco half cage

Pro's: Plenty of grip, very direct
Con's: Little stiff at times

Extra Comments: Did previously run 24mm front and 18mm rear Whiteline ARB's and the car handles much better without them. Rear could probably go a little bigger, maybe ~15mm.

[LittleRedSpirit]

Car: AE71 1983 Slanty
Car use (e.g grip/drift): Daily/Grip.
Front Struts:AE86 Coilover cut to suit ae92/st185-205/short stroke 86 shocks. Suits body length of 332mm with no spacer.
Spring Rate/ Free Height:approx 6kg rate possibly eibach.
Inserts (brand/model):Koni Sport ST185 adjustables (yellow)
LCA's:XT130 with original Toyota balljoints.
RCA's (size if you have them): 30mm Techno Toy Tuning
Strut Tops: Tein Caster added for ae86 which suits ke70/ae71 perfectly.
Front Sway Bar: Stock.
Castor Arms:Stock.

Rear Springs: Superlow Kings fairly soft.
Rear Shocks: Koni Sport AE86 adjustables (yellow)
Panhard Rod: Whiteline Adjustables
4 Link:Stock lowers with Nolathane Bushes. Adjustable upper whitelines with the urethane bushes.

Bracing: Strut brace, and a towbar with the tongue removed to stiffen the rear end and protect the fuel tank from rear enders. Saved my life once already.

Steering Stuff: Rebuilt ae71 rack and pinion with Quaife parts (2.5 lock to lock). AE71 Rack ends, RA40/KE30/XT130 tie rod ends and link tubes. STD ae86 steering arms.

Pro's: Good all rounder. Nimble steering but a little sensitive over 160klm/hr, but still quite safe.
Con's: Set at highest possible ride height and still quite low. Still above 100mm though.

Extra Comments:

[anastasios]

Car: AE71 1983 Slanty
Car use (e.g grip/drift): Daily/Grip.
Front Struts:AE86 Coilover cut to suit ae92/st185-205/short stroke 86 shocks. Suits body length of 332mm with no spacer.
Spring Rate/ Free Height:approx 6kg rate possibly eibach.
Inserts (brand/model):Koni Sport ST185 adjustables (yellow)
LCA's:XT130 with original Toyota balljoints.
RCA's (size if you have them): 30mm Techno Toy Tuning
Strut Tops: Tein Caster added for ae86 which suits ke70/ae71 perfectly.
Front Sway Bar: Stock.
Castor Arms:Stock.

Rear Springs: Superlow Kings fairly soft.
Rear Shocks: Koni Sport AE86 adjustables (yellow)
Panhard Rod: Whiteline Adjustables
4 Link:Stock lowers with Nolathane Bushes. Adjustable upper whitelines with the urethane bushes.

Bracing: Strut brace, and a towbar with the tongue removed to stiffen the rear end and protect the fuel tank from rear enders. Saved my life once already.

Steering Stuff: Rebuilt ae71 rack and pinion with Quaife parts (2.5 lock to lock). AE71 Rack ends, RA40/KE30/XT130 tie rod ends and link tubes. STD ae86 steering arms.

Pro's: Good all rounder. Nimble steering but a little sensitive over 160klm/hr, but still quite safe.
Con's: Set at highest possible ride height and still quite low. Still above 100mm though.

Extra Comments:

Can you tell me more about your strut tops? what is the part number?

[spiderman]

Car: Scorpion
Car use (e.g grip/drift): Street
Front Struts: Standard
Spring Rate/ Free Height: Cut HD Falcons (5kg?), 240mm
Inserts (brand/model): Monroe Sensatrac (VB Commodore)
LCA's: Stock, 345mm
RCA's (size if you have them): None
Strut Tops: Standard, spun 180deg
Front Sway Bar: Starion 21mm
Castor Arms: Stock
Bushings: NOS stock/Nolathane
Knuckles: Stock

Rear Springs: Lovells low (4kg?), 250mm
Rear Shocks: Monroe GT Gas (TP Magna wagon)
Panhard Rod: Stock
4 Link: Stock
Rear Sway Bar: None

Bracing: None

Pro's: Comfy, looks ok, decent grip
Con's: Needs better/short stroke shocks, 9/7kg springs, bracing F+R and an adjustable panhard

Extra Comments: Not sure how helpful/relevant this is, but hey...
Car's not registered. Has open rear end, so slides like shit unless it's on gravel/wet. 4.6 rear end. Shopping cart-spec Goodyear/Sime 185/65's.

[anastasios]

soooo bought some jdm standard struts the other week to pull apart and get some trd gear for, as i pulled off the dust cover noticed a four way adjustable shock!! i nearly did a back flip

turns out they are Bridgestone Potenza Gymkhanas made by KYB, on the shock it says SUS00125 and MD29 KYB

body length of 402mm, not sure where to measure extended length from

25669

[shift_rook]

Shoulder of the chrome shaft to the base

[Archie4812]

Car:ke70
Car use (e.g grip/drift): drift
Front Struts: s13 g4 coilovers
Spring Rate/ Free Height: 7kg and slammed
Inserts (brand/model):
LCA's: r31
RCA's (size if you have them):
Strut Tops: adjustable g4
Front Sway Bar: not running sway bar
Castor Arms: adjustable r31
knuckles: Custom

Rear Springs: 7kg
Rear Shocks: turbo gas
Panhard Rod: adjustable r31
4 Link:

Bracing: rear weld in supports

Pro's: car doesnt move at all, stiffer then a horney teenagers d**k, front end handles awsome, plenty of grip front and rear
Con's: none, perfect setup for wat i need

Extra Comments:
standard lock is rather small with s13 front for an unknown reason, but with the addition of knuckles and rack spacers i have about 55-65 degress of lock

[dat12c]

Where exactly have you put the bracing?

[Mickey H]

Car: ST141 Wagon
Car use (e.g grip/drift): daily/grip
Front Struts: Stock
Spring Rate/ Free Height: AJPS 180mm 7kg
Inserts (brand/model): KYB Excel G SW20 inserts
LCA's: XT130 w/ Nolathane bushes


Rear Springs: AJPS 6kg 200mm
Rear Shocks: Boge Turbo AE86



Pro's: Great for spirited driving
Con's: Rear rates are too high for my liking, will be changing to 4kg. also needs a strut brace.

Extra Comments:
14x7 MA61's, Yokohama C drive 185/60
Castor: +3 deg
Camber:-1 deg
Toe out: 1mm total

[Rice86]

Car: AE86
Car use (e.g grip/drift): all of it
Front Struts: BC coilovers
Spring Rate/ Free Height: BC coilovers 8kg
Inserts (brand/model):BC coilovers
LCA's: stock AE86
RCA: 40mm/50mm i think
Swaybars F/R: standard front and standard rear
Castor Arms: stock AE86
knuckles: ae86 power steering nuckles
extra: lock spacer, T3 complete 4 links and T3 pan hard rod

Rear Springs: BC coilovers (shock and springs) 6kg
Rear Shocks:BC coilovers (shock and springs)

Extra Comments:
Yokohama S drives 195/50/15
Castor: +3.5
Camber: -2
Toe out: 1mm on both sides

Pro's: so easy to drive with this setup for daily, track, touge, and drifting in the wet, have not tried drifting in the dry with this so i wouldn't know, very neutral and forgiving
Con's: +4 Castor would be better, maybe -2.5 camber when on track/drifting..needs an updated wheel alignment after installing T3 rear end suspension parts

[lolwat]

Car: ke70
Car use (e.g grip/drift): daily, general thrashing
Front Struts: cut 86
Spring Rate/ Free Height: Elbach 8kg
Inserts (brand/model): TRD blue (tokito's)
LCA's: Sigma
RCA: Nup
Swaybars F/R: No Front, Standard Rear
Castor Arms: Just crap Rose joint ones
knuckles: ae86 knuckles Cut and shut
extra: lock spacer, Commo Panhard cut and adjustable

Rear Springs: ajps 210mm 1 1/2 coil cut off 6kg
Rear Shocks: Peddars GSR's keep springs captive and stiff

Extra Comments:
Castor: +4.5 ish
Camber: -4
Toe out: 2.5mm on both sides

Extremly Over steery, power out of corner in the dry(3rd-4th) you feel the rear wanting to step, in the wet its pretty loose, steering feels like a gokart, even with old continental's (comforts) on the front sticks like shit to a blanket

[KE20]

Car: KE20
Car use daily/hills
Front Struts:KE20
Spring Rate/ Free Height: 5kg
Inserts (brand/model): Bilstein
LCA's: Stock
RCA's (size if you have them): T3 30ish mm
Strut Tops: Cusco - 1.3 deg
Front Sway Bar: Stock super pro bushes
Castor Arms: Stock +3

Rear Springs: Stock leaf,2nd leaf flipped
Rear Shocks: TRD green 2nd click from softest
Panhard Rod:None
4 Link:None

Bracing: Cusco front (not fitted atm no stock filter clearance) custom rear being made

Pro's: handles well for what it is,fun to drive
Con's:little stiff in the front,needs reset leaves in the rear

Extra Comments:Needs more grip (tyres) advan AD05/06 in the way for the front

[Flush-on-15s]

Car: AE71
Car use (e.g grip/drift): Grip
Front Struts: AE86 Coilovers
Spring Rate/ Free Height: 6kg 200mm
Inserts (brand/model): KYB excel short stroke
LCA's: ke30 (same as xt130)
RCA's (size if you have them): 40mm
Strut Tops: cusco

Rear Springs: 5kg 180mm on AJPS adjustable spring perch's
Rear Shocks: monroe vn wagon short stroke
Panhard Rod: AJPS Adjustable

Pro's: Haven't even driven the car yet... but should be good adjustable is amazing though very happy with the quality
Con's: very expensive and time consuming to put all this together

[mexr69]

Car: st141 corona
Car use drift
Front Struts: s13 coilovers
Spring Rate/ Free Height: 8kg
Inserts (brand/model): china cheapies
LCA's: r31 lca
RCA's (size if you have them): n/a
Strut Tops: Cusco - 1deg
Front Sway Bar: n/a
Castor Arms: unsure.

Rear Springs: ea falcon extra hd
Rear Shocks: commodore wagon extra hd
Panhard Rod:None
4 Link:None

Bracing: stoock nice n stiff

Pro's: handles well for what it is,fun to drive
Con's: front doesn't correct slight bump streets
apart from that it feels nice.