My KETO project

[Sprinter Freak]

Hey guys, been a long time lurker but only just got my first project car a few weeks ago so thought id start a thread for it.

As far as plans for the car, i'm looking at making a nice streeter which i can drift at the track occasionally. be warned Lots of Pics!

plans are:

Fix the rust in the boot(see photos)
Old school JDM wheels
sort out the boat suspension and lower
4age
and a general tidy up


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The rust...

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how i would like it to look eventually
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well today was a big day, got a set of rims, they need a bit of a clean up but should look nice when there on.
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finished all the vinyl dying, just finishing putting it all back in.
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The door card in the background still needs to be run over with a scotch brite to remove the excess vinyl die.
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i bought a 4AGE! big port head, 7 rib small port block :D
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2 way t series difft50 gearbox, ae71 crossmember, s13 front coilovers and lots of other stuff
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t50 gearbox
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ae71 crossmember
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s13 front coilovers i got for cheap, don't know if ill end up using them, one needs a little work.
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finished polishing my wheels
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what the wheels will look like
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Also got the wire brush attachment out and cut out all the rust in the car :) (black stuff is rust killer)
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i got a domokun drift charm and some stickers and a clutch slave and master cylinder, got some illest and fatlace stickers as well but don't have a pic yet, will get one soon.

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pics of the finished interior
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pics of wheels on
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body work, half way there

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also got some power steering knuckles

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[Sprinter Freak]

Full Prothane bushing kit

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/68604.jpg

Nardi deep corn with red stitch

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adjustable panhard rod :D

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and a haynes corolla manual

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also got a new distributor but haven't got any pics. will get one.

[Sprinter Freak]

also in need of a fuel regulator for my fuel rail, if anyone has one and is in Sydney, can you please pm me.

[svenmate]

First
Interior looks great! Looking forward to seeing this progress :)

[Sprinter Freak]

thanks man, i've never really liked the blue interior, so i'm slowly changing it all over to black :)

[lolwat]

looks awesome man, mad jelly over the nardi friends got one and WOW so nice

[Low Style]

dude your car is looking like mine hahaha black interior and trd gear knob.

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/6/67121.jpg

:DD

[Sprinter Freak]

looks awesome man, mad jelly over the nardi friends got one and WOW so nice

thanks man, yea ive always wanted one and had enough of my shitty saas one so i thought what the hey. btw did you get my pm?


dude your car is looking like mine hahaha black interior and trd gear knob.

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/6/67121.jpg


:DD

hahaha it is hey, almost identical.

[Sprinter Freak]

another update, i got a pair of these :D

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[s13 james]

really nice comming along good , awsome pile of parts to go in,longchamps will look good with low

[sld sho]

hey buddy, sweet build you have there looks mint great work!
just a quick question how did you find dealing with techno toy tunning? how long did it take for the control arms to arrive?

[lolwat]

ill warn you now, you are going to feel those LCA's they make everything so harsh

[Sprinter Freak]

hey buddy, sweet build you have there looks mint great work!
just a quick question how did you find dealing with techno toy tunning? how long did it take for the control arms to arrive?

thanks dude :) um well i didn't deal with them directly, i bought them off there ebay account. i haven't got the arms yet, bought them a few days ago.


ill warn you now, you are going to feel those LCA's they make everything so harsh

are they that bad? :/

[Ke70-noob]

FAAARRRRKKKK man!!! I actually test drove your car not to long ago & was real nice, just didnt have the money for it :). & can i say have you been busy or what coz its come a hell of a long way in such short time!! I dont live far from where you bought it & would be great to meet ya as i have the same plans as you on mine (which i got a few weeks later) & you seem to have much more of an idea than me but your by far way ahead of me in the same time frame & seem to have much deeper pockets as well :) lol. Good job on interior & wheels, i like :)

[lolwat]

are they that bad? :/

well, person who winges to me about his rekons so, its kinda different there is only 2 bushes in the front end (rack bushes) of blakes AE71 , and yea when you drive its harsh

[Sprinter Freak]

really nice comming along good , awsome pile of parts to go in,longchamps will look good with low

thanks dude, yea hopefully it will :)



FAAARRRRKKKK man!!! I actually test drove your car not to long ago & was real nice, just didnt have the money for it :). & can i say have you been busy or what coz its come a hell of a long way in such short time!! I dont live far from where you bought it & would be great to meet ya as i have the same plans as you on mine (which i got a few weeks later) & you seem to have much more of an idea than me but your by far way ahead of me in the same time frame & seem to have much deeper pockets as well :) lol. Good job on interior & wheels, i like :)

Really how long ago did you drive it? Yea i've been working as quickly as i can cause i want to get out onto the track for a slide, and it wont do that in its current form. sadley i live a hourish drive from sutherland:/ have you got a build thread for it up yet? if so send us a link or the url. not really man, i havent really had to much hands on experience, ive just done my research. thanks man.


well, person who winges to me about his rekons so, its kinda different there is only 2 bushes in the front end (rack bushes) of blakes AE71 , and yea when you drive its harsh

ah k fair enough, thanks for the heads up. im not too fussed really, if it gets too much ill just drive my other car :D

[Jesseb369]

go you good thing. You seem organized with your plans! Righton

[lolwat]

everyone has 2 cars :S im broke with one that doesnt run XD hahaha

[Sprinter Freak]

go you good thing. You seem organized with your plans! Righton

cheers, i try :)


everyone has 2 cars :S im broke with one that doesnt run XD hahaha

ouch dude, that sucks:/ only reason i have 2 is cause i got one given to me :P btw you have got a pm

[Delazy]

id have thought u would have alot of other things to purchase before getting t3 control arms...xt130 corona lcas would have been a much more sensible option

[Ke70-noob]

It's ok man as I'm pretty much like all over Sydney all the time & an hour is heaps short traveling time for me. So if your keen just for a chat or a skid then lete know :). Um I think it probs would of been feb some time. Don't worry I didn't thrash it, just took it round the block. I'm on my iphone so don't know how to link but just look for kezs drift project. I'm on page 1 at the moment :)

[marvis]

Sounds good..

Except for stickers and S13 suspension.. Bad choices.

[Jacobxxx]

hahah was waiting for marv to input

did those coilovers come off a sileighty?

[Sprinter Freak]

It's ok man as I'm pretty much like all over Sydney all the time & an hour is heaps short traveling time for me. So if your keen just for a chat or a skid then lete know :). Um I think it probs would of been feb some time. Don't worry I didn't thrash it, just took it round the block. I'm on my iphone so don't know how to link but just look for kezs drift project. I'm on page 1 at the moment :)

Ah k fair enough, alright ill drop you a pm some time soon, haha don't worry i wasn't worried about that, gets a good enough thrashing now :) okk cool ill have a look.


Sounds good..

Except for stickers and S13 suspension.. Bad choices.

Well i've decided against the S13 suspension, and as for the stickers, i dunno i think they look cool :P


hahah was waiting for marv to input

did those coilovers come off a sileighty?

um im not sure man, i got them off a guy on rolla club, not sure what his name was.

[Sprinter Freak]

only a few small updates to note. got a 2L surge tank, pump bracket, 7m of efi fuel hose, VL lft pump and a new radiator. haven't got any pics at the moment but ill get some soon.

[s13 james]

lowness yet? haha jokes,looking forward to seeing this

[Sprinter Freak]

lowness yet? haha jokes,looking forward to seeing this

well at the back yes :P but at them moment it doesn't have front suspension. big update, finally ripped out the 4k with help from my mate ollie :D

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other stuff

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out with the shitty

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and in with the new

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By the way im after a set of front coilovers and a sprinter tailshaft, so if anyone has one hit us up with a pm :)

[Sprinter Freak]

woops re post

[Bluterus]

Nice! Looks like she will be a nice streeter!

Rusted in every single place mine was too lol. Hows the spare wheel well or where the two panels meet behind the rear bumper?

[lolwat]

wtf you got like a mad skid/stone tray on the front of yours, that surge tank look identical to mine:)

[k.aaron]

You work quickly mate nice work. Love the black interior job too.
Best of luck.

[Sprinter Freak]

Nice! Looks like she will be a nice streeter!

Rusted in every single place mine was too lol. Hows the spare wheel well or where the two panels meet behind the rear bumper?

cheers man, hoping it will be once i'm done. my spare wheel well and behind the bumper where pretty much spotless, just a little surface on each.



wtf you got like a mad skid/stone tray on the front of yours, that surge tank look identical to mine:)

yea was the only car i looked at that had it, guessing it was an optional extra or something. yea i'm guessing you got yours off eBay, thats where i got mine.


You work quickly mate nice work. Love the black interior job too.
Best of luck.

yea i'm a bit impatient with cars, not a good thing. thanks man, hoping to eventually have it all black some way down the track.

cheers dude.

another update,got a new alternator belt and cleaned the engine bay, came up mint, just needs a few touch ups, hopefully get that done on friday. really keen to get the new engine in but waiting on a set of steering bushes from America :/ also does anyone know any good toyota wreckers? after a few bits for the engine.

[lolwat]

nah i got mine off a member on here, also if you didnt see in your thread i have a gearstick for you


why are you getting rack bushes from the US????, cost me like 28 bucks for super pro ones

[Bluterus]

I wish I was like you and was impatient mines taken two years but its hard to find time between a full time job and a missus lol plus having two other cars that chew the dollars.

Those stone trays were standard as far as I knew every corolla I've seen untouched by someone trying to mod it has one. Unfortunately your gonna have to lose it when you put in the 4AGE as the sump will hit the tray or so I've heard but you could cut it to make it fit.

As for wreckers man a lot are expensive for 4AGE parts what exactly are you after? This site has got me most of my parts just have the cash ready and check the parts for sale or post up in the wanted section you'd be surprised how quick you'll get stuff.

[Sprinter Freak]

nah i got mine off a member on here, also if you didnt see in your thread i have a gearstick for you


why are you getting rack bushes from the US????, cost me like 28 bucks for super pro ones

Ah k fair enough dude, ok sweet i was just about to check that thread. they were cheap, $20 including postage :P


I wish I was like you and was impatient mines taken two years but its hard to find time between a full time job and a missus lol plus having two other cars that chew the dollars.

Those stone trays were standard as far as I knew every corolla I've seen untouched by someone trying to mod it has one. Unfortunately your gonna have to lose it when you put in the 4AGE as the sump will hit the tray or so I've heard but you could cut it to make it fit.

As for wreckers man a lot are expensive for 4AGE parts what exactly are you after? This site has got me most of my parts just have the cash ready and check the parts for sale or post up in the wanted section you'd be surprised how quick you'll get stuff.

Trust me no you dont, ive burned a pretty large hole in my pocket :( but im hoping ti will be worth it whne its done. yea see i dont have a job atm and im only at tafe 2 and a half days a week, so i get alot of time to work on the car. hmmm hope it doesnt, if it does ill just get rid of it. really :/ im after some bits off the fuel rail, one fuel rail bolt and spacer, main fuel inlet fitting and the line that goes from the inlet manifold into the fuel rail with fittings on each end, also anybody know how much i would be looking at for these?

[Bluterus]

I've pretty much burnt a hole right through my pocket and leg and pretty close to sacrificing my two nuts too lol. So far up to $16,881.71 and still gotta buy 4 tyres, adaptronic e420c, CAS and coil packs, Tseries disc brake diff with LSD, rego and engineering cert. I estimate that to be another $4500.
Even selling my pride and joy 2006 XR8 ute to give me some extra cash so this rolla better be worth it. Wish I never kept track of how much I spent if I sell the car I would be lucky to get $5k

Man you could get that all made up at your local pirtek or Enzed just take it in and tell them what you want they can make it to size.

[Sprinter Freak]

I've pretty much burnt a hole right through my pocket and leg and pretty close to sacrificing my two nuts too lol. So far up to $16,881.71 and still gotta buy 4 tyres, adaptronic e420c, CAS and coil packs, Tseries disc brake diff with LSD, rego and engineering cert. I estimate that to be another $4500.
Even selling my pride and joy 2006 XR8 ute to give me some extra cash so this rolla better be worth it. Wish I never kept track of how much I spent if I sell the car I would be lucky to get $5k

Man you could get that all made up at your local pirtek or Enzed just take it in and tell them what you want they can make it to size.

wow, i guess i haven't really spent that much. i'm sure it will man, will handle like a go kart, but be 7X as fast. well its all in good fun man, when doing up cars you never get back what you spend making them better, just the way it goes.

yea i tried, but the guy said they didn't have them, ill give them a call tomorrow and see if i can order them in.

[Bluterus]

Some of them are douches and have no idea. I went to an enzed and they're like we don't have that. Spoke to an old guy there and he's like we don't have that but I can make it so waited 20mins and he made it up on the lathe and shit. I got all my braided turbo lines and fittings done there.

The corolla certainly is like a gokart when I jack it up the wheel arches dont extend away from the wheels at all. When I push it down too it springs up so quick.

[Sprinter Freak]

Some of them are douches and have no idea. I went to an enzed and they're like we don't have that. Spoke to an old guy there and he's like we don't have that but I can make it so waited 20mins and he made it up on the lathe and shit. I got all my braided turbo lines and fittings done there.

The corolla certainly is like a gokart when I jack it up the wheel arches dont extend away from the wheels at all. When I push it down too it springs up so quick.

yea i'm guessing so, the guy i talked to had no clue :gah: still have to go and get my bits from enzed. hahaha wow what a lazy fag! so jealous of your setup, really want a decent set up in mine, but funds arn't really allowing that at them moment :/

Anyway i've been a bit lazy in updating this but finally got round to taking some photos and doing a write up. done a fair few things on the car, stripped back and painted the:

tie rod ends
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the crossmember
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stone guard
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valve covers in VHT wrinkle (extra jdm points yo!)
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and the brake booster, brake line splitter, alternator bracket and the gearbox stays
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Also decided to get the engine checked out instead of just putting it in and hoping for the best. so i stripped down the engine, ready to be checked over by the engine rebuilders. since it was in that decided that i was going to paint it, so have scuffed all the paint with a wire brush bit. just need to go over it with wax and grease remover and paint it.
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since the engine was out and i had access to parts of the engine bay that i normally would have, thought i should paint it, so i've cleaned it and stripped most of the stuff out of it. Will just mask off the rest of the stuff.

cleaning the bay
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clean gearbox
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also am starting to flaring all the guards, otherwise they scrub.
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thats about it for now. still need to do a lot of stuff but that will come i the coming weeks. till next time

[Sprinter Freak]

also what colour does everyone think i should paint my engine bay, battleship grey or the white or another colour?

[s13 james]

gunmetal looks good mine in the bay has too much blue added thow lol

[lolwat]

metalic gun metal, if my engine comes out, and when i finish stripping interior thats what ill paint mine, looks cleaner (littereally) but with out being too dark

[Sprinter Freak]

gunmetal looks good mine in the bay has too much blue added thow lol

yea was thinking that of that as well, did you spray your bay yourself?


metalic gun metal, if my engine comes out, and when i finish stripping interior thats what ill paint mine, looks cleaner (littereally) but with out being too dark

yea it sounds good but i was kinda after a flat colour rather then a metallic, due to the car being flat white, think it would look a bit odd. but will check it out and see what it looks like. yea metallic gun metal grey ketos look pretty good.

[lolwat]

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what you think of that???

(guessing your not interested in coil's anymore?)

[Sprinter Freak]

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what you think of that???

(guessing your not interested in coil's anymore?)

hmm that does look good, will have to get some colour cards tomorrow and have a think.

yea had a think about it and think i should finish the engine conversion before i start buying suspension stuff.

[Bluterus]

Flat Grey I think will look tacky as shit will look like glossy primer don't think it will suit the white at all. I'd say either black or white. Black can be shit though cause it shows everything. That gun metal does look pretty awesome though.

But man all in all if you like Battleship grey and want it just do it man who cares what other people think its your car do what you want.

[Sprinter Freak]

Flat Grey I think will look tacky as shit will look like glossy primer don't think it will suit the white at all. I'd say either black or white. Black can be shit though cause it shows everything. That gun metal does look pretty awesome though.

But man all in all if you like Battleship grey and want it just do it man who cares what other people think its your car do what you want.

hmm you might be right, sort of leaning towards gun metal grey. yea that what i thought it would be like with the white, would show up all the dirt and grease.

got a fair amount of work done lately on the keto, mounted the steering rack on the crossmember with new prothane bushings, pulled the tank out and fitted the fuel pump and wires. completely stripped the bay of everything, ready to be cut back with steel wool. also painted engine mounts and crossmember bolts. still have to buy high fill and 2pac for the bay but that will happen some time this week. also does anyone have a 4age coil that there willing to sell? will get pics soon.

[s13 james]

my mate did mine plus the whole car in 2 pac gunmetal silver to answer earlier question,make sure you wear a decent mask when using 2 pac haha

[Sprinter Freak]

my mate did mine plus the whole car in 2 pac gunmetal silver to answer earlier question,make sure you wear a decent mask when using 2 pac haha

ok cheers dude, hahaha yea man ill make sure i wear one :) ok here are the pics:

crossmember bolts painted

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engine bay completely stripped

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engine mounts painted

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fuel pump set up

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engine painted

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so much crap in the garage :O

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Had a long think about what colour i wanted to paint the bay and thought i would go the paint i wanted from the start, battleship grey :P

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Also i had a look in the ports and the inlet manifold and there was heaps of black gunk in them :worried: not sure what to do, was thinking of just using a pipe cleaner and turps to clean it off, but i don't want it to fall into the engine. does anyone have any suggestions as to how to clean it out? has anyone had to clean this out before?

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cheers guys

[Low Style]

Battleship grey

haha. Awesome! keen to see what it turns out like.

[lolwat]

leave the ports until it running, then get a can of subaru upper engine cleaner

[Sprinter Freak]

haha. Awesome! keen to see what it turns out like.

cheers man, so am i :P


leave the ports until it running, then get a can of subaru upper engine cleaner

ah k thanks man :) just a quick question, do you know how well this works? and do you know of any alternatives?

[Ady70]

leave it black, its just from the pcv and no-one will ever see in there when it's together, you'll probably cause more problems than you'll solve by trying to get rid of it, unless you want to pull it apart and have it cleaned in a rotissery parts cleaner.

[Bluterus]

I wouldn't even worry about the cleaner either. Once you clean it off it will just come back anyways. If you're worried about the small bits just stick a vacuum on the ports to suck it out. Really leaving it dirty I think will make no difference to the power it produces if you haven't touched the bottom end.

Have you pulled the sump man? If not do it it will take max 1hr to take it off and the pickup tube give it a thorough clean and refit that way your nice clean new oil stays nice and clean.
If you do it when you pop the sump off the block theres two plates. Undo all the sump bolts then pull off the sump then you can undo the three bolts on the pickup tube and remove it then you can remove the baffle plate covering the crankshaft.

[Ady70]

Yeah, clean out the pick up then once it's running use about 3-400mls of diesel in with your first load of oil, run for 10-15 mins at idle or whatever and then drop the oil and refill again. Cheap "engine cleaner".

[Sprinter Freak]

leave it black, its just from the pcv and no-one will ever see in there when it's together, you'll probably cause more problems than you'll solve by trying to get rid of it, unless you want to pull it apart and have it cleaned in a rotissery parts cleaner.

ok, yea i wasn't really worried about anyone seeing it, was more thinking about all the muck getting into the engine :/ also what is pvc? yea don't really want to pull the engine apart.




I wouldn't even worry about the cleaner either. Once you clean it off it will just come back anyways. If you're worried about the small bits just stick a vacuum on the ports to suck it out. Really leaving it dirty I think will make no difference to the power it produces if you haven't touched the bottom end.

Have you pulled the sump man? If not do it it will take max 1hr to take it off and the pickup tube give it a thorough clean and refit that way your nice clean new oil stays nice and clean.
If you do it when you pop the sump off the block theres two plates. Undo all the sump bolts then pull off the sump then you can undo the three bolts on the pickup tube and remove it then you can remove the baffle plate covering the crankshaft.

ok cleaning it is useless. ah k i thought if it got crud in the engine, the petrol wouldn't burn as well because if all of the dirt. not yet but i will be doing that, ok ill make sure i do that cheers :)



Yeah, clean out the pick up then once it's running use about 3-400mls of diesel in with your first load of oil, run for 10-15 mins at idle or whatever and then drop the oil and refill again. Cheap "engine cleaner".

ok will do, thanks for the advice :)

[Sprinter Freak]

Similar to what the engine bay should look like:

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/71759.jpg

:D

[lolwat]

subaru upper engine cleaner works a fucking treat do it when your engine i shot though works heaps better, and too keep it clean/er, dont run your oil breather from you rocker cover into your mani run it too a catch can/bottle/ground

[Sprinter Freak]

subaru upper engine cleaner works a fucking treat do it when your engine i shot though works heaps better, and too keep it clean/er, dont run your oil breather from you rocker cover into your mani run it too a catch can/bottle/ground

okk, will definitely have get some then, can you only get it from subaru and can anyone get it or just subaru mechanics? :) yea i've heard that from a few people, will most likely get a catch can of some sort. cheers dude

[s13 james]

why shouldnt you run breather to mani?its how factory intended it to be isnt?

[Sprinter Freak]

im guessing because it puts oil fumes into the inlet manifold and therefore into the engine. which will eventually clog up your inlet ports.

[s13 james]

ahk then,im going to continue having it there im 98% sure nothing will happen haha, hows the car comming along?

[lolwat]

yea thats because its illegal (EPA rules what ever they are) to have oil fumes releasing into atmosphere, so it goes back into your mani and burnt, but fills your mani/ports etcetc with black shit, if you dont run your breather to your mani you will rarely have to use the cleaner

[s13 james]

thanks ,makes sense now

[Sprinter Freak]

ahk then,im going to continue having it there im 98% sure nothing will happen haha, hows the car comming along?

ok fair enough, yea its going pretty slowly, have a few assesments to before the end of semester so have to finish those before i start working on the car again. but after there done i will have a whole month of free time to work on the car :D


yea thats because its illegal (EPA rules what ever they are) to have oil fumes releasing into atmosphere, so it goes back into your mani and burnt, but fills your mani/ports etcetc with black shit, if you dont run your breather to your mani you will rarely have to use the cleaner

oh ok, well then i should probably get a catch can :S cheers for the heads up.

[lolwat]

ok fair enough, yea its going pretty slowly, have a few assesments to before the end of semester so have to finish those before i start working on the car again. but after there done i will have a whole month of free time to work on the car :D
let us know if you need a hand with anything, you got ecu and that???, and your doing things well too, painting everything, i now wish i did, makes it all look so much nicer and finished off

[keimeier]

looking great dude keep up the effort!!

[Sprinter Freak]

let us know if you need a hand with anything, you got ecu and that???, and your doing things well too, painting everything, i now wish i did, makes it all look so much nicer and finished off

yea will do man, cheers :) yea got ecu and loom. yea i thought, considering its out of the car might as well clean it up because i wont get a chance when its on the car.


looking great dude keep up the effort!!

Thanks dude :) you too!!

[lolwat]

if you can (you probs thought of it already) get that harmonic balancer off, and get the wire wheel onto it and get out all that rust and shit

how rusted is the area around your battery???, half of mines gone :(

[Sprinter Freak]

if you can (you probs thought of it already) get that harmonic balancer off, and get the wire wheel onto it and get out all that rust and shit

how rusted is the area around your battery???, half of mines gone :(

yea already gave it a good go, so all clean now. mine wasn't too bad, was a bit of bad surface rust but apart from that there was just a lot of battery acid all over the place. ouch dude thats rough :/

[Sprinter Freak]

ok so i thought i would revive this thread. haven't had much time to work on the car due to having end of term exams and assignments but now there all done, time to get cracking. didn't get many photos as i didn't think to take any at the time.

Didn't too get much done today. i started by pulling the sump off to check everything wasn't all gunked up, upon inspections it was clean as, except the last owner had drilled a new hole in the sump to run a tube and hadn't cleaned off the shards after drilling.

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178497.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178496.jpg




On further looking i noticed tiny shards of metal :( at first i thought it was my bearings but i'm hoping its some of the shards that the previous owner didn't clean up and not bits of my bearings.


feeling quite dis heartened i decided to leave the engine and work on getting the pedal box and stuffed heater core out.

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178521.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178522.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178523.jpg


old heater core

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178524.jpg

old pedal box

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178525.jpg

new pedal box half in

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178526.jpg

a quick question, how did everyone go about marking out, drilling and cutting the new holes and stuff for the pedal box?

and is there a way of checking the conditions of your bearings while the sump is off?

till next time guys.

[Bluterus]

Man I didn't have to cut anything to fit the pedal box in it bolts straight in. If you mean the holes for the clutch master that was easy.
http://www.rollaclub.com/faq/index.php?title=Upgrades:KE70_cable_to_hydraulic_c lutch
Thanks to this dude on Rollaclub. That bit above where the clutch line came through I just cut it off completely as I thought it looked tacky hacking a chunk out. Then you can see next to where the brake booster mounts that indent where the clutch master sits perfectly drill the holes and then use a dremel to elongate the holes if you're off a bit. You can get the pedalbox in without taking out the whole dash pad too its a bit of a bitch but I managed.

You see that so called tube the previous owner put in thats for a catch can. I wouldn't have a car without a catch can.
my 2006 xr8 when I rebuilt it at 80,000kms the intake manifold was full of black oily crud and so was all the throttlebody. If you know commodores they have this same issue with the throttlebodies always sticking from the gunk sucked in. My saab is a prime example the breather goes from the rocker cover to the intake tube between the filter and turbo and the turbo was sucking in oil.
http://www.billzilla.org/4agstock3.htm Read this about the oil system. The 4AGE has a tedency to dump oil in the manifold in hard left corners.

Put a catch can in run a line from the rocker cover to the can then from the can back to the manifold if you like fill it with steel wool and run a line to where the previous owner put that connection and you're done. Personally I skip the back to the sump bit cause you can run the risk of condensation in the catch can and it mixing into your oil. It takes a long time to fill one so I just dump it when I do my oil change if there it any in there.

As for bearings just see how much movement they have in them the rods will move from the front to the back of the crankshaft a real little but shouldn't have any movement from side to side i.e. engine mount to engine mount.

[R&D Mechanical]

im liking this build! reminds me of my current te72 build im doing :D

[lolwat]

this is like how i wish i did things, oowell looking good man

[Sprinter Freak]

Man I didn't have to cut anything to fit the pedal box in it bolts straight in. If you mean the holes for the clutch master that was easy.
http://www.rollaclub.com/faq/index.php?title=Upgrades:KE70_cable_to_hydraulic_c lutch
Thanks to this dude on Rollaclub. That bit above where the clutch line came through I just cut it off completely as I thought it looked tacky hacking a chunk out. Then you can see next to where the brake booster mounts that indent where the clutch master sits perfectly drill the holes and then use a dremel to elongate the holes if you're off a bit. You can get the pedalbox in without taking out the whole dash pad too its a bit of a bitch but I managed.

You see that so called tube the previous owner put in thats for a catch can. I wouldn't have a car without a catch can.
my 2006 xr8 when I rebuilt it at 80,000kms the intake manifold was full of black oily crud and so was all the throttlebody. If you know commodores they have this same issue with the throttlebodies always sticking from the gunk sucked in. My saab is a prime example the breather goes from the rocker cover to the intake tube between the filter and turbo and the turbo was sucking in oil.
http://www.billzilla.org/4agstock3.htm Read this about the oil system. The 4AGE has a tedency to dump oil in the manifold in hard left corners.

Put a catch can in run a line from the rocker cover to the can then from the can back to the manifold if you like fill it with steel wool and run a line to where the previous owner put that connection and you're done. Personally I skip the back to the sump bit cause you can run the risk of condensation in the catch can and it mixing into your oil. It takes a long time to fill one so I just dump it when I do my oil change if there it any in there.

As for bearings just see how much movement they have in them the rods will move from the front to the back of the crankshaft a real little but shouldn't have any movement from side to side i.e. engine mount to engine mount.

yea thats what i meant, yea i found that page as well. i did the same. pretty much just made a template and put that as centred as i could and drilled the holes and used a dremel to enlarge them. was a bit iffy about cutting into the body at first but got over that. yea i need to get one, another thing to add to the list. okk will check that, cheers dude. :)


im liking this build! reminds me of my current te72 build im doing :D

thanks man, haha i don't think its quite that extensive, but cheers anyway. :)


this is like how i wish i did things, oowell looking good man

ah theres always time to go back and re do it, just have to have the motivation to do it. way i saw it i wanted to do everything while the engine was out. thanks dude :)

[Sprinter Freak]

bit of an update, so i got a bit done today finally finished sanding back the bay for painting and treated a few bits of rust that i have been wanting to do for ages. (pics are from when i was half way through.)

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178681.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178682.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178683.jpg

also cut the holes for my clutch master cylinder, made up a template from the face of the master cylinder and used that as a guide.

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178684.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178685.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178686.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178687.jpg

also picked up a few things from pick and pay less, but aslo forgot to get a another level sender while i was there. :peek:

new heater core, that doesn't leak :D

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178688.jpg

new sun visors as mine are stained and s*&$

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178689.jpg

also picked up a commonhore air box, a new fan for the heater system, map sensor, and an oil cooler :)

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178690.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178691.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178692.jpg

and whats this.....




























































SEAM WELDING THE ENGINE BAY BABY!


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178693.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178694.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178695.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178696.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178697.jpg


the welds aren't finished, some of them need to fixed up and all of them need to be grind back and cleaned up. i gave them a quick squirt with primer so they wouldn't rust.

also gave my steering shaft and housing a quick lick of paint (don't have a pic of steering shaft)

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178698.jpg

still have to do heaps more spot welds but that will happen soon.

also what do you guys think, my battery tray is pretty munted and there is heaps of battery acid stains on it, do should i clean it up or just get rid of it and relocate the battery to the boot?

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178699.jpg

till next time guys.

[lolwat]

i cant wait to seam my POS, hahaha envy you XD

man you got heaps of battery tray half of mien is gone, all i would do is clean it up and have a good battery(want leak all the time) or if you really want it nice yes put it in the boot


tack weld EVERYTHING, if your going to bother doing it in your engine make sure you do all the joins and shit not jsut your towers

goodshit man :)

[Sprinter Freak]

i cant wait to seam my POS, hahaha envy you XD

man you got heaps of battery tray half of mien is gone, all i would do is clean it up and have a good battery(want leak all the time) or if you really want it nice yes put it in the boot


tack weld EVERYTHING, if your going to bother doing it in your engine make sure you do all the joins and shit not jsut your towers

goodshit man :)

haha thanks man, its good fun, just be careful not to blow a hole in the metal, happened to me once :/ yea i do but it was just such an eye sore, so i got rid of it and am going to mount it in the boot.

yea thats the aim, took all the sealer off the joins so it makes a nice weld. just have to finish it off on the weekend.

thanks man. hows your keto going? got it back from the auto electricians yet?

[Sprinter Freak]

Some inspiration i have been looking to for this build. http://www.driftworks.com/forum/drift-car-projects-builds/29488-my-ke70-road-4age-goodness-d-11.html

[lolwat]

yea been driving it for a couple of weeks, detinated something in my diff oon sunday arvo (like 2 hours from home) still havent pulled diff apart to have a look

[lolwat]

sorry for double post

seeing as you, probs read it, you know the specs on that 4 age, pretty intense (i honestly dont want to rear 15+ pages to find out XD)

[Sprinter Freak]

yea been driving it for a couple of weeks, detinated something in my diff oon sunday arvo (like 2 hours from home) still havent pulled diff apart to have a look


sorry for double post

seeing as you, probs read it, you know the specs on that 4 age, pretty intense (i honestly dont want to rear 15+ pages to find out XD)


ok good to hear man, haha too much dori action :) should get a 2 way limited slip, would handle the abuse better and make sliding easier.

wait you mean mine or yours? :S

[Sprinter Freak]

ok so i got a bit of work done today with the spare time i had before work. decided that the battery box had to go because it was just too far gone to be fixed so i drilled out the spot weld and removed it.

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178816.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178817.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178818.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178819.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178820.jpg

also took out the this mount as i will not be needing the thing that attaches to it(don't know the name)


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178821.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178822.jpg

(i did grind it back just didn't get a pic)

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178823.jpg

and finally took most of the old sealer off my sump

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178824.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178825.jpg

lastly what type of gasket sealer should i be using? should i get some genuine toyota gasket sealer? or will this stuff do?


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178826.jpg

[lolwat]

go to toyota and ask for 3 bond, that shit will never leak AND even if you undid your sump it still wouldnt leak, its awesome for sumps and shit
or

i would normally use loctite high temp red silicon/silastic/gasket marker

[Sprinter Freak]

go to toyota and ask for 3 bond, that shit will never leak AND even if you undid your sump it still wouldnt leak, its awesome for sumps and shit

or i would normally use loctite high temp red silicon/silastic/gasket marker

okk sweet thanks man, might go with loctite just cause i'm guessing it will be easier to get and cheaper. haha sounds like the gasket that was on there from the previous owner. After taking all the bolts and nuts off, i still had to smash a screw driver in the gap with a hammer. And even then i bent the screw driver when i tried to pry it open :/

[Sprinter Freak]

so i got a bit done on the car today, was hoping to get more done but, apart from seam welding the bay there isn't much else to do. And because i'm not too good at welding yet, i left the welding to may mate ollie. after having a hard think about how to weld the engine bay i decided that the arc welder wasn't going to give me the finish that i wanted so gonna get a mig welder tomorrow. will hopefully speed up the welding process.

and here are some pictures, because.........everyone love pictures.


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178907.jpg


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178908.jpg




lol

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178909.jpg



http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178910.jpg


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178911.jpg


as you can see the arc welder isn't the cleanest way of welding... which isn't what i'm after

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178912.jpg


also painted and cleaned a few things.

sump was dented and scratched so i fixed that.


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178913.jpg


also cleaned the last of the sealer off.

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178914.jpg


took off the sharp edges off the holes the previous owner drilled in the sump.


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178915.jpg


cleaned back some rust and treated it


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178916.jpg

and painted my wipers.

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178917.jpg


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178918.jpg

[Sprinter Freak]

ok so i thought i would update this thread, firstly i found out my 4age had no compression :( so i have decided to build it rather then refresh. i have a thread about it in the general topics forum, so if you could check it out that would be great! :) haven't really had much time to work on the car lately, but got a few hours in today.

only thing i really did was redo all of the welds and finish the stitch welding on the left side of the engine bay.

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/179485.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/179486.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/179487.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/179488.jpg

i think it looks a lot better then this:

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178912.jpg

anyway let us know what you guys think, cheers guys.

[lolwat]

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/179485.jpg

SO FUCKING JELLY (homo voice)

what rad you plan on running??

[Sprinter Freak]

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/179485.jpg

SO FUCKING JELLY (homo voice)

what rad you plan on running??


hahahaha lol :) not sure atm, was going to run a standard sprinter one, but am thinking of looking into getting a koyo aluminium rad :D

[pen15]

hey i read through the build keep up the good work btw the welds you are pumping are very shit sorry i just had to say get a decent gas mig and it will look a million times better

[Sprinter Freak]

hey i read through the build keep up the good work btw the welds you are pumping are very shit sorry i just had to say get a decent gas mig and it will look a million times better

thanks dude, and if you are referring to this:

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/178912.jpg

i grinded them back cause i knew they were shit. and if you are talking about the other ones, its my first go at welding and i'm using a gas less mig so its pretty crap, if i had the option to use a gas mig then i would, just using whats available. cant afford to spend $600+ on a good gas mig and keep up with the bottle hire.

[lolwat]

do the best you can with what you can, as long as you can see its penitrating (oooooo), jsut tidy them up, there's a certain wheel for your angle grinder you can get thats layers of (kinda like sand paper) and it smooths off welds with out taking to much off really well

[Sprinter Freak]

do the best you can with what you can, as long as you can see its penitrating (oooooo), jsut tidy them up, there's a certain wheel for your angle grinder you can get thats layers of (kinda like sand paper) and it smooths off welds with out taking to much off really well


yea thats what i'm trying to do. yea man its definitely penetrating lol :) hmmm will definitely look into this grinder wheel, would definitely clean things up. wouldn't happen to know what its called?

[R&D Mechanical]

Looking good, yeah penetration is key then just grind it to 'look' good

[lolwat]

wouldn't happen to know what its called?
http://www.boostedimports.com/images/Polish/DSCN3650.jpg

BAM!, if they looks bad grind them a bit first then go over them with that wheel thingo, and if you get nice welds jsut smash them with teh wheel thingo

[Jesseb369]

Flapper wheel :)

[lolwat]

Get ya flap on!

[Sprinter Freak]

Looking good, yeah penetration is key then just grind it to 'look' good

thanks man :) ye thats what i did today, gave them a good go with a flap disk to smooth them out.


http://www.boostedimports.com/images/Polish/DSCN3650.jpg

BAM!, if they looks bad grind them a bit first then go over them with that wheel thingo, and if you get nice welds jsut smash them with teh wheel thingo

hahaha :) yea went over them today, looks a lot better now.


Flapper wheel :)

cheers dude.


Get ya flap on!


haha already did :P

[lolwat]

good shit
pics???
what welder you using??? curious

[Sprinter Freak]

good shit
pics???
what welder you using??? curious


yea will get pics tomorrow. i'm using my mates one, i think the welder is a rossi :S was a cheapie but it seems to do the job.

[Sprinter Freak]

yea so its been a while. been busy with tafe and work. but have been getting a little work done.

Finished the welding then hit all the exposed metal with rust kill primer to stop it from rusting. Am now onto the job of bogging all the seams in the engine bay. Got the left hand side 75% done but ran out of bog! :peek: so will get more tomorrow, any thats it for now.

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/196023.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/196025.jpg

[Sprinter Freak]

So i got a bit done on the car today. mostly bogging and sanding, only about half way done. still have a fair amount of work to do, but will get it done soon enough. let us know what you think.

still need to fill a few dips and hollows.
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/199459.jpg


left side
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/199461.jpg

right side
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/199463.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/199465.jpg


bog dust! :P
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/199467.jpg

[lolwat]

not going to like what im about to say, but all that bog work and smoothing in 12 or so months will start falling off/out

[70rolla]

It's gunna crack up like a mother fucker when you start driving the car hard ...other wise it's looking sweet what colour you painting the bay.

[Jacobxxx]

Stiff suspension will fuck it very quickly.

[Sprinter Freak]

not going to like what im about to say, but all that bog work and smoothing in 12 or so months will start falling off/out


It's gunna crack up like a mother fucker when you start driving the car hard ...other wise it's looking sweet what colour you painting the bay.


Stiff suspension will fuck it very quickly.

yea i had a feeling it might, hopefully because i welded most of the bay it should stay intact, but if it does, meh :right:im painting it battleship grey, i think there is a pic of a few pages earlier of what the colour will look like.

[sundee]

Bog.... Hmm that bog is like the bog that comes out of your ass, it's not designed to stay in.
I learnt my lesson when I was 17, it eventually cracks and comes to pieces

[jmorley]

Car is coming along mate

[Sprinter Freak]

Bog.... Hmm that bog is like the bog that comes out of your ass, it's not designed to stay in.
I learnt my lesson when I was 17, it eventually cracks and comes to pieces

yea its just standard bog. I could have used fibregalss stuff, but dont know how much difference it would have made, plus its a bitch to work with. In hind sight i probabaly shouldnt have welded the bay or should have gotten someone who can weld better to do it.

But my initial aim of this project was to do as much of the work as i could myself, so i thought i would give it a go. Guess the best thing to take from this is that i have learnt from my mistakes


Car is coming along mate

cheers mate :) caint wait to get it finished!

[haveaparty]

bog shouldnt just fall out if the area has been preped proper before the bog was placed. and i little tip with bog, the neater and cleaner u put it in, makes a whole lot difference wen sanding it out to make it smooth.

a small tip from ur resident panel beater :))

[Sprinter Freak]

bog shouldnt just fall out if the area has been preped proper before the bog was placed. and i little tip with bog, the neater and cleaner u put it in, makes a whole lot difference wen sanding it out to make it smooth.

a small tip from ur resident panel beater :))

yea i'm pretty sure i took the proper steps to prep the surface. I hit the bare metal with rust kill primer, rubbed the primer back with steel wool, then hit all the surfaces with wax and grease remover before bogging.

Ah k cheers for the advice :D yea have been finding myself putting a little too much bog and having to sand it back heaps :right: will make sure i go easy with it from now on :)

[lolwat]

yea have been finding myself putting a little too much bog and having to sand it back heaps :right: will make sure i go easy with it from now on :)
i did this, was jsut liek YEA SLAP ON THERE, then sanding for AGES, then the angle grinder came out

[haveaparty]

best way to put bog in. sand the area with 80 grid paper back to bare metal. always sand wider then neccesary so to make sure bog doesnt go on the paint ( it wont stick proper unless uve got special bog) Rust kill if u wish to but not sure how the bog will react with it. mix the bog up according to directions. apply the bog directly to the bare metal in thin smooth layers. pulling it in in the direction ur goin to sand it. be sure to mix the bog so the colour is uniform throughout. if its got a marbel affect keep mixing being sure to push the air bubbles out as u do so. if its goin hard while ur still mixing it or while ur putting it in add less hardner the next time, and same goes for if it wont go hard at all, add more hardner, general rule is a golf ball to a pea, golf ball of bog to a pea of hardner.

once the bog has set sand it back with 80 grid to get the jelly off the top (the shiney bit). sand with the 80 grid until its pretty much where u want it, then sand with 180 grid and 320 to get rid off all the fine scratches.

prime the area after ur happy with everything, 2 0r 3 coats should do

another good tip. always fill the entire area u want to bog. for example: say u swipe the bog into an area, u sand it out and u want to put a bit more bog in a smaller part of the area cause its still a bit low or wat ever reason, DONT just put bog in that area, fill the whole area again but only put a small film over the parts ur already happy with, other wise u will be sanding the new area and ull be rubbing the bog out of the good area as u do so.

[lolwat]

not that this is my thread, but thank you kind sir :), i shall do as you said when i do a few more "speed hole" repairs

[Sprinter Freak]

best way to put bog in. sand the area with 80 grid paper back to bare metal. always sand wider then neccesary so to make sure bog doesnt go on the paint ( it wont stick proper unless uve got special bog) Rust kill if u wish to but not sure how the bog will react with it. mix the bog up according to directions. apply the bog directly to the bare metal in thin smooth layers. pulling it in in the direction ur goin to sand it. be sure to mix the bog so the colour is uniform throughout. if its got a marbel affect keep mixing being sure to push the air bubbles out as u do so. if its goin hard while ur still mixing it or while ur putting it in add less hardner the next time, and same goes for if it wont go hard at all, add more hardner, general rule is a golf ball to a pea, golf ball of bog to a pea of hardner.

once the bog has set sand it back with 80 grid to get the jelly off the top (the shiney bit). sand with the 80 grid until its pretty much where u want it, then sand with 180 grid and 320 to get rid off all the fine scratches.

prime the area after ur happy with everything, 2 0r 3 coats should do

another good tip. always fill the entire area u want to bog. for example: say u swipe the bog into an area, u sand it out and u want to put a bit more bog in a smaller part of the area cause its still a bit low or wat ever reason, DONT just put bog in that area, fill the whole area again but only put a small film over the parts ur already happy with, other wise u will be sanding the new area and ull be rubbing the bog out of the good area as u do so.


not that this is my thread, but thank you kind sir :), i shall do as you said when i do a few more "speed hole" repairs

ok cheers for that will come in handy :) wait i didn't know you needed to go right back to metal with bog :S, wouldn't it rust under the bog?


ok so i haven't been able to work on the car lately due to stuff getting in the way. so i thought id let you guys know all the stuff i've been getting for the rebuild.

so far i've got:

ACL bearings for the whole engine

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/209372.jpg


Arp rod bolts

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/209374.jpg

arp flywheel bolts (they were cheap)

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/209376.jpg

TRD 0.8mm head gasket (again it was cheap)

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/209378.jpg

AEM adjustable cam gears

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/209380.jpg

Carbon fibre spark plug/cam gear covers :D

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/209382.jpg





Genuine brand new toyota head bolts. don't have pic of them.





gates timing belt/tensioner/cam seals/ front and rear main seals

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/209384.jpg




still need to get a water pump and piston rings then off to get it rebuilt :)

was contemplating geting a new oil pump but thought i could just get the engine builder to recondition it. btw i already have a full gasket kit.

if theres anything i have missed let us know.

[Bluterus]

Bog can stick over paint and rustkill and just any old bog will do. Its all about how you prep it, mix the bog and how you lay it on. You gotta spread it out and go waayy past what your actually bogging and rub it smooth I'll do all spots minimum 3 times bog rub bog rub bog rub.

I've got a real good bog at work I wish I found years ago that is amazing and so easy to rub.

As people have said in that location will most certainly crack.

Heres a project ute I did god 2004 I think sold it in 2008 and saw it about 6 months ago and the thing still hasn't cracked.

This was before it was finished and just used K&H Bog. Think I bogged and sanded this like 8 times.
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/1/0/8/0/209444.jpg

[haveaparty]

u dont hav to go all the way back to bare metal but ur better off doing so to ensure it will stick. and some bogs wont stick to paint. i spose its different up here in qld to where old mate is from in vic. we hav bogs that will cope with the humidity for during summer and hotter months and different bogs for winter that sets off a little faster. then theres fine filler bog, which will stick to paint as long as its been sanded, always good to use this stuff to fill pin holes and small repairs, its alot softer then the regular bog so doesnt need to be sanded as hard to get it down. and it shouldnt rust under the bog if all the rust has been cut out and plates welded in. and u can fill an area in one go, if its that low that u need to load it up three times then u should panel beat the panel more instead of just filling it back to shape.

[Sprinter Freak]

grrr stupid c*%ts screwed up with the cam gears, the don't have any aem ones left, so they are sending me a set of fidanza ones instead.

[Sprinter Freak]

Bog can stick over paint and rustkill and just any old bog will do. Its all about how you prep it, mix the bog and how you lay it on. You gotta spread it out and go waayy past what your actually bogging and rub it smooth I'll do all spots minimum 3 times bog rub bog rub bog rub.

I've got a real good bog at work I wish I found years ago that is amazing and so easy to rub.

As people have said in that location will most certainly crack.

Heres a project ute I did god 2004 I think sold it in 2008 and saw it about 6 months ago and the thing still hasn't cracked.

This was before it was finished and just used K&H Bog. Think I bogged and sanded this like 8 times.
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/1/0/8/0/209444.jpg


okk, thanks for the tips :) what brand of bog is this you speak of, would be keen on getting some if its really easy to rub back.


u dont hav to go all the way back to bare metal but ur better off doing so to ensure it will stick. and some bogs wont stick to paint. i spose its different up here in qld to where old mate is from in vic. we hav bogs that will cope with the humidity for during summer and hotter months and different bogs for winter that sets off a little faster. then theres fine filler bog, which will stick to paint as long as its been sanded, always good to use this stuff to fill pin holes and small repairs, its alot softer then the regular bog so doesnt need to be sanded as hard to get it down. and it shouldnt rust under the bog if all the rust has been cut out and plates welded in. and u can fill an area in one go, if its that low that u need to load it up three times then u should panel beat the panel more instead of just filling it back to shape.

ah k, wow didn't know there was so much to bog:S thought there was only a couple of different types. i've got a few shallow dips and a some pin holes, should i get some fine filler bog or should normal stuff be fine? yea thats true, not a fan of bogging unnecessarily, would rather fix the imperfections then cover it up.

[haveaparty]

Fine fill bog is handy to hav. But isn't super necessary to hav. U can fill the slight scratches and pin holes with the primer. Just put a few more coats of primer down. But it is good for filling slight dints without goin back to bare metal. And for a home job repair and someone whos never done it before, bog from ur local auto store will be fine. Nuther thing I dont think has been mentioned. Use a sanding board wen sanding. Flat and not flexible. The bigger the area the longer u want. U can get boards from hardware stores or auto shops. And use 80grid first to get the main shape or u will be sanding for days and won't be as good. the rough paper cuts the top off and gets it level. If u had a small sanding block it would follow the highs and lows where long will go over the top cutting it back.

[70rolla]

How's this thing going needa pick up the pace gee I'm on your tailCome to Wakefield matsuri

[Sprinter Freak]

Fine fill bog is handy to hav. But isn't super necessary to hav. U can fill the slight scratches and pin holes with the primer. Just put a few more coats of primer down. But it is good for filling slight dints without goin back to bare metal. And for a home job repair and someone whos never done it before, bog from ur local auto store will be fine. Nuther thing I dont think has been mentioned. Use a sanding board wen sanding. Flat and not flexible. The bigger the area the longer u want. U can get boards from hardware stores or auto shops. And use 80grid first to get the main shape or u will be sanding for days and won't be as good. the rough paper cuts the top off and gets it level. If u had a small sanding block it would follow the highs and lows where long will go over the top cutting it back.

okk, yea have been using regular bog to fill on l the little dints and pin holes. with the sanding board, the places that i have been working on are so curvy i haven't really had a chance to use the one i have much, but have been using it where possible. yea i've been using 80 grit to shape it, am now onto using 120 grit to start to take out the scratches.


How's this thing going needa pick up the pace gee I'm on your tailCome to Wakefield matsuri

work on it has been a little slow lately due to end of term tafe assessments:( but have holidays in a week so will get heaps done then. lol i know hey, you work fast :/ whens Wakefield matsuri?
have been getting a bit done here and there, finally primed one side of the bay. still needs a few little bits filled in but nearly there.

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/230454.jpg


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/230456.jpg



also got most of my parts, still waiting on flywheel bolts and cam gears.

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/230458.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/230460.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/230462.jpg







oh and am going to get piston rings and a water pump on friday. so work on the engine should start soon.

[70rolla]

Haha I like to make it Happen yer I'm the same with Tafe..26th of November I should have myn ready got Alot of work to do but ..you should enter and aim for it

[Sprinter Freak]

Haha I like to make it. Happen yer I'm the same with Tafe. 26th of November I should have myn ready got Alot of work to do but ..you should enter and aim for it

thanks dude, am trying to :) yea thats sounds like it should be achievable, will aim to enter. what you got left to do on your keto?

[70rolla]

a whole conversion all interior back in wiring everything rebuild motor etc etc

[Sprinter Freak]

a whole conversion all interior back in wiring everything rebuild motor etc etc

dam, sounds like a lot of work, best of luck dude.

[70rolla]

Haha should be right man motor got disassembled on Sunday and the blocks already been acid bathed diamond hone with a new pattern in the bores cranks been in the bath and re linished oil pumps been stripped and rebuilt ..shits happening probs buy alloy rad next week

[Sprinter Freak]

ok so i thought i would update this, i finally painted the engine bay! :D it still needs a wet sand to get rid of the orange peel but i'm pretty happy with the result. :) let us know what you guys think.

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/246871.jpg


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/246872.jpg


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/246873.jpg

[lolwat]

yewwww

also, have you thought of painting your brake master, brake lines (hardlines in engine bay) , looks really good, really finishes nice engine bays off (with out spending hours hiding and making new lines)

[Sprinter Freak]

yewwww

also, have you thought of painting your brake master, brake lines (hardlines in engine bay) , looks really good, really finishes nice engine bays off (with out spending hours hiding and making new lines)

yea already painted my brake master cylinder, and am going to polish up the brake lines :) cheers man

[Seventy]

Engine bay looks awesome, hope the bog doesnt crack and ruin it

[lolwat]

good stuff man :)

[Sprinter Freak]

Engine bay looks awesome, hope the bog doesnt crack and ruin it

cheers man :) yea hopefully it doesn't, but have a feeling it might, see how we go.


good stuff man :)

thanks man :p

[Sprinter Freak]

ok so got some work done on the car today. put the pedal box and steering shaft in, and attatched the brake booster and clutch mastercylinder. spent most of my time screwing around trying to make the master cylinder fit properly.... :right:

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/248808.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/248809.jpg


also painted all the hard lines in the bay matte black.

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/248810.jpg

also clean and painted the wiper motor as well.

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/248811.jpg







oh and a quick question for you guys, does anyone know the size and pitch of the nut that goes onto this stud below the clutch master cylinder.

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/248812.jpg


and the size of the bolt that goes through the clutch pedal to attach it to that master cylinder.

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/248813.jpg

[lolwat]

it isnt a bolt for the cltuch pedal its a pin, and its a 12 or 14 metric fine bolt, common as, you probs will have 20000 of them in your bolts box from stripping everything

[Sprinter Freak]

it isnt a bolt for the cltuch pedal its a pin, and its a 12 or 14 metric fine bolt, common as, you probs will have 20000 of them in your bolts box from stripping everything

yea i know its supposed to be a pin but i don't have the pin thats supposed to go in there, so am going to use a bolt instead. ok cheers man ill have a look :)

[Sprinter Freak]

ok so got most of the front end in today, only thing left to put in are the struts. also rebushed all the suspension components with urethane replacements. Getting out the lower control arm bushes was a bitch to start with, but after some help from a blow torch they came out pretty easy :)

hoping to have it rolling by the end of tomorrow :D anyways here are pics.

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/249608.jpg


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/249609.jpg

urethane bushy goodness :)

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/249610.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/249611.jpg

[haveaparty]

looking good man, and most jap cars hav the same pitch and thread for the same size nut and bolt, for example, all 10mm nut and bolts hav the same pitch and thread, so u could get a bolt that holds ur guard on and it will fit to hold ur dash in, but on saying that always try and put the bolt in by hand all the way before u get a spanner/ socket onto it, getting snapped bolts out sucks lol

[Sprinter Freak]

looking good man, and most jap cars hav the same pitch and thread for the same size nut and bolt, for example, all 10mm nut and bolts hav the same pitch and thread, so u could get a bolt that holds ur guard on and it will fit to hold ur dash in, but on saying that always try and put the bolt in by hand all the way before u get a spanner/ socket onto it, getting snapped bolts out sucks lol

thanks dude :) ah k thanks for the info man, will be good to know for re bolting everything up. haha yea they sure do man, had to pull a few out on this one :gah:

[Sprinter Freak]

update, got the front struts, brake lines, panels, bumper and most of the wiring back in, still have a few little things to do like put in the brake booster vacuum line etc. next thing to do it get the new diff ready and take the old one out. still have a fair amount of work to do but its finally coming together :D

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/249942.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/249943.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/249944.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/249945.jpg

[Sprinter Freak]

ok so haven't really got too much done on the car really, a lot of stuffing around trying to get things to work with the new diff.
finally replaced every single bushing. had to use a socket extension piece to get the bushes out, it didnt survive...

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/253945.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/253946.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/253947.jpg



also put the newly machined rear disks on. picked up a set of rear project mu d1 pads (will get pics tomorrow). Put in my surge tank and fuel pump as well.


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/253948.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/253949.jpg





and...


I PICKED UP MY REBUILT ENGINE! :))

really happy with the job, really well done for a good price. props to pen15 for the great work :D


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/253950.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/253951.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/253952.jpg


anyways am hoping to finish off my fuel lines tomorrow, attach my tail shaft and start to put the engine in.

[pen15]

i hope if runs as good as Tyler's motor we went to Picton and Woolongong for a drive got home around 2am and the car didn't miss a beat i expect nothing less from your motor either hope you enjoy

cheers
mat

p.s chuck some tape over the intake and exhaust ports if its not going to be bagged up if dust and or dirt and sand get in there its gonna kill the motor

[Sprinter Freak]

i hope if runs as good as Tyler's motor we went to Picton and Woolongong for a drive got home around 2am and the car didn't miss a beat i expect nothing less from your motor either hope you enjoy

cheers
mat

p.s chuck some tape over the intake and exhaust ports if its not going to be bagged up if dust and or dirt and sand get in there its gonna kill the motor


yea im sure it will man, fark sounds alright man mine should be sweet then :) yea i only had the bag off to take the photo's, put the bag back on it again after i had taken the photos.

cheers everything dude

ryan

[70rolla]

Lets race !!!!!

[kyle unwin]

How is this going?

[Sprinter Freak]

Lets race !!!!!

hahaha soon dude ;) how yours treating you? still running sweet?

btw you end up going to all japan day?


How is this going?

yea its going good, just finishing off my fuel lines today then start on the motor :D

[lolwat]

stock rebiuld???

[70rolla]

stock rebiuld???
yerr

[lolwat]

LIMITER BASH!
good stuff atleast you got something solid

[Sprinter Freak]

stock rebiuld???


LIMITER BASH!
good stuff atleast you got something solid

yea man, just a freshen up with ACL bearings and some ARP bolts.

haha yes this thing will be living near/on limiter a lot of the time :) cant wait!


Anyways i got some work done on the car today, finished off my fuel lines and put the fuel tank back in.

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/255334.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/255335.jpg

Then set about cleaning up the stuff to go onto the engine and installing them all, Also mounted my flywheel/clutch and gearbox.

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/255336.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/255337.jpg

Only things left to do are to work out what to do about my short handbrake cables, then put the engine in! :D cant wait!

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/255338.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/255339.jpg

[70rolla]

What filter is that I need One before my Pump?

[Sprinter Freak]

What filter is that I need One before my Pump?

Its just a low pressure carby filter, i don't know if you need it. I just put one in to be safe, so no shit gets into my surge tank.

Reason i used a carby filter not a high pressure one is because before my surge tank its only a low pressure setup. will be putting a high pressure one in just before the fuel rail.

[70rolla]

Narh I need one I fried my fuel pump because of it

[Sprinter Freak]

Narh I need one I fried my fuel pump because of it


fark that sucks dude, did it get dirt in it? when did that happen?

[Sprinter Freak]

Ok so big update! engine is finally in! :DD got some of the boys round and did it last friday arvo, only took 30mins.

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/257132.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/257133.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/257134.jpg

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http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/257136.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/257137.jpg

since then i have:

-mounted the rad and fitted the thermo fan
-ran my water hoses
-run my fuel hoses
-painted my charcoal canister and bonnet hinges
-put the starter motor in

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/257138.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/257139.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/257140.jpg

still waiting on a few parts so thats holding things up.

got a new brake master cylinder on the weekend, but need to get the old one and the brake lines from the brake place before i can bleed the brakes and put my intake manifold on.

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/257141.jpg

still have a bit of work to do but getting closer! :D also picked a pair of 16X7 skid rims off a mate for free! will get pics off tomorrow.

[declan]

this is such a nice build. loving the attention to detail man, good work.

[Sprinter Freak]

this is such a nice build. loving the attention to detail man, good work.

cheers man :) yea i tried to stray away from the normal 4age swap. thought should make the most of the the engine bay while the engine was out.

[-ollie-]

Yeah, good work on the engine bay... what colour is that, and how did you spray it/ what with?

[Sprinter Freak]

Yeah, good work on the engine bay... what colour is that, and how did you spray it/ what with?

thanks man, was a bit of effort but happy with it. The colour was supposed to be battleship grey, but it came out darker then i expected, its 2 pac paint.I have the paint code if you want it? i sprayed it with gravity fed guns on some elcheapo compressor . Pretty much just masked everything up and did it at home, but if i was going to do it again i wouldn't go 2 pac agin, to hard.

[Sprinter Freak]

ok so got a bit done today, put 99% of the interior back in and most of the engine components on. The car is nearly ready to get its exhaust. just waiting on a handbrake splitter to be sent to me then i can hook up the drive shaft and get it moving. Also my cusco catch can came today so chucked that on and ran the lines.


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/258442.jpg


(only got a photo half way through, the whole dash is in now)




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main things i need to do before it goes to the exhaust shop are:



Bleed the brakes
hook up the drive shaft and handbrake cables
mount the battery box in the boot
bleed the clutch
also can anyone recommend an exhaust shop thats good in sydney? am going to check out west side mufflers and castle hill exhaust so far.

[s13 james]

looking good,congrats,theres a couple decent ones round here but a massive trek for you,goodluck

[Sprinter Freak]

looking good,congrats,theres a couple decent ones round here but a massive trek for you,goodluck

thanks man, do you know the names of the places? i wouldn't mind having to trek it a bit to get a decent exhaust for a good price.

[Sprinter Freak]

ok so promised some shots of the finished interior, here they are :)


havent put the shifter surround on just yet, because not sure if ill be needing to lower the box to fit the tail shaft.


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/258981.jpg


also scored a tacho dash off a mate for cheap.


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/258982.jpg


hoping to finish off all the things left to do on friday, then its off to get an exhaust next week :D

[s13 james]

sick as,ive always gone to kirrawee mufflers,(just near just jap)you should call to book in a time,ive had 3 ke70's,s13 and my 86 done there
all good work and got back the next day,just take a picture of what you want the tail pipe or tip to look like and make sure they fully
understand as my s13 tip looked homo till i fixed it,was my fault thow for not being clear.

[Sprinter Freak]

sick as,ive always gone to kirrawee mufflers,(just near just jap)you should call to book in a time,ive had 3 ke70's,s13 and my 86 done there
all good work and got back the next day,just take a picture of what you want the tail pipe or tip to look like and make sure they fully
understand as my s13 tip looked homo till i fixed it,was my fault thow for not being clear.

yea have heard of them as well, will defs check them out. haha lol if i go to them will make sure i take them a photo of what i want. how much did they charrge you for the ke70's? and what did you get done?

[Sprinter Freak]

got some work done on the car today. got the hand brake working, ended up using an sv11 camry handbrake splitter, works a treat! :) also bled the clutch and mounted my battery box in the boot. only things left to do are bleed the brakes and sort out my drive shaft problem(see below)

new shifter also rocked up today, was searching around on ebay for bubble shifters and found this one

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/260084.jpg

Went to put my drive shaft in and hit a problem. the centre drive shaft mount on the shaft i've got isn't wide enough and doesn't line up with the bolt holes(refer to picture for better explanation)



http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/260085.jpg

here is a ke70 tail shaft, the bracket needs to be this wide

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/260086.jpg



do you guys know why its like this? do i have the wrong front section? i'm thinking if just making a thick bracket to fix this but am scared it could be hella dodgy, what do you guys think?

[stahlz_ae86]

I think I encountered this problem in my pano from memory. I filed the holes out wider and used heavy duty washers I think.

[stahlz_ae86]

Now on second thoughts I probs did the wrong thing back then. If you put spacers above the centre bearing those centres are probably correct once the part is lower as the bolts being on their angle will point inwards.

[Sprinter Freak]

I think I encountered this problem in my pano from memory. I filed the holes out wider and used heavy duty washers I think.


Now on second thoughts I probs did the wrong thing back then. If you put spacers above the centre bearing those centres are probably correct once the part is lower as the bolts being on their angle will point inwards.

lol did that work for you though? and did you have any problems? i'm thinking of either cutting off the end of the bracket to make it like an open c spanner and just using large washers or making small brackets, not sure which one i will do, will let you guys know how it goes.

[stahlz_ae86]

I don't have any problems with that but don't do it, just use washers above the centre bearing holes to space it down.

Your bolts go in on this angle from memory... \ /

[Sprinter Freak]

I don't have any problems with that but don't do it, just use washers above the centre bearing holes to space it down.

Your bolts go in on this angle from memory... \ /

haha lol don't worry i wont, yea the bolts go in on a slight angle. i got some some washers to space it down a bit.

[Golberg]

They come from factory with a thick washer under each side, so that'll dot it.

[Jacobxxx]

Be gentle with flower knob, they like snapping on first to second.

[Sprinter Freak]

They come from factory with a thick washer under each side, so that'll dot it.

ok awesome :) thanks for the info


Be gentle with flower knob, they like snapping on first to second.

haha yea so i've heard, i'm not the type so smash it into gear, but ill make sure i'm more careful.

[Sprinter Freak]

ok so a fiar bit has happened since i last updated this, first up i bout/received a few things.


extra lock spacer
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/262779.jpg


i tried to install this today but didnt have a shifter big enuough to fit the inner tie rod :rolleyes:


also got my self a cusco drift button


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/262780.jpg


also finally got my exhaust done, ended up going 2.25 inch with a resonator, high flow cat and detachable muffler/drift pipes.


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/262781.jpg


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http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/262786.jpg


the quiet daily muffler


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/262787.jpg


so only things left now are to get it wire up, get a wheel alignment then rego :P

[s13 james]

hows this bad boy goin?be ready for the 22nd at ec?

[Sprinter Freak]

hows this bad boy goin?be ready for the 22nd at ec?
yea going good man, should be getting wired up some time this week or next week :) so yea it should be.

[Sprinter Freak]

decided to get a little bit of work done on the car today. put the bonnet on and gave it a wash, also put the dipstick back on and filled it with oil.


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after giving it a wash i can see the body needs a fair bit of work and touching up, that and suspension will be next on the cards. still need to flare the other rear guard as well.


Also booked the car in to get it wired up on monday next week, so should have it running by mid next week, cant wait!! :DD

[s13 james]

very cool,must be itchin to drive haha

[Sprinter Freak]

very cool,must be itchin to drive haha

cheers dude :) yea definitely!!! have been waiting 5 months to.

[Sprinter Freak]

ok so haven't really done anything on the car, just installed my Cusco drift button. also bought a set of vacuum plug's of eBay.

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/264923.jpg

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[Sprinter Freak]

ok so i dropped the car off to be wired up this morning. should hopefully have it back and running on either wednesday or thursday!!! :D

[Golberg]

Just outta interest who is wiring it?

[Gunner]

My Boss and I are wiring it up (SMD Workshop), started on it today actually, very cool little car, very well put together. Good work Ryan

[Sprinter Freak]

My Boss and I are wiring it up (SMD Workshop), started on it today actually, very cool little car, very well put together. Good work Ryan
good to hear dude :) thanks yea tried to stray away a bit from the normal ke70 build.

[Gunner]

everyone that came in today thought it was pretty cool. It's going to be one fun little car.

[Sprinter Freak]

everyone that came in today thought it was pretty cool. It's going to be one fun little car.

haha thats the reaction i was aiming for :DD yea i hope so :)

[dying3k]

good to see gunner looking after you

[Sprinter Freak]

ok so its been ages since i updated this, have been on holidays for the last 6 weeks so nothing has been happing with the car. but did get some stuff done before i left, so get ready for a long post.

ok so i gave it to SMD workshop to get it wired up, i thought it would be fairly straight forward. how wrong i was:right:
first up my injectors were screwed, no matter what we did we couldn't get them to pulse. so went about sourcing another set only to find they weren't the right type.... so got another set which ended up being good.

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/284955.jpg

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We put them in and tried to fire it up, but the injectors weren't getting enough power, found out i didn't have a injector resistor. so took a trip to Smithfield to get that, put in and that sorted that out, but now it was running really rich(had to keep the revs above 2000rpm or it would die) after a couple of hours of trying to fix it we couldn't work out what it was, so its still rich as running. Then to add to things i found out that my rear main seal was leaking. But eventually we got in running enough to take it for a quick spin, but with the luck i had been having something had to happen... and it did :(

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i must have forgotten to do up the wheel nuts properly(only had them on loosely because i was trying to put in my lock spacer before it went to the shop)

luckily nothing was damaged badly, just scraped the lower control and snapped a stud. so put the wheel back on and tightened all the wheel nuts properly and set off home. funnily enough the drive home was pretty smooth sailing(just had to top up the oil a bit and check the spark plugs), until i got into my street. i took the car for a quick spin up the street only for it to die on me at the end.

No matter what i did i couldn't get it started. so got the 4wd and dragged it back home. Finally got it into the garage and set about trying to find out why it wasn't starting. popped the bonnet, having a look around, i found that one of my thermo fan plugs was not plugged in and had not been for the whole drive home ( was a 45min drive). the engin was pretty dam hot, so was the intake(couldn't hold my hand on it). Then decided to check the plugs again, pulling out spark plug number 4 my stomach dropped, the thread on it was threaded!!!! i must have done it when i was checking the plugs when i pulled over(did it when it dark and raining with no light). so am going to have to get the head taken off and get the spark plug hole re threaded and check that the head isn't warped. Plus i may have a dud engine, when the car was running they guys at SMD thought it sounded like it was getting piston slap or the clearances hadn't been set right, so am going to have to get that checked as well:S So yea have lost a lot of motivation with this car but i wont let it stop me getting it finished. just have to get some money up first to so i can get things happening again.

[70rolla]

Did Ryan tell you how much he paid for the rebuild? And how much work was done for that price?
or how many issues that motor had when it was pulled apart ? That we're noted and made known to Ryan ?
As for oil leaks Ryan supplied a very poor quality vrs kit

In a budget build were issues should have been properly adressed but couldn't be 1. Because money did not want to be spent 2. Because he wanted it done ASAP there is bound to be small issues and teething problems ...as for clearencing/slap issues it was advised that it go to the next size ie.20thou over but I don't think Ryan could afford pistons there for the best alternative was applied Ryan was advised about the fact that it would be noisy because of this

[Matt]

I supplied the FWD loom for this as it was what was being asked for... Either way, it doesn't matter who was at fault etc. a young member off here has cut corners which he probably thought where ok to cut.

What can everyone here involved do to help him get it sorted?

[dying3k]

Lol delete my post

[dying3k]

I got a block he can have

[sundee]

Kina odd that all 4 injectors were not firing and they went about replacing them all.
Where abouts in Syd are you? Might be able to lend a hand if I get some spare time.

[joeschmo_57]

either way, i hope it gets sorted for you cos this is an awesome looking rig!

[Gunner]

Kina odd that all 4 injectors were not firing and they went about replacing them all.
Where abouts in Syd are you? Might be able to lend a hand if I get some spare time.

Yeah I thought it was odd too, but each injector was pulsed manually, with no success. From what I can remember, Ryan said they had been sitting for a while, so chances are they were just gummed up. But on the very limited budget (I think he paid under $600 for the job, which included replacing numerous sensors etc) it was cheaper to source another set of injectors, rather than have the dead ones serviced. Considering the fuck around this job was (engine was pretty well just placed in the car, with alot of things not connected or not there), and the amount of hours spent on the car to correct what was wrong with it (was supposed to only be wiring, not finishing the conversion), Ryan came out of it cheaply, he is a good kid, and I made sure that was the case.

So lets move on, and get to the more important issue at hand, and thats getting the car running, with as little coin as possible, cause it is one cool little KE.

[sundee]

Dude, Throw on a BBQ and some beers, and im sure a few of us will be more then willing to come help you sort it out.

[Gunner]

Well Ryan, needs to voice up a bit with what he wants to do, I think a few of us, should head over his way, and go to town on it. I'm not at that shop anymore, and don't have anywhere to work out of for a month or so, so I'm a bit stuck in that regard, but I'm sure we can work something out.

[dying3k]

Just saying i had 4 injectors stuck open, after mine sitting around for a while put them onto bench tester, soon as pressure hit like 20 PSI they pissed out, like everyone has said, people will help out, my cars fucked ill still help you out, i got a bottom end also here that might be fine (bp) all together sitting outside

[Sprinter Freak]

Did Ryan tell you how much he paid for the rebuild? And how much work was done for that price?
or how many issues that motor had when it was pulled apart ? That we're noted and made known to Ryan ?
As for oil leaks Ryan supplied a very poor quality vrs kit


In a budget build were issues should have been properly adressed but couldn't be 1. Because money did not want to be spent 2. Because he wanted it done ASAP there is bound to be small issues and teething problems ...as for clearencing/slap issues it was advised that it go to the next size ie.20thou over but I don't think Ryan could afford pistons there for the best alternative was applied Ryan was advised about the fact that it would be noisy because of this


Ok it was a cheaper build but thats because mostly assembly and machine work was done. We agreed on a price (which went up due to what he found). I supplied 90% of the parts for the rebuild which were all quality parts - acl bearings, arp rod bolts, trd headgasket, new toyota genuine headbolts etc. sure the motor a few problems but isn't the idea of a rebuild to fix or rectify the problems with an engine? ok sure the gasket kit was a generic brand but matt said you couldn't get toyota genuine vrs kits for this engine so the next best thing. I never said I wanted it done ASAP - it took longer than matt said it would but i was OK with this. And when any issues with the engine were brought up, i asked the advice/recommendation of the builder what to about these issues and went with it.

as for not going oversized pistons, i asked matt what his thoughts were. He asked what i would be using the car for, told him street use and some track work. He said as long as i used a thick good quality oil and made sure i kept an eye on my oil levels, using the standard pistons should be fine it may be a little noisy on warm up.



I supplied the FWD loom for this as it was what was being asked for... Either way, it doesn't matter who was at fault etc. a young member off here has cut corners which he probably thought where ok to cut.


What can everyone here involved do to help him get it sorted?



I got a block he can have

cheers dude, depending on how my engine turns out i might hit you up for that.


Kina odd that all 4 injectors were not firing and they went about replacing them all.
Where abouts in Syd are you? Might be able to lend a hand if I get some spare time.

yea thats what i thought but we tried everything, and they just weren't pulsing. i live near Gladsville, so its a bit of a trek for you to get to. but if you could that would be great :D



either way, i hope it gets sorted for you cos this is an awesome looking rig!

cheers man :) hope so too.



Yeah I thought it was odd too, but each injector was pulsed manually, with no success. From what I can remember, Ryan said they had been sitting for a while, so chances are they were just gummed up. But on the very limited budget (I think he paid under $600 for the job, which included replacing numerous sensors etc) it was cheaper to source another set of injectors, rather than have the dead ones serviced. Considering the fuck around this job was (engine was pretty well just placed in the car, with alot of things not connected or not there), and the amount of hours spent on the car to correct what was wrong with it (was supposed to only be wiring, not finishing the conversion), Ryan came out of it cheaply, he is a good kid, and I made sure that was the case.


So lets move on, and get to the more important issue at hand, and thats getting the car running, with as little coin as possible, cause it is one cool little KE.

yea they had been sitting for a few months so that could have been it. haha cheers dude, am also keen on getting this thing running:)



Dude, Throw on a BBQ and some beers, and im sure a few of us will be more then willing to come help you sort it out.

hmm this could be arranged, have a few little things i need to get done first (get some parts and the head sent of to get checked out) but may organise one :)


Well Ryan, needs to voice up a bit with what he wants to do, I think a few of us, should head over his way, and go to town on it. I'm not at that shop anymore, and don't have anywhere to work out of for a month or so, so I'm a bit stuck in that regard, but I'm sure we can work something out.

yea it would be good if i could get a hand from some of you guys. Theres a few things i've never really done before (pulling a head off, setting timing (guessing if you take the head off you put the timing out and it will need to be re set)) that have to be done and would be good to have people there who have done it before to save me from screwing something up. i've got most of the tools and equipment needed to do everything, unless there is a strange specialist tool needed to replace a rear main seal or pull a head off.


Just saying i had 4 injectors stuck open, after mine sitting around for a while put them onto bench tester, soon as pressure hit like 20 PSI they pissed out, like everyone has said, people will help out, my cars fucked ill still help you out, i got a bottom end also here that might be fine (bp) all together sitting outside

yea probs just need to be cleaned and flowed to fix them, have to get that done with one of the sets i've got anyway. ok ill see how i go, hoping that its just the valve clearances that need doing, but if its something more major ill give you a yell.




Main things i need to get done on the car are:
- replace rear main seal
- take head off and send it off to get checked out and get spark plug hole re tapped.
- change sensors over to ae82 ones and hook them up
- if that doesn't help the running rich then see if i have a vacuum leak

[Gunner]

Good shit Ryan, sort out when you want to get into it, I'll get some tyres, and an axle in my heap of shit (no guessing whats happened there haha) and we'll get stuck into it.

[sundee]

mate ill give you a hand when you get your stuff sorted and your mind made up

[Sprinter Freak]

ok so haven't really done much with the car, just got a few parts for it. was moving the car the other night and found the stud i thought i snapped( was sitting in between the brake backing plate and the disk)


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/289203.jpg


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/289204.jpg


new wheel stud and nut and a genuine toyota rear main seal (ordered in a new head gasket, am picking it up tomorrow)


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/289205.jpg


also damage from the tyre coming off


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http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/289207.jpg


still have to get a new set of spark plugs and a new gearbox mount. will probs get some work done on the car in the coming week.

[Sprinter Freak]

ok got a bit of work done on the car today. picked up my head gasket and some gearbox oil.


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/289223.jpg


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/289224.jpg




started by taking the shifter off, taking the shaft and taking some of the gearbox bolts off. (some were stuck on, too much loctite. so am leaving them over night with some wd40 on them)


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/289225.jpg


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hoping to get it done and have it back together by tomorrow evening, then its onto taking the head off :D

[Sprinter Freak]

Good shit Ryan, sort out when you want to get into it, I'll get some tyres, and an axle in my heap of shit (no guessing whats happened there haha) and we'll get stuck into it.

thanks man, haha sounds like you've been having to much fun in the vl :) sounds good.


mate ill give you a hand when you get your stuff sorted and your mind made up

cheers dude, much appreciated :)

are either of you guys free on the weekend sometime? a bbq could be arranged.

[Gunner]

Pretty flat out this weekend, will see if i can free up some time.

[Sprinter Freak]

Pretty flat out this weekend, will see if i can free up some time.

if you could that would be great:) but if your too busy i understand. shoot us a pm if you get any free time.

[Sprinter Freak]

have been a bit lazy lately. Gearbox still isn't out of the car, need to get the right sized socket piece for two of the gearbox bolts(will get tomorrow).


Did get round to pulling the intake off and draining out the coolant.


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/291908.jpg


found out that i had a break in my intake gasket, so have to get a new one of those. which type of gasket should i be using, the broken on or the un broken one? i'm not running tvis.


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/291909.jpg


also picked up some ae82 temperature sensors, so hopefully this should fix my running rich problem.


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/291910.jpg

[sundee]

Just saw your posts, I was away over the weekend so would have been no help.
I'd just ditch the tvis gasket and run the "broken" one.
But a new one of course. ;)

[Sprinter Freak]

Just saw your posts, I was away over the weekend so would have been no help.
I'd just ditch the tvis gasket and run the "broken" one.
But a new one of course. ;)


all good man no problem :) yea that was what i was thinking, will grab one at toyota tomorrow :D

[keimeier]

awesome stuff dude clean as hell.

love the xr4s all round wish i had another pair.

tip top!

[Sprinter Freak]

awesome stuff dude clean as hell.

love the xr4s all round wish i had another pair.

tip top!

thanks man :) yea there a pretty sweet wheel, only wish i had gotten a set of 14's instead of 15's and something a bit wider.

[Sprinter Freak]

ok so got the box off the motor with help from matt, but then decided that there was no way i would be able to put the box back on with such little space i had under the car. so decided to just take the engine out, will make putting the box back in easier and lets me send the whole engine off to get checked out rather then just the head.


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/299210.jpg

box off

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half out

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[Sprinter Freak]

bye bye engine :(


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/300886.jpg

[joeschmo_57]

why the unsmiley face?
it is going to come back better than ever!

[Sprinter Freak]

why the unsmiley face?
it is going to come back better than ever!

haha this is true, i dunno just sucks having to send it off a second time:right:

[dying3k]

not being a dick, perfect example of do it right the first time

[Matt]

At least all the hard work is done, and when it comes back it'll go straight in and "just work"

[Sprinter Freak]

not being a dick, perfect example of do it right the first time

yea thats fair enough. Have come to the conclusion that you don't screw around with engines, and definitely don't leave things to if and buts.


At least all the hard work is done, and when it comes back it'll go straight in and "just work"

yea thats true. Just got news back from the rebuilder, it needs oversized pistons and rings and the valve clearances done, but apart from that it looks ok which is good.

[dying3k]

ordering wiseco pistons from the US, 465 odd AUS with out shipping if your actually keen, PM me, im not going to fuck around though

[70rolla]

yea thats fair enough. Have come to the conclusion that you don't cheap out on engines, just do everything that needs doing.



yea thats true. Just got news back from the rebuilder, it needs oversized pistons and rings and the valve clearances done, but apart from that it looks ok which is good.


QUOTE=70rolla;860699]Did Ryan tell you how much he paid for the rebuild? And how much work was done for that price?
or how many issues that motor had when it was pulled apart ? That we're noted and made known to Ryan ?
As for oil leaks Ryan supplied a very poor quality vrs kit

In a budget build were issues should have been properly adressed but couldn't be 1. Because money did not want to be spent 2. Because he wanted it done ASAP there is bound to be small issues and teething problems ...as for clearencing/slap issues it was advised that it go to the next size ie.20thou over but I don't think Ryan could afford pistons there for the best alternative was applied Ryan was advised about the fact that it would be noisy because of this[/QUOTE][

ding ding ding

[Sprinter Freak]

ordering wiseco pistons from the US, 465 odd AUS with out shipping if your actually keen, PM me, im not going to fuck around though

hey man, cheers for the offer, but don't think i need wiseco piston for what i'm doing. Just going for a standard rebuild with a bit more reliability.

thanks anyway

[Sprinter Freak]

QUOTE=70rolla;860699]Did Ryan tell you how much he paid for the rebuild? And how much work was done for that price?
or how many issues that motor had when it was pulled apart ? That we're noted and made known to Ryan ?
As for oil leaks Ryan supplied a very poor quality vrs kit

In a budget build were issues should have been properly adressed but couldn't be 1. Because money did not want to be spent 2. Because he wanted it done ASAP there is bound to be small issues and teething problems ...as for clearencing/slap issues it was advised that it go to the next size ie.20thou over but I don't think Ryan could afford pistons there for the best alternative was applied Ryan was advised about the fact that it would be noisy because of this

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I would have happily spent the money and gone oversized if matt had told me it was necessary. But he said it would run fine with the standard ones, so i took his advice.

[70rolla]

I was there through every phone call and step of that build and you said you wanted to keep costs down therefore he ran a hone through and cleaned up the bores as best he could ...if you were happy to spend the money you would have brought genuine toyota seals and don't say you didnt because it was a wait out of Japan you can still buy them individually but you just wanted it done as quick as possible therefore you were to impatient to wait

[Matt]

I was there through every phone call and step of that build and you said you wanted to keep costs down therefore he ran a hone through and cleaned up the bores as best he could ...if you were happy to spend the money you would have brought genuine toyota seals and don't say you didnt because it was a wait out of Japan you can still buy them individually but you just wanted it done as quick as possible therefore you were to impatient to wait

Whilst this may be true, the motor shouldn't have been re-assembled as it was as it was done on the provision of "you might get away with it".

Lesson learnt by all involved so there is no need to keep going on about it.

[Gunner]

3 words for tyler and penis.

DUTY OF CARE

google it

im going back to my holiday

[70rolla]

We're does duty of care come into anything when he didn't want to spend the money to fix issues at hand what mats supposed to front his own money to fix Ryan's issues just to cover his ass?

All issues were made known to Ryan and advised that they've properly dealt with and fixed in the right way considering that mat built a 4agete before Ryan's motor that ran 20pound through it any issues that arose during the build were fixed and all necessary measures were taken to properly and assertively fix them there were no short cuts or cheaping out to keep costs down last I heard that motor was making around 200kw with ease ?

[Gunner]

mat agreed to take on the job, mat was aware of what could happen, and from this he should of told ryan that it would not be right and refused to do the job, as jt would fail prematurely. we are not talking about what mat has built before, we are talking about ryans engine. personally i dont care what he has done bfore as it carries no bearing on this situation.

Ill make it easy for you to understand, I as a qualified mechanic am doing a turbo upgrade on an rb25, the customer has supplied me with a poor quality oil feed line. I would be well withiin my rights to refuse to finish the job as I believe it is not safe. But if i told the customer i didnt think it was safe, then fitted it anyway. The customer then goes down the road the line ruptures, oils down the tyres and the customers prangs the car, I would be at fault, not the customer for beimg a tight ass. I fitted that part, it was in my duty of care to ensure the job was done right, and the right parts were used.

Shit happens, end of the day mat built the engine, mat built it with incorrect parts, mat knew it wasnt right, yet he proceeded, when he should of said, he is not going to finalise the.job as he does not have the right bits to do it correctly and it may fail. That is how he should of covered his ass, he fucked up, there is.no need to go on and on about it.

Mat is a young guy with potential, he made a.mistake about he went about this job, you guys need accept that and move on.

[70rolla]

He may have a made a mistake in carrying on with this job he thought he was doing the right thing buy helping Ryan as a young guy to get his car up and running just like you did with the wiring etc correct ?

My point at the end of the day is that this could simply have been avoided from the begining and easily corrected if Ryan had done what mat advised and gone to the next size ...this is a valuable lesson for not only Ryan.but anyone else that chooses to read over this thread cheaper options and cutting corners in a long term car build In particular the engine is just going to cause more hassles and grief In the long term ...do it once do it right if you don't have the money to do it today you can always get it done when funds prevail............

[LittleRedSpirit]

A thousand dollars well spent beats a dollar wasted.

[Sprinter Freak]

I never said i wanted to keep costs down, i just didn't want an all out build just a reco, i still wanted him to do everything that needs doing. And no its not that didn't want to spend money on toyota genuine seals its because i didn't know that you could still get them, i thought that you could only get generic ones. Now that i have learnt that you can still get gasket sets new from toyota i'm swapping out all the old ones for toyota genuine. You ask why i didn't get the gaskets individually, how could i? i didnt know what seals went into the engine apart from a head gasket, so i would have had no idea what to get. I was never impatient with matt, i didn't ring him up asking why it wasn't done yet or say that it was taking too long. It took longer then was i was told it would, but i was cool with that, i didn't want a rushed rebuild.

As for not going oversized pistons, matt never told me that it would get piston slap with the standard ones that were in there and that it would shorten the life of my motor. He said it would be a bit noisy on warm up, but run fine when at running temperature. If had known using the standard pistons would cause these issues i would have gone oversized. But being my first time getting an engine rebuilt i had no idea, so i just did what ever matt said needed to be done. I appreciate that mat was trying to help me out and do me a favour, but i would have preferred he told me up front that these pistons would not work rather then they should be fine.

[dying3k]

tyler, your not matt, if matt wanted something said he would say it himself


move on, its getting rebuilt like it should of been

[joeschmo_57]

and then drifts?

[Sprinter Freak]

and then drifts?

yes then massive amounts of drifts! :D

[Sprinter Freak]

not much to update, just installed my lock spacer.


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/304390.jpg


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/304391.jpg


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/304392.jpg

[Sprinter Freak]

ok so big update, finally got the car running! :D


got the engine back last sat but had a big night before so didn't get much done. Spent the whole of sunday and monday getting the engine in and everything hooked up. Crossed my fingers and tuned the key.... it wouldn't start. checked over all the fuses and fuel lines everything looked ok, then i found one of the fuel pump wires unplugged in the boot -.-


plugged that in and it fired up first go, was running good and not rich like last time.


took it for a quick run up and down the road, the alignment was really out and there were rattles everywhere. but i didn't care i was so happy to have it moving by itself :)


theres still heaps of stuff that need to be checked like the alignment and all the rattles but that will come soon.


anyways enough talk heres some pics.

old pistons that were taken out

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/309050.jpg

sensors swapped over

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/309051.jpg


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/309052.jpg


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/309053.jpg


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/309054.jpg


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/309055.jpg


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/309056.jpg


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/309057.jpg


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/309058.jpg


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/309059.jpg


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/309060.jpg


and a video of it with the drift pipes on, only goes up to 4000rpm because it hasn't been run in yet.


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/309061.jpg (http://s1081.photobucket.com/albums/j354/RyanRicho/?action=view&current=MVI_3845.mp4)

[joeschmo_57]

you must be stoked!

[Sprinter Freak]

you must be stoked!

yep am ecstatic, cant wait to get out on the track :D

[Sprinter Freak]

Went for my first cruise since the car has been running, went down to monavale then to palm beach stopped off for a bit there.


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/311692.jpg


Then headed to acuna bay and hit west head.


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/311693.jpg


racked up about 300km's so far and it hasn't really missed a beat. Theres a few little niggly things that need to be fixed like one if the fuel hoses at the rear seeping a bit and replacing the gearbox mount but that will come in the near future. Over all am really happy with the car :D

[Matt]

Well done for keeping at it and not giving up on this... Will be loads of fun

[anastasios]

Oh its you! haiii

[Sprinter Freak]

Well done for keeping at it and not giving up on this... Will be loads of fun

thanks man, am glad i pushed through and finished it:) yea its mad fun to drive, will be sweet once all the little things are sorted.

[Sprinter Freak]

Oh its you! haiii

haha yea its me, hey :)

[Sprinter Freak]

ok so a bit has been happening with the car lately, fixed the idling issue so was running sweet. swapped my fuel rail for one with a cold start bolt hole and hooked up that. Went to the jdmst meet last night and on the way home it started misfiring hard, had to get it towed to a mates place so will have to sort that out. Hoping to get out to eastern creek on the 12 of may for the wet pan day, but well have to see whats wrong with the car first.

[Sprinter Freak]

sorted out the missing issue it was clogged fuel filters. Swapped them out cleaned out the whole fuel system and now its running sweet:sunnies: Have booked a skid pan day at eastern creek for this sat so thought would give the car a freshen up. :DD

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/330461.jpg

[Sprinter Freak]

So over this car breaking!! First up i found metal shavings in the diff oil when i changed it, so am probably going to be up for a new diff centre soon and Last night the gearbox let go! :cry: When i pulled the box out today found i was missing a thrust bearing clip( supposed to be 2)


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/331663.jpg


And a piece of the clutch fork pivot clip missing


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/331665.jpg


Have no idea where either of them have gone :(


Wasn't able to make it to the skid pan day today and need to get my box reconditioned now :( bit over this car atm.

[Matt]

What is wrong with the box?????

[Gunner]

Sucks about the trouble your having ryan, its all part of the game though.

[dying3k]

Pull diff apart and have a look before you completely fuck it,

[Sprinter Freak]

What is wrong with the box?????

Not sure at this stage, but when i spin the centre shaft in neutral it makes a clunking noise at some points:right: And when it happened, you would take off and then it would stop suddenly, as if something was stuck in the gears :S. Am going to get it pulled apart and see whats wrong.


Sucks about the trouble your having ryan, its all part of the game though.

Yea man, have come to that conclusion as well. If you play with cars, expect them to break.


Pull diff apart and have a look before you completely fuck it,

yea dude im taking it out and sending it off to get checked out with the gearbox.