Wheel fitment thread- post your will this fit questions in here

[Sam-Q]

This thread is anything to do with questions on how the wheels will fit on the car or what sizes to go for.

[Stain]

Sunraysias?

[hachi_dk]

Id run em if I knew where to get em in 4 x 114.3

[Nicko]

Moved to the new Tyre & Rim Tech Section :)

[ke_70]

can we make a proper wheel fitment thread with just pictures and their spec? as in no random conversation at all...

[Nicko]

Yep

[foamy]

KE70. YR22 Tarago rear end, 8inch wheels with 0 offset. Back end has flares currently being bolted on. Don't have wheels yet to try a dummy fit....any guess as to if I'll need spacers to fill the flares? They are from topstage if this helps. I guess I'll find out sooner or later but would be handy to know now.

[takai]

Sunraysias?


Id run em if I knew where to get em in 4 x 114.3

CSA/Mullins Wheels do Sunraysia style wheels in 4x114.3. I think they do a 14x7 in 0ish offset.

[claw]

buy sunraysias in whatever hole and get em re drilled for about $100

[SHADOW KNIGHT]

lol the bad thing is that the re drilling costs more than an individual wheel num nuts !!!!!!!!!!!! lol

[claw]

haha

[foamy]

Maybe a better way of asking this is, has anybody fitted topstage flares to the rear guards and ran 8 inch (0 offset) rims with any hassles?

[lolwat]

foamy what car? 86 or ke???
86 it will fit on the back fine

[foamy]

KE70. I don't my car back till next week and I'm wondering if I'll need spacers to fill the flares.

[marvis]

Flares would poke heaps more.. 8's can fit on metal guards.

[aussierider]

I have top stage flairs for ke70, they took alot of dicking around to fit well, you could fit a 15x10 under there with ease my 15x8 with a 25mm spacer, still sit in about 20mm.

[foamy]

Do you have a photo of it you could upload for me?:D

[k.aaron]

Got these today. Just wondering what tyres will fit?
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/6/6/0/178120.jpg
15x6.5 +14

[ae86]

195/50

[blakey]

Anyone no how 15x8-25 would go under 86's guards?
Im assuming, flare if not just getting away with a moderate roll.

Also would their be any benifit to go like 15x8.5-20 instead of the above.

[johl]

are you talking about front or rear?

i run 15x8.5-21 on the front with xt130 lca's and standard guards. pretty much perfect if you can go low enough to get the lip down near the edge of the tyre. have a look in my build for pics

i would imagine it would be great on the rear with a roll

[blakey]

Talking all round.

What tyre are you running? 195/45?

Any bennifit to go 8.5-20 to 8-25?

Yea ill check it out cheers

[johl]

I'm running a 195/50. The only advantage to the extra width is that little bit more tyre stretch which you will need to run these all round. Anything this size or thereabouts will look really good on

[blakey]

Ahk cool, yea i just saw your pics NICE!! haha

Well when the time comes around ill get quotes on both sizes and compare.
cheers mang

[dustyae86]

15x8 +4 with s13 front end on ae86? running a 205 on the front most likely. will be in a semi so don't need stretch. Anddd what size tyre fits properly on an 8

[foamy]

8's ideally would take a 225. But finding cheap 225's isn't easy...195/205 wouldn't be too much of a drama.

[killabeez_1985]

15x 7.5 -5 Front of ke70 with xt130 arms ... will fit well?

Oh and what size tyres you guys think would be best.

195/55 ??? or smaller

[marvis]

195 50. or go a 185 if you can find them.

[killabeez_1985]

Sweet ty. Should have em on by next week so ill post some pics.

[stalker]

are you talking about front or rear?

i run 15x8.5-21 on the front with xt130 lca's and standard guards. pretty much perfect if you can go low enough to get the lip down near the edge of the tyre. have a look in my build for pics

i would imagine it would be great on the rear with a roll

Do you have a link to ya build thread showing the wheels sitting on the car please??
My search-foo is weak!
lol

[odessy]

Will 15x8 0 offset fit under stock guards after a slight roll, probably run 195/50's? Car sitting on lovell super low's (Dropped 2inch's)

[lolwat]

front, ke70, 30mm extra track each side, fit a 15x8 -10ish under metal???

[ke_70]

not with like -654 camber!

15x8 +0 is fairly flush with stock lca's. work from there

[Jacobxxx]

I have 14x8-15 stock guards and xt130 lca's -2 camber, are you talking s13 gear still Michael? 30mm with s13 lca's?

[lolwat]

yep s 13 LCA's are about 30mm extra from memory

[Jacobxxx]

Do r31 lca, fixes too much track issue and can fit 15x8's with a roll!

[lolwat]

i want the wide look, like GET FUCKED wide look

[odessy]

So anyone feel like answer my question lol :p... top of the page.

[Konakid]

15x8 0 with 195/50 will fit but cant really go that low without haiving stiff spring rates

Will need to roll guards yes. Rolling guards is pushing the lips flat on the inside edge, no point in slightly rolling the guards, you either do or you dont.

[odessy]

Ahh k that makes sense lol. Springs are 6kg... think it would be fine sitting as it is(lowered 2inch)?

[benno93]

what size tyre would fit best on 14x6(not sure of offset, +something close to zero) wheels on the front of a ke70, and 13x7 +5 on the rear

[ke_70]

185/55/14

[benzo]

what size tyre would fit best on 14x6(not sure of offset, +something close to zero) wheels on the front of a ke70, and 13x7 +5 on the rear

the Equips are +10

185/55 14 front, 185/60 13 rear

[Jip86]

i just bought xt130 struts with peugoet discs and hilux calipers, i love the 14x8 -10 huricanes but do i have a hope in hell of making them fit without spacers?

(as in will they clear the calipers, im not worried about the guards)

[Shinigami]

can anyone tell me which tyre brand can provide a 225/45r15, how much and who in brisbane?

[Nicko]

www.yellowpages.com.au

[gooza]

do you guys think for 14x6, a 185/55/r14 would be the best option? I know that Federal 595's come in that size and that Kumho do their KU31 in that size, so do Falken with a ZE912. suggestions on whether that size tyre is good and your preferred brand would be much appreciated! cheers!

[Hachi_Tom]

do you guys think for 14x6, a 185/55/r14 would be the best option? I know that Federal 595's come in that size and that Kumho do their KU31 in that size, so do Falken with a ZE912. suggestions on whether that size tyre is good and your preferred brand would be much appreciated! cheers!

dont get the falkens, terrible steer tyre.

[Jacobxxx]

Go 595 or Kumho

[gooza]

yeh just ordered two 595's yew

[Deeken]

Wondering how much work I'll need to get 15x8-4 under the back of my ae71.. Tucks about half the sidewall on 14's with 185/60's.. Is there anyone that does 185/55r15's? Just for skidders. Would love to skid on superlights

[johl]

will depend how low you are. road legal height it will fit nicely but if you are as low as your display pic then it will need quite a bit of a roll

[Deeken]

Nah that's my old corolla that had choppies in it. Mine now tucks half a sidewall on 14's.. Still above legal height. Is there any skidders that are made in 185/55r15? I've found 595's.. My na 16v won't skid 595s I don't think..

[Hachi_Tom]

Nah that's my old corolla that had choppies in it. Mine now tucks half a sidewall on 14's.. Still above legal height. Is there any skidders that are made in 185/55r15? I've found 595's.. My na 16v won't skid 595s I don't think..

falken zex912 i think they are called

alright tyre, shitty for steering, alright for track, mine didnt delam, just threw chunks when it got down to markers.

[Jacobxxx]

N/A 16v i would be using tyre piles skidders

[SOUTH70]

hey everyone, how much do you need to work stock ke70 wheel arches to fit 15x8 +4
cheers

[sundee]

you wont need to touch them at all.
will look pretty gay actually. that just my opinion.

[EpicXTC]

15x8.5 -9 4x114.3 onto a 1983 ae86

Will I get any dramas? Not caring about any legalities if they're involved at all.

[Hachi_Tom]

15x8.5 -9 4x114.3 onto a 1983 ae86

Will I get any dramas? Not caring about any legalities if they're involved at all.
if you are actually going LOW then it will be hard to fit with a 185/60
but if you go the height in your sig then you will be fine.

[EpicXTC]

lmao sig height looks lower than it is... so sweet :D

Cheers Tom

[benzo]

you will wanna run a 195/50 over a 185/60 too. lol

[EpicXTC]

you will wanna run a 195/50 over a 185/60 too. lol

Thanks Benzo :)

I'll keep this information jotted down somewhere. I'm not going to buy the works I was lookingat ... but I will later >:D

[Hachi_Tom]

yeah, sorry, thought i read 14'. yeah go 195/50

[tmas_the]

Did a quick search but didn't turn up anything. Anybody got any knowledge on how Work Equip I's or III's go with brake clearance? I've been keen for a set for a while but I need to clear R33 calipers at the front and I'm worrying about ordering a set online and finding they foul with the brakes or suspension. Or also if they have the extra holes drilled in the back to accommodate for wheels studs protruding past the ends of bolt on spacers? I couldn't find a diagram from Work anywhere on that.

Probably looking to run something around 8" wide, and I'd be aiming to be dead inline with the edge of the guards, but I don't know what specs people run for that? I'm at 9" +0 at the moment with about 10mm of poke, so I would assume -2.5 offset on an 8" would do something like what I'm after.

[Rice86]

just a heads up, these OLDER style wheels, watanabes, meshes for example, at the back of the face they are genially FLATFACE'd and will not clear big calipers, and R33 calipers poke out a lot compared to the 80s caliper designs..

so even though the RIM might clear the disc rotors, the caliper will hit the insides of the wheel before the wheel even touches the stud face.. so thats when you need spacers..

this is why its so hard to have big brakes with cool old skool wheels unless you have spacers

i know this doesnt really help you with your equip 3s, but its a clear sign that if they only make them with a flatface from the back then your going to need spacers to clear calipers..

Just FYI, when i had my brand new watanabes 15x8.5 -6 on my S13 with standard SR20det calipers, it didn't clear unless i shaved off quite a lot off the caliper where necessary...it didn't need to shave the caliper face but it had only about 3mm give or take from caliper touching the spokes on the watanabes

[sundee]

The above that rice86 mentioned also is determined by the mounting location of your rotor and therefore your calliper.
so each setup will differ, i got away with no spacer, outboard mounted rotor ( mounting face 7mm thick ) under 15" superlite with 298mm rotors, R33 callipers, (not using 86 struts btw)

[tmas_the]

Thanks for the replies guys. I was mostly worried about caliper clearance yeah. At any rate, I'm having difficulty with my finding wheels that have enough brake clearance not to scrub but that aren't so aggressive that they poke too far out of the guards.

Might have to look into a set of superlites, since they were my next option!

[t-nol]

Yeah Tim the Work 01's need spacers. Exactly as Richard said, they have a flat rear surface even the spokes which is what hits.

[tmas_the]

Thanks Trent, much appreciated. Maybe I'll grab a 25mm bolt on spacer and then a more positive offset, so I can add some distance between the face and the caliper.

[ShowUsYourTints]

G'day Gents,

Am about to aquire a KE70 1983 model, and just have a quick question about wheel fitment. Now, from my research, this is the following i've come up with, and wouldn't mind some opinions.

Will a set of Rota Shakotans, in 15x8 +0 with a 195/45/15 fit, with XT130 LCAs and AE86 shocks?KE70 Strut tops?

Cheers,
Shazza

[sundee]

no worries

[tmas_the]

I run Shakotans on my 86, but an inch wider in the same offset. I'm not sure about LCA's, but mine clear 86 struts and large brakes quite nicely, with a bit of poke on the front (5mm slip on)

[KurtHS]

Superlights have some of the best brake clearance I've seen.

[ShowUsYourTints]

So a 9" wide Shakotan will fit?

How much molestation of the guards will be required?

Cheers,
Shazza

[tmas_the]

So a 9" wide Shakotan will fit?

How much molestation of the guards will be required?

Cheers,
Shazza

Check with somebody about the similarity between KE70's and 86's since I don't know anything, but mine fit fine. PM me your mobile number and I'll send you a snap of mine if it helps.

That's something I'd been wondering Kurt, thanks for that!

[Jip86]

^ dont ke70s have smaller guards than 86's?



on a ke70
a 195/50 on a 15*8 0 offset will have about 5mm of poke on the rear with stock guards
the same size on the front will poke about 7-10mm with adj camber tops maxed out with stock guards

front corona xt130 struts, ke70 lca,195/50 on a 15*8 zero offset, adj cambertops with max camber, stock guards
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/7/1/1/300911.jpg

front corona xt130 struts,xt130 lca,195/50 on a 15*8 zero offset, adj cambertops with middle camber, stock guards
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/7/1/1/300912.jpg

rear, same 195/50 on 15*8 zero offset, stock guards. note: car requires adj panhard, pictured side has 10mm of poke, other side has about 3mm
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/7/1/1/300913.jpg

[ShowUsYourTints]

Mate, thank you, you're a legend.

That answered all my questions. Test fitted 15x8 +0 SUperlights today with a 205/55/15. Think I will be going for a 185/55/15 or a 195/55/15 in tyre size though, as the 205 just didn't have quite that much stretch.

[s13 james]

185 is wat most use on 7 up to a 9 on 14's,205 is hugee on a e7,from wat ive seen for a 15 by 8 people run a 195 50 15,looks good,fits wheel,drives wheel,can get bridgestone etc and hammer the square lip in the gaurds back on its self and you should be fine to go low as you can with 15's,may rub at times pending your sus setup

[NAH-JKS]

hi guys i was wondering how (f) 14x7+11 (r) 14x7-0 will they sit on a ke70 and what tyers should i get?
cheers

[claw]

will clear guards easy slammedwith 175/65 and maybe even same 185/60s

[marvis]

So a 9" wide Shakotan will fit?

How much molestation will be required?

Cheers,
Shazza

Lots.



LOL

[ShowUsYourTints]

Hahaha.

Ended up going for a 15 x 8" +0 with a 185/45/15 Nankang NS2.

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/1/5/0/1/9/322519.jpg
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/1/5/0/1/9/322520.jpg

[x_christ0n]

hey guys does anyone know if 15x8 +15 would fit with stock ae71 suspension?? with 195/50/15 of course

[Jimmee1990]

Should fit easily.

[slowKeto]

13x8 +4
Stock guards and struts
205/60/R13

Will they fit?

[s13 james]

205 is huge

[slowKeto]

205 is huge

Will they fit?

[_sawyer_]

Hey all, would a set of ma61 wheels 14x8 (whatever offset) with 245/60/14 old school bridgestones fit under a ae86?

[Ktas]

ma61 wheels are 14x7+8 the wheels would fit, tyres will scrub would be my bet...

but why oh why would you put 245/60's on a sprinter?

[_sawyer_]

Mine are defiantly 14x8, an I want to go for a fat look, not a fan of stretched. Maybe 225 or there abouts

[Hachi_Tom]

lol, none came in 14x8 man, they are all 14x7...

[_sawyer_]

lol, none came in 14x8 man, they are all 14x7...
Thats what i thought, ill get a picture to varifey, but i have measured and verified what is written on the rim itself

[spiderman]

Width is measured from bead to bead, sounds like you're measuring it from lip to lip, which is the wrong way to do it.

Can verify 100% that all MA61's are 14x7 +8, unless it's a US-market L-type rim, which is 15x6 +20.

[meadan]

The MZ10 soarers had the same 15x6 ma61 style wheels too, and I think early model taragos also....

[spiderman]

There you go. Learn something new every day :)

[Ktas]

can i get some pics of the wheels please? i heard they existed but havent heard of anyone who had any!

if not going for the stretched look and they are infact 8's, even with a 215 you will need to massage the guards abit to get the under, dont forget you will need to allow for the tires to roll across the sidewall through corners, so alittle extra room will be needed :)

[_sawyer_]

Dammit, I measured it lip to lip and saw an 8 n I got excited lol. Never mind then

[Jacobxxx]

13x8 +4
Stock guards and struts
205/60/R13

Will they fit?

Will scrub, go for a 175/60 or 185/60

[Ktas]

oh and by the way...14x8 ma61 stock wheels DO exist...they were released as an option...good luck finding any though

[spiderman]

In the last five years of browsing Toymods/three years of browsing on here, I haven't seen one single reference to these mythical 14x8 MA61's, ever. You're the first person I've ever seen claim they exist.
So, until you can show concrete proof that they do in fact exist, as far as I'm concerned you're talking out your arse.

[Ktas]

"
In the North American (http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/North_America)
market, the Celica Supra was available intwo distinct models. There was the Performance Type (P-typehenceforth) and the Luxury Type (L-type henceforth). While beingmechanically identical, they were differentiated by the available options; tire sizes, wheel sizes, and body trim. The P-type had fiberglass (http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/Fiberglass)
fender flares over the wheel wells, while the L-type did not. The P-type was also standard with the more sporty 8-way adjustable seats. The P-type did not get the option of a leatherinterior until 1983. All editions of the P-Type had the same 14x8aluminum alloy rims and throughout the years the L-Type had14"x5.5" rims until 1985 when they were changed to a P-typestyle 15x8. "

[spiderman]

Link to source? Because everything I've ever read on the subject says that North America got the same 14x7 +8 on the P-type throughout it's model life that we did on our MA61s. Same with the L-type, 15x6 +20 until they were superseded by the MkIII in '86.
I'm not trying to be a dick, it's just that you come in here and start carrying on about something that numerous people have already said does not exist without a shred of proof. Sense, this does not make.

[AJPS]

GA61XX toymods member actually told me about the 14x8 ma61 rims as well

dont know whether he was

a) making it up
b) tripping

but he knows the x6 chassis better than most, was around when they came out/were raced

so I wouldnt rule it out

[Ktas]

i see it as the same as the debate over whether the gt apex was aus delivered at all...i have been informed by multiple highly regarded sources that they do exist...people who have been in the game longer than i would dare say anyone on here...GA61xx being one of them...

[celicasupra7m]

14x7 and 15x6 are the only sizes ever made in the ma61 style.
There are repros available now from coddington in 17 and 18 inch.
15x8 and 9 would be nice imo :thumbup:

[Seventy]

It would just be people measuring them incorrectly I would say. Some 14x8 -8 MA61s would be nice though

[slowKeto]

14x6.5 +15
Ke70 stock


Yes or no?

[Jimmee1990]

Will fit easily, unless you're running enormous tyres.

[slowKeto]

185/60/R14

[Jimmee1990]

Will fit easily then.

[s13 james]

if those 14 by 8 ma rims exist,might find them on a nz forum, as they got the cool shit like quads and that didnt they?,i have never seen them forsale in my 6 years of trolling this and other forums,thow 6 years is fuck all when talking about cars haha

[AJPS]

its more of a dream than anything

maybe some one offs for a race car

[willeE7]

While we're talking about them, anyone had MA61's widened? Or heard of them being widened?
Could be kinda cool.

[Golden Circle]

They are a 1 piece Will?

[Hachi_Tom]

you can widen 1 piece wheels

dont think it would be too safe on ally though.

[willeE7]

Yeah, I've heard of one piece wheels being widened before.

[Jimmee1990]

As long as the welding is done properly, I don't see any issue with it. Had a few sets of widened wheels with no issues.

[nichy]

anyone got pics or sizes to suit front on rear guard for ke70 ?

going to be running super low and thinking 15x9 or 10 on rear and 8.5-9 on front. wold love 14's but 15's cheaper and easyer to find in those sizes.

dont mind some heavy guard work as car is getting painted in next month or so.

[benzo]

14x8.5 -13 185/55

all I did was cut the inner lips out, 9" would be easy with a light flare.

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/6/0/2/373532.jpg

you don't want an 8.5" on the front, take it from someone who has been there and done it

8" and 8.5" is ideal

[Sprinter Freak]

14x8.5 -13 185/55

all I did was cut the inner lips out, 9" would be easy with a light flare.

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/6/0/2/373532.jpg

you don't want an 8.5" on the front, take it from someone who has been there and done it

8" and 8.5" is ideal

whats the problem with running a 9" on the front? steering really heavy and non responsive?

[KurtHS]

Unless your running bolt ons or big flares they'll be more mexican than a fucking taco!

[sam2306]

not to mention hitting everything in site, benzo needed tubs with those 8.5s because they just kept hitting the existing ones due to the bulgy design.

[benzo]

yep. I ran 8.5j -13 + xt130s

was just gonna cut the inner guards out. but even then, the tyres were touching chassis. I had A LOT of lock though

[nichy]

Those wheels are mad. Will take the advise on board lol

[Delazy]

Definitely no bigger than 8/8.5j stagger...looks heaps better

[nichy]

on the front lazy?

[sam2306]

8.5 rear 8 front

[Sprinter Freak]

hmm so even with adjustable LCA's and adjusted heaps out will it still be hitting everything??

whats the best offset for 8" fronts and 8.5" rears?

[sam2306]

hmm so even with adjustable LCA's and adjusted heaps out will it still be hitting everything??

whats the best offset for 8" fronts and 8.5" rears?

so say you have 50mm extra track from the control arms and you get 9's which will have to be neg offset. how are you than going to fit them in any sort of guard?

[lolwat]

ryan i have sigma's(camber tops out as far as they can go) and JDM 86 rims (14x6 +something, its big though) and they sit near flush, and need a jack handle roll, and rub when turning

[Sprinter Freak]

so say you have 50mm extra track from the control arms and you get 9's which will have to be neg offset. how are you than going to fit them in any sort of guard?

hmmm this is true, guess ill look at some 8" or 8.5" then.


ryan i have sigma's(camber tops out as far as they can go) and JDM 86 rims (14x6 +something, its big though) and they sit near flush, and need a jack handle roll, and rub when turning

yea i know what you mean, my 15X7 +11 sit pretty nice in stock guards with slight camber at the front.

[Sprinter Freak]

anyone got some pics of 14X8 and 14X8.5 on a ke70?

[s13 james]

heaps in build threads

[Sprinter Freak]

heaps in build threads

yea searched around and found a few.

[AE86 Spoontah]

15x10 -30 on AE86. Am i asking too much even with flared rear guards? I had 15x8 -16 with a 25mm bolt on spacer and they sit flush with the guards.

EDIT: Need to run a 10mm spacer to clear calipers too

[sam2306]

15x10 -30 on AE86. Am i asking too much even with flared rear guards? I had 15x8 -16 with a 25mm bolt on spacer and they sit flush with the guards.

EDIT: Need to run a 10mm spacer to clear calipers too

front or rear? thats going to look wack either way.

[AE86 Spoontah]

Rear. Wouldn't a 15x8 -16 with 25mm spacer become 15x8 -31

[Hachi_Tom]

depends how high you are. i could in no way run a 10 -26, but my car is sacked.

[AE86 Spoontah]

This is how it sat with the 15x8's. Still plenty of room between tyre and guard.

26214

[AJPS]

This is how it sat with the 15x8's. Still plenty of room between tyre and guard.

26214

thats height wise

[AE86 Spoontah]

Yeah and? Obviously the lower I am the harder it is to fit Mexican wheels in. I have plenty of tyre to guard clearance width and height wise.

Better question to ask then. Who has 10" wide rims on their AE86

[johl]

i do. they don't fit. i have somewhere around +50mm flares and there is still rim outside this. even with 195/50 tyres they don't fit. mine are 15x10.25-51 and i have s slightly wider diff. it won't look too great if you can't get low enough to pull it off. will look better with just 9's on the rear. but if you want 10's get 10's. it is possible to make them fit, just not easy

[AE86 Spoontah]

Cheers man, very helpful. I think my F series is shorter than most as the car originally had some wide 17" Simmons that still fit under stock guards

[jay70]

lol wait are you leaving it that height?

[AE86 Spoontah]

Yep but would sit lower if it hadn't been on car stands for a year haha . It's solid as a rock even at the height it is with matched springs amd shocks and don't want to spend money on suspension just to make it look cool. The fronts rub the guard at full lock.

[benzo]

don't want to spend money on suspension just to make it look cool

*buys 15x10 -30

[nichy]

Hahaha^

[AE86 Spoontah]

$116 a rim... So suck a fart

[nichy]

Please put pics up when you get them.

[AE86 Spoontah]

Might not get them on the info johl gave me. Thinking about going for 15x8 -25

[benzo]

$116 a rim... So suck a fart

literally the worst reasoning I've heard for buying wheels that will never fit under your car let alone look any good

just do 15x8 -25

[jay70]

lol wow dude at your height i would really give up on trying to have 'fitment'

just get good looking wheels (not steelies) that actually fit

[AE86 Spoontah]

Sorry I've got 5 stud and can fit 17x 9.5 under stock guards... Jelly much?.

Oh and you're saying johls dont look good. Haters gonna hate is the term i think im looking for. Seriously i ask a question and all i get is criticism from fuckheads with no real contribution.

[AE86 Spoontah]

lol wow dude at your height i would really give up on trying to have 'fitment'

just get good looking wheels (not steelies) that actually fit

I didn't ask about fitment which in your reply sounds like i'm going for the hella flush look. I asked if they would fit?

[Ktas]

to weigh in on this and stir the pot alittle more...you could fit them, but you could also fit 20x12's at the current ride height, but you wouldnt...

15x8-25 would be a better size in my opinion, i have fit 15x10 -26 on the back of an E7 with a hand flare, but it wasnt ideal due to scrubbing when going over a 10c piece hahaha

just remember that you will be losing an 16mm of clearance on the inside, and gaining 34mm on the outside edge, thats just in the rim ;)

[AE86 Spoontah]

Na mate you were more helpful than other's. Think I'll go for the 15x8 -25. Cheaper again at $75 a rim

[Ktas]

if you dont mind me asking, what rims are they?

i need some skidders, you said you had 5 stud...are they available in 4 stud?

[AE86 Spoontah]

Sunraysia's off eBay. waiting for the haters to have their input

They only come in 5 or 6 stud mate.

[ke_70]

sunraysias? good choice.
they're like real wheels but 20kg's heavier

i run 14x8.5 -30 they don't hit but im not all that low or have much lock.

[jay70]

lol clay weight doesnt matter. hes just doing it to piss off the haters, hahaha have fun with that bro

[benzo]

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/6/0/2/538090.jpg

let me go to Johl the man himself


it won't look too great if you can't get low enough to pull it off.

doesn't matter if trailer wheels or TE37V. any wheel THAT BIG is gonna look like junk at your height

[Hachi_Tom]

i have 10j on mine and they fit fine. though they are 0 offset. 195/50
albeit i can't run my 8j -12's with 185/60's, have to be smaller.

inb4 steelies are gross
i needed skid wheels and they were cheap.. i have legit wheels too guys.
i think i posted it a while back but yeah. 10j 0's with 195/50.
35mm~ rails height.

also same wheels on the front with 5mm slip on spacer to clear coilovers. (i dont run these, 14/15 stagger fo lyf)

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/2/5/9/231618.jpg
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/2/5/9/395527.jpg

[AE86 Spoontah]

If i was going to keep the car, i would make the car fit the rims. Since it's for sale with rims that don't clear the inner rear guard without a bolt on spacer, I made the decision to buy a cheap wheel that would clear and still have some sort of fitment, not 6" of tuck.

I asked if they fit, and they do. I didn't ask how it would look, but i got plenty of answers for that.

[s13 james]

why did u go 5 stud?

[AE86 Spoontah]

I bought the car with it already done. GTR's have five stud so a five stud rotor is to match. There is also a bigger selection of wheels if you would like to go above 15". I'll throw a pic up of when it had the 17" Simmons on it. It doesnt actually look too whack with rims that fill out the whole guard.

[s13 james]

fair enough

[AE86 Spoontah]

26234

These were custom ordered to fit. The guy i bought it off wanted an extra $2500 on top of asking price to include the rims but i could'nt afford them back then. When i called him about 2 years later, he still had them and was waiting for me to buy them. I;ve tried calling him since but can;t track him down.

[sundee]

maybe thats a good thing. :right:

[sundee]

some steelies look good but the weight....
i just went from a 12 kg steelie... to a sub 7kg ally wheel.. and stuff me the difference in handling, acceleration, and how the suspension is working under the car is amazingly different..
its my 1st hand experience at seeing the affects of unsprung weight... and now i want to make everything hanging down there as light as it can be!

[Hachi_Tom]

maybe its because i have zero power, but i cannot notice the difference lol. maybe its because im not running them as steerers.

[JDM_KING]

hey can anyone help???? whats the max offset you can run on a lipped and rolled guard on ae86 ? just want to know different ideas.

offset and rim size

[20v ae71]

Can I make these fit? 225/50/15 Toyo R888 on a 15x9 -10 front and rear KE70 with Tarago diff and 20mm longer LCA's.

[AJPS]

with flares
Can I make these fit? 225/50/15 Toyo R888 on a 15x9 -10 front and rear KE70 with Tarago diff and 20mm longer LCA's.

[Hachi_Tom]

hey can anyone help???? whats the max offset you can run on a lipped and rolled guard on ae86 ? just want to know different ideas.

offset and rim size
15x12 -79

[20v ae71]

Cheers Dave, but I was more concerned about fouling problems associated whilst turning on the front due to the larger overall diameter. I know its a long shot but any idea at all what sort of castor i'll need to run in order to clear the back part of the wheel well? near where your feet are, that bit. I'm not worried about guard clearance. Also will this limit my lock by any significant amount? I think the 14x8's were juuust touching on the chassis rail on full lock whilst suspension was compressed, there are some light rubbing marks there.


with flares

[johl]

wherever the wheel rubs hit with a hammer until it stops.... fixed

[Konakid]

Can I make these fit? 225/50/15 Toyo R888 on a 15x9 -10 front and rear KE70 with Tarago diff and 20mm longer LCA's.

Are you drifting or gripping? what size tyres and offset were on the 14x8's?

It would foul badly everywhere, mainly on the front guard due to castor and the inner wheel well at full lock if you have ps arms. Probably not on the back of the guard cos you should be running +ve castor around +4 at least with stock arms. A 225/50 is a massive tyre for a corolla, why so big? Id say a 205/50 would probably give all the clearance and grip you willl need.

For good handling you really dont want a 9 - 10 up front. An 8.5 0ish with 205/50 would feel good.
The less negative offset on the front the better unless you're drifting then who cares!

[20v ae71]

Grip. were -10 hurricanes with 185/60 RE001. Really want to run the same size all round, R888's arent exactly cheap and I want to get the best wear out of them. And I think 205 will be too narrow, new motor will be pushing around 250kw atw. I was already on the limit of adhesion on a 190/570 (works out to around 205 in road size) Avon full slick when it was 150kw.

I need more grip, both up front and back. If they made a 225/45 or even 40 i would be all over it but they ceased production of the 45 profile a while ago. Plus with a bigger diameter tyre you do actually get a marginal increase in contact patch.

If I run a longer LCA I can overcome the fouling on lock, my main concern is the rear section of inner wheel wheel like I was trying to explain before, not sure if it made much sence but its the bit your feet rest against.

[Konakid]

i see. turn it full lock with wheels you know the size of and tyre then use this offset calculator to work out how much fourther in they sit. should tell you if it will foul.

http://www.willtheyfit.com/

[20v ae71]

Wow thats a really good offset calculator. I was using the 1010tires one but it doesn't give alot of info. Cheers for that!

[JDM_KING]

cool website man

[JJRC]

Finally the time has come for new wheels.
Looking at TE37V's
Front - 14x9 -15 185/60/14
Rears - 14x10 -25 185/60/14
Don't mind flaring and rolling guards.
Also main duties for this car are street and drifting, so will there be any detrimental effects of running these sizes?

[johl]

Is that enough tyre in the rear? Some brands of wheel don't like stretch and won't hold a tyre too well. I would make sure you can run the tyre size you want because with a 10 in the rear you can't afford to run a huge tyre

[JJRC]

I'm not sure, that's why I'm looking for other peoples experience. I'm looking to stay 14" and from other people's setups choose those specs from the Ray's website as they seem close to what others have run. I don't mind stepping down in width or upping tire width if the sizes I've put up are too much of a compromise in handling.

Here is the spec sheet for the TE37V's TE37V Spec Sheet (http://www.rayswheels.co.jp/2009/products/wheel_en.php?code=VOLKQ_TE37V)

[johl]

8's up front and 9's in the rear will sit nice. anything wider and you will definitely need bolt ons or major guard mods. even 9's will need quite a roll. and with the different rim depth between the 8j and 9j it will look great imo

[jay70]

depends what height you're at bro but the 10s will take a lot of work to fit

if i was you 14x8.5 all round with 20mm extended lca's up front (and watanabes instead of te37s but i'm a little biased haha)

[Konakid]

Forget 10's. 9 will cause heacaches up front at big lock angles too. That much stretch would feel like shit to drive on too.

8.5 -5 is a sick size and as big as you would want up front, i would just go these all round will only need to flare guards slighlty with 185/60. bigger than 9 on the rear looks retarded with such a small tyre but 185/195 / 60 is about all you can get for 14 these days.

[JJRC]

Thanks for the advice guys, I'm going for 8.5 up front and 9 in the rear. I'll decide on tyre sizes when they get here.

[Sprinter Freak]

Dont know if this is the right thread but it seems appropriate enough. i've got 15X7-1 on the front now and i've increased the track a lot to try to make it clear on full lock, but its still scrubbing on the front.

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/403705.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/403707.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/403709.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/5/1/8/5/403711.jpg


what would be the best offset rim in a 14X8 for a car with a fair amount of lock? Also trying to get more lock. I'm looking at getting some equipe 01's in a 14X8 -18. what do you guys reckon? the next offset up from -18 is -28 which think would be impossible to fit and drive like crap.

Also looking to go pretty low with the 14's as well, hoping to get the guard about an inch or so off the rim when on the ground. The car is used as an all rounder track car. I know having the car that low wont be very functional but am planning to raising the car and using some 15X7's for racing and street use.

[jay70]

the way those lca's work is a bit silly, should be extended after the caster rod mount to get more clearance

[Sprinter Freak]

the way those lca's work is a bit silly, should be extended after the caster rod mount to get more clearance

why should i adjust the the castor rod before i adjust the lca? i know when you adjust the lca first with out lengthening the castor rod, it will start to give you negative castor. But then you fix it by adjusting the castor rod out to give you positive castor. btw im running 2.5" toe out and 2.5"of camber and pretty high castor.

[jay70]

lol no i mean instead of the adjustable part of the lca being where it is, that should be kept standard, then the lca's should be lengthened after the where the castor rod mounts to it which will give you more clearance

[johl]

It doesn't look like you are running much castor because you haven't even trimmed the front of your guard. I think from memory anything over 5 degrees was hitting my old guards

[Konakid]

What extra lcok modifications have you done?

Mine had AE86 powersteering arms and 185/60 14x8 -0 with 10mm longer lca's, +4 castor and no rubbing issues.

Is it rubbing on the chassis or suspension components? What size tyre are you running?

[Sprinter Freak]

lol no i mean instead of the adjustable part of the lca being where it is, that should be kept standard, then the lca's should be lengthened after the where the castor rod mounts to it which will give you more clearance

ah k i think i get what you mean, as the lca is adjusted out the angle of the caster rod changes and gives you less clearance.


It doesn't look like you are running much castor because you haven't even trimmed the front of your guard. I think from memory anything over 5 degrees was hitting my old guards

its sort of eye aligned at the moment, its just clearing the guard at the front when turning. Probs need to trim the guard and extend it out more.


What extra lcok modifications have you done?

Mine had AE86 powersteering arms and 185/60 14x8 -0 with 10mm longer lca's, +4 castor and no rubbing issues.

Is it rubbing on the chassis or suspension components? What size tyre are you running?

i've got cut and shut jdi knuckles, an ajps lock spacer on the passenger side and 5mm slip on spacer on the drivers side. ive also had more teeth cut into the steering rack for more rack travel. i run a 195/50/15 on a 15X7 -1. At the moment its only scrubbing the caster rod on full lock, but i think if i run some spacers it should clear it for now.

I'm pretty sure a 14X8 -18 should clear fine but am also thinking about whether it will fit inside the guard. the wheels i'm looking at are O disk (http://www.workwheelsusa.com/media/wheels/30/86/Equip_01_SPEC09A4.pdf) so negative 18 offset could be more like -24 offset in A disk (most wheels). so it could look pretty mexican :/

Anybody tried a 14X8-18 on the front of a ke before?

[s13 james]

closer to 0 the beter,but its not the end of the world unless you plan to do serious laptimes,just dickin round and drifting would be fine,ive run a -27 on my 86 before my current mk3's which are neg 8 and car drives alot better and still with tuff look,just pull gaurds futher,its a good size wheel for e7's and 86's most run that or similar

[Konakid]

the more neg offset on the front generally will make it handle worse and feel shitter to drive. I personally think that amount of lock is too much as like you are experienceing you run into all sorts of problems and have to compromise in other areas of the setup when you never really use max lock in practice.

To cure your problems go the -18 and run a 185/55 tyre, should be fine.

[ke_70]

thats some serious lock your trying to achive there.
i suggest lots more lca length and castor.

all you gotta do is look where its hitting and find a way to increase the gap as much as possable

[JJRC]

Slightly off topic here but which manufacturers still make decent 14" tyres? I've only come across the Toyo R888's and the Bridgestone RE001's.

[ke_70]

re001's are discontinued now. unless they've started makeing them again?

i use 185/55/14 595's. i rate them fairly well.

[Jacobxxx]

KU31 come in 185/55/14 steerers
and Ling Long 185/55/14s for skidders

[s13 james]

595 185 55 14 steerers
nankang 185 55 14 rears

[DR86FT]

Does the work equip 03 with the "A-DISK" option fit over the wilwood bigbrake kit?

[ae86 slide]

Tried reading this thread to find out the best option for bolt on flares for a ke but I'm hung over and there's 21 pages for fucks sake so can someone just tell me what to go for?

[Konakid]

8J -15 to -25 you can work out where wider sizes would fit from there.

[CRO747]

this will be one of those ridiculous questions but what offset wheels can i run on ae71 wagon with xt130 lca's no bigger than 14x8 and ony lipping the guards no flare?

[DR86FT]

Smallest tyre on 15x9 ? 195/50 or 205/50

[AJPS]

195/50

[Konakid]

this will be one of those ridiculous questions but what offset wheels can i run on ae71 wagon with xt130 lca's no bigger than 14x8 and ony lipping the guards no flare?

14x8 +-0 with 185/60 but depends how low you are and how soft your spring rates are. Will need -2 of camber with camber tops to tuck them in also

[High-Rolla]

Will 15x8 fit on a ke30?

[Zane k]

I have the choice to go 14x8.5 -8 (Roughly) or 14x9 -15. They are mk3's, will it be to much hassle to fit the 9's under the front guards? Im running G4 9k Coilovers And roughly -5ish camber? Would the 8.5's be a better option?

[jay70]

what lca's do you have? I had 8.5 -13 with stock lca's and camber maxed and there wasn't much room. I just put 20mm extended in and they're not going to fit at all

[jay70]

im guessing this is for ke70? 86 guards are a bit bigger. have 9-20 with 175/60s on the front of the 86 and they just fit but they poked a mile on the 70

[Zane k]

Lengthened and boxed 86 Lca's, Will be running about -5ish camber, Just gonna go with the 8.5 lots of people seem to think it will be the better option.

[Konakid]

Def 8.5

[blair]

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/1/4/9/539267.jpg

SSR MK-II 8.5 -7 with 5mm slip on (effectively -12)

+10mm LCA (xt130) with -3 camber

185/60 re001

should give you a decent idea of what you are in for :)

[Zane k]

Pretty much exactly what I'm after, thanks heaps man! Much appreciated

[Jake70]

Hey guys, I own a ke70 and I have come to the crunch of wheel choice. I've decided to go for some 15" Work Equip 03's, however I'm a bit stuck on offsets. I'm definately going for bolt-on flares opposed to metal flares. Something like the TopStage flares, 240z ones.
My question is- what sort of offest should i be looking at for a 9.5" wide on the rear with standard length diff & drum brakes?
and for 8.5" on the front with adjustable LCA's & AE86 front suspension/mazda FC brakes?
I'd like to be able to fill up my guards nicely :)
many thanks in advance!

[Konakid]

Depending on how big the flares are you can go pretty big but the more negative offset on the front will make the steering feel a bit shit because of the huge inrcrease in track and what not.

Good choice in wheel though. On the front i would go no more than an 8.5 -20 with -2.5 camber and the rear 9.5 -20 but it all depends on how wide the flares, are, 30mm, 40mm, 50mm? What tires do you want to run size wise?

[Jake70]

the flares themselves are around 60mm, but I factored in the extra width because I am removing the standard flare on the wheel arch completely for a nice flush fit so approx 40-45mm over. I understand how it will effect steering so I won't be increasing the track out much with the control arms. but atleast I have the option to when i put smaller wheels on.

Thanks man, I think they're such a clean design.
and thanks for the info! really appreciated
I want something with a bit of stretch but not too aggressive.
also, as I am running drums I still want the option of converting to disc (corona rears) so should I go for the "A Disc" type?

many thanks and happy endings

[Protius_h]

will this work or recomendations please

Watanabe r type 15x8 -0 or 15x8.5 -6

AE86
Standard LCA
shock works coilovers
spirited drive willwood brake upgrades
jdm T series rear in the near future

plan on running it as low as legal for qld and dont want to scrub if i can

[johl]

should be ideal mate. watanabes in 14/15x8 up to 14/15x9 all look pretty good on ae86's. the sizes you mentioned shouldnt need too much of a roll if any to fit when low

[johl]

this is 15x8 zero all round just to give you an idea
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/7/3/525090.jpg (http://s176.photobucket.com/user/johlmansfield/media/ae86-15x8-01_zps2bf8bee8.jpg.html)
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/7/3/525091.jpg (http://s176.photobucket.com/user/johlmansfield/media/ae86-15x8-0_2_zpsdaf5d051.jpg.html)

[Protius_h]

this is 15x8 zero all round just to give you an idea
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/7/3/525090.jpg (http://s176.photobucket.com/user/johlmansfield/media/ae86-15x8-01_zps2bf8bee8.jpg.html)
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/7/3/525091.jpg (http://s176.photobucket.com/user/johlmansfield/media/ae86-15x8-0_2_zpsdaf5d051.jpg.html)

cheers this is exactly what i was after THANKS a heap

[slider4life]

Hi guys I've got an ae86 trueno coupe I want to order some 15 inch work equip 03 on stock guards I don't mind rolling them but I'm not going to flare or fit bolt on guards. From what I can find on this site and info I've seen people seem to fit 15x8 -6 o disk on the front and 15x8 -6 or -18 o disk on the rear but I haven't had a full confirmation on it can anyone shed some light thanks I'm trying to get the most dish I can fit on the car for that good fitment look without too much scrubbing thanks guys

[Konakid]

as long as the car isnt too low (tucking tyre) 8 -6 will be fine with a 195/50 tyre. You will have to roll the guards though and probably remove the front plastic guard liners. Depending on how much castor you are running to may have to trim the bottom of the front guard for it to clear as your turn the wheel.

[slider4life]

Thanks konakid what do you think about 15x8 -18 o disk for the rear of the car????

[Konakid]

will poke out from the body line by about 10-15mm and will rub a lot. The -6 will sit even in line with the guards.

[slipp]

I've tried my best to search online and the forum, with no luck so apologies if this has been asked and answered before - Does anyone have any examples of TE37V fitment on a AE86? I'm tossing up between 15x7.5 front 15x8 rear, but I haven't been able to find a lot of fitment examples online (plenty of examples without wheel details).

Thanks in advance.

[dove grey 64]

those widths are easy to fit steve,comes down to offset and how you want them to fit

[slipp]

Thanks Geoff. I want the wheels to fill up the guards with the wheels tucked under the guards - probably a lightly negative offset as well.

The image below is exactly the look I'm after, would anyone know what sort of wheels specs these are by eye?

http://www.jdmeuro.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Volk_Racing_TE37V_AE86_Toyota_Corolla_GT-S_02.jpg

Edit**
So I just found the source of this image online and it looks like the specs are:
Font wheels 15×9″ -15.
Rear wheels 15×10″ -25

Would the following specs a) look similar to this (ie look good) and b) fit with unmodified guards that are only rolled?
Font wheels 15×8″ 0.
Rear wheels 15×8.5″ -5

Thanks again for any help.

[johl]

You won't go wrong with those sizes mate

[dove grey 64]

From my experience you'd need a stretched tyre on the rear with a guard roll and fronts would need a roll aswell.
The rear wheel bead will be dead on the stock wheel arch, as will the front depending on camber setting

[slider4life]

I'm pretty excited I've just ordered 15x8 -6 front and 15x8 -18 for the rear on stock trueno coupe gards I think I might need a good stretch to fit I was hoping to go 195 50 but may have to go 185 50 what are your thoughts. Also rolled guards pretty hard and I'm not slamming the car top of tyre will be just tucking thanks guys

[Jimmee1990]

15x8 -18 will poke about 15mm each side. 195/50 will be pushing it depending on how stiff your springs are.

[Tally]

Looking at getting some 15s for my AE86. Wanting to know whats the biggest tire and/or rim width I can fit under stock rear guards with rolled lips. Id imagine low + offset on a 7/7.5/8???

Was looking at 225/55/15 tires,

[dove grey 64]

8" zero offset is as far as sensible goes in my opinion. You can go wider with a positive offset (keeping in line with guard) ie. 9" +25 will still fit like a 8" zero
James' panda coupe has 205/50/15 on 15" zero rims. Inner lip rolled, sits nice

[Tally]

^ awesome help dovey - gives me something to work with when looking for wheels ")

I was thinking of going ~ +20/25 or so to get the track in as much as possible but with the widest width as im drag racing :P

but then again is rim width that important if I can still fit a 225 on a 7" rim? smaller rim = less weight and more sidewall flex????

[dove grey 64]

Should be fine for a street drag car. Get a 185 for the fronts for less rolling resistance though.

[Konakid]

For drag you want a bit of sidewall, id go 15x7 0 to +10 with a 225/50

[Tally]

Thanks heaps for you help guys, much appreciated!

[874age]

what would i need to do to get 15" x 10.5j -32 rims to fit on a t140 corona?

lower,flare arch's and stretch tyres.....or more?

[drift kid]

Biiiig flares and thiiiin tyres

[Big T]

Hells yeah. Would need +40-50mm flares to get it sensible.

[874age]

Would they foul/hit the suspension?

[Big T]

Would they foul/hit the suspension?

No. They would sit 29 metres outside your existing outer guard ;) -ve offsets push the wheel further away from the centreline of the car.

[874age]

perfect thanks

[HYROLA]

185 60 on 13x9 safe to skid ?

[foamy]

Have a F series diff and AE86 front suspension on a KE70.

15x8+15 on the rear clear everything (I have flares, but they would probably clear the stock guards if they were rolled slightly). Fronts are also 15x8+15's, needed a 5mm spacer to clear FD/FC RX7 calipers. Will need some small spots 'clearanced' to get 3/4 lock or more.

[darkon]

Afternoon All

Any one having any idea how a 15x9 +10 will fit the rear of a 86?

Guessing outter clearance will be fine with rolled guards, not sure about inner clearance though with a spring and shock combo (not coilovers)