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decoyslikecurves
26th March 2005, 08:23 PM
For the removal of sound deadening to save weight or whatever your reason be, there are 2 good methods you can use...

1. Hammer and chisel.
Get some tunes and a mate and maybe a beer and start hammering and chiseling... You WILL need to repaint the metal afterwards as you would have no doubt scratched some of the paint on the metal underneath the sound deadening from the chisel.

2. Dry ice.
Grab some dry ice, dump it on the deadening and throw a towel over it.. leave for about 2 mins and then move onto a new section, hit the "iced" section wit a hammer and it will shatter, adn sound deadening will shatter away.

This mod is mainly for race cars that are trying to save all the weight they can, the removal of carpet/sound deadening etc DOES make your car quite a bit noisier, but you'd be surprised how much the final amount of sound deadening you throw away weighs.... I know I was.

mikes86
26th March 2005, 08:27 PM
another 1 that works is a heat gun and scrapper. use turps to remove any left over glue. also a coat of paint would be good for a little bit of rust protection.

slide86
26th March 2005, 09:00 PM
Originally posted by mikes86@Mar 26 2005, 09:27 AM
another 1 that works is a heat gun and scrapper. use turps to remove any left over glue. also a coat of paint would be good for a little bit of rust protection.
yerp this is exactly what im doing atm
got some chassis paint to put down so the paint wont scratch up

mumblezzz
26th March 2005, 09:02 PM
Also note. Only consider doing this if you are serious about weight reduction. I wouldnt recomend this to anyone drives their car daily or likes listening to music while driving. Cause once its gone you'll be hearing every vibration, every stone flicking up through the guards, every groan of the chassis twisting.

slide86
26th March 2005, 11:53 PM
i did about 75% of the drivers side footwell area tonight (where the pedals are) and i thought i would weigh it to see how much i got out. and to my suprise it was 2kg this stuff does weigh a bit

mr2drift
27th March 2005, 12:23 PM
definately makes listening to music a no goer, but adds to the race car feel, also not that with a 4age installed, the passenger footwell floor gets VERY hot for people with no shoes on.......

decoyslikecurves
27th March 2005, 09:10 PM
Yeah its a brutal thing to do, but so far I love it...

mr2drift
27th March 2005, 09:52 PM
dont get me wrong, it was early on in the build of the yellow car i did it, even right up the firewall and all.....

DRiiFT_King
2nd April 2005, 01:34 PM
yeah im doing the same thing, but im only doing the foot wells, as all the tar has melted and lumpy. the heat gun method is the best, iv found if you hold the heat gun over it to long its goes runny, but if you move the eat gun around the area it just peels off.

slide86
3rd April 2005, 07:41 PM
yeah ive found that the sound deading in the boot is no where near as heavy or thick as the stuff in the foot wells etc

upgarage
12th April 2005, 04:47 AM
heat gun and scraper is by far the best method
this method doesnt dent, scratch the paint as much as the hammer and chisel.

use kero, degreaser to remove the residue
heres a few pics of mine, freshly painted
http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/photopost/data/500/13664114_1450.JPG
http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/photopost/data/500/13664114_1449.JPG
http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/photopost/data/500/13664114_1448.JPG

id definately reccomend repainting

looks so shit other wise
im thinking about putting some chequereplate or something in the footwell

slide86
12th April 2005, 05:14 PM
damm that looks nice ^ mine has all little bits of blackshit that didnt come off with the heat, so yeah its all ugly lol

upgarage
13th April 2005, 03:42 AM
what i did was put some kero in a spray bottle then spray on and let it soak for a while
then wipe away

there is some brown stuff near the joints
just paint over it all

DRFT - 86
18th April 2005, 09:52 PM
yep.........painted mine with green/aqua hammertone............looks quite good.................although Im gona put carpet back in down the track.......

Medicine_Man
18th April 2005, 10:37 PM
Get a tin of prep wash (wax / grease remover) from supercheap and wipe over the left over sound deadening with a rag, it will get it off..

Jusdrifn 86
19th April 2005, 04:35 PM
i want to do it, but i think i will put it off until i paint the whole car properly...

i do alot of km's in my car and im leaving a stereo in for this reason
if i got a second hachi that i was going to go all out in, that would definately be done, cheers on the advise on how to do it however

upgarage
19th April 2005, 08:02 PM
its a fun exercise let me tell you

monkeymajik
21st April 2005, 12:27 AM
Im doing this at the moment, but might be leaving the front footwells in. mostly because I CBF http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/smile.gif

It's fun http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif. Will the kero effect the paint at all? Im at the cleanup stage now.

upgarage
21st April 2005, 01:34 AM
kero will clean up all the gunk thats left.

will leave the surface nice and clean for painting.

slide86
21st April 2005, 10:06 AM
Originally posted by monkeymajik@Apr 20 2005, 11:27 PM
Im doing this at the moment, but might be leaving the front footwells in. mostly because I CBF http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/smile.gif

It's fun http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif. Will the kero effect the paint at all? Im at the cleanup stage now.
do the front footwell's that part weighs the most

RobertoX
2nd May 2005, 11:57 AM
i had a little pick at mine yesterday, ill just get the stuff out of the back and leave the front...i do want some music sometimes hahaha

garage_kook01
2nd May 2005, 07:15 PM
yeah im doing the same
my misses wants music and the floor gets hot enough without carpet so i will be keeping the front stuff

slide86
2nd May 2005, 07:46 PM
yeah i was thinking of doing that but the stuff in back of the car weighs nothing. if ur taking that out may aswell take it all out.
front footwells weigh the most, the whole rear and middle of the car may weigh like 1-2kg if that

garage_kook01
3rd May 2005, 08:44 PM
ive got nearly 5kg's out of it and ive only gone from the back to the front bar where the seat rails bolt in

slide86
4th May 2005, 05:35 PM
really, well ive done the whole back and the drivers side foot well and that weighed 6kg
and the drivers side footwell itself weighed 5kg http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/dry.gif

mikes86
4th May 2005, 08:18 PM
5KG! 5KG! if your that worried about the weight in your car, go on a diet.

slide86
4th May 2005, 08:29 PM
Originally posted by mikes86@May 4 2005, 07:18 PM
5KG! 5KG! if your that worried about the weight in your car, go on a diet.
whole car up to the fire wall should weigh 15kg ish

mikes86
4th May 2005, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by D1_Spec+May 4 2005, 07:29 PM-->
<!--QuoteBegin-mikes86@May 4 2005, 07:18 PM
5KG! 5KG! if your that worried about the weight in your car, go on a diet.
whole car up to the fire wall should weigh 15kg ish [/b]
still 15kg is not very much, it wont increase your power to weight by a large margin. but on topic of sound deadening removal i noticed that your back seats keep more sound out than the sound deadener.....

MAT713
11th May 2005, 05:55 PM
i had done this 2 my hachi only a couple of weeks ago, i used a small crowbar and a heat gun.

warm it up just a little, u dont want it bubbling, with the crowbar u can get under and lift the whole thing off like a piece of pizza http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/biggrin.gif

i did the entire car and lost 37kg's! http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/ohmy.gif http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/biggrin.gif a very heavy degreaser was used afterwards to remove the residue and clean it up

Medwin_3sGTE_AE86
12th May 2005, 02:06 AM
37kgs? hmmm... i highly doubt it.... i did it to mine and it came up to about 10kgs (2 cardboard boxes full...one weighed 4.5kg, the other 6kg) all up... the only part i missed was the firewall part.... i doubt that weighs 27kgs... i agree with the front foot well part.... thats where most of the weight was, its about 3 times thicker than the rest...

I think most of the weight loss on the crazy 800kg jap sprinters come from the fibreglass panels/doors/hood/boot... theres easy 100kg savings there... The aus spec doors are fkn heavy.... at a guess 45kgs each...

monkeymajik
18th May 2005, 12:26 AM
Im almost done the back. This is such a shit of a job. My hachi smells like kero.

driftae86
18th May 2005, 01:03 AM
Originally posted by mr2drift@Mar 27 2005, 11:23 AM
the passenger footwell floor gets VERY hot for people with no shoes on.......
hahaha, thats funny.

anyway, passengers dont matter. they are just excess weight http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/biggrin.gif

RobertoX
19th May 2005, 08:59 AM
when you have no power....every kilo counts

ae86dave
1st June 2005, 11:55 AM
wats the best method to remove it?

upgarage
1st June 2005, 02:40 PM
as i said above
heat gun and scraper

monkeymajik
1st June 2005, 06:24 PM
approx 3.6 kilos out of the rear section here.

inark
2nd June 2005, 12:43 AM
man this is one job im not looking forward to once i get mine...
mind u for extra weight loss im also removing the dash.... heater... air con etc etc

only having 2 seats.... but then it will have an 8 point+ roll cage and many other bits on it so that will probably add the weight back on.

still... sounds like a bit of a prick of a job... how long has everyone spent on it?

SirLyndon
2nd June 2005, 09:03 AM
hey narky, ill let you know in a couple days, im about to tackle the front and rear footwells once i get off my arse and buy a scraper..

inark
2nd June 2005, 03:43 PM
haha cool.
i better get one too i spose http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/smile.gif

*bj*
3rd June 2005, 10:44 AM
Originally posted by truenosedan@May 19 2005, 07:59 AM
when you have no power....every kilo counts
exactly
i am currently removing the deadening from my starlet (old rwd kp61)
it also shows up quite a bit of rust that needs repairing in the drivers wheel well
at times i wonder if the sound deadening is the only stuff holding my cars together...
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/biggrin.gif

garage_kook01
3rd June 2005, 07:17 PM
man id say its taken me like 5 or 6 hours all up

its been 3 weeks now and im nearly finished
its 1 of those jobs you need to be in a good mood to do (or very board

inark
3rd June 2005, 07:23 PM
lol

hmmm sounds like fun http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/wink.gif

funkymonkey
3rd June 2005, 07:59 PM
wallpaper scrapers help... alcohol dosen't...

inark
3rd June 2005, 08:05 PM
haha dont gt drunk while ur doing it then u spaz

RobertoX
3rd June 2005, 10:04 PM
you guys need to change your signatures or something, it looks like the same person posting!! hahaha

funkymonkey
3rd June 2005, 10:28 PM
super fun happy sliders > * http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/biggrin.gif join us, you know you want to. OK I'll change mine to the D1 style SFHS logo.

I meant we were using the alcohol to take the sound deadening out numbnuts, not drinking it. It dosen't help either way http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/biggrin.gif

inark
3rd June 2005, 10:36 PM
Originally posted by funkymonkey@Jun 3 2005, 09:28 PM
super fun happy sliders > * http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/biggrin.gif join us, you know you want to. OK I'll change mine to the D1 style SFHS logo.

I meant we were using the alcohol to take the sound deadening out numbnuts, not drinking it. It dosen't help either way http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/biggrin.gif
hahaha yeah i get confused sometimes too...

that makes more sense monkeh http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/biggrin.gif

emilmh
4th June 2005, 09:09 PM
Originally posted by inark+Jun 3 2005, 09:36 PM-->
<!--QuoteBegin-funkymonkey@Jun 3 2005, 09:28 PM
super fun happy sliders > * http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/biggrin.gif join us, you know you want to. OK I'll change mine to the D1 style SFHS logo.

I meant we were using the alcohol to take the sound deadening out numbnuts, not drinking it. It dosen't help either way http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/biggrin.gif
hahaha yeah i get confused sometimes too...

that makes more sense monkeh http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/biggrin.gif [/b]
haha yep i've been mistaking you guys for each other heaps! only figured out you were two diff people the other day http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/blink.gif

funkymonkey
5th June 2005, 05:59 PM
hehe wait till the rest of the super fun happy sliders start joining up http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/biggrin.gif

SirLyndon
9th June 2005, 10:12 AM
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/huh.gif im freakin out here!!!

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/ohmy.gif !


WHICH ONE DID I SLEEP WITH LAST NIGHT?!?!!??!!??

inark
9th June 2005, 10:38 AM
lol shut up u

was monkey obviously.... hes the only one small enough to thrash around on the inside of ur car

funkymonkey
9th June 2005, 11:28 AM
has to be narkeh, he's the one walking funny today.

inark
9th June 2005, 11:44 AM
Originally posted by funkymonkey@Jun 9 2005, 10:28 AM
has to be narkeh, he's the one walking funny today.
SIF... i just over did it at the gym last night...


honest http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/smile.gif

slide86
9th June 2005, 05:09 PM
why not just spam some more. lol http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif
keep on topic fellas http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/ph34r.gif

inark
10th June 2005, 01:34 PM
sorry http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/smile.gif

on the topic... i will be doing this next weekend as well as stripping the interior and will put it all into a guide with lots of pics etc.

will be for our team website but more than happy to put it on here when its done.

Daniel-AE86
12th June 2005, 04:42 PM
In the panel shop i wosto working in, removing sound deadening is easy if you heat it up with the oxy and then scrap it. Make Sure TO REMOVE THE FUEL TANK

Dish
12th June 2005, 07:39 PM
Are any of you guys planning on re-carpeting your car? When I get my hatchi i'm gonna look at keeping everything and just re-carpeting to make it look nice rather than the race look like Josh's. And If I end up doing a gze bottom end with 20v head and turbo..weight shouldn't bother me http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif ,

-Roy

upgarage
12th June 2005, 08:15 PM
stuff using an oxy, removing fuel tank

trust me, heat gun and scraper is the easiest way

Daniel-AE86
12th June 2005, 08:45 PM
Yeah, heat gun sounds simple and safer.

Im just telling what my tradesmen did and the way I learned it from tafe.

slydar
20th June 2005, 02:26 AM
(Brett typing) Yeah l used the heat gun and scrapper too, too one night and a little of the next morning.

You can speed the process up bu putting kero or petrol in a spray bottle and giving it a spray every know and then a couple of times a day a few weeks in advance, helps disolve and loosen it, just be sure to let the petrol evaporate well entruly before using the heat gun.

Some one said that they did theres and it came close to 37kgs, l would almost vouch for that, l did the entire car and it weighed 29kg mesured using bathroom scales

anyway came out pretty well, quick sand and paint and heyhey baby

funkymonkey
20th June 2005, 06:08 AM
wow... that looks nucking futs!

inark
21st June 2005, 05:40 PM
shoit... shiney http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/biggrin.gif

*right click... save as...*

now i have a pic to go on for the cage setup in my car http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/smile.gif
stuff those little bolt in cages... mmmm fat pipes haha

.wolfwood
4th August 2005, 02:04 AM
i so with i had your car brett, well atleast the cage, im currently removing that shit outa my car, *i was pwned by swearing filter* me its so boaring. and shit not much room in the boot to do this.

i used friggen hammer and scredriver, this scredriver is adjective bit adn strong, it was better than a shisel. didnt destroy all the paint and shit underneath.

i also hade a leaky sufge tank in the back so fuel was on one side and that made it heaps easyer to get it off.

by a heat gun,(it think i got one somewere) its just a gun looking then that you can change waht heat come ut of it, (has no flames)?

thanks for ya help ben

btw brett you still got your other sprinter, i herd you crashed it, is this true???

.wolfwood
4th August 2005, 03:28 PM
waht do people do with that shit thats n the joins in the body, its like body filler kinda shit, leave it or bring it down the the moetel so it look good or what, there is alote of it around the front seatmounts.

some one plz help me im currently up to this and im not sure what to do

upgarage
4th August 2005, 09:38 PM
id leave it
just primer and paint over the top
doesnt turn out too bad http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif
http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/photopost/data/500/medium/13664114_1450.JPG

.wolfwood
5th August 2005, 06:45 PM
what do you primer it with, i used turps to clean all the stick shit of but the paint doesnt stick to it http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/dry.gif. so waht should i use?

mikes86
6th August 2005, 01:27 AM
Turps is oily but removes sticky things well. So after cleaning the sticky stuff off with turps, you clean the turps of with metho. Leaves it clean and ready for paint.

Poobrown86
6th August 2005, 10:55 AM
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/ph34r.gif

I finished my buid a little while age, and urge you not to do the following.

At the time i tried soaking with turps. good to soften it up, but using a pressure washer is not the best idea. sure i came off the foor in a hurry, but en http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/blink.gif ded up EVERYWHERE> http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/blink.gif

in the end best meythod was to use paint scrapers when it was cold, this way there is not too much sh*t left behind

The best thing you can do then is prime, use a 2-pac undercoat, after you clean al the mess up with wax and grease remover. As for the floor joints, i dug most of this out and used sikaflex to make it smooth, even did the corners so i can hose the inside of the car out.

I painted the floor with 2-Pac industrial floor paint in metallic silver and it looks pimp. engine bay too. the best bit is thhis stuff is cheap and is really tough, i cant scratch it

.wolfwood
6th August 2005, 03:00 PM
no scratching sounds good, i was only spraying the floor with that rust stop shit, im not painting tyhe hole inside untill i get my cage fitted. but yeah the paint would stick on the floor. went all strange

JDMJNKY
25th September 2005, 06:25 PM
I weighed 26kg out of my car

.wolfwood
22nd December 2005, 01:51 PM
here is mine half way through, what a pain in the ass job...

TGZ DR10VE
24th December 2005, 08:46 PM
hey dose anyone have any floor and boot carpet still in go0d condition? i want some carpet, mine came without it, and it gets real h0t, even with a 4ac lol. also how much you want for it if anyone has any?, im located in sydney

slide86
24th December 2005, 11:00 PM
u can buy carpet cheap and cut it out urself to fit.
or if ur lazy there are company's that sell the carpet ready to do into ur car.

OBE353
25th December 2005, 01:53 AM
Originally posted by TGZ DR10VE@Dec 24 2005, 07:46 PM
hey dose anyone have any floor and boot carpet still in go0d condition? i want some carpet, mine came without it, and it gets real h0t, even with a 4ac lol. also how much you want for it if anyone has any?, im located in sydney
dude i ripped my boot carpet out and threw it but thats from the back seats back, ill try to save the rest of the floor carpet for ya if u want it, it wont b out for a few more weeks though maby longer

Steve-AE86
26th December 2005, 08:03 PM
i didnt' bother reading the rest of the thread, just page 4, but a good way to get it out, which doesn't take long, and uses minimal effort, is to use dry ice.

crack it all up, and dump it all over the floor.

give it a minute, then tap the floor with a hammer, and it'll all crack off.

ae86dave
2nd May 2006, 01:57 AM
and where would u aquire dry ice from?

Steve-AE86
2nd May 2006, 12:03 PM
the bait and tackle shop near the corner of Commercial Road, and Grand Junction Road, near Port Adelaide. Across the road from Hungry Jacks.

costs around $8 per brick. i used 2 on my car.

ae86dave
3rd May 2006, 08:08 PM
^^will do




cheers

Choad
10th May 2006, 06:29 PM
dry ice bombs dave??????

hehehehehehe
*evil laugh*

Gilly
11th May 2006, 07:31 AM
wear gloves with dry ice, and don't use it in a confined space, it takes all the oxygen out of the air around you and you can black out with no warning. happened to a guy here at work he got in the back of one of our aircraft and started unloading the bags, all of a sudden the bags stopped coming down the belt, he was out cold!!!. there was 12kg of dry ice behind the bags. during flight it pulled the oxygen out of the air, had to go to hospital and shit, pretty freaky!!

dori_86
11th May 2006, 12:50 PM
far out!
just a quick question with the dry ice

how do u transport it?

how easy is it to get?

and... how big is a brick?

SPEEDCORE
11th May 2006, 02:43 PM
Throw it in the esky dude. The better sealing the esky is the better.

skit
29th May 2006, 01:42 PM
I haven't had time to read this whole thread, but seeing as no-one seems to have posted up weights of items within the car, here goes. I know there will be some discrepancies, but this is what I came up with.

All sound deadening material throughout car: 13kg.
Rear seat (lower part): 6kg.
Rear seat (upper parts): 4kg x 2 = 8kg
All carpet in car: 5kg.

Add it all up gives you around 32kg.

My 14" spare wheel is 16kg.
I have not included weight of rear belt mechanisms etc which would not equate to much anyhow.

I'm not proclaiming these figures are exact, but it might confirm what other people are posting. I certainly wouldn't expect a 25kg reduction just from chipping out your sound deadening alone though...

keiichi
1st June 2006, 08:29 PM
i just finished removing a total of 25kgs of sound deadening (out of a toyota corona). along with all the other weight loss ive done for it it now is only one ton! with an engine that i putting out about 90kw and 200nm its a pretty good drift base. and its my daily driver, weeeeeee!
but seriously people should think about gettin themselves a corona. theyre worth it.

ae86dave
2nd June 2006, 12:22 AM
^ rep the oldschool

RobertoX
2nd June 2006, 03:39 PM
yo

i did my whole ae71 this morning

took about an hour

i used dry ice, fucking awesome!!!!111

im gonna clean it with diesil (sp)

dori_86
2nd June 2006, 03:56 PM
where did u get it? is there some1 near u or did u have to got across town?

RobertoX
2nd June 2006, 04:33 PM
i got it dropped to my house

for dry ice see

www.yellowpages.com.au

keiichi
2nd June 2006, 05:58 PM
1 hr damn thats quick.
took me like 6hrs... though that was without dry ice or heat gun. just elbow grease http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

RobertoX
3rd June 2006, 08:25 PM
fuck that!

tom210
4th June 2006, 02:08 PM
hey all i have a much easier way of removing it, i have used this on at least 200 cars, all you need is an air compressor and an air chisel, and presto no more deadener, to do a hachi takes me around 15-20 min once all the carpet is out, much esier than having to use ice, then just get some prepsol and a rag and clean up any of the sticky residue thats left. Air chisel costs around $20 from super cheap had mine for around 5 years and still going

tom210
4th June 2006, 09:31 PM
i have taken a total of approx 120-130kg out of my car so far, and it still retains glass which is soon to be replaced with lexan, i installed a full cage which is approx 50kg, which leaves me with a car that weighs around 820kg, keeping in mind the things i didn't weigh stuff like the wiring and various engine bay bits and pieces which all add up. And after i install frp doors, hatch, guards etc i shoud see around 770kg i'll let you know when i'm done

keiichi
4th June 2006, 09:52 PM
nice work.
did u take out the whole dash too? if so how much did it way?

driftism
4th June 2006, 10:04 PM
what is best for removing the last of the tar? turps doesn't seem to work all that well, and you use heaps...

RobertoX
5th June 2006, 07:59 PM
diesel, prepsol etc

ae86 drifter
13th June 2006, 12:30 PM
bug and tar remover

tom210
13th June 2006, 08:25 PM
yeah gutted all the dash too can't remember what all that crap weighed now just running fibreglass dash pad

RobertoX
15th June 2006, 12:05 AM
did you take out side intrusion beams?

D1
15th December 2006, 11:00 AM
hey guys i just finished removing my sound deadner, seats belt mechanisims and all the other little bits n peices. I used a hammer drill with a chizled end took fark all time. What did you guys do with those little plates that cover up lots of holes? and is this legal? it looks a little ghetto atm but once its cleaned and painted should be sweet. http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/2thumbs.gif

keiichi
15th December 2006, 12:51 PM
my car passed inspection (NSW) with the sound deadener and carpet removed. i used a hammer and chisel to get the deadner out, which also resulted in raping the little plates but i covered them up with floor mats.

D1
16th December 2006, 02:49 AM
cheers man you got pics

Patto
11th January 2008, 11:08 AM
did mine with a hammer n chisel took me 3 hrs removed about 12 kgs'also removed fan heater box dash wiring extra unneeded steel
standard a ke70 panelvan weighs 775kg (according to rego papers..) i have removed at least 70 kg so far,aimis to remove another 10 of so
want car to weigh no more than 850kg with cage etc...........

Clinton
11th January 2008, 05:08 PM
no way does it weigh that little, they weigh about 1080kgs. the D1 86s weigh about 850kgs with frp bonnets and quarter panels and perspex

keiichi
11th January 2008, 05:25 PM
corolla's weigh 960 and hachis weigh 950... rego papers are sooo inaccurate.

Patto
11th January 2008, 06:29 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (keiichi @ Jan 11 2008, 04:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=466992)</div>
corolla's weigh 960 and hachis weigh 950... rego papers are sooo inaccurate.[/b]
gvm is 1275kgs........................so your saying "load"capacity is 180 kg's .....that means driver and passenger and no load !!!!

jono86
11th January 2008, 08:56 PM
hahaha 775kg stock ....... i gotta get me some of that crack!

Patto
11th January 2008, 11:24 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jono86 @ Jan 11 2008, 07:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=467130)</div>
hahaha 775kg stock ....... i gotta get me some of that crack![/b]
read it and you tell me what the weight is
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/8/4/3/162429.jpg
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/8/4/3/162430.jpg

well...........

skin
12th January 2008, 12:13 AM
yea dude i dont think it matters what that says

no way its that light

keiichi
12th January 2008, 03:51 AM
i was looking at cars at the wreckers one day.... same model car varied from 1000 to 1200 kg.... also saw a nissan 260z that weighed 500kg :P

ghetto ke
12th January 2008, 01:17 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dr!ft_Sh@gg!n_W@g0n @ Jan 11 2008, 09:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=467190)</div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jono86 @ Jan 11 2008, 07:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=467130)
hahaha 775kg stock ....... i gotta get me some of that crack![/b]
read it and you tell me what the weight is

well...........
[/b][/quote]

like the old saying goes "you can't believe everything you read", stick you car and a weigh-bridge or corner scales to be sure what it weighs.
Even manufacturer's claimed weights will vary due to actual as they are almost always dry weights, and don't always account for optional extras...

ghetto ke
9th March 2008, 08:16 PM
I think this maybe the thread I was looking for to post this (mods feel free to cut/paste into FAQ sticky thread relating to OEM weights if there is one)

Zenki 12-5-1983
2-Door___Levin___Trueno
GT:..........900kg.....905kg
GT-Apex:..925kg.....NA*

3-Door___Levin___Trueno
GTV:........935kg.....940kg
GT-Apex:..940kg.....NA*

Kouki 27-5-1985
2-Door___Levin___Trueno
GT:..........910kg.....930kg
GT-Apex:..940kg.....(960kg)**

3-Door___Levin___Trueno
GTV:........940kg.....950kg
GT-Apex:..960kg.....(980kg)**

*Not listed but Trueno generally +5kg over Levin.
**I think this is highly dependant on options.
These are taken from p.100 of the Corolla Levin Sprinter Trueno Memorial printed 2004.

If you reply and have taken your AE86 on weighbridge or used corner weights please include what weight reductions performed for your results.

marvis
6th April 2008, 09:27 AM
I used dry ice for the ksev. Worked sweet :)

pope
6th April 2008, 06:50 PM
Air chisel FTMFW

Tried heatgun and scraper and got bored in like 5 minutes.

Dry ice was more fun but a bit expensive.

Just finished of with the air chisel. Didn't do any where near as much damage to the paint underneath as i thought it would.

Now i have to sand and paint.... <_<

driftism
8th April 2008, 12:01 AM
what have people used for removing the stonechip on the rear of the inner guards? i was thinking an angle grinder with a wire brush on it, because it's pretty tough stuff.

LIL BLU MAN
8th April 2008, 09:32 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BOZO @ Jun 4 2006, 08:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=231169)</div>
i have taken a total of approx 120-130kg out of my car so far, and it still retains glass which is soon to be replaced with lexan, i installed a full cage which is approx 50kg, which leaves me with a car that weighs around 820kg, keeping in mind the things i didn't weigh stuff like the wiring and various engine bay bits and pieces which all add up. And after i install frp doors, hatch, guards etc i shoud see around 770kg i'll let you know when i'm done[/b]

how do u get rid of so much weight o.0

Sprinterboy
8th April 2008, 05:25 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (w84me @ Apr 8 2008, 08:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=514989)</div>
how do u get rid of so much weight o.0[/b]

I'm yet to weigh mine since i removed all the deadening. But at a guess i pulled out 80kgs, that includes seats, carpet, deadening etc.

(I had some heavy seats)

redsprinter
8th April 2008, 06:10 PM
i found the heat to be the most effective but that also means alot of cleaning ...


wire brush is your best friend for the stone chip .. tho i don't think you will save that much weight.. plus it will be super nosiy .

driftism
9th April 2008, 10:02 PM
not really fussed, going to be painting the whole shell, so i thought i'd clean up all the underneath, as i've already cleaned it all off the underside.

going to get stuck into it with an angle grinder with a wire attachment as the one on the drill didn't get me very far.

James86
10th April 2008, 12:30 AM
^ thats how my bro removed the datsun stone chip

DRFTPG
15th April 2008, 03:01 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (D1_Spec @ Apr 12 2005, 04:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=149510)</div>
damm that looks nice ^ mine has all little bits of blackshit that didnt come off with the heat, so yeah its all ugly lol[/b]

to get that off just get a wire wheel for your drill and go for it

Robo86
15th April 2008, 07:10 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (741 @ Mar 9 2008, 07:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=499406)</div>
I think this maybe the thread I was looking for to post this (mods feel free to cut/paste into FAQ sticky thread relating to OEM weights if there is one)

Zenki 12-5-1983
2-Door___Levin___Trueno
GT:..........900kg.....905kg
GT-Apex:..925kg.....NA*

3-Door___Levin___Trueno
GTV:........935kg.....940kg
GT-Apex:..940kg.....NA*

Kouki 27-5-1985
2-Door___Levin___Trueno
GT:..........910kg.....930kg
GT-Apex:..940kg.....(960kg)**

3-Door___Levin___Trueno
GTV:........940kg.....950kg
GT-Apex:..960kg.....(980kg)**

*Not listed but Trueno generally +5kg over Levin.
**I think this is highly dependant on options.
These are taken from p.100 of the Corolla Levin Sprinter Trueno Memorial printed 2004.

If you reply and have taken your AE86 on weighbridge or used corner weights please include what weight reductions performed for your results.[/b]

wow i got a light one, yay

ae71neo
15th April 2008, 07:20 PM
I'm gonna be attacking this soon. Thinking about using the air chisel option and see how it goes from there.

pope
15th April 2008, 07:43 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ae71neo @ Apr 15 2008, 06:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=518349)</div>
I'm gonna be attacking this soon. Thinking about using the air chisel option and see how it goes from there.[/b]
Try and do it on a colder day. Helps the deadener crack with the air chisel.

ae71neo
15th April 2008, 07:51 PM
Alright, thanks!

redsprinter
16th April 2008, 11:37 AM
hey ae71neo . get some dry ice while your at it .... freeze it soild then air chisel it .... or spend 20 bucks at bunnings at get a cheap heat gun and a paint scraper .

ae71neo
19th April 2008, 06:41 PM
Yeah, thats probably the best idea hey.

Where do you get dry ice? Did someone say BOC?

sr_rolla
19th April 2008, 08:23 PM
prolly, theres a heap of places in penrith that stock gases chemicals etc. yellowpages my friend

and the KE70 vans are light as, there commerecial vehicles so they have no saftey stuff (side intrusion bars) and no pollution gear. On top of that they are major povo pack inside, no roof lining as such, bugger all sound deadining, a shitty thin piece of vinal for floor covering (only in the front) and no center consoles. they don't even have much glass.

the "luxury" pack only weighs 830ish, dads got one

his is fully trimed with roof lining, inside side trims, A/C, center console, heavier seats, stereo and more sound deadining and his still weighs less than 900kgs with half a tank of fuel

SHIFTY5
21st April 2008, 12:18 AM
i just got rid off all my sound deadening, was a p***k of a task but its out now that the important part. i started of using a heat gun and a paint scraper and that was working well but leaving a little t much left over. i then talked to federal and he said he used a hammer and a flat blade screw driver so i used this method and it worked way better than the heat gun. it was coming off in nice big chunks and wasn't leaving so much resin and glue. then to get rid of the lft over crap that was there i went out and bough a brass griding wheel that attaches to and angle grinder and have grinded the remains off and this was the process i used to remove the sound deadning.

cheers jordan

redsprinter
21st April 2008, 12:56 PM
neo where you located .. ill see if i can get a place near ya (ive got two in mind).

driftism
21st April 2008, 01:51 PM
angle grinder with a proper wire wheel attachment is the way to go, i did a whold inner guard which had had extra stone chip painted on with that bitumenised paint. only took about 20 mins to get the whole thing back to metal, and it also works really well for removing the seam sealer so you can spot weld the panels.

make sure you actually get a proper attachment though, as the first one i got was not rated for 10,000rpm and i ended up picking little bits of wire out of my clothes/hair for the next couple of days. :P

SHIFTY5
21st April 2008, 02:14 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (4AGE - 86 @ Apr 21 2008, 12:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=520840)</div>
angle grinder with a proper wire wheel attachment is the way to go, i did a whold inner guard which had had extra stone chip painted on with that bitumenised paint. only took about 20 mins to get the whole thing back to metal, and it also works really well for removing the seam sealer so you can spot weld the panels.

make sure you actually get a proper attachment though, as the first one i got was not rated for 10,000rpm and i ended up picking little bits of wire out of my clothes/hair for the next couple of days. :P[/b]


haha yeah the first one i bought was recommended at 4500rpm and was disintegrating pretty quick, i then purchased a 12000rpm one and its working sweet

ae71neo
22nd April 2008, 04:34 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (redsprinter @ Apr 21 2008, 11:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=520807)</div>
neo where you located .. ill see if i can get a place near ya (ive got two in mind).[/b]

Hawkesbury Heights.