Anthony's ???? powered Coupe

[Anthony]

After some shipping delays my new car has made it to our shores, with big thanks to John (sales@importbitz.com.au) at Import Bitz (http://www.importbitz.com.au) for arranging everything.

It's a kouki trueno coupe with an SR conversion. Not many pics at this stage but here's an idea


http://members.optusnet.com.au/netfiles/car_fr.jpg


http://members.optusnet.com.au/netfiles/clean_sm.JPG



Car runs Cusco coilovers front and rear, standard T diff with a fairly tight LSD, and on the short drive home it was a fair bit of fun.

First work to be done is new upper trailing arms and rear end bushes (they are seriously flogged out), general cleanup/tune, possibly move the engine back and fit anRB box, a new driveway. Oh, and fit the skirts ;) Came with a nice BN and battle mag sticker in the glove box too :) (Thanks Brett for "finding" those :P )

More pics soon....

[ae86levint]

nice machine http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/wink.gif will u be brining it to the next twinspamm dp trackday??

[djscheppy]

yourone lucky person thats hot as!!!!! wish i had the money to import one

[E V A N]

HOLY CRAP DUDE!!!

[Anthony]

Nahh, turbo kit for mx5 will be here on monday so I'll take that again. http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/wink.gif

Going to try and put the trueno on the road next week. Not sure how that will work out. Probably should start with a mufller ( it has none http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/ohmy.gif ).

[chaserjs]

awww sweet

can i have your defi gauges!?!

[nightdevil]

Very nice. By the looks of things a HELL of work has been put into it!

[Medicine_Man]

Looks like a nice car overall, pity about the spaghetti looking wiring job..

[JohnO]

arh i love it

that thing is absolutely beautiful, congrats

[RobertoX]

i cant say i am a fan of sr's but that car is sexy

what is that red coupe next to it?

[Anthony]

Funnily enough that was the only thing that put me off the car too. But I still couldnt resist http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/wink.gif . There is always the prospect of 4AGTE or 3SGTE power down the track. Maybe there'll be an SR conversion available ?? http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/smile.gif

The red coupe is a KE25. In the process of getting a 4AGTE conversion with W58.

[toyoda]

man i really luv the look of this car, its tops

give it a tidy up and it will be so mint

[NickAE86]

yummy...looks hot anth http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/ph34r.gif

[decoyslikecurves]

well.



I just wet myself

[sic86]

Looks like one sweat arse ride. Plenty of gauges to watch. That front bumper looks awesome

Cheers

[slide86]

that is fukin phat man
congratulations on owning an awesome trueno

can i have your rims http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/smile.gif

[ae71neo]

OMG i love that so much. I remember seeing it on Yahoo a little while ago. Congrats dude!

[funkymonkey]

good shit mate! nice to see a quality sprinter come to our shores.

BTW what the dilio with the sideskirt, the door skin's there but the skirt isn't?

[Anthony]

Thanks for the positive comments. The skirts need to be screwed on and as they will probably have to be removed for compliance I havent fitted them yet (they were removed in JP for towing).

The wheels are staying sorry http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

[slide86]

Originally posted by Anthony@Jun 26 2005, 04:03 AM
Thanks for the positive comments. The skirts need to be screwed on and as they will probably have to be removed for compliance I havent fitted them yet (they were removed in JP for towing).

The wheels are staying sorry http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif
owell it was worth a try http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

that bn sports kit is looking so phat on ur car man

will you be using the car at drift meets?
id love to see it in person

[driftae86]

i suppose its ok

... http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

[Little Jon]

thats awesome ant
im jealous

[verm69]

i want it... give it to me... http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/laugh.gif

that looks awsome! i love the black bonet and gold lights, makes it look TOUGH!

dave http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

[Dish]

Looks sweet man. Gauge holder looks a little dodgy though http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif , Kit doesn't look too bad. Sorry if you already said it but what mods are done to the sr? Any power figures?.

-Roy

[Anthony]

The gauge mount is one of the coolest things on the car http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif all aluminium and very ingenious. As for power its close to stock "out of respect for the diff".

[Black_Hachi]

Thats awesome! I saw it on Yahoo aswell, if i didnt have mine already I would have bid on that one!! when will it be on the road?

[seek]

Looking good ant, john told me to come around and have a look at it, guages look good on the crash pad there.............

[DRFTAE86]

any new pics of it all cleaned up and in full view? http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/smile.gif

[.7M.]

Originally posted by DRFTAE86@Jul 2 2005, 10:58 PM
any new pics?
Possibly ones not taken by captain megapixel??
Nah mate, love the car. You deserve to be driving/owning the nicest of hachis

[.wolfwood]

OMG taht is so sexy, love it so elous. mind me asking how much it cost?

[ae71neo]

How is it looking now after last drift night?

[slydar]

the car is currently being repaired whilst ant is in japan, using some parts i donated i might add http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/wink.gif

getting the motor out was fun http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/dry.gif

[slide86]

yeah i heard something happened
anyone care to tell the story

[DRFT - 86]

very nice weapon u have there......... enjoy

[Jusdrifn 86]

mucho respecto!

love it anothony, will we be seeing it on the roads, or is it a dedicated track car?

i love the guage mounts too!!!

[chapl]

Dude that car is so hot. There is nothing else to say!!!!

[mr2drift]

this car was amazing to drift, i was lucky enough for ant to give me 4-5 laps of it at a previous QR drift night prac. even with absoloutly shagged rear end bush's ect, and not very well alligned fromt end, the things possible in it were amazing. Example for fun you could throw it into 4th or even 5th gear on turn 2 and just carry the BIGGEST slides ever through to the dipper, with so much speed, you litterally had to jump on the brakes to slow down for the next corner. Hopefully taking ant in the passenger seat was as much fun for him as it was for me to drive/drift.

[Anthony]

Certainly was, and much was learnt.

The car is currently undergoing a refit and will hopefully be back on the track before the years end. Bigger and better. http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/wink.gif

[GTVAE86]

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/ohmy.gif Thats a sexy beast!!!

Nice I like the 2 door coupe. And a very nice colour, and tough wheels.
More JDM spec sprinters for our shores, now thats what I like to see..

[verm69]

saw it a couple of drift nights ago (first for the year... i think...) and it had to be one of the fastest and loudest cars out of the gates...

my jaw droped i was that in love with it... like this

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/ohmy.gif

hope to see it again soon!

cheers

dave http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

[mosqiton]

Anthony,

U sold the other ones you imported yet?

Ben

[Trizae]

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/biggrin.gif In one of my option2 mags I have an article on your car! Its absolutely insane!

[slide86]

Originally posted by Trizae@Oct 16 2005, 12:59 AM
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/biggrin.gif In one of my option2 mags I have an article on your car! Its absolutely insane!
any chance u could scan it?

[Wally]

holy shit, that is fkn nice!!!

it has more shit on the dash than something that has alot of shit.

[chapl]

i would kill for those wheels!!

i love the look of this car!

[sic86]

That's a similar colour as what I want my car to be spray painted. There goes my idea. So, what's the latest news on it?

Cheers

[Trizae]

Watch this space scanned images soon ;o)

[Anthony]

Im watching. http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/smile.gif A few people have mentioned seeing the car in mags but I havent been lucky enough to see an article as yet.

[EVIL 86]

nice car dude congrats, have u thought about getting the kit moulded? maybe its an idea as theres nothing remotely like it in aus

regards
dave

[sic86]

Can you post up some engine pictures?

Cheers

[RedSuns]

holy crap i need to get my hands on a coupe before they all run out!!!
goddamn i want that!!!!!!!!!

[EVIL 86]

some how i dont think thell be running out just yet but hey thell be ultra collectable in a few years thats for shore(although they are very collectable now) http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/wink.gif

[Anthony]

The SR conversion is now sold, and it's getting a beams altezza 3SGE with 6 speed and blitz turbo kit. Should have some progress pics soon.


The kit is an original BN item, and yes, I have considered having it moulded.

[EVIL 86]

well dude what are u waiting for mould away and u can make some cash on top

[Wally]

cant wait for more pics!!! let me see em!! http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/smile.gif

[TGZ DR10VE]

hey mate very hot and fat, what front bar is that? is it available in sydney?

[sic86]

Originally posted by Anthony@Oct 23 2005, 10:04 PM
The SR conversion is now sold, and it's getting a beams altezza 3SGE with 6 speed and blitz turbo kit. Should have some progress pics soon.


The kit is an original BN item, and yes, I have considered having it moulded.
Sweet as. Im so jealous http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/sad.gif Keep us updated with mods and PICTURES! http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/cool.gif

Cheers

[Kitten-Trueno]

One word AWESOME!!!!!!!!!! Such a bueatiful car.Well Done http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Sorry for digging up an old thread.

[sic86]

Originally posted by Kitten-Trueno@Dec 7 2005, 08:47 PM
One word AWESOME!!!!!!!!!! Such a bueatiful car.Well Done http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Sorry for digging up an old thread.
Your forgiven, since it is such a sweet car

Cheers

[slide86]

will you be driving it on the 18th anthony?

[Anthony]

After a few headaches I managed to register the car so I will be driving out to QR without trailer http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/smile.gif Hopefully wont need a trailer on the way back http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/7/5/4/536981.jpg

Heres a few more pics of the bay and after a wash.


http://members.optusnet.com.au/netfiles/bay_sm.JPG
http://members.optusnet.com.au/netfiles/shiny_sm.JPG
http://members.optusnet.com.au/netfiles/clean_sm.JPG

So will see a few of you on the 18th only its 4AGE powered for now..... http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/ph34r.gif

[slide86]

hot stuff anthony
oh and i was the fella who rang up few days ago asking for ps arms and u took my number and was gonna call back when they arrive.

ill come say hello on the 18th. ill be driving my hachi too

[sic86]

That looks sweet, do you drive it on the road? Do u get attention from the cops?

Cheers

[v-tec]

this car is just pure sex on wheels!

love it

[chapl]

dude i love this car. looks so good.

wish mine was as wide and fat. aaaarrgghhh!

one day.

[rthy]

even tho this is a few months old its still HOT

[.wolfwood]

so dam sexy. so dam low also

[selk]

very nice coupe, hot.... except the eng

[slydar]

haha blast from the past. back yard looksa little differant now.

its actually quite a high ride height. just looks low cos of the kit.

the engine is long gone. there is an altezza motor with a blitz turbo kit in the engine bay right now, may or may not be staying.

[.wolfwood]

itsnt the altezza a tigh fit seen it done before and sump was so clos to the ground ajnd bonnet was touching top of mtor so bonnet needed some supporst cut out of it.

[selk]

1g-fe or 3s-ge ?

[slydar]

no altezzascome with 1gs. theyre IS200s. and i dont think blitz do a turbo kit for the 1gfe either.

its gen 5 3s. and yeah it is sorta tight.

[chapl]

any current pics of car?

[omy]

Yes pic's http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[selk]

yeah a 1gfe would hav been a even tighter fit

[pumpkinking]

im in love!!

i tip my hat to you a fellow coupe owner

[ae86 drifter]

yeah pics biatch

[Little Jon]

hahaha 1gfe
hey ant, theres an idea for your next conversion!

I've seen it and its quite tight...
and furthermore, it may actually need two computers to run it, one for the engine and inlet cam, and one for the exhaust cam...

or did you sort it out ant?

[slydar]

pics arent happening.

[KE70Drifter]

keeping it hush hush are we http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

[selk]

yeah pics biatch[/b]

two ecus....... wow what an engine http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/smile.gif

[bathurst-91]

you bastard.. Ive wanted Work Equip 01's for so long and you get an import which just happens to have them!! perfect.

just out of interest how much was it landed/complied?

[dorikin]

Hot damn!!! That thing is nuts!!

Go the mighty SR http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

[Anthony]

The "mighty" SR is long gone. I'll post some pics of the beams conversion as soon as its at a worthy stage. The 6 speed is very bulky so the firewall and tunnel are going to need some work.

Bathurst, I have new equip 01's coming from Japan - unfortunately not in that size but in the same size as the 03's recently advertised here (15 x 8 -3) expected to cost between 1800 and 1900 a set brand new depending on how customs goes.

[AE71GZE]

Would you consider selling the work pair ..I recently imported a pair ..and cant get another pair ? ..sorry wrong section I know . Pm me if possible . Cheers .

[driftae86]

can we get some more pics of your car anthony?

your car is awesome

[defect]

Yea, thats a bloody hot car

Did it come with a SR?

Why did you ditch the sr?

[slide86]

back in december 05
4age love

[verm69]

hell yes...

i saw you ages ago when it still had the sr in it... fastest and loudest thing out of the gates...

blew me away hey! can't wait to see it with the 3s man

dave http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

[hinricp]

piks of the engine converison???????

[slydar]

i work at Anthonys work shop. where the car lives. the engine is gravity mounted. it is resting on the X-member. there will be no progress for some time.

[Anthony]

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/sad.gif

[slydar]

dont dispair Ant! ol' redy rust-o-rama is ready for some love!

[Anthony]

There is talk of the 2006 hachi annual meet being in Sydney. Hence some progress has been made in getting the new setup.

It now has the new motor in, and the 4.6 Tarago diff is in to handle some Toyota Power.

Beams motors are hard to fit :S sooo tall and the turbo kit doesnt help either, being for altezza and placing the turbo higher than the top cover. Oh well, it was always going to be a challenge. More pics soo hopefully. http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/smile.gif

http://members.optusnet.com.au/netfiles/trueno_build/brace2.JPG

http://members.optusnet.com.au/netfiles/trueno_build/brace3.JPG

http://members.optusnet.com.au/netfiles/trueno_build/diff1.JPG

[aaaaah]

Gonna be awesome when it's done Ant http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tup.gif

The cam gear cover is different...

[slide86]

good to see its coming along
im suprised you could still fit a strut brace on.

[Jason]

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/wub.gif beams

[mc68]

Yea, thats a bloody hot car

Did it come with a SR?

Why did you ditch the sr?[/b]

coz SR's are truck motors and the beams is a work of art http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/2thumbs.gif

top stuff dude...

[Little Jon]

agreed: Beams is a work of art.

[Gilly]

saw this today, it's a tight fit!!!! but looks the goods, Kaizen Garage never seen so many hot 86 parts in one place!!!

[Jason]

yeah deffintaly looks soo much better in person, i went there 2 day as well http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

[marvin]

one word....Respect.....that is a sensational vehicle, I will be very ken to see what power it makes, I have been weighting up either a beams or 3RZ upgrade for my trailer queen, but think for the moment I will persist with the 3SGTE ST205 for the moment, but ken to see updates as they happen

Cheers

[Bensonius]

Hey ant http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/biggrin.gif hows it. Good to see the Beams coming along. Good luck with the trans...bit big for the hachi but hey...who cares http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/biggrin.gif ....anyways will speak to you later in the week..Regards Ray

[OBE353]

damn that is fit http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/wub.gif
good stuff

[Medicine_Man]

Saw this in person the other night in the workshop, It's begging for some love..

[selk]

so just a factory "people mover" diff ?

[Celica RA45]

cant believe you cut the fire wall just to put the crappy 6speed in, the supra 5 speed would have been better and with less hassle and the supra will take more hp than the aisin 6 speed ever will thats my 2 cents good luck with the turbo idea ,will stick with the na version of the beams with 5speed

[Bensonius]

I think Ant knows what he is doing....lol...the six speed will be fine.

[monkeymajik]

cant believe you cut the fire wall just to put the crappy 6speed in, the supra 5 speed would have been better and with less hassle and the supra will take more hp than the aisin 6 speed ever will thats my 2 cents good luck with the turbo idea ,will stick with the na version of the beams with 5speed[/b]


I think it's more about having somthing different rather than a "my gearbox can take more power" contest. There arent many 6-speed sprinters in australia.

[86-Type R]

^^^^^^
'TRUE DAT'

[slydar]

the altezza box runs the same input/output shaft as a W box, and physically its compareable in size. being newer too it would be fair to assume it has to be compareable in strenght.

have you actually ever heard of anyone breaking one glenn?

[StockAE86]

I think it's a known thing the 6 speed is weak compared to the 5 speed.

also same reason some people in s15's swap out the 6 speed for a 5 speed once they have blown it

[Celica RA45]

why not move the engine forward to fit so you dont need the fire wall cut ,better plan all round .the ratios on the 6speed arnt that good being 1st gear 3.874 2nd 2.175 3rd 1.484 4th 1.223 5th 1.000 6th 0.869 my supra has 2.740 1st 1.590 2nd 1.240 3rd 4th is 1.000 with 5th being 0.880 much better ratios even for a turbo ,i just think that the 6speed is a wank factor as the last of the is200 here were changed to 5 speeds because people were complaining about the very short 1st gear ,then the long 2nd gear my 2cents ,you should ask bill sherwood to see what he thinks ,he has 1 in his frasier clubman

[mattysshop]

with the S15 thing.. in the cases i've seen/heard of.. they chose the 5spd box over another 6spd box due to cost, and the ratios in the 5spd are better for some setups...

[Anthony]

Wank factor perhaps - the 6 speed came for free with the motor. The motor and box have less than 20,000 kms on them. I havent seen it done in an 86, although i have recently heard of C & Y doing them (will check it out when im in Nagoya next week http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/smile.gif ).

The motor is that far back for 2 reasons, handling and the fact that if it was any further forward the height would become even more of a problem.

Thanks for your 2 cents though - it's good to hear from someone with experience with this motor. As for gearbox strength - like I said it was free, so if it breaks or 1st gear is too hard to live with (it's a track only car) then I'll fix it http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/wink.gif If you ignore first it's a very close 5 speed with good gating http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/smile.gif

BTW, Aisin make W58's as well.....

[shift_rook]

Gees i am getting Deja Vu http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/ohmy.gif

[Anthony]

lol

[Celica RA45]

so its going to be a drift car or sports sedan then ,certainly not a club car as 1 you cant use a 6speed unless you take 1st out and also you cannot cut the fire wall to get said gear box in and you also have to use a 35mm restrictor as well for said turbo ,but hey it should drift ok

[shift_rook]

so its going to be a drift car or sports sedan then ,certainly not a club car as 1 you cant use a 6speed unless you take 1st out and also you cannot cut the fire wall to get said gear box in and you also have to use a 35mm restrictor as well for said turbo ,but hey it should drift ok[/b]

Why would you use a 35mm restrictor for a FUN track car . If you are talking restrictors you might want to check the rulings as its 36mm http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/rolleyes.gif why any one would want to use a smaller restrictor for a turbo is strange or stupid . Sportsedan are by capacity x the turbo factor so once again running a restrictor is stupid . As for club cars i guess this car will most likely still have interior ? radio etc ? so unlike the countless people which have fully caged striped cars running on club rego , rally rego and towed to the track http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/wink.gif Maybe club level motorsport will be fine for the car running around with all the full race cars that people could race http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/blink.gif due to being equiped to do so but don't have the ball's too so just stay at club level for years and years in a comfort zone in the same club where they think there fast http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/7/5/4/536981.jpg

Good luck Anthony chat on the other forum http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/wink.gif

[Anthony]

yeah it came in to the country as a drift car and it will stay that. I'm aware of the rules governing the 6 speed in motorsport and I am not trying to comply with them at all.

[Celica RA45]

thats ok anthony should be good.
adam if you are turboing a motor that wasnt turboed or modified a motor with turbo in club cars at least you have to run a 36 mm restricter ,so it keeps the fields closer together ,also in club cars you dont need a heater head lining passenger seat etc i just run the passenger seat so i can take passengers around the track from time to time .and i dont care which class im in as long as im having fun and trying to get with in the under 2 litre club car lap records at sandown ,winton and the island etc ,also i cant justify the large cost of doing state rounds etc. ps hows yours going, what times are you doing now at the above tracks in your turbo sprinter

[shift_rook]

thats ok anthony should be good.
adam if you are turboing a motor that wasnt turboed or modified a motor with turbo in club cars at least you have to run a 36 mm restricter ,so it keeps the fields closer together ,also in club cars you dont need a heater head lining passenger seat etc i just run the passenger seat so i can take passengers around the track from time to time .and i dont care which class im in as long as im having fun and trying to get with in the under 2 litre club car lap records at sandown ,winton and the island etc ,also i cant justify the large cost of doing state rounds etc. ps hows yours going, what times are you doing now at the above tracks in your turbo sprinter[/b]

Glen

What happened to the 35mm restrictor . Firstly you talking about racing restrictions http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/rolleyes.gif then you talking about Piarc group 5 club regs that have nothing to do with IPRA 1600-2000cc or Sportsedans 1600-2000cc rules , or anyother turbocharged or supercharged rules that apply to any other club in victoria http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/wtf.gif
What are you trying to say http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/huh.gif you are going for Piarc club 2000cc lap records ? or 2000cc lap records in a racing class like IPRA or Sportsedans or a the main club championship in vic the MSCA ?

If you don't care what class you are in why not race a race car if you look at track time vs money you are getting getting 6 x 5 laps plus a ten minute practice at a club event for depending on club of $150-190 , vs a state weekend with countless hours of driving . Look at a Island Magic run by your club , we had six hours of data loged from last time and there was a one hour race http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/blink.gif And from memory it was less than double the cost of one club day for all three days . Club racing isn't racing http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/ohmy.gif its against the clock and yourself and your time , there is nobody around you racing for sheep stations .

My car is in another stage of build atm and you should know the times are much alike your car for the 150rwkw it used to have http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/wink.gif with a passenger seat and rear seat , stereo , a/c and all the other things you find in a road car . But it might not return to the track since spending lots of time on a 2000cc car that for outright lap records regardless of rules , you might be able to see some pictures on the other 86 forum http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/sad.gif or maybe not since you won't be able to become a member since not owning a 86 http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/7/5/4/536981.jpg

But that too much about things not related to Anthonys car , many since you know so much about this six speed box do a graph of speeds in all gears for him at what rpm point or something more useful than posting about your celica since this is a ae86 site http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/smile.gif

[Celica RA45]

i run my car in under 2 litre modified ,it isnt a ipra car as mine still has head lining passenger seat and heater etc ,also never mentioned about PIARC group 5 at all ,was talking about the lap records for the under 2 litre IPRA at sandown winton and island ,thats what im trying to get close to ,and most of the 5 lap sprints now have about 14 cars on the track at any time ,you just try to find a few v8 and run with them ,like at the last sprint at sandown 2 vweeks ago with ffcc and hscc as well

[shift_rook]

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/wink.gif

i run my car in under 2 litre modified ,it isnt a ipra car as mine still has head lining passenger seat and heater etc ,also never mentioned about PIARC group 5 at all ,was talking about the lap records for the under 2 litre IPRA at sandown winton and island ,thats what im trying to get close to ,and most of the 5 lap sprints now have about 14 cars on the track at any time ,you just try to find a few v8 and run with them ,like at the last sprint at sandown 2 vweeks ago with ffcc and hscc as well[/b]

Once again , you have lost me ? IPRA is lap records under race conditions not just on timed laps . There lap records are not in practice , qualifing or any other sprint tyre event . Basically its under racing and club sprints are not racing once again . So you going to do a 1:25.96, 1:37.69 or 1:50.35 at the island http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/rolleyes.gif its really meaningless due to not being under racing conditions and not even with the same class rules . You might as well compare time with the sportsedans 1:20.095 , 1.03.39 or 1.42.74 at the island or if you going to talk tin tops then the supertouring lap records 1.37.17 at the island 1.00.62 at winton . Cars spaced out at the start with a flying lap is very different to a race with no flying lap and warm up . There is going to be ten laps at least not three laps . Look it's CLUB sprinting and you are in a class with rules that are set by a club , not a racing body like CAMS . If you entered in another CLUB you might find that your car is in a RACING class not a MODIFIED class or like MSCA it just goes by engine capacity regardless of modifications so one could find themself classes in with again 2000cc or whatever capacity classed vehicle x the supercharging turbocharging ruling . Or like the maserati and other clubs with a associate class its just goes by capacity or speed .

Anthony's trueno here might be in one club in 2000-2500cc via a 2000 x 1.25 turbocharging rule , or in another club it might be in 2000 x 1.6 so in 3000-4000cc class , or in clubs like the maserati club it would be classed by speed of the vehicle and like myself regardless of engine size due to the cars speed it get placed in 6000cc+ outright class ie: RACING class cars , MODIFIED class cars where there might even be a ex supertouring car there with a 325hp 2000cc . What chance has any old model toyota be it a Trueno or celica have against that class of car ? none . And since he is building the car for drift even if he was going to enter a CAMS drift event the capacity and type of car , engine , modification doesn't come into any effect that would class the car in some set by ruling limiting factors .

This is all a complete waste of time and you might as well save all your information on CLUB speed events for toymods or Piarc events as it has no data that even closely relates to Anthonys Trueno or any other Ae86 that someone might be researching here . If you post again please maybe bring some information that relates to the six speed transmission and its ratios that you seem to be against in this conversion . Since nodoubt its the first 3sgte beams six speed ae86 full stop ..... Still awaiting those speed in gear charts http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/rolleyes.gif maybe something like this

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/8/4/3/108910.jpg

[tasef]

still arguing the point on internet forums cant waite to drive against u at wakefeild if that datsun poo of yours is ready.

lol.

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/wink.gif

[Celica RA45]

maybe 1more year of club sprints log book car for ipra as it will pass to run in it and go for my GC again ,its been about 25 odd years last time i was running in club cars but hey who knows ,thats how most of us started except it was 1 car at a time back when i started lap dashes in 79

[xero]

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/wtf.gif

wheres turbo beams? what hell is going on? its like im living in a cukoo clock...

[biggo]

other forum?

..ghey

Nice car but!

[mattysshop]

got to love that gear spacing... specially 3rd - 4th.. with a bit of boost in my mates IS200 it really responds good.. it's only making 200rwhp from the 1G FTE http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/wink.gif the box feels perfect.. loving it, clutch burntitself in 2 days though with the increased torque.. but is great now with just a rebuild and some extra clamping pressure..

[Anthony]

Well I was lucky enough to drop in to C and Y last night and got a few pics of one of their customers cars (and heaps of other cool shit). They had beams in an 86 and a te27 (mango). the 86 was pushing out 600hp through a hks dog box. The young mechanic there (their wiring guru - we had a good chat when possible) was pretty helpful but said i should expect no more than 300 safe horsepower from my setup. as well as the new trans their car has totally new internals including 304 deg cams and deleted vvt-i.

anyway here are some pics - they modded the pan heavily and its still way down there...

http://members.optusnet.com.au/netfiles/jp_pics/cybeams1.JPG

http://members.optusnet.com.au/netfiles/jp_pics/cybeams2.JPG

a couple more randompics...

shanes new rear wheels 15 x 8 and about 10 bucks each - see anything?

http://members.optusnet.com.au/netfiles/jp_pics/sixstud.JPG

the car park at a jzx81 day

http://members.optusnet.com.au/netfiles/jp_pics/jzx81.JPG

and another 600hp beast at c and y - this time a gen 3 powered ke70.

http://members.optusnet.com.au/netfiles/jp_pics/se70.JPG

http://members.optusnet.com.au/netfiles/jp_pics/se70b.JPG

[Gilly]

Hilux diff? the rims look very 4x4 style!!

[marvin]

go the six stud rear end!!!

[Dxaqta]

where did he get the widebody for the coupe from???? i want.... i want.... i want.......

[.wolfwood]

6 stud NICE

[Peter]

6 Stud.. Awesome.

That KE-70 would go alright i imagine. Sheesh. Cool pics.

[MAT713]

is that shane binghams 86? haha tuff as! still got the coil overs tho with the new diff?

[OBE353]

damn there is some phat ass rides in this thread http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/wub.gif

[Anthony]

hah no a custom 4 to 6 pcd changer. took some convincing on the old jap engineer dudes....

[Gilly]

^^^^ shit just assumed it ran a hilux rear. makes some sense though as all those 4x4 rims have decent offsets and widths and would have to be a shitload cheaper than 86 mags.

(gets out phone book to find local engineering shop and fourby wreckers)

[Rakurai]

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/2thumbs.gif omg thats the nicest car ever man, that is the perfect example of what i (and im sure soooo many other people want)

[Bensonius]

Ahh ant, you lucky bugger...C&Y certainly pump out some VERY nice work..makes jags car look like it needs a bigger turbo bro. especially after seeing the Gen3 SE70

[rick q]

bloody sweet as car. its bloody show room style http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

Grommet

[green_boy_91]

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/ohmy.gif i no im a bit late to say this and i no you'v heard this alot but i so luve that car lol,
man hope its bin good for ya http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/2thumbs.gif

[D-limo]

Seriously one of the hottest cars in the country... Love all of it. 3SGTE goodness.. I wanna touch it... bad

[HYPNTK]

is the beams engine much heavier than a 4agze?
is it lighter than an SR?

anyone know?

[Anthony]

After hearing that Andy from Adaptronic was coming up to Brisbane and wanted to test the closed loop VVT control code I had to make some more progress on the car.

So in 3 days it went from a car with a bare engine sitting in the bay with no diff, shaft, inlet, wiring, exhaust or suspension to a dyno ready test bed...

Early work on the inlet, the factory runners were retained...

http://members.optusnet.com.au/netfiles/trueno_build/inlet2.JPG

The finished inlet... bit of a rush job..

http://members.optusnet.com.au/netfiles/trueno_build/inlet3.JPG

http://members.optusnet.com.au/netfiles/trueno_build/brakes1.JPG

The corona mark 2 "F" diff with brackets tacked and 4.3 gears fitted...

http://members.optusnet.com.au/netfiles/trueno_build/diff2.JPG

As for wiring, being only needed on the dyno at this stage, it was kept simple http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/wink.gif 3 wires to run the car. The latest version Adaptronic ECU with prototype TFT gauge screen and a wide band AFR unit.

http://members.optusnet.com.au/netfiles/trueno_build/wiring1.JPG

http://members.optusnet.com.au/netfiles/trueno_build/electronics1.JPG

Heres the running engine (NA only at this stage to keep cam testing simple) with a 20V rad for now.

http://members.optusnet.com.au/netfiles/trueno_build/engine_in.JPG

Andy tested the cam control systems on the car all day thursday and after studying the behaviour a bit got some nice settings. They're quite tricky to control with a duty cycle of 61% giving no movement at idle and only 67-68% giving full deflection (approx 55 crank degrees of advance !!!)

Closed loop control is essential as a small application of oil pressure moves the cam but then it has to be backed right off to maintain that position.

Another interesting note is that the exh cam actually retards with the application of oil pressure, which explains its vastly different shape to the inlet pulley..

On the dyno, the engine performed very well. peak inlet advance was found to be need at about 5000-5500 rpm then tapering the inlet back off works well. (this correlates to the 20Vs behaviour). Exh cam movement was less effective with only 10 degrees of retardation being applied.

The engine achieved good power figures right through the rev range with flat torque from 4000 upwards. (3150 N of tractive effort with a 4.3 diff and 195/50R15s, equates to approximately 220Nm).

Unfortunately the drive shaft let go at this point (which was an expreience in itself) so testing stopped. Note that fuel hadnt been tuned at this stage, neither had ignition. Both had been set to safe figures so as to setoptimal cam timing settings. The AFR was under 12 when it made the 128kW so its a very promising engine. I drove it pre dyno up and down the street and it felt very nice, even with NO cam control whatsoever.

Next step is to finish off the interior properly etc and get it legally on the road, and a new tail shaft of course...

[Brenton 86]

Geez, i just stumbled through that but i think i got the jist of it.

[Gilly]

looks like english but i don't know what the f*@k you are talking about!!

good to see the dust blown of "Goldy" anyway!

geez you boys are smart, i'll be down later in the week to ask you some very unstimulating run of the mill loom questions, promise to not drool on the floors this time. soooo many Hachi parts and cars in in various level's of hotness

[SR20_AE86]

nice work ant, good to see it "semi" running.

[Anthony]

"Whoah, slow down egghead" yeah sorry for the lecture. Thought I would include some idea of what we're going through for those who may happen to interested/bothered comprehending it http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/smile.gif

Oh, and also to display the amazing capabilities of Adaptronic ECU's as you have to spend a lot of money elsewhere to find an ECU that can control two infinitely variable cams. http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/wink.gif

[RB20DET_Silvia]

Will be good to see this drifting at our drift day coming up!!!

- Luke

[mattysshop]

you going NA now?? looks good! nice power considering all that too! 128kw! i know it's short of it's full potential, but time will tell...

[JDM86]

Nice Work!! Congrats Ant..... YOU WIN!! LOL http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

[xero]

its all a bit mumbo jumbo-ish... but it sorta makes sense...

damn ant, even jesus will say "JESUS!!" when he hears this thing coming...

[Jason]

fuk yes http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/2thumbs.gif

matty
Heres the running engine (NA only at this stage to keep cam testing simple) with a 20V rad for now.[/b]

really like the digital dash, some ideas for next project http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

[mattysshop]

hehe my bad, i was looking at the pics too much i spose..

[Anthony]

The car is booked to have second stage tuning (with an upgraded tail shaft) done this week. SO, some progress pics, albeit slight.

The diff has been out, had the new TRD 2 way fitted, pinion angle corrected, traction brackets added (which also corrected said angle) and sway bar brackets. These had to be made from scratch as the 86 bar was fouing on the F housing.

http://www.kaizengarage.com/goldie/traction1.JPG

http://www.kaizengarage.com/goldie/swaybar1.JPG

http://www.kaizengarage.com/goldie/swaybar2.JPG

http://www.kaizengarage.com/goldie/diffhousing.JPG

The firewall was next. This had been cut and bashed previously but sonce the engine position was finalised, a complete second 86 section was used to give it the factory look (well once painted anyway)

http://www.kaizengarage.com/goldie/tunnel1.JPG

Some new rackends I picked up in JP (incorporated magic washers for those that dont know - more lock http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/smile.gif )
http://www.kaizengarage.com/goldie/urasrackend.JPG

The lock with these and PS arms is probably too much for 15s anyway.

http://www.kaizengarage.com/goldie/lock1.JPG

The car is getting a bit more interior attention this time. A hydraulic handbrake (the detonating tailshaft really made this an easier decision, its a mess under there!), and a new shifter shroud in the works, thanks to Brett here. sheet metal whiz. Also, the defis are almost back in. The extent of the tunnel edit can be seen as well. Didnt have to come back as far as I thought - thank God !

http://www.kaizengarage.com/goldie/shifter3.JPG

Rear rims are on. Ex MR2Drift with powder coated centres. Charcoal is apparently blacker than I thought... Probably need spacers to get them where I wanted which sucks. Corona Mark 2 diff isnt quite as wide as i thought.

http://www.kaizengarage.com/goldie/rearwheel1.JPG


Well theres still heaps to do, but at least I know the engine runs fine and the car has driven previously.

[madnzer]

nice gauge bracket mate... neat work. http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/smile.gif is it getting panelled up, or are you leaving the frame of it bare?


and the ex 'mr2drift' as in 'mr2'? isnt the corolla's studpattern 4X114.3? (not X100)

anyway, car is looking grouse http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[DRFT - 86]

quality effort going on here............. awesome work...

[mc68]

Mr2drift = Josh's car.

[Anthony]

The gauge bracket was done in Japan but glad you like it http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/smile.gif

It'll pretty much be staying as is. did have the 4th gauge out to the left and a monster taco but I moved the gauge inboard and the tach is going inside binnacle, along with an rsm as a speedo.

[driftke70]

55 degrees of advance is absolutely ridiculous

[psychofox]

55 degrees of advance is absolutely ridiculous[/b]
The 55 degrees is in reference to cam position - as the BEAMS engine has infinitely variable VVT on the inlet and exhaust cam. So no that is not ridiculous.

Car is Looking good Anthony. what is the actual width of the MK2 Corona Diff?

[Anthony]

Dont forget thats crank degrees as well.

I'll have to get the tape out again but from how the wheels worked out you can bet on it being 20mm wider overall than ae86 give or take 5 mm.

[driftke70]

when i say ridiculous i mean fricken sweet. the amount of potential tuning ability you gain from floating cams is awesome.

[Anthony]

Dynoed the car today. Still some work to do with the cam control gains but it recorded a healthy 130kW at the wheels (dyno dynamics shoutout mode).

Fairly impressive for an NA 2 litre and still more to go (ok, not a lot more but more).
Had a quick blat up the street after it came off the tilt tray, motor flet very nice and almost more importantly, all the tramp and bad feeling in the rear end is cured.. http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/smile.gif

[DRFT - 86]

very nice........

[matt mead]

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/2thumbs.gif shit your rich!

[rick q]

shit this thing is hot. i love it

[Gilly]

this car is so hot the police should lock it up until monday.......

[MINIHORSE]

would you like to sell these wheels??

[slide86]

http://image-cache.boostcruising.com/database/journal/files/post-14860-11696800601395370745.jpg

[Gilly]

i got msn'ed that pic last night

fkn insane looking now, looks unreal stickered too

[Bustin_86]

dats hawt!

[44GTE]

Looking Good Ant

Be down to see yah soon

Cheers

[chapl]

oh.... my

PROPS man

looks the shit!

[sprinters_r_mad]

fucking hell that car looks SICK!!!!!!! http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/2thumbs.gif

its now my desktop background hehehe http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/2thumbs.gif

good work man http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/2thumbs.gif

[MINIHORSE]

really really wanta those wheels, the equips that is,
you sell i buy, seriously!!!

[Stuck]

Demand more pictures!

[Andrew]

Looked and sounded hot out at Stadium Drift. Absolutely loved it.

[slide86]

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/biggrin.gif

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/8/4/3/128073.jpg

[ae86hachiroku]

dunno if its been said yet, but i have a drift paradise dvd with your car when it was previously owned in japan.. being slided around a tight track. i was like hmm looks familiar http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/smile.gif

[Anthony]

Only a magazine feature has been mentioned directly. Obviously I would be really really interested in seeing that. Hmm, can u copy? or at least can u supply issue number? Many thanks! http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/smile.gif

[drew86]

Hey i have the magazine that your car was in at home ill take a picture and post it up on the weekend

[japlish]

Only a magazine feature has been mentioned directly. Obviously I would be really really interested in seeing that. Hmm, can u copy? or at least can u supply issue number? Many thanks! http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/smile.gif[/b]

paint the pop up head lights gold again. New sticker work looks good though.

[dr.occa]

beautiful car!

[driftke70]

lookin tops, hopefully will see it in the flesh tomorrow or friday.

[ninjadrift]

What a fucking mentle car! Awesome!

[Anthony]

paint the pop up head lights gold again. New sticker work looks good though.[/b]

Yeah havent painted anything yet after two collisions. I'm just getting away with what I can before it gets full paint inside, bay and out.

Anyway, some updates and pics from the numerous recent outings....


We've had the car out to some more events and everythings going fairly well with it. It's nice to get through 3 or 4 outings and just turn the key and drive the car each time.

Shane and I have both been driving it. Recently Shane took first place in it (in conjunction with Mumblezz) at the "Super Sunday Drift Pairs" event. There were only 3 toyotas at this 22car event and all 3 were on the podium http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/smile.gif a couple of pics...

http://image-cache.boostcruising.com/database/journal/files/post-615-11723933281845091174.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/8/4/3/133135.jpg

Then the car went to a trial event at an old go kart track at Archerfield. A 5 min drive from the workshop - sweet. Shane and I double entered the car so it got a good workout. This tight technical course was hachi territory and I learnt a fair bit more about the car and driveline. Some pics of course...

My fave with me at the wheel.
http://www.skidmanphotography.com/gallery/gallery2/g2data/albums/Option%201%20Garage%20-%20Archerfield%20Drift%20Demo%202007/8.jpg

The stickers looked great under lights/flashes. Shane at the wheel. The tyres everywhere were hard on the kit.

http://www.skidmanphotography.com/gallery/gallery2/g2data/albums/Option%201%20Garage%20-%20Archerfield%20Drift%20Demo%202007/30.jpg

Last thurs I took the car out to a private practice day at QR. Got heaps of time and thought I had found a major problem. Turns out I had gone through about 40 litres of fuel (a lot of driving) and it was just fuel surge.

Today I entered the car in round one of the QLD drift championships at QLD raceway. I took what I'd learnt at the go kart track as well as thurs afternoon and managed to qualify in the Group A top 16. Doesnt sound that impressive but I can tell it was quite surreal to be out at the start line in that group of cars I'm used to watching at the end of an event. I was eliminated by one point in my first battle by the man who went on to get 3rd in the comp.

Needless to say I'm very happy with that result.

Last pics I promise...

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/9808/toxindriftcopy12hn9.jpg

http://image-cache.boostcruising.com/database/journal/files/post-1120-1173009620994232577.jpg

Now just contemplating the turbo kit... or maybe TRD throttles etc. http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/smile.gif

[..MeZ..]

awsome car..............will you/your car be going in the stadium drift coming up on the 24th?

[v-tec]

The car makes a hot sound Ant, im dead set in love with the car
Im still keen to battle you sometime mate, however, i figure my car will be shadowed in supreme japanese hotness lol

[.wolfwood]

car looks sexy as, those stickers look mad irl aswell...

[Jonny Rochester]

Im not sure about the numberplate and tow hook. Just a bit too crazy for me... Otherwise well done.

I want to see 300hp N/A.

[Kerryx]

yeah man.. Saw you at archerfield and on sunday arvo, really impressive and the car is porn. Good to see it coming along so nicely aswell as your driving skills http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/biggrin.gif congrats

[timottaway]

Many congrats to Ant for his top 16 placing in 1st Round of QLD Driftstate!

[slide86]

great driving on the weekend ant!
getting more time in the car and its paying off.

fuk that car is quick! http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

[slide86]

is that anthony actually driving orrr?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxGzw6qP-EY

you bet your ass it is http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/laugh.gif

[Anthony]

Quick update...

Goldie is currently getting a few upgrades, an 8 point cage and a turbo kit. Will put some progress pics up as the work is done. Should be an animal when it's ready.

We slapped a temporary car together out of an ADM shell I had laying around so I could keep driving. It's turned out to be a fairly sweet car, so sweet that Josh thought he should take it to Dirft Australia at Eastern Creek. A couple of pics but I'll do a buildup thread of this car soon...

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/8/4/3/151443.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/8/4/3/151444.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/8/4/3/151445.jpg

[stouty]

Looks sweet man can't wait for the write up on it.

[electric mic]

Same, I also hope to be able to understand half of the technical info.

Even though I don't understand it, I still enjoy reading it and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

[Peter]

I saw a pic of this thing a little while ago, I was wondering where josh picked it up from.

[samoo]

yeah man I love the "kaizen garage" stickers probly the best design on aussie drift cars

[hilton]

holy shit thats soooo hot!!!!!!! omg

[Gilly]

Craig was telling me about this rig and it's ummm "quick" build and unsuccessful first outing :P (thermal incident)

looks good now you got it all sorted!! keen to see some specs, should be pretty hot given the resources you have ;)

[obey wan boenny]

yeah (y) , who designed the graphics for the Kaizen Garage cars?

[Anthony]

Yeah all the stickers have worked out really well. Although they're a bitch to put on ;)

The logo was designed by Garth @ digitalfunk and the sticker treatment by Martin and Garth @ digitalfunk.

free plug :2thumbs: www.digitalfunk.net (http://www.digitalfunk.net)

Martin is the sticker man and he's currently finishing up a huge EU vacation. When he returns he should be setting up a new graphics/design business, hopefully under the Kaizen Garage roof :)

[obey wan boenny]

sweet as, they suit the cars perfectly

[dr1ft-pig]

looks good, whats under the bonnet?

[Anthony]

It's a 4AGZE with HKS turbo kit. 2835 or a T04B not too sure but it's a pretty sweet kit. Big axle LSD but still only a T-50.

[dr1ft-pig]

ohh I don't like the sound of that t50 lol, how long till your rebuilding that 1 lol they don't hold up to much punishment, the rest seems a great setup though

[dr1ft-pig]

do u still have all of the pics from your conversion ant????

would love to get a hold of them as I'm doing this same conversion fairly soon

sent u a pm anyway

[Anthony]

So due to a lack of time and money, I'm taking the hard step of parting this car out and commencing a ground up rebuild. The turbo beams motor package will be sold soon with mounts and crossmembers etc. Details TBA in the Kaizen Garage section. Most other parts will be sold to fund the buildup, all the wheels are gone already :)

Seems like a backwards step but I was stuck between needing to do work to the car to keep drifting it (it pretty much didnt get touched in 16 months of constant use) but not having the time or money to do it the way I wanted to. So I'd rather cut it back, raise the funds and then redo things how I want as I can afford to.

The good part is, in terms of getting the workshop known and showing what we and Adaptronic can do, the car has been a huge success so I'm happy with that!

I'll try and document the rebuild in this thread. Don't think I'll be able to retake the most viewed title back from Medwin though - unless I start bumping my members ride thread like old mate :greenbounce:

Anyway the new motor is already in stock. No real suprise when when you see it in the bay hopefully within a few weeks. It's Toyota of course, and also has VVT-i to keep the Adaptronic workload up a bit. To the best of my (google) knowledge it may be a world first for an 86 too... more soon....

[70XIN]

Jesus, fairly big step there indeed .... its for the best though, business comes first!

Goodluck with the new engine, i have some ideas, but not going to go yelling it about ;) :)

[verm69]

ah! the suspense!

looking forward to seeing what your going to do ant :2thumbs:

[dr1ft-pig]

sorry to hear your stripping this rig ant

although this will save me alot of effort

i have sent you a PM in reguards to this

cheers


p.s. looking forward to another kaizen garage creation :2thumbs:

[steroidchickens]

:blink:

are you still going to be drifting in the meantime?

[AsleepAtTheWheel]

2ZZ-GE + turbo is my guess... :2thumbs:

I am thinking about this further... I wonder what box choice would go with this? Custom bellhousing to W-series? :D

[ae71neo]

lol exactly what i was thinking, 2zz.

[orange32]

I remember seeing a lonely 1JZ last time i was at kaizen....

2zz would be awesome

[howee]

Oath^^

good luck with it ants.

howee

[86xxx]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Anthony @ Mar 11 2008, 03:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=500237)</div>
Don't think I'll be able to retake the most viewed title back from Medwin though - unless I start bumping my members ride thread like old mate :greenbounce:[/b]

(Edited after apology to ant for misinterpretting his post.) can't wait to see this latest engine swap, something different will be pleasent to watch be completed. Good luck ant.

[MARKE70]

lol at medwin your the coolest human ever!!!!

sad to hear Ant i just love this thing at events its great to watch, awesome to hear and even better to battle hehehehe.

But your obviously doing it for the right reasons, and the outcome will of course be crazy good,

will be watching this thread closely

[Anthony]

A bit sensitive on that topic med? I was actually referring to a recent new members ride where they guy bumped his build thread second post before someone politely told him yo don't need to do that :)

Sorry you felt you had to retaliate against nothing. I was just having a laugh with it - obvisouly if page views matter to me I'd would have updated it a few times in the last 6 months :)

Won't be driving for a while Brad :( Need a break financially, been waiting for a gap in events but there isnt really one.

Yes 2ZZ + T is the long term plan.

[slydar]

NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT

[driftke70]

indeed, good to see your still keen on the old girl, things fall together, where theres a will theres a way, will be good to see her out and battle it again. Good luck with your build and look forward to seeing the results.

Medwin, theres a time and a place, yours is not on this forum.

[Ke70alex]

man if id known about all this secrecy and cloak and daggers i woulda paid more attention when i visited last night

good luck fela hope all goes north for ya :2thumbs:






ps i think i fixed the car and i will NEVER tell of my stupidness that led to the car not driving for 3 months <_<

[Anthony]

Actually medwin, just to add... I laughed it off at first but since you've attacked the build of the car (for absolutely no reason I might add) I'd like to point out that in 16 months, over 30 events, where the car was driven in the manner it was built for, the car suffered no mechanical breakages, won state level drift comps, won dyno comps and basically just worked again and again.

Thats with pretty much all the fabrication, wiring, setting up and tuning done inhouse.

[harrygat69]

sorry to hear ur not gona go with the turbo 3s anymore...
this car has always been one of my favourites since the first time i saw a pic of it
good luck with the new engine of choice I'm sure the car will look and perform as good as always :2thumbs:

.... i wouldve liked first dibs on the old work wheels tho :P

[Robo86]

ahh i love goldie
puts a smile on my dial hahah

[Anthony]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (3sGTE_AE86 @ Mar 11 2008, 10:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=500576)</div>
sorry to hear ur not gona go with the turbo 3s anymore...
this car has always been one of my favourites since the first time i saw a pic of it
good luck with the new engine of choice I'm sure the car will look and perform as good as always :2thumbs:

.... i wouldve liked first dibs on the old work wheels tho :P[/b]

Haha sorry the Works sold ages ago.. Can get them new though.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Robo86 @ Mar 11 2008, 10:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=500578)</div>
ahh i love goldie
puts a smile on my dial hahah[/b]

thanks rob :)

[v-tec]

Awesome to hear your doing a ground up for this car Ant, the thing is awesome as is. I can only imagine it will be a remarkable build once you get underway.

2zzge would be an aweseome motor, id acutally really love to see the outcome of this as i had plans about 4 years ago to do this to an ae86, obviously it never happened lol.

Good luck with it all!

[riojin]

ive heard nothing but bad news for turboing a 2zz. the supercharger version is apparently very safe because the lift kicks in after the supercharger switches off. this is so the lift bolts don't break as easily as they would with it on during lift or when turbo'd.

but the lift isnt very apparent when doing this however. feels like a smooth transition

2zz = win

[Beau]

i PM my lover from another state and no reply! you make me unhappy!

[Anthony]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (riojin @ Mar 12 2008, 02:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=500832)</div>
ive heard nothing but bad news for turboing a 2zz. the supercharger version is apparently very safe because the lift kicks in after the supercharger switches off. this is so the lift bolts don't break as easily as they would with it on during lift or when turbo'd.

but the lift isnt very apparent when doing this however. feels like a smooth transition

2zz = win[/b]

don't really see how that's possible. Firstly if you look at the valve train, boost has absolutely no effect on the variable lift system. This is supported by the fact that neither the blitz nor greddy supercharger systems for these motors switch off before the lift changeover point. I appreciate your input, just not sure where your info comes from. :)

Theres a great SAE engineering report written by the three designers off the 2ZZGE, quite frank as it openly discusses the compromises and drawbacks of the finished design.


Beau, I'm going to return your love letter now. I was out of the paper with the doves on it... :(

[PuGZoR]

*thinks he remembers discussing turbo'ing a 2ZZ with Ant yonks ago, saying he'd heard bad things, and consequently got shot down by Ant*

*shrugs*

Looking forward to seeing the logs mate, can understand why you won't be at Brendo's day on the 20th now...

[Driftspec]

Sad to see the 3SGTE go mate, but mega keen to see the 2ZZ conversion happen. I know a few people discussed a little while ago, its great to see someone take an idea from left-field and run with it. Add me to the list of people who can't wait to see the buildup, tech info and the final product :2thumbs:

But I take it you'll keep the same car, jsut with a different engine package? I hope so, or at least keep the paint the same :D

[dr1ft-pig]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (driftspec @ Mar 13 2008, 01:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=501304)</div>
Sad to see the 3SGTE go mate, but mega keen to see the 2ZZ conversion happen. I know a few people discussed a little while ago, its great to see someone take an idea from left-field and run with it. Add me to the list of people who can't wait to see the buildup, tech info and the final product :2thumbs:

But I take it you'll keep the same car, jsut with a different engine package? I hope so, or at least keep the paint the same :D[/b]


the 3sg-e isnt going far :P

its going into my car

[Anthony]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (driftspec @ Mar 13 2008, 12:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=501304)</div>
Sad to see the 3SGTE go mate, but mega keen to see the 2ZZ conversion happen. I know a few people discussed a little while ago, its great to see someone take an idea from left-field and run with it. Add me to the list of people who can't wait to see the buildup, tech info and the final product :2thumbs:

But I take it you'll keep the same car, jsut with a different engine package? I hope so, or at least keep the paint the same :D[/b]

Yeah same car.. but rebuilt as a Levin with a view to being a street/archy car only. Looking at a new car down the track for full track (QR) duties.

Trying to redo the whole car so new wheels and probably new paint/kit as well :(

[driftke70]

toyota revised the bolt that was braking and they are now available from toyota

boost away my friend.

[Beau]

I know why you are doing this Ant because you promised me a drive of this Billy Kart of a car, and you know that it is 3sge state it was not good enough for the likes of a Club Charles King so youve had to improve it! tell me what style of chandalier are you going with and how will you mount the brandy and cigar holder

[caksev]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (riojin @ Mar 12 2008, 03:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=500832)</div>
ive heard nothing but bad news for turboing a 2zz.[/b]

really from whom ? there are many many many successfully turboed 2zz's ..... and any of the ones that have gone wrong it has been due to the same reasons that any other turbo cars screws up.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (riojin @ Mar 12 2008, 03:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=500832)</div>
the supercharger version is apparently very safe because the lift kicks in after the supercharger switches off.[/b]

not true as the supercharger in all the kits that are available doesnt just "switch off"

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (riojin @ Mar 12 2008, 03:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=500832)</div>
this is so the lift bolts don't break as easily as they would with it on during lift or when turbo'd.[/b]

n/a celica's were breaking their lift bolts ........ nothing to do with going turbo ..... simply a design flaw on toyota's behalf ...... the last 2 revisions of the 2zz which went into the last of the celica and the sportivo corolla saw this issue rectified

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (riojin @ Mar 12 2008, 03:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=500832)</div>
2zz = win[/b] :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: totally agree with u there ..... lol

for the OP love your work and good luck with it ...... can't wait to see a finished product ...... i know exactly all about what ur about 2 go through ;) ;) ;) ;)

check it out for urself:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7Umsl6dgPc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR3NfHrCruw

[KE70briskev]

fark yeah just watch that clip 2zz FTMFW

[frootloop86]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xoom @ Mar 29 2008, 07:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=509884)</div>
really from whom ? there are many many many successfully turboed 2zz's ..... and any of the ones that have gone wrong it has been due to the same reasons that any other turbo cars screws up.



not true as the supercharger in all the kits that are available doesnt just "switch off"



n/a celica's were breaking their lift bolts ........ nothing to do with going turbo ..... simply a design flaw on toyota's behalf ...... the last 2 revisions of the 2zz which went into the last of the celica and the sportivo corolla saw this issue rectified

:2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: totally agree with u there ..... lol

for the OP love your work and good luck with it ...... can't wait to see a finished product ...... i know exactly all about what ur about 2 go through ;) ;) ;) ;)

check it out for urself:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7Umsl6dgPc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR3NfHrCruw[/b]

haha bill is that u its Kyle

[Driftspec]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Anthony @ Mar 13 2008, 11:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=501423)</div>
Yeah same car.. but rebuilt as a Levin with a view to being a street/archy car only. Looking at a new car down the track for full track (QR) duties.

Trying to redo the whole car so new wheels and probably new paint/kit as well :([/b]

Great work mate. I love the idea of an awesome street/drift car, and knowing what you can do with a car this thing is going to be nuts :)

[Anthony]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xoom @ Mar 29 2008, 06:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=509884)</div>
:2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: totally agree with u there ..... lol

for the OP love your work and good luck with it ...... can't wait to see a finished product ...... i know exactly all about what ur about 2 go through ;) ;) ;) ;)

check it out for urself:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7Umsl6dgPc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR3NfHrCruw[/b]


Nice results mate, welcome to the AE86DC. What boost are you running for that power? How built is the motor?

[caksev]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (frootloop86 @ Mar 30 2008, 10:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=510020)</div>
haha bill is that u its Kyle[/b]

yeah mate its me :P .... wen is ur car going to be finished ? :P

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Anthony @ Mar 30 2008, 02:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=510126)</div>
Nice results mate, welcome to the AE86DC. What boost are you running for that power? How built is the motor?[/b]

thanks mate ...... that power was achieved @ 21psi of boost and the motor has pretty much had everything u can throw at it thrown into it ..... more pics and details can be found here http://au.toyotaownersclub.com/forums/inde...?showtopic=7291 (http://au.toyotaownersclub.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=7291)

[Anthony]

Well D.A. got me interested again, and the workshop move is pretty much complete so I decided to spend an hour or two tonight investigating this new motor a bit more. I'll post some pics of what I found out. basically just deaccessorised the motor, checked out the manifolds and water situation.

The motor as it sat in my garage. It's a japanese built Celica ZR motor so it's the most reliable version unlike the locally delivered corolla sportivo motors. I've already checked the lift bolts etc and all seems fine.

http://www.kaizengarage.com/images/goldie/zz/CIMG1545.JPG

goldie looking a bit sad.

http://www.kaizengarage.com/images/goldie/zz/CIMG1547.JPG

Front of motor detailing drivebelt layout. Culling accessories is always a fun part.

http://www.kaizengarage.com/images/goldie/zz/CIMG1549.JPG

top cover off. You can see the vvti pulley on inlet only, massive bearing caps and a normal and high lift lobe for each pair of valves.

http://www.kaizengarage.com/images/goldie/zz/CIMG1551.JPG
http://www.kaizengarage.com/images/goldie/zz/CIMG1552.JPG

Funky drivebelt tensioner.

http://www.kaizengarage.com/images/goldie/zz/CIMG1553.JPG

Inside the top cover you can see the overhead oiling for the VVTL-i valvetrain. Nice and clean for whats meant to be 140,000kms.

http://www.kaizengarage.com/images/goldie/zz/CIMG1554.JPG
http://www.kaizengarage.com/images/goldie/zz/CIMG1555.JPG

This is the lift solenoid body. It has an oil pressure switch and the actuation solenoid itself. If the ecu sees insufficient oil pressure to successful move the lift rails it wont attempt it. Also shown is the familiar 4-1 vvt trigger (as per the beams3S) and the rear of the head where the lift actuation housing goes. Also notice welsh plugs in what must be very hollow cams.

http://www.kaizengarage.com/images/goldie/zz/CIMG1560.JPG
http://www.kaizengarage.com/images/goldie/zz/CIMG1561.JPG
http://www.kaizengarage.com/images/goldie/zz/CIMG1562.JPG

Just under the lift housing is where all the water outlets reside. throttle body, heater and radiator are supplied from here. They all face out the back of the head and theres no housing - its part of the head, this is one of the challenges ahead.

http://www.kaizengarage.com/images/goldie/zz/CIMG1564.JPG

These motors run a very generous throttle body by Toyotas standards (66mm at the outlet). The plenum is also huge at over 4 litres with cast bellmouths for the runners. Unfortunately I will probably use very little of this as its a bit hard to work with for FR layout.

http://www.kaizengarage.com/images/goldie/zz/CIMG1565.JPG
http://www.kaizengarage.com/images/goldie/zz/CIMG1566.JPG
http://www.kaizengarage.com/images/goldie/zz/CIMG1567.JPG

The inlet ports are a sensible size, and slope straight down to the valves nicely - much like the beams and 20V motors.

http://www.kaizengarage.com/images/goldie/zz/CIMG1570.JPG
http://www.kaizengarage.com/images/goldie/zz/CIMG1573.JPG

Another look at the accessories. I'm pretty sure I'm going to ditch ps and ac, put the alt where the ps was and change the water pump pulley from flat backed to 6 rib so the belt can run the other way on it. I'll then have a simpler setup and keep the tensioner. I'll order a new water pump while I'm at it.

http://www.kaizengarage.com/images/goldie/zz/CIMG1574.JPG

Here it is with a few more things off it. starts to resemble a normal motor. :)

http://www.kaizengarage.com/images/goldie/zz/CIMG1578.JPG


Next step is to trace out the gearbox adapter plate. looks like a 1G bellhousing will be the best starting point.

[slide86]

so how does the lift actuation soleniod work? i know it uses oil pressure, but what does it act on to 'engage' the high lift lobe

ive only driven one of these celicas and never lifted the bonnet, so not too sure on the mechanicals....

also, does this mean aftermarket ECU is out of the question? or can you get an adaptronic to work the VVTiL ;)

[Anthony]

Yeah the adaptronic can do it. The lift is just an rpm switch like vvt on a 20V, very simple. It cuts in at 6000rpm from on factory ecus. As for the VVTi part, it did both cams on the beams so I'm sure inlet only will be fine.

The lift system is pretty straight forward once you see the diagrams. Theres a very informative white paper here. (http://www.mmsport.com.au/download.php?fid=34)

[driftke70]

you know when toyota and yamaha get together magic happens.