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AE86R
22nd December 2008, 05:49 PM
Sup gents would be cool like old dc to see what were all gettin on the dyno.

Dont have a scanner for the mean while though this will do.

stock smallport with a filter and 2000yr old exhaust that is fucked.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=1HmBM-CfvE8

wideslider
29th January 2009, 07:25 PM
I just had my car dyno'd today so here are the results.

Engine: Black top 20v, TRD 0.8mm Headgasket, T3 Trumpets, Haltech E8
LS1 Coils, 3.9kg Flywheel.

Power: 108rwkw@9100rpm.

Tuner: Scott Hilzinger from Haltech.

It kept making power but I cut it at 9100rpm for obvious reasons. It is a super
clean tune and highly recomend Scott for tuning.
It sounds insane at those revs.

slydar
29th January 2009, 07:39 PM
thats nice work on the bt.

carefull revving it that hard though. ive replaced one blokes BT who used to rev it that high... leg out and all. was funkdocs car. fair few sprint days ect but yeah. 8.5 might be smarter :)

Delazy
29th January 2009, 08:58 PM
I just had my car dyno'd today so here are the results.

Engine: Black top 20v, TRD 0.8mm Headgasket, T3 Trumpets, Haltech E8
LS1 Coils, 3.9kg Flywheel.

Power: 108rwkw@9100rpm.

Tuner: Scott Hilzinger from Haltech.

It kept making power but I cut it at 9100rpm for obvious reasons. It is a super
clean tune and highly recomend Scott for tuning.
It sounds insane at those revs.

damn, thats good power...cant wait to see wat mine does :D

Frak
29th January 2009, 09:10 PM
ae111 20v bt on mainline dyno, i.mec ramtubes, minor mods, 100.35 fwkw.

max power at 8400rpm.

dynoed before and after fitting rams(same day, within 30 minutes), below 3200 rpm picked up 3kw, from 3200rpm to 4100rpm runs along standard curve then pulls away for an extra 6kw at peak. no losses with short rams.

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/2/1/9/5032.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/2/1/9/5033.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/img294/imec006ji9.jpg/1/)

slydar
29th January 2009, 09:22 PM
ahh nice. i have those ram tubes laying around for my brothers car, good to see they make good numbers.

anyway, hoepfully ill have something to add to this thread in the next few weeks.

have - 16v 4age. big port head. 20v bottom end, with small port pistons, pair of wade cams, and some of the 4-1 headers i sell. will be running the engine in on stock ecu, and then changing to carbs, probably mikuni phhs.

Jonny Rochester
29th January 2009, 09:34 PM
If people are going to list their engine setups they used, I am most interested in cams used, and cam setting used. (Very interested if you got high power). And have much less interest in what computer or coils are used. And if you rev to 9100rpm, then I would be interested in what conrods, and what valve springs.

wideslider
29th January 2009, 10:53 PM
Hey Jonny, I'm taking it to 9100rpm with stock everything bar TRD headgasket.
It revs cleanly there with no signs of valve float, I drove an AE111 which had no limiter and it regulary saw first gear changes to near 9500!!!

So far everything is dandy but if it decides to shoot put a leg out of bed I'll let you all know.

Cheers

fantapants
29th January 2009, 11:07 PM
hey johhny, dont discount the importance of the comp and tune man.... it certainly aint the be all and end all, but a good comp and a great tune will snap a well bult engine and mad cams that is tuned on a mappable camira ecu by duncan the donut eater :)

ps welcome to the chafers man.... if you need cheapie bits let me know i have some grouse hookups in tassie for the lycra ladies :)

fantapants
29th January 2009, 11:11 PM
ps forgot to add mine...

healthy silvertop, very short trumpets.. like those above, motec with ecu rev limit at 8700 i think.... pulled th pin on the dyno at 8500, was still making power but almost flattening... 104kw.

have to sort a few things out for the tune man and he wants another go as im still a bit rich up top and in the middle under partial throttle.

didnt have any other trumpets to try but am workin on a plenum to look a little less defectable. will play with both those and show any changes.

also tuned on bp ultimate with 4.8 - npot sure if that make a difference. if i missed any important info let me know what i need for next time.. ill take notes :P

ae71neo
30th January 2009, 12:59 PM
104s good for a ST.

Mine got 94kw. Adaptronic ecu, and 4.77's.

Rev limit is at 8, so peak power about 7700ish.

reecegze
30th January 2009, 04:16 PM
dynoed my car at toymods dyno day.. Pulled 133kw on 10psi.. overall gain of 5kw with bigport cams and octane booster from previous run of 128.5kw on 10psi .. Motor is a 4agte bigport 4agze running t28 and factory AFM + factory ecu

jaz_ae86
30th January 2009, 07:34 PM
160rwKw at about 7000rpm on 12PSI (Mainline Dyno)

AA63 bottom end (ie bigport)
MR2 bigport head
Home rebuild inc porting and TRD 0.6mm head gasket
Tighe 263 8.3mm inlet cam
HKS 264 8.35mm exh cam
T3 adj cam wheels (currently 114/108)
RWD inlet w/ TVIS held open with cable tie
Kelway exh manifold
JDM S14 T28 ball bearing turbo
JZX90 ARC intercooler (ie HUGE)
3" mandrel exh w/ 1 resonantor and 1 muffler
Late AE92 ECU w/ 1ggte knock sensor not in factory spot, rest factory electricals

without exh cam, 4-2-1 extractors: 77rwkw (Dyno dynamics)

...now to build a motor to handle boost and make some serious numbers...

rich_86
11th February 2009, 08:22 PM
ill get my forged and balanced toda built 4age smallport figures up once i get it in the car etc would be happy with 100kw..

ae_mule
12th February 2009, 07:58 PM
75 RWKW with link V5 computer on blue top with headers, intake avgas and 30 degrees advance at idle:D

adam
13th February 2009, 08:38 PM
Standard big port with TRD copy extractors, 2.25" press bent exhaust and pod pushed out 72.6rwkw.

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/9/8/6287.jpg

stuartgze
8th March 2009, 10:44 AM
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/1/8/2/0/8208.jpg

Ae92 bigport gze with a front mount and e8. doesn't sound like much for what it is but it made it a 6700rpm. will be turbo soon though.

reecegze
8th March 2009, 12:24 PM
thats ruffly what i made with my ae82 gze , nevo pulley 175mm fmic and ems .. Still goes hard. Turbo is better tho

nelpd96|
8th March 2009, 05:19 PM
Did mine yesterday, 4AGZE with a T25 running around 12psi it made 120rwkw on a safe tune. Running an adaptronic and coil packs, I would prefer it to come on boost sooner but there isn't much I can do other than downrgade to a GT17 which would involve a new manifold and stuff. I will probably go for a set of 4.8 gears to help with the boost thing. Not too sure how you guys go with these bit turbo's and waiting for it to come on boost.

Cheers
Paul

reecegze
8th March 2009, 05:22 PM
When does your come on boost ? it must be megger response compared to most i am assuming on mine ,ive upgraded to a custom hiflow on my t28 "laggy.. Boost with my stock t28 came on at 3700 and made 133kw on 10psi.. Now this turbo comes on full boost at 5000rpm which isnt what i wanted :( but once i run more then 10psi it should hall arse. Its a t28 hiflow to bigger front wheel and internals are to4e

nelpd96|
8th March 2009, 06:04 PM
I would have to have a look at the data log but I think that it was making 6psi around 3000rpm and full boost around 4000rpm. Like I said though it think that I might have a little boost leak somewhere. I will have to measure the boost at the turbo compared to the inlet. I am not too fazed about numbers because every dyno is different. The thing certainly feels strong enough, it is up there with my old turbo mx5 and that had 190rwkw on a different dyno

reecegze
8th March 2009, 08:58 PM
full boost @4000 with a t25 is not right me thinks.. Check your cooler for leaks or even your waste, boost controller ..

Sprinterboy
8th March 2009, 09:54 PM
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/1/5/1/2345.jpg

MAP sensor 4AGZE from AE101 rolla Levin
Autronic SMC computer
Custom RMS PWR cooler
Custom RMS plenium
Custom RMS PWR 3core rad
XF throtel body
Custom install of SC14 charger from 1GGZE motor

Now have fitted and soon to have
TRD Copy extractors ceramic coated plus new 2.5in exh with "free flowing" cat and muffler

Need a new smaller charger belt as this one aint tight enought and slips. I can get 11psi some times but that run was at 7psi more often than not,

45aken
9th March 2009, 12:34 AM
what the shit happened past 130kw??
belt slip?

Sprinterboy
9th March 2009, 12:55 AM
yup... Plus, I just asked him to print off the most recent one as i was in picking up some other bits as he was mid tuning.

Its a pig in the wet lol

nelpd96|
9th March 2009, 07:03 AM
Yeah, I will be doing a couple of road runs in second in the next day or two, I will data log to see how it goes. It doesnt help that my MAP sensor hasn't been calibrated spot on. If I change it though I will have to do a retune.

Cheers
Paul

lach
7th May 2009, 05:38 AM
pulled a massive 100.2hp atw's with stock big port with safc and exhaust. Does that seem normal or a bit low? dyno has history running a little low on poer figures.

Frak
7th May 2009, 08:01 PM
pulled a massive 100.2hp atw's with stock big port with safc and exhaust. Does that seem normal or a bit low? dyno has history running a little low on poer figures.


That's 74.6kw.....that's VERY good!

on our dyno(mainline) bigports pull around 65kw(87hp).....give or take a few.

Intense
8th May 2009, 01:46 AM
http://members.iinet.net.au/~awcabren/DSC00383.JPG

96kw on a bog stock ae101 4agze, stock exhaust with big leak from the manifold and chong feng spec filter. Throttle wasn't opening 100% either due to slack at the pedal, fixed now and I'll attend another dyno day in the future to test my gains I'll have made.

lach
11th May 2009, 05:40 AM
That's 74.6kw.....that's VERY good!

on our dyno(mainline) bigports pull around 65kw(87hp).....give or take a few.

awesome, thats good to know then, just got into 86's a few months ago and wasn't sure on power figures.

reecegze
11th May 2009, 09:07 PM
expect around 100kw


http://members.iinet.net.au/~awcabren/DSC00383.JPG

96kw on a bog stock ae101 4agze, stock exhaust with big leak from the manifold and chong feng spec filter. Throttle wasn't opening 100% either due to slack at the pedal, fixed now and I'll attend another dyno day in the future to test my gains I'll have made.

Intense
11th May 2009, 11:48 PM
expect around 100kw

I got a 2.25" mandrel exhaust with a straight through muffler and fixed a huge exhaust leak in the mean time, hoping for more than 104rwkw since a black top 20v ra28 got that figure at the same dyno on another night

blair
12th May 2009, 12:34 PM
Standard big port with TRD copy extractors, 2.25" press bent exhaust and pod pushed out 72.6rwkw.

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/9/8/6287.jpg

what gear is that in? and revs?

adam
12th May 2009, 01:36 PM
what gear is that in? and revs?

I believe it was 4th gear and from a few calculations, the peak power is at about 6.3krpms?

AEA-386
12th May 2009, 07:46 PM
3551

my 20valve sprinter in its early days still havent had a full tune yet waiting to put my new head on :)

charged
31st May 2009, 11:16 AM
sorry for digging up a old thread but where do you get those short trumpets from, Im running the t3 type and want to see the difference when the engine gets a freshen and a run on the engine dyno

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/2/1/9/5032.jpg

My BT made about 182 on a engine dyno

Rice86
31st May 2009, 12:51 PM
Mate did 20v BT conversion in his aw11 with Haltech ECU

standard 20v BT
some extractors 16v mod to fit 20v

94.2kwrw....i'll try get him to send me the dyno sheet

Frak
31st May 2009, 02:11 PM
sorry for digging up a old thread but where do you get those short trumpets from, Im running the t3 type and want to see the difference when the engine gets a freshen and a run on the engine dyno

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/2/1/9/5032.jpg

My BT made about 182 on a engine dyno

John, they are made by a japanese company called I.mec, they are actually Porsche tuners! they only made stuff to suit the AE111 when it was eligible for N1 racing.

They really enhance the top end(above 5000rpm)

I just dynoed a really nice small port configuration(264 HKS's, head gasket, 4-2-1's, quad ae111) put out 90rwkw's, we are going to re dyno this week with the I.mecs on, I'm expecting a few more kw's at the top end. We spent around 2 hours altering cam timing, datalogged each run, to see differences, we could get another 2kw's at the top end but at the expense of torque/power up to about 6400rpm. with the cam timing set to an optimal position, it's sharp as in response :)

charged
31st May 2009, 10:55 PM
Cheers mate, every little bit helps, have to geta set and give them a try when we do the engine and give it a run on Adams dyno :)

DR86TY
8th October 2009, 10:44 AM
My 86.

Stock 3sge, with 2 inch exhaust all the way through, stock computer.

First power run yesterday with 125.9kw atw non turbo.

I was fair happy with that :)

Rice86
8th October 2009, 11:19 AM
My 86.

Stock 3sge, with 2 inch exhaust all the way through, stock computer.

First power run yesterday with 125.9kw atw non turbo.

I was fair happy with that :)

wow thats good

Frak
8th October 2009, 03:58 PM
wow thats good

I agree, I would be very happy with that :thumbup:

OMG866
8th October 2009, 08:45 PM
fuck yea 125.9kw at the rears is awsome for a na.

trueno85
9th October 2009, 01:42 AM
awesome figure running standard everything and just 2" exhaust

redsprinter
9th October 2009, 10:23 AM
got 79rwkw on a smallport fresh standard rebuilt running mircotech+ gze coils on standard basic tune rev limited to 5,000rpm so i can run my engine in .

car mods :
extractors +exhuast
3.5kg light flywheel .

so im pretty happy with it.

Cerby86
9th October 2009, 10:57 AM
My 86.

Stock 3sge, with 2 inch exhaust all the way through, stock computer.

First power run yesterday with 125.9kw atw non turbo.

I was fair happy with that :)

considering most 3sge's are only 100kw at the flywheel when stock and i think a 2 inch exhaust isn't really a big increase I call bs on the dyno.
I believe it has been calibrated to be "enthusiastic" :P

trueno85
9th October 2009, 12:01 PM
"The first version was equipped with VVT-i and produced 197 bhp (147 kW, 200 PS) @ 7000 rpm...second gen produced around 207 bhp (154 kW, 210 PS) @ 7600 rpm." from wiki

its a beams 3sge. but i agree that i dont think a 2" is big enough

DR86TY
9th October 2009, 12:08 PM
Beams came factory with 210hp at the fly.

thats ok tho, what would you recomend on exhaust as its only a 2L.

Mind you the exhaust consists of factory extractors 4-2-1 a cat and a hot dog, no muffler so it flows just as well as any 2.5-4" system. When i spoke to the guy at the exhaust shop this is what he recomended as its not a turbo setup so doesn't need a dumb wogbox exhaust :)

trueno85
9th October 2009, 12:14 PM
Well it kind of depends what direction your going with the motor, there's no point getting it done now if your only going to go turbo or something else later. I would have thought a minimum of 2 1/4" or 2.5"

Exhaust shops can do wonders with different resonators and mufflers to make it not sound like a massive exhaust

DR86TY
9th October 2009, 12:30 PM
That was my main concern was to have a sprinter that sounded like a jumbo jet.

Instead i have a deep rasp noise :) i love it, ig et warm in the paint when i hear it

trueno85
9th October 2009, 12:34 PM
yeah but they can get that sound with a 2.5-3" na with different length/design resonators

my old SSS can cams and i ran a 2.5" and it was no louder than the previous 21/4" press bent i ran originally. Also went in another SSS with a built sr20ve and it had a 3" exhaust and it was quiter than mine. I know that this is on an sr20de but still 4cylinder 2L

GOODY
9th October 2009, 12:45 PM
Not a Toyota engine but I thought I would post it anyway.

SR20DET redtop, 3" exhaust, GTRS turbo @ 16Psi , 740 injecters, Power-fc, z32 afm, 600 x 300 x 76 cooler, stainless manifold
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/4603/dyno1t.th.jpg (http://img9.imageshack.us/i/dyno1t.jpg/)

DR86TY
9th October 2009, 12:45 PM
Yeh true,

Well im stuck with the 2" for now which im happy with.

Ill change it all when i turn towards the turbo setup.

Thanks for the feed back

Rice86
9th October 2009, 01:01 PM
Yeh true,

Well im stuck with the 2" for now which im happy with.

Ill change it all when i turn towards the turbo setup.

Thanks for the feed back

2" is more then enough and sounds great is what im hearing?...

going to be calling around in a few mins to get qoutes for exhaust system...

im thinking 2" all the way with Cat, muffler and some nice simple tip..what else am i missing?...im after quiet exhaust system more then anything

Rice86
9th October 2009, 01:21 PM
well just to spam this thread more

just called and got this

extractors back system

- 2" stainless steal
- high flow cat, apexi most likely
- muffler
- any tip i want
- installed and fitted

$1100...

cheap, not cheap?...

70XIN
10th October 2009, 01:49 AM
Not cheap, although an Apexi cat could take up ~400-500 of that, in that case it would be cheap.

Go 2 1/4" if you can too.

Cerby86
10th October 2009, 01:53 AM
well there a VERY big difference between a beams 3sge and a adm celica 3sge!
Maybe it would be sensible to mention your dyno reading is from a beams :P

Touge Boy
10th October 2009, 11:02 PM
My bigport made 81kw's.... conservative tune, base/stock ignition timing, cams still set @ 0, 8000 limiter, motor was breathing a lot of oil and blowing smoke.Tuner said car was revving real nice, still making some power @ 8000.

This is the engine...

16V bigport 4age, balanced bottom end, ARP Rod bolts
Slight head porting, double valve springs, TRD 0.8mm head gasket
20v silver quad throttles with 75mm trumpets on T3 adapter plate
TODA 288 8.5mm lift cams in/ex with HKS adjustable cam gears, HKS timing belt
ADAPTRONIC ECU with 20V CAS and Denzo individual coils
Walbro fuel pump, SARD Adj. Fuel pressure regulator, 4AGZE injectors
TRD extractors with 2.5 inch exhaust, JRT oval muffler and Titanium cannon

Being re-ringed at the start of next month, nothing serious, just a freshen up, and making a new exhaust ATM, using a JRT oval muffler and a cannon on the back to shut it up a bit so i can do some street driving. Im pretty happy with how it goes atm, pretty useless under 4000, but after that it goes fair hard.


Any ideas what It could make with more timing would in, cams set properly, fresh engine etc... Id be happy to make 90+. If not, there's always a 50hp shot of nos...:DD

88skip
7th June 2010, 07:55 PM
16v bigport made 110.7hp/ 82.5 kw atw with hks 256 cams rsr extractors with hks hipower cat back k&n filter and freedom ecu unsure how its tuned but out of the 3 tunes on there that was the highest

Robo86
7th June 2010, 09:53 PM
dunno if ive posted in here.

bone stock 7age (fresh) even stock ecu

105hp atw

blair
7th June 2010, 10:42 PM
16v bigport made 110.7hp/ 82.5 kw atw with hks 256 cams rsr extractors with hks hipower cat back k&n filter and freedom ecu unsure how its tuned but out of the 3 tunes on there that was the highest

no internal mods? fresh motor?

Trying to figure out what i should be aiming for with my fresh 20v/16v 'combo'

88skip
8th June 2010, 07:23 AM
no internal mods? fresh motor?

Trying to figure out what i should be aiming for with my fresh 20v/16v 'combo'

well motors done 95xxxk's not sure if its been rebuilt. and nah no internals

xero
8th June 2010, 09:55 AM
no internal mods? fresh motor?

Trying to figure out what i should be aiming for with my fresh 20v/16v 'combo'

anything between 80-90rwkw is going to be quick blair. you should get a mad mid to high range power, with enough poke down low not to make it a massive pig.


heres mine:
built smallport
fully balanced bottom end
hi comp pistons (12:1)
"race" head work (dont know exact specs, but god damn its awesome)
kaizen TRD copy headers
crushed exhaust (long story, cbf'd to fix it now)
stock cams (massive limiting factor. pretty much doesnt make any more power after 6500rpm)
ported intake manifold (irish spec)
stock single throttle body
3.7kg fly wheel

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/1/8/6/45868.jpg

88skip
8th June 2010, 06:10 PM
nice! your cfm looks alot better than wat mine did on one of the other ecu settings,
it made 106.4 hp and cfm was all over the place. once i rember were i put the damn things ill take pics of them both

slider4life
9th June 2010, 09:28 PM
got a re tune on mine after i changed exhaust as it was press bent and not mandral also put longer trumpets on the car, have a bt 20v, rsr extractors, 272 cams, haltec e8 computer, sr20det coils that about it and i made 128.2hp ill get dyno sheet up asap

also i made about 610 lb of torque is this a good torque figure????