ngk niridian spark plugs

[poh_86]

hi guys im kinda n00b but i bought a set of ngk niridian spark plugs to replace my old ones

i fitted them in and labelled the leads to the dizzy, but when i changed them over the car didnt start and my cd player started acting up all weird?

then i switched them back to the old ones and the car still didnt start?

im running a jap spec 96kw 4ag

the part numbers on the new sparks are BKR6EIX

the old ones were like BC?????

HELP! my car doesnt start anymore!

much help appreciated

[Monster]

Ok, dude, dont panic, for starters they're iriduim plugs.

Go over what you moved and changed.
Check that the ignition coil is plugged firmly in.
Check that all grounds are still attached.
Chech there is no water around the dizzy area.
Check the ignition timing.
Did you gap the plugs?

If you put back in the old ones and it still doesn't start, it isn't the plugs, check the obvious.
Goodluck, post back if more help is required.

[Monster]

The NGK Iridium option for JDM AE86 4AGE is the BCPR5EIX-11...

I dont know what the hell you have (they sound like S13 plugs actually)

[mattysshop]

i'll check which ones i have in mine..mine came in a silver box with iridium laser on them http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/smile.gif mine are a slight grade colder 6, and the gap is pre set, don't tamper with it!@! you can get them in both gaps .8mm and 1.1mm..the last 2 digits tells you the gap.. eg BCPR5EIX-11 is 1.1mm - BCPR5EIX-8 is .8mm

when you ordered the parts you didn't say that they were for in imported JDM AE86 with a 4AGE..you just ordered the parts for an everyday run of the mill granny AE82 rolla right..one thing that i have found, repco etc etc don't know that AE86 came out with 4AGE's and they don't have listings for AE86 4AGE parts..but there the same as AE82 twin-cam parts..eg rotor button, plugs, leads, cap (small difference with cap)...etc etc..

[driftae86]

mine are BCPR6EIX-11 and they work a treat, you probly have the wrong ones.

[poh_86]

even with that in mind, the old ones still dont work. just checked my car now.. im thinknig its the earthing cable.. cos all my presents on my deck have been reset

gah..

Go over what you moved and changed.
Check that the ignition coil is plugged firmly in. (checked)
Check that all grounds are still attached. (checked from what i could see)
Chech there is no water around the dizzy area.(maybe the case cos it started to rain abit after everything)
Check the ignition timing. (how do i check that?)
Did you gap the plugs?(what does that mean?)

sorry if im a big n00b. just trying everything possible to work it

[crazy86]

One other thing to check (and MANY people make this mistake, but dont like to admit it) just check that the HT leads coming off the distributor are going to the correct plugs. The dizzy cap should have the cylinder number written on each plug, so just trace out each lead one at a time, and make sure the plug end is pushed on properly.
Also check the HT lead from the dizzy to the coil. I lost ignition at the track once because this slipped off just enough to break contact, but it was still hanging on so it looked OK.

[poh_86]

yup i have them labeled lead to distributor and dizy is checked

the MOST STRANGEST thing i have is the my radio presents have been reset,

im guessing its the earthing but its way out to be knocked around/out http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/sad.gif

new battery went in a month ago

oh and i just came back from repco and changed them for laser platinum

bcpr5ep-11 - new ones

BCPR5EIX11 - old ones


just put them in just now, and car dials didnt light up now strange though because a new battery was replaced not long ago, gotto wait to get a new battery in then i guess its another try

thanks for the help guys

[crazy86]

Why did you replace the battery? was it going flat often?

[poh_86]

i've only had the car for a month and before onwership it was replaced with a new one.. im guessing its not earthed properly, and i have had my dumb moments of leaving the in car light on over night http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/sad.gif

[sic86]

I can't remember the number on mine. Im running iridiums. They have the best life ever.

Cheers

[mattysshop]

go to supercheap, get one of those plastic battery boxes..get 5-6M (little extra just incase) of at least 4G amp wire..and a battery that fills that box! i have a 550CCA 11 plate commercial truck battery in my car http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/smile.gif i can leave the stereo and lights on for half the day..and still go start her up... he he http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/smile.gif

[mikes86]

how tight are your battery terminals? I also have a marine battery in my car since one day at work the old battery was dead, and because its a boat shop and we had no smaller batteries in stock i threw a big one in. Can strip my car down for days while still having the cd player blasting http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[sic86]

I have a 580cca battery in mine. From memory it only charges up to 490cca as that is all the altnator can do.

Cheers

[Kitten-Trueno]

Originally posted by CRAZY86@Nov 16 2005, 03:09 PM
just check that the HT leads coming off the distributor are going to the correct plugs. The dizzy cap should have the cylinder number written on each plug, so just trace out each lead one at a time, and make sure the plug end is pushed on properly.
Crazy86: thats what happened with my AE86. http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/ph34r.gif


Matty: How much are those truck batteries?.

[mattysshop]

i get them at trade for about $60.. http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/smile.gif if you go to supercheap etc and see a big bosch battery N53b (just an example) write down that number/modle, and i can see what i can do to get the equivilant battery at 1/4 the price http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/smile.gif still has a 2 year warrenty etc http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/smile.gif

back to the main topic, i think that if you like me, and you run your 4AGE with 30deg adv timing, and use BP ultimate fuel, and the motor hardley ever sees under 6000rpm i personally think there a good idea, upgrade your coil to people!! doesn't really matter what type, as long as it is an ELECTRONIC IGNITION COIL, the ignighter is a self learning type so i've heard http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/smile.gif !

Matty

[genkin]

spark plugs eh?

that reminds me... *adds to shopping list*

[riceburner]

Originally posted by Mattysshop@Nov 17 2005, 11:36 AM
i upgrade your coil to people!! doesn't really matter what type, as long as it is an ELECTRONIC IGNITION COIL, the ignighter is a self learning type so i've heard http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/smile.gif !

Matty
Ive been thinking of changing mine, dont know why, just get a funny feeling its due for a change.

what coil have you used, any suggestions otherwise.

I would hate to hurt the Ignitor or anything else if i didnt do it properly.

NGK web site says

Your Vehicle:
10/1984 - 5/1987 TOYOTA SPRINTER 1600 - 4A-GELU
Spark Plug Part No.
Recommended Plug -BCPR5EP-11
Iridium Option- BCPR5EIX-11


Cheers

Steve

[sic86]

Originally posted by FKN16v+Nov 21 2005, 05:57 PM-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Mattysshop@Nov 17 2005, 11:36 AM
i upgrade your coil to people!! doesn't really matter what type, as long as it is an ELECTRONIC IGNITION COIL, the ignighter is a self learning type so i've heard http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/smile.gif !

Matty
Ive been thinking of changing mine, dont know why, just get a funny feeling its due for a change.

what coil have you used, any suggestions otherwise.

I would hate to hurt the Ignitor or anything else if i didnt do it properly.

NGK web site says

Your Vehicle:
10/1984 - 5/1987 TOYOTA SPRINTER 1600 - 4A-GELU
Spark Plug Part No.
Recommended Plug -BCPR5EP-11
Iridium Option- BCPR5EIX-11


Cheers

Steve [/b]
I just ripped my spark plugs out, there the iridiums i am using. Do the 20v use the same?

Cheers

[sic86]

I just double checked. Im acutally running a BCPR6EIX-11 but BCPR5EIX-11. So im running a colder plug. I wonder if this is why my plugs have been fouling up

Cheers

[mattysshop]

i just got a bosch electronic ignition one.. Josh uses 4 of the bastards.. http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/smile.gif

[sic86]

What is the part number on your bosch coil?

Cheers