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Blood Child
6th December 2005, 05:58 PM
right, probably not too technical for you guys, but it is for me. being the mechanically illiterate person that i am.
just noticed a low, grinding, metal on metal kinda sound on the way home.
time for new; what? where? how? how much?
cheers
NickAE86
6th December 2005, 06:13 PM
constant griding or just noise when brakes are applied?
if its noisy when brakes are applied its prolly the indicators on your brake pads...ie they're low. When u do the change you can take them out if it shits you...even when they do start to make noise theres normally a reasonable amount of pad left anyway so you could prolly get another 5k on them
if its constant griding you've prolly already worn your pads out and are chewing into your rotors. Dont let this happen for too long as you'll have to replace shit...as it is you may get away with having the rotors machined
to find out stick your finger in the caliper bracket to see if theres any pad left
Blood Child
6th December 2005, 07:12 PM
constant grinding. i've been using my handbrake and engine braking all afternoon.
my, my, wasn't that fun? rofl
NickAE86
6th December 2005, 08:16 PM
handbrake & engine braking ay....been taking the scenic route through tallai? http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/wink.gif
pop your wheels off on the weekend (if not sooner) and take a look...pad change is piss easy
you'll see the caliper & associated bracket bolted over the rotor. If you remove the bolt (14mm) from the bottom side of the bracket the caliper can be made to swing out thus removing the old pads. If you can try and get a g-clamp or something to hold the piston in place so you wont have to worry about a brake bleed. Pop new pads in, tighten bolt and away you go (ive never actually had the piston pop out on me but i always change fluid with pads anyway)
To bleed the brakes just loosen the nipple (10mm i think)on the inside of the caliper...try fitting a piece of hose of the nipple first to contain the fluid. Once you've undone the nipple get a mate to pump the brakes until dry and refil with new fluid...keep pumping the brake until all the air is out...hold the last pump while you tighten the nipple and your done
Blood Child
6th December 2005, 09:04 PM
if ur bored and local would you mind coming around and giving me a hand?
and telling me about this 'scenic route'? http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/wink.gif
NickAE86
6th December 2005, 09:12 PM
im southside brissy but if i get down the coast this weekend i can give you a hand http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/smile.gif i think i've even got some pads lying around somewhere
Blood Child
6th December 2005, 09:25 PM
awesome!
the members on this forum are some of the kindest people i've ever met.
i hope to catch up with you on the weekend, though i probably will have at least bought new brake pads by then. (i hope)
my girlfriend is lending me her new mirage til i get my car fixed, so it probably can wait just a few days lol
(as fun as it was driving about constantly using the handbrake)
cheers - Dwayne
call me if ur heading down this way - 0410614731
Blood Child
7th December 2005, 12:19 AM
last thing, do i NEED to bleed the brake lines?
i am trying to avoid doing anything that could go wrong http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/mellow.gif
NickAE86
7th December 2005, 04:24 PM
no sweat man http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/biggrin.gif
at this stage i'm working most of the weekend but depending on this f***ed up heat wave i may not have to...i'll keep you posted
you dont have to bleed the lines...if the fluid is old or in need of a top up i would. Is the pedal spongey? you will notice the difference between old & new fluid...feels like a new car..almost http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/laugh.gif
Blood Child
7th December 2005, 10:27 PM
hmmm
the pedal wasn't spongey but i think it is now.
all depends on what u mean by spongey. if the car is stationary i can push the pedal to the floor, but it still stops me pretty well when i'm moving
mattysshop
8th December 2005, 07:39 AM
Originally posted by Blood Child@Dec 7 2005, 09:27 PM
hmmm
the pedal wasn't spongey but i think it is now.
all depends on what u mean by spongey. if the car is stationary i can push the pedal to the floor, but it still stops me pretty well when i'm moving
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/blink.gif i think pads are the last of your worries if you can do that! maybe time for a caliper rebuild and some new wheel cylinders, master cyl resleeve, new brake lines..flush entire system..all up you'd be looking at about $350-$400 for all of this, well thats what i'm estimating off the prices i can get, thats with new seals though everything, new pads, rotors machined, hoses vary..full set including the rear diff one i got for round $150 toyota genuine for a mate..
don't worry, i'm doing all this stuff shortly anyway.. i do not think you can ever spend enough money on your brakes..
Matty
NickAE86
8th December 2005, 06:39 PM
now now dont freak the poor lad out matt...its only just started playing up on him so hopefully its just a bit of rotor wear
but i do agree that you cant spend enough on brakes....no point going if you cant stop http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/laugh.gif
Blood Child
8th December 2005, 10:33 PM
it still stops just fine, but differently.
the pedal was nice and hard til i put the new pads on http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/huh.gif
one of the old pads was just down to the metal tho
NickAE86
9th December 2005, 05:28 PM
so you changed them over?
has this fixed your noise issue? How do you mean it stops different?
you've prolly got air in your brake lines if the pedal feels less responsive during driving. How much fluid do you have in the reservoir?
Blood Child
10th December 2005, 01:40 AM
i topped up the reservoir as i bled them (only bled one side cos i had an 8mm spanner(wouldn't fit)). i'm pretty sure it's still full
it fixed that particular grinding, metal on metal noise issue.
i still have another unrelated noise issue in the same corner tho
the brakes still work fine, but they have heaps less resistance than before. it just feels wierd
Blood Child
12th December 2005, 07:42 PM
all fixed. it was just air in the line
ae86 slide
12th December 2005, 09:13 PM
sorry dwayne i should have read this earlier, i recently had dramas with brakes and clutch, if i saw it sooner i would have come round and given you a hand
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