Is modders becoming stupid?

[dori_86]

I must get 1 thing off my chest first..... i was in a "RICE" store today http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/dry.gif
--is was looking for some bumper paint ok??

and a young guy asked if they had a drift button?

and the guy said "hmm think so should be overthere"

the young guy returns saying "no, and asks where u can get on because he is sick of pulling up the handbrake to increase and correct his angle while his drifting by popping the clutch"

**sounded pretty much he was reading out of a book** http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/laugh.gif

the guy "says i dont know" i dont even think he knew what he was talking about

all the while ive been listening in (while also standing at the counter)

i then suggest to the young guy to try a one of the PERFORMANCE /DRIFT stores in SA and he has a blank look on his face? (as in PERFORMANCE??)

i then tell him of a place near by that would definately have one and how much they would cost roughly but then explained about how u could do it on the cheap etc

i then ask hinm what car he has and he replies SILVIA and im like... ok then

LATER ON..

im in another less RICE more PERFORMANCE store wanting some bumper paint but they havnt got what i want left

so as im leaving,

and this guy walks up to the service person and asks "Will this fit my car?!?" holding a cheapo pod filter

the service guy was like "umm.. what car?"

"silvia?!?!" as if it wouldnt be any other

"umm i dont know have u measured it?"

"no?!?!?" then walks away with i look on his face as if the guy should know if it does


My question is are modders becoming slack?

because ..

"im sick of pulling up the handbrake when i drift" http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/blink.gif

"will this fit?" without even doing any measuring http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/7/5/4/536981.jpg

now i know, when i look at buying something i like to research it, to c if im getting the best thing 4 my money or ripped off

**no offense to silvia drivers**
it's just what happened, i think it's because they have no experience, but just know "words" because of major online forums.

some


ANY OPINIONS STORIES??

[Jeremy]

I'm sure there was a time in all our lives that we knew diddly squat about cars......it's just scary that these kids are trying to drift around the place in silvias......

I started out in an automatic 120Y that would do 100kph if there was a tail wind or i was going down hill http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/smile.gif

It takes time to learn, i just hope they can learn without hurting anyone http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/7/5/4/536981.jpg

[MountainRunner]

right with ya silvia's will be the nxt rice watch when the fast and the furious tokyo drift movie comes out
every 1 will have a silvia dats my opinion any wayz

[dustyae86]

i blew an intercooler hose on my car 4agze went to ricerbarn and the guy was like dudu just drive it off boost all day.... didnt bother explainin to him i could unless i wanted a stuck throttle affect

[rthy]

modders or Wanna be hekticers

[aaaaah]

Is modders becoming stupid?[/b]
How ironic. http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/laugh.gif


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[dori_86]

um dude its supposed to be like that, a can do speak engarish!

[johnny_08]

well i reckon these bogan modders are idiots, like they go out and buy somethin, lets say a reasonably cheap rwd car that has lots of parts, oh! a silvia! http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/dry.gif (not baggin em http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif) and they go out and get some cheap ass pod and think they get an extra 10kw or whatever, they they do some other gay mods, which makes the car look worse, but hey, its like what area 7 says : "nobody like a bogan"

[MAT713]

haha my lil bro works at supa cheap and deals with stupid shit like this ALL DAY LONG.

i think generally the consumer is getting stupid (except hachi owners http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif) one of my jobs is in retail and the problem of stupidity is quickly growing.


i think we should remove all saftey labels and let the problem sort it self out! haha

[flamingheads]

I think its just a pre 3fast 3furious phase people are going through to try to cut down on the ammount of dumbness after the movie comes out.

Or maybe its just the direction drifting is going...

[rthy]

I think its just a pre 3fast 3furious phase people are going through to try to make more money on the ammount of dumbness after the movie comes out.

Or maybe its just the direction drifting is going...[/b]
fixed

[dori_86]

ha ha soo true anything that happens in the movie
eg spinnerz in SSR mesh rims

will be exploited to the max

[DavisJD]

Some people are just into cars for different reasons.
There goal, put down there window, seat back, hang there arm out the window and play there music LOUD
All the while popping there hoods to show there mates there new Pod filter. "It looks sick, and you should feel how much quicker it is" yeh re....... http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/fap.gif

Anyway people are into cars for different reasons. Only thing that pisses me off about some of them is the extra attention some people make the police take on our cars and scene.

I am afraid of where the drift scene is going. Not that commercilisation is neccesaraly a bad thing for a sport. But it does change it. I believe Fast and the furious 3, Tokyo Drift. Is going to speed up this process and the drift scene will suffer in some ways, and prosper in others.

"Keep It Real" AE86 Driving Club http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/greenbounce.gif


By the way, im already sick of it, when people ask me about my car, and i talk to them about it, and what ive done, what sort of money different things cost. Then they go, "why didn't you get a silvia"
Because i didnt, i love my hachi. If i made the choice again, id make the same one.

[Granto]

I think that's worse, is.. damn idiot 'customer service' people!

i dunno if you guys have had anything like this, it just seems kind of related..

you go into a carparts store, and ask for an item, if they have it in stock and how much (this seems pretty simple to me)

Then on requesting the part, they give you a blank look.. with a bit of passive aggression..

like "you really want me to look this part up?"

Then they usually handball you to someone else, who's not 16 but a 26 year old bogan, who probably is responsible for the oil puddles in the carpark from his leaking 202 powered holden..

Who then gives you false/wrong information about the parts your after, and tells you they're really hard to get and blah blah fucking blah..

That's when i walk out of supercheap, and into a real car parts shop http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/biggrin.gif

SWC tools arn't too bad though, decent quality for the price.

But compred to the idiocy I've seen in the er, automotive cheap parts sales industry? The modders are INGENIOUS in comparison..

It's like

Modwanker A : "Hi I have a siliva S13 1988 and I would like to get.."
Shopwanker A : "Oh no I think you have a maxima"

Grant.

[.wolfwood]

^^ haha lol. i know what you mean, i dont know much about cars but i hate it when i reserch something and go to get the parts for what i need and they tell me im wrong, even though ive spent 3 - 4 hours on the net looking for what i need.

and jsut about all the time they are wrong.

sigh.

[Granto]

worst i've ever had, was when I wanted a top water outlet gasket.. and i thought that was the thermostat, i KNEW it was square, and he kept telling me I had no idea, I said I wasn't sure of the name but think it was thermostat (because of the water temp sensor) and yeh..

I ended up just walking out, going to Burson, getting some gasket glue, and it's still going strong!

Grant.

[Jason]

it shits me off when im ordering motor parts and they want my car model...

[Course_Out]

I work in spare parts and I have to agree it does seem people are getting dumber. I've had some crackers, like one guy that had bought a nuked rb26 to put in his vl (as you do).

Bogan: "I'm gonna run it without an intercooler, it doesn't need one anyway, its just rice"
Me:"Dude, i think Nissan put intercoolers on there for a reason"
Bogan:"What would you know?"

And he was gone....

Then there are the guys that wanna put GReddy e'manages in there Daewoo's with no other mods (no, really)

Fact is there are stupid people everywhere, by the law of averages some have to end up in the car scene, bothering me, the dopey, goddamn....

END RANT

[rthy]

saw a vt today coming home from work
stock (with hubcaps) apart from the huge katana type wing with orange tribal decals on both front fenders and low springs.... ITS TUNED TO DA MAXXXXXX

[mc68]

you think think thats bad, i was flicking though a servce manual in supercrap auto, and the parts guy behind the counter was talking to a young bloke about his 'sik' fc rx7....they were confused about what drive belt to get...and the parts guy commented that he should replace his timing belt soon...and the owner was like, yeah your right, i dont know the last time it was changed!


-sigh-

[aaaaah]

you think think thats bad, i was flicking though a servce manual in supercrap auto, and the parts guy behind the counter was talking to a young bloke about his 'sik' fc rx7....they were confused about what drive belt to get...and the parts guy commented that he should replace his timing belt soon...and the owner was like, yeah your right, i dont know the last time it was changed!


-sigh-[/b]
You should have suggested some aftermarket cams to him http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/greenbounce.gif

[driftism]

I went into repco to see if they stocked unifilter trumpets for 20v throttle bodies...

I was served by the manager, who didn't even know what a trumpet was, even with a good explaination.

[verm69]

Then there are the guys that wanna put GReddy e'manages in there Daewoo's with no other mods (no, really)[/b]


sound like someting woo (OBE353) would do... LOL!!!!

[xero]

i work as a manger in a newsagent, i get it every day, every hour, on the hour.... http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/rant.gif

"can you tell me where the mothers day/easter/christmas cards are?"

sure can you see the big signs that say mothers day/easter/christmas? yeah thats not them, over to the left round the corner, left, right left right etc...down the road... http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/dry.gif

i was in a rice store oooohh a long while ago, anyway there were a group of 4-5 young guys 16-17ish, anyway, #1 was talking about how his parents were getting him a car, a n14 pulsar TI:
"its just like a SSS, its got an sr20 but like no wing..."
#2:" sik, so it will be like, fully stealth"
#1:"yeah its manual, and red, its sik.."
#1: yeah, my parent, they gonna like pay for some mods like an exhaust, and pod and suspension and stuff, i want a turbo but they wont pay for that..."

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/wtf.gif

its about this time i said to #1 while he was pfaffing about with a pod filter het was gonna "get"...

you do realise that the Ti is nothing special, i may have an SR20, but you miss out on the viscous LSD, weight, sporty version of the engine and tune, not to mention sportier suspension as standard... but go ahead dont let that stop you...

[darkon]

i beleive when it comes to cars someones money is inversley proportional to their sense most of the time. anyone that has a silvia and is looking for performance parts for it (even if it is only a pod filter) but still doesnt have an idea about drifting obviously has more money then sense. maybe we should organise a buddy system or sumthing lol teach a wannabe drifter how shit's sposed to be done?

[biggo]

They might know how to mod it......but do they know how to fix it?

Anyway, threres plenty of rice shops around my area so whod have thought itd be so ficken hard to get some ic piping? Turns out i find some in a 4wd parts shop and fwiw, im never goin back to superbarn again http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif I can find what i need on the street somewhere mwohohahaha

big up for the kesevs http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

[rthy]

i put a jdm levin grill on my adm ae86....

[VIC_AE86]

Ill sum it up..

Wankers get S13's because they are well known 'drift' cars..

People take huge loans to get in on the 'scene' so they are cool.

It makes people who really like Silvias look like ricers.. shame really.

[Bustin_86]

Brizey...your a fuckin ricer.

You know this shit bitch!

Kidding man http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/wink.gif

[Choad]

Ill sum it up..

Wankers get S13's because they are well known 'drift' cars..

People take huge loans to get in on the 'scene' so they are cool.

It makes people who really like Silvias look like ricers.. shame really.[/b]

100% agree with u there,
i luv s13s hopefully my next car,
and i kinda dont wanna get one cuz the fact people paying u out about having one,
its the ns geek C***s with there neons and body kits with the chrome rims and no engine work except a redicullus BOV that u can here in dingo oop woop

[mikewestphoto]

I don't mean this as an offence to anyone but I try not to take S13 Silvia owners seriously as most I've talked to don't know a thing about their car except that it's siiiik.

[Course_Out]

The guy in the fc was probably after some big cams as well.........

[ToySprinta]

My manager at the parts store i work at is an ex-mechanic and is of the old school type....

-more then 40psi oil pressure? bullshit! You'd get leaks.
-NGK plugs are jap rubbish
-Iridium is a marketing excercise
-Your car's a what? Skyline? Ah, it'd be a cane toad then.... Imported pest
- Blowing smoke? Jax it (pouring abrasive cleaner into intake to scour bores....)
-What do you need an LSD for, just makes you spin out easier

I'll post more when he comes out with more pearlers...

[Dems]

I don't mean this as an offence to anyone but I try not to take S13 Silvia owners seriously as most I've talked to don't know a thing about their car except that it's siiiik.[/b]

Thats like saying all sprinter drivers are touge champions and deliver tofu. You cant generalise car owners like that, theres dumb people who drive silvias, but theirs also dumb people who drive sprinters, same with rotors and commodores etc. etc.

[.wolfwood]

^^ agreed

[mc68]

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I don't mean this as an offence to anyone but I try not to take S13 Silvia owners seriously as most I've talked to don't know a thing about their car except that it's siiiik.[/b]

Thats like saying all sprinter drivers are touge champions and deliver tofu. You cant generalise car owners like that, theres dumb people who drive silvias, but theirs also dumb people who drive sprinters, same with rotors and commodores etc. etc.
[/b]


yeah but all the s13 driver me an ken know....are a *tad* naive*

[Granto]

heyhey.. there are some cool ns.com people out there http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/smile.gif

Grant.

[jwvdg]

apprentice kid on building site: is that little red car (20v sprinter) yours?
me: yep
apprentice: the're good cars to thrash and do burnouts hey
me: (rolls eyes)
apprentice: they're front wheel drive aren't they?
me: yeah, um, dont you have work to do?

(apprentice then proceeds to wax lyrical about his fully sik commodore)

[driftism]

-Your car's a what? Skyline? Ah, it'd be a cane toad then.... Imported pest

I'll post more when he comes out with more pearlers...[/b]

hahaha.... i'll have to remember that methinks! http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[mikewestphoto]

Thats like saying all sprinter drivers are touge champions and deliver tofu. You cant generalise car owners like that, theres dumb people who drive silvias, but theirs also dumb people who drive sprinters, same with rotors and commodores etc. etc.[/b]

Maybe it was too large a generalisation. The guys out on the track know what they're doing but me and a mate went silvia parts hunting for his car and a lot of the guys we saw knew jack shit. That's probably why we were looking at a written off car looking for parts.

[darkon]

what lots of these young kids dont seem to get is that silvias are a popular drift car because they're as cheap as shit and nobody cares that they wrecked a silvia cause theres 40 000 000 more where that came from. but yeah man i feel sorry for people like you who would be faced with hte problem of not wanting a car becaus dickheads have it (another example would be a commodore or a wrx?)

well what can we do differently to set us apart from the dickheads? i mean there was the black bonnets but even CIVICS have them now... everyone who knows their shit about drifting shud put a small decal on their left headlight http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/biggrin.gif tell me what you's think?

[rthy]

its not to hard to put decals on ur headlight, but it wont take long b4 people start to get defected?

[Wezz]

The problem is if all the proper drifters put decals on their head light. I bet it wont take long for some ricers to see all the drifters have these stickers and will copy it , and it will no longer be original or mean anything.


I think what sets ae86 owners apart is they actually like cars and want to learn about them, they dont drive them to look cool. I think on most other forums if you said put cams/change timing belt on a rotor they wouldnt realise that rotors arent like that. But people who are pasionate and want to learn things about interesting motors/cars/enthusiasts do.

Also with cars like sil's and skylines they can just buy numerous off the shelf parts, they dont need to look at how things work etc, ot do things themselves...

[rthy]

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forum/in...?showtopic=5192 (http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forum/index.php?showtopic=5192)

[darkon]

The problem is if all the proper drifters put decals on their head light. I bet it wont take long for some ricers to see all the drifters have these stickers and will copy it , and it will no longer be original or mean anything.


I think what sets ae86 owners apart is they actually like cars and want to learn about them, they dont drive them to look cool. I think on most other forums if you said put cams/change timing belt on a rotor they wouldnt realise that rotors arent like that. But people who are pasionate and want to learn things about interesting motors/cars/enthusiasts do.

Also with cars like sil's and skylines they can just buy numerous off the shelf parts, they dont need to look at how things work etc, ot do things themselves...[/b]

well i guess they'd probably get onto it... lol why cant we get ourselves like some monogram stickers or authenticity. i totally aggree wit you. i mean sprinters have a WAY lower level of dickheads cuz anything you do to them doesnt really come off the shelf, they're hard to slide, comparitively slow and a general pain in the arse to modify sometimes. kinda a good sorta filter really. i mean if ur gunna put the time n effort into urs then u deserve to be driving it if not then go buy a silvia or sumin where u can bolt EVERYTHING on...

P.S. initial d kinda ruined it tho didnt it...good thing its not widely available in australia yet...

[darkon]

what i meant by hard to slide is that alot of people find it hard to drift underpowered cars properly