azza's ke70

[ae71]

hey all,

though i would start a thread about my shitty ke70,

its current spec is:

engine:
4k-c half way out,
4ac about to go in over then next few days or so

drive train:
exedy single organic plate clutch (new)
avrage condition t-50
borgwaner diff

suspension/brakes:
ae71 struts/brakes
cut springs all around, t-18 rears
farked shocks
ae71 brakes (work better than the ke70's, pads with more meat)

rims:
4x ma61's 14x7 +8
4x of cheviots 14x7 -5
2x of leighton house 15x6.5 +35 :blink:
5x of csx
5x of ke70 stockies
currently, chevitots front, ma61's rear

other stuff:
360mm leather nardi
3 3/4" tacho, making way for a ae71 or posably t18 dash. - tacho ditched now have tacho dash!
black bonnet

parts to go in:
2x ebay reclinable seat
thermo fan
t-series diff
jdm 86 calipers with rebuild kits
bumpy cam!

spares:
ae71 shell
good t-50
t-series minus the centre (as well as my other one)

i think thats about covered everything, I'm part way taking the 4kc out to upgrade slightly to 4ac and 5speed (prase the lord)...

my future plans include, 86 struts (chasing now) kyb shocks allround, 4link, 8&6kg springs, swaybars, rebuilt t-series diff and lsd, repair or rust in rear archs, flaring/lipping gard allround, hi grip street tyres, maybe semi slicks, 4AGE!!!

will chuck some pics up of my project as it is now soon

thanks for reading my exesive babble about my crap car, feel free to leave positive feed back of what you think of my ke70...

[Bustin_86]

oi, kent, wheres my rep?

This bloke is excessively modest, this car is gonna go off when she all comes together http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[ae71]

yeah ok, my main man justin is helping me out a bit, the old man also come over from time to time and says i should use the cable clutch and that the x-members are probaly the same.... he is old skool

[Bustin_86]

A bit... im awesome bitch http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

And your old man is whack :S talks a bit of shit http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

[ae71]

pics everyone

ke70 a few days ago at one of my favorite locations in tasmania
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/3333/1000024mn7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

4K on the way out
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/8/4/3/125362.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

will post more later


A bit... im awesome bitch

And your old man is whack :S talks a bit of shit[/b]

your mum's awsome, in the sack that is harharharhar......

and yes he can be a cheese bag at times

[ae71]

more pics

hectic 4ac, with t-50 and exedy reddy to go in

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/4047/4acandt50waitingtogoinrv9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

OMG t-series!!! needs a clean, and its going to cop a reco

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/2728/dirtytseriesdiffhe9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

ae71 parts car, also the donor for my 4ac

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/6325/ae71partscarqh1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Bustin_86]

I remember buying that red wreck for you http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

[MountainRunner]

i want those rims on the donor http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Bustin_86]

For 500 im sure he would part with a set http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

[Bustin_86]

that YOU fucked... http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

And no its not, he bought another one.

[v-tec]

Sounds like the car is going to become quite interesting mate

Can i ask why your bothering for a 4ac instead of just waiting till you can afford a 4age?

i understand 4age obviously isnt everyones cup of tea straight up

[Brendo]

cause he has the 4ac right there now and waiting, and the 4k...well im sure your well aware of the 4k's standard form abilities lol.

i think he plans to learn all he can with the little power from 4ac then get a 4age

[v-tec]

Fair call, i spose if its a good running 4ac then yea it should go well

lol... my 4ac ran worse than a 4k corolla with 5 people inside

[Bustin_86]

Stop misquoting shit, it takes me to logn to catch on to what you are saying!

Lol, probably didnt help.... you still owe me a pig t18! http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

[Brendo]

stop spamming aaron's thread homo's

[ae71]

yeah v-tec i drove the ae71 when it was still in rego and it has quite abit more power than the 4K, also with the 4speed i only get around 300km per tank aprox, with mostly highway driving... even though its not the best 4ac, it definately gose much better than the $k and im half way to convering to 4age...

i need suspension and brakes before i go 4age, but when these are done the next thing will definatly be a ge.. plus the 4ac still has enough power for me to learn more, hell i have had a little fun with what the 4K has to offer which isnt much, so i will be happy..

i brought another t-series, there is the other one that joash hepled distroy the centre of, its good for axels, housing and a tailshaft....

4K is now out!!!

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/615/lookno4krj1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

at the end of the day with the shed cramed full of shit as well as the ae71 pieled almost up to the roof i called it a day...

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/2317/shedfullsh9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[ae71]

tomorow, will swap x-members after work so i can move the ae71, mite put the 4K back in it to make room

[ae71]

please excuse joash as he is a little pissed and spells worse than me...

you can have my 4k-c as im needing the 4ac

[v-tec]

Sounding good mate, yea if the 4ac is that much better than the old 4k you had then good move for sure.
hell, if you spend as much on suspension bits as you could potentially on a 4age converion (after the car has reached stock ae71 status - driveline wise) you could probly cut through corners better than most of the 4age fellas.

good luck with it mate

[driftke70]

well now that hes gone 4ac should he ever choose to go ge it will be an easier process.

[ae71]

yeah v-tec thats the plan anyway... http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

yeah it is easyer to go ge, well i have to get rid of the ae71 out of my yard so taking the 4ac out seemed a good idea.. only a few bolts and wiring to go ge now... and fuel...

but yes, i dont mean to sound pussy but the 4ac is definatly more fun than the 4K, will go ge but not just yet, when the other is done then it will be time.. by then i will be sick of the 4ac

[Bustin_86]

AARON SLIDEZZZ WICKEDZORZ

[ae71]

AARON SLIDEZZZ WICKEDZORZ[/b]

justin you joke too much http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

[Bustin_86]

Nah man, your off tap yo.

Buy those shocks...ill lend ya.

[ae71]

yes, i want those shocks, you betta land me....

[Bustin_86]

Ungrateful kent, ill lend ya if i want to http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

[Brendo]

justin and aaron...u can use msn to chat u know haha

[ae71]

hahaha thats obvious...

update: 4a cross member is in ke70 with the 4k member being put back into the ae71 and the struts so both cars are able to be pushed around once again

[Bustin_86]

Pedal powah!!!!

We will get her running by next weekend dude...not this one coming... need to get our asses back out to the hills!

[ae71]

depends if i can get my arse into gear... ill start on he pedal box today maybe, or clean up the engine bay is its fairly grubby, or maybe even the radiator support pannel... lots to do, will get stcuk into it after lunch

got some sprinter struts comlete with stocko springs/shocks and brakes, also included steerign arms, will cut the springs and get them in before too long... the pads/rotors are soooooo much bigger than ae71/ke70!!!!

[Course_Out]

Hahaha, it's frightening how small the ke70/ae71 gear is compared to sprinter stuff isn't it?

Looking good man, looks like sedans are taking over the world lately......

[ae71]

Hahaha, it's frightening how small the ke70/ae71 gear is compared to sprinter stuff isn't it?

Looking good man, looks like sedans are taking over the world lately......[/b]

yeah and to think thats what comes stock, and i thought the ke70 brakes where the best thing since sliced bread, i had drums all round on my pervious first car...

update: at the end of today i have completely removed the pedal box from the ke70. also while im at it i though i would remove most of that spong and tar sound detening from behind the dash, so far got one shopping bag full and im only half done. i spent quite a bit of time trying to make up a template to drill/cut the holes in the fire wall for the clutch master. i have figured it out sort of, using one of the bolts that hold the brake lines inplace as a starting point i drilled out the holes to mark. have one hole drill but as its getting late thought i better packup the drill for the night to keep the neibours happy..

tomorows goles are, finnish the pedel box, hopefully get some of the dash in back in, the fluid line for the clutch.. i need a hard line from the brake splitter near the master to the passenger side wheel well..

as you can see i cbf pulling out the rest of it to get that last little bit of spongy shat...

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5653/1000146go9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Brendo]

good stuff man, mine is all done its a pain in the ass, dont worry too much about the master cylinder bolt holes and main hole being spot on as its really just bolted to the pedal box and firewall is just a layer inbetween.

mine were a bit off but i just kept filing away till it fitted, will get pics of mine up soon in my thread

[ae71]

oh yeah, i wanted mine to be as close as posible, so it looks nice and neat.. but i hear what your saying will finnish it up today, the pedal box that is..

[ae71]

got the pedal box in, clutch master and most of the dash... just need to plug in the cluster and put the suround back in and that another job finnishd..

[20sil]

Hey man would you be able to take some pics of the pedal box with the clutch master on inside and in the engine bay? Have you got an ADM box or a JDM one?

[ae71]

yeah i got a adm one from a ae71.. should be the same as 86's tho

[ae71]

i made a page with some pic's for the cutting of the hole in the fire wall, just how i did it my ghetto way

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forum/in...showtopic=11624 (http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forum/index.php?showtopic=11624)

[20sil]

Sweet, hook a brother up with the template http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/biggrin.gif

How did you run your clutch lines?

[ae71]

Sweet, hook a brother up with the template[/b]

chuck me a PM and ill send it to you...

im doing the clutch lines atm, just putting them where the stock one gose. the bracket near the g/box needs holes drilled but appart from that, yeah it just gose on there... dose this answer your question?

[20sil]

Yeah, ill figure it out, ill just put em where ever, ill chuck you a pm now.

[ae71]

will send it on monday... some other people mite want it so you mite have to foward it on to them when your done with it... lol

[20sil]

Yeah thats no worries man.

[ae71]

i have the 4ac running!! yay

i had a little thing, resistor? on the back of the distributor that was shagged and would let it make spark.. but it's all good now, just need to find another one so i can return the one i borrowed..

its a nice little upgrade for the 4k. altho the clutch is new its still not working the best, will give it another bleed, may have to replace the slave, they are only $51 from rapeco anyway..

[Bustin_86]

This car is so slow....

[driftke70]

51 bucks, your getting raped, i paid 24 the other day

[Bustin_86]

they call it rape-co for a reason http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

[browneye]

Hey Aaron...

This thing is looking good...especially around the dairy turning circle http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/2thumbs.gif http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/2thumbs.gif

May have to get mine regoed so's we can tandem thrash around Golden Valley.....

Good work mate...

PS not as slow as your ae86 Justin http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

[Bustin_86]

Azza was havin a crack wasnt he!

Do it Scott...ill take you on with the '72 and Aaron will have a go with his '71 http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/biggrin.gif

So true http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/sad.gif 86 doesnt even have a fuel tank...

Cant wait for this thing to get some suspension...hint hint Azza...

[Brendo]

51 bucks, your getting raped, i paid 24 the other day[/b]


u serious? 24 bucks for a t50 clutch slave, its almost worth getting u too buy me one and post it to me while i transfer coin lol

[ae71]

51 bucks, your getting raped, i paid 24 the other day[/b]

can i ask where you got your from??

yeah scott if you can get it rego'd please do!! would be a mad to have it driving on the street.. justin has full interior and i have nearly a full ae71 interior so if you need anything to help get it past inspection give us a yell..

yes suspension wont be that far away, as will the new stoppers.. its just all money. if i could get some reliable work it would help.. but i recon i will be starting tafe soon so that will hult the cash flow abit..

[ae71]

i got some 175's put onto a pair of my cheviot wheels to see how they look, plus i was sick of stockies on the back, so currently i have the ma's on the front... because of the offset the gards needed to be lipped i tryed just foldin the inner lip up but tthat wasnt enough, i got my old man to lip them and cut out the rust while he was at it..

[ae71]

only one has been done so far, i was going to do it my self be he just dose such a good job i recon i let him do it... would probaly of looked better if it was the same all around to get rid of the line at the bottem of the door and where it gose down to the mud flap, but atleast it dosent scrub that much anymore..

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/8/4/3/128713.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/3741/1000252vg4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

just need some new suspension before i can lower it a bit more... gotta love negative offset

[Bustin_86]

Lookin hot bruv http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Get soem stiff shit and get this thing t-18 low http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

[20sil]

Looks sweet!! What happened to the template mate?

[Bustin_86]

Aaron is a pretty busy bloke dude, and he has limited access to the internet so give him a fair go aye. Im sure he will get it to you as soon as possible...

[Brendo]

he only asked a question no need to shoot his ass justin lol

[20sil]

Yeah nah wasnt havin a go at him, just stirrin him up, ive done it but just wanted to know what happened lol.

[ae71]

what happened..? your mum happened. i was busy with her http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

[Bustin_86]

pwned'n'shiz

[ae71]

there we go ladies clicky clicky
ready to use template (http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forum/index.php?showtopic=11624&st=20&gopid=310408&)

yeah justin i got him good... http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

[20sil]

yeah justin i got him good... http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif[/b]

Proud of that are you? Thats so manly of you....

[ae71]

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yeah justin i got him good... http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif[/b]

Proud of that are you? Thats so manly of you....
[/b]

quite proud infact http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

na man, i wasnt having a go at you, just a joke, justin knows what im talking about

[20sil]

Yeah i know man, i was just being sarcastic, all good.

[ae71]

sweet, cheers

currently having a problem with the dash, it has blown several fuses. im thinking it must be a bare wire shorting out somewhere, cant wait for the hunt...

[ae71]

fix the dash problem now..

got a body kit, just need to make up some rear brackets and see if the front ones will fit straight up, i have a feeling they wont..

[browneye]

fix the dash problem now..

got a body kit, just need to make up some rear brackets and see if the front ones will fit straight up, i have a feeling they wont..[/b]

Good luck azza...Glad that the dash is fixed...reverse light wires.. http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

Sounds like your father will be back on the welder making those brackets...

Regards

Scott Brown

Next time you're coming past pick up the clutch line for Brendo K ??

[Brendo]

yep do that azz will pay u back next time i see u

cheers

[ae71]

ok scott (pro!!)saw and fixed the problem, my reverse light cable wasnt pluged on and had been touching on the zorst when it was hot and had melted the wires abit...

will get it for you man,

the bumpers will probaly be going on with zippie ties.. i havnt looked at the bumpers and brackets yet.. mite even try get sum sprinter rear brackets cause from memory i think they where fairly close.

got a heap of used tyres yesty so im good for rears, desperately need some fronts though, been on the hills tonight and had a few lockups cause of the lack of grip they have on the bad surfaces...

if anyone has some good 14/15" used tyres they will sell cheap i will take them if they still have good grip dosent matter if they arnt too far from the markers just as long as they hav enough if i get pulled over.. want them in a pefurably in a 15/195/50 but will be happy with 185

[Bustin_86]

Fuck off man, most of those tyres are mine http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

Have to wait a fortnight or so and do another raid http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

Hilllzzz runnnzzz! you sickcunt!

[ae71]

Fuck off man, most of those tyres are mine

Have to wait a fortnight or so and do another raid[/b]

yeah for sure.. gotta love the sponsor..

and they arnt all yours! these must of been 7-8 tyres by time we got back to your place... what do you think your a nissan?

[Bustin_86]

dude, im someone who actually uses a few tyres http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

Gotta get that eeeeeeeee-brake of yours fixed so you can use them to lol http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

We will have to sort them out sometime bro... Tyre sponsor FTW!

[ae71]

dude, im someone who actually uses a few tyres

Gotta get that eeeeeeeee-brake of yours fixed so you can use them to lol[/b]

have you actually looked at my rears..? they are farked not cause of the masvie scrub.. they are so slippery in the wet, less grip than with the ke70 stocko's. just gose spin spin spin....

[Bustin_86]

dude, we all love it when they go spin spin spin http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

[ae71]

no but it makes me go spin spin spin...

edit: ripping a masive single spinner aint cool either...

[browneye]

C'mon Aaron show us pics of your battle damage http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

Not much give in steel strainer posts........

[Bustin_86]

oohhhhh he aint gonna like being called on that one http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

the sad thing was that he wasnt even going hard at the time http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/sad.gif just gravel+retreads...

now has sprinter front bar btw peoples. He cant wait to be inundated by pm's asking about fitment issues by other e7 blokes... harharharhar

[ae71]

there we go that when i got it home (towed)

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/4157/ke70damagenx0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

looking at this you can see it has just missed the chassis rail, it actualy bent the tabs on the end of it... http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/ohmy.gif

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/7796/1000279fy8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

well it didnt cost me anything to fix so far. it broke a bar in the radiator when the fan hit it on the inside. and it broke my super whicked headlight globe which im most pissed about..

now have some miss match pannels but they are straight. it also has a stocko sprinter front bar with a few super duper meat axe zippie ties http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

will post picks hopefullly before it falls off or i crash again..

[kewagon]

what did ya get it towed home for?? thats still way drivable, shoulda just pulled that gaurd out a bit and been on your way,

get the new pics up

[ae71]

yeah it was kinda, but it damaged the radiator so it would of run dry on the trip back. i thought about driving it. it was only about 4kms from my house. lol

[ae71]

there we go pep's sprinter bumper on... just needs cleaning up, it is gray with mud on it from the pervious crash..? also the stone tray painting and the bonnute/gaurd...

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/8/4/3/131755.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

edit: it also needs a indicator for the passenger side, has a cut down ke70 one jammed in there, not even a zippie tie holding it in... lol ghetto spec

[browneye]

Ding Dong the bitch is dead... http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

Azza's 4ac shit itself last night..I had the ominous duty of trailering it home last night, it does 120km/h now...briefly http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

Good luck with the new motor mate
Regards

Scott Brown

[Bustin_86]

New 4ac is gonna be a animal!

[Brendo]

when u guys gonna have it running, busy this week? or you gonna have it goin for the weekend

[Bustin_86]

Have it going this weekend.

He is borrowing the '72 at the moment...

[Brendo]

i know he came here last night and baked one off out the front rooted your diff lol

[Bustin_86]

Pfft, i've got a spare.

[brad]

what not in yet?
just make sure you guys tighten the crank pulley bolt, pretty sure i didnt.
have fun, if thats possible with a 4ac http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/laugh.gif

[ae71]

yes indeed, it is alive, sounds like a tight motor...

put NEW plugs in it and a new dizzy cap, ajusted the points, gose a bit better now, just it still has a cutout type miss sometimes.. have to get more of that carb cleaner threw the system...

have a pic of the sprinter bumper on with scotts superlights on the front, dont looks too bad, better in a 14 tho.

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/2421/1000608gb8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[kewagon]

that looks awsome, but ditch the mudflaps, only grannys drift with mudflaps........

[Bustin_86]

Aaron's to hardcore to wield a screwdriver http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

Went for a drive the other night in the twisties weapon, new 4ac has pepped it up a lot. Lots nicer to drive http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/smile.gif I think Aaron also lashed out and got some new pads... and apparently he has a exhaust brake on order.

So there's an update for the internet underprivileged http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

[ae71]

the car is so low it drags the mud flaps, and there is so much body roll with the cutties that they drag when i pull into my street... lol

[ae71]

UPDATE: new 4ac gose well, sounds alot better than the old one
new parts include
NEW- spark plugs
NEW- brake pads (shitty feroddo, belive me they are shitty)
NEW- brkae fluid
NEW- clutch slave cylinder
used but new to me thermo fan

soon to come when i cna be fu*ked NEW synthetic oil and NEW filter

[Bustin_86]

they will wear off http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/biggrin.gif

fuck i love our ghetto times and thrash sessions man

[Bustin_86]

oh and double post, new brake fluid! omg! no more castrol water mix http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

Aaron's my brother, yo

[stouty]

Dont use synthetic oil if its hasnt been using it all along its not good for the engine ive been told by about 100 people only to use it if you get a complete rebuild or if the engine has been using it since its birth lol something to do with the oil not sticking to the metal???

[Brendo]

dont use synthetic in a 4c az. just run of the mill 15-50 will doah or 20-50 if u feeling happy. and an oil filter? ghetto engines dont have these replaced!

[ae71]

lol

justin too poor to aford castrol, cause you used it all ya barstard, had to buy some shitty shell 'perfomance' fluid....

hhmm... the main reson i wanted to use synthetic was because it is rummored to give an extra hp or 2.. plus the added bonus of having the 'claimed' wear benifits.. yes a new oil filter, had new oil but an old filter. dont worry it was the cheapest of the full synthetics http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

4ac build is on, just need a donor motor with a good head,
have:
bigger cam
ge bigport pistons, rods and alright used barings
1x 40mm side draft mikuni solex (desiding if i should go single or twin)

Plan: to use the ge rods and pistons, bigger cam, shaved head, bigger carb/s. thinking i should get around 80hp thats 20 short of a standard ge, just carb and minus a cam lol. with the shaved head, pistons, new rings im aiming for about 10:1 compression..

would like peoples opinion on if i should use twin 40mm or just get the one i have rejetted. bare in mind that this is a budget engine build.

and who would make the cheapest but still good enough quality to use rings?

i would like to thank scott brown (brown eye) for all the parts he has donted to me, being a mate, for all of the help and advice and also the trailer home at short notice when my old 4ac finally gave way http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/2thumbs.gif

thanks to justin for supllying the rear t-18 cutties (perfect hight) that are slightly better than ke70 ones.

[Brendo]

if u really want to build a 4ac i spose go for it, a 3tc would be better, but really 4age ftw

put twin carbs on it anyway, and ffs get new bearings haha

[Bustin_86]

Aaron, get new bearings bro. Dont cost all that much, and at least you know they wont let go.

I would go twin carb dude. Your gonna need it to keep up to the ge's and for the added cost, its worth it i think.

So happy its all coming together for you http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/smile.gif Im looking forward to assembling the mongrel motor with you.

You know that if you need help or some bank i will always be there to help you out in those respects lol...

What the fuck? Scott gets mention for being a mate but i dont?! i have to put up with your ugly ass more than he does... goddamn adoptive fathers hahahahaha. Kidding http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

4age's, tremble in fear. The 4aHCc (4a-high compression-c) is coming!

[ae71]

yes, mite have to sell some of my stuff, t-series shaft, housing, maybe even fix the old one and sell it!!! i would be uber cashed up then.. almost enough to build the whole motor!!

only need carbs, rings, h/gasket, and a new 4ac

[Bustin_86]

ACL bearings... only be like 150 or something!

[Brendo]

dont use an ACL head gasket tho they are shit..

[Bustin_86]

nah....get a hellah thin metal one or something...

[ae71]

the barings look ok, 150 for a set fuck that, thats not budget

i think a genuine toyota one is about $80

i got a price on a custom 2mm copper one when i was thinking of going turbo, it was $115+gst+post with me providing a template

a thinner one should be a bit cheaper

[Brendo]

yeah dig up your old 4ac turbo idea, cause u have to spend heaps of money to get any power out of it otherwise, it wouldnt be worth it

my 3k for example, nice amount of NA power, but i wouldnt build one from scratch as it would cost upwards of about 8 grand

[ae71]

yes well its just rediculess to sepnd that amount of money on a 3k http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

n/a 4ac will be much better than turboing the barstard. it will be cheaper, more reliable (i.e. not changing motors every weekend). it will wont run like a 3legged dog off boost. the power will be more useable, will sound much better, more sleeper. brap brap braaaaaaaap is less attention getting than wwsssssss ptch. but really i want a strong budget motor that will last more like 15,000+ km's that i can get in thrash all day long.

i much rather revs over spool, aiming to have the motor revving to about 7500 reliably. it will do it stock but after a while the bottem end lets go and makes a nice little hole in the side of the block.... as would a stock bottem end with turbo. i figured ge revs to 8 stock so 7.5 would be fine with with the stock ge pistons and rods. better rod bolts should prvent the bottem end from braking, it isnt going to have much more compression that a stock ge (aiming for about 10:1, big ports are 9.4:1 ) so the rods them selfs shouldn't brake. just need to improve the head a little, porting, cam and im looking into dobble valve springs.

[Brendo]

thats why i didnt build one i bought one, saved about 10k building an engine to that level of performance.

i think u would be bored with your worked 4ac in no time i would be, stock 4age is only just enough power to have fun... and prob be cheaper than your build.

but anyway u guys more into grip now hey, u wouldnt be able to drift anyway with 4ac haha

[Bustin_86]

Grip ftw yo!

Azza, it will be good man. Better than what we think it will be i reckon.

Embelish the rest of money into brakes/suspension http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[ae71]

sure 500, plus recon it, fuel, clutch, rwd... more like 1500+ and i dont want a gettoed setup like i have now and in the near future

i only have 1! point left, last thing i need is a ge.... and i need suspension before i have anything as crazy as that. if the built 4ac is still going when i buy a ge i should be able to sell it for big $$ to some ricer.

so not dumb, fun and cheap. damn, stock 4ac plus brakes/suspension with be fun. i have fun with cutties and smoking brakes (last night lol).

[ae71]

i got prices for new bearings,
bearing set conrod bearing set heavy duty $52.75
bearing set conrod race spec $57.30
bearing set mains race spec 3/4 groove $93.03
bearing set mains full groove heavy duty $86.15
bearing set mains half groove heavy duty $75.801

[Hokey]

aye mate,
just wondering how you wired up the coil with the 4ac? i am doing the same conversion for the same purpose as you and just trying to work out how to set up the coil. do you have msn?
Thanks, Calvin

[ae71]

Pm'd calvin

[ae71]

new exhaust is in! oh sounds the bomshizel

unfortunately dosent pop carrots like justins dose but sounds as good, if i can fix the leak up the front...

[Bustin_86]

Yeah sounds the shiz above 4 grand http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Definately inspired me to tweak my exhaust a little. Get it sounding proper.

Pity about the down low sound http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/sad.gif Better than s tock sooter though!

[ae71]

Pity about the down low sound http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/sad.gif Better than s tock sooter though![/b]

everyone turns expecting to see a nissan, they are quickly disappointed when its only a ke70 http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

[BrittanySpears]

hows that engine coing along niga

[ae71]

no real progress, still looking into what i need to do to the head. no money equals no progress tho.

[ae71]

project grip advances due to some bargining/wapping. i have landed a 32/36 weber!

i have got it on, just need to make up a filter and breather filter. bye bye emissions shit! made a aluminium plate to block off the exhaust to the intake (wtf where they thinking) as well as removing all unessesary piping only keeping a line to the dizzy and one to the cam cover.

hopefully it runs!!! will get some pics up of the bay later, looks alot less cluttered. i also found some working standard rear shocks and a standard panhard with ONE nolathain bush! not 2 but 1

[Bustin_86]

Pfft swapping..

Say thankyou to Kyouteki for GIVING you the carb :P

I have to pay for my parts :mellow:

[ae71]

justin shut your hole, i did the running around for that, i was almost killed by dodgy stacked wood under an ae71 getting that diff out!

not to mention swapping it..............


it runs! needs abit more work to get everything worked out, its running abit rich and needs to come back off.

[Bustin_86]

Omg, running around? unbelievable! did you strain a lazy muscle? :P

Playing bro, couldn't have a better business partner!

Will be interesting to see how much difference it makes. At least one of us will have experience when we do mine :D

[ae71]

Will be interesting to see how much difference it makes. At least one of us will have experience when we do mine[/b]

i would say at the moment it would have givin it about 5hp, it isnt running properly yet has to come off again <_< hopefully it will be going to its full potential soon, it did start to kickout in 3rd going around a sweeper lol (wet). has most power between 3000-4500 but it need some timing put in and it will really go nicely. has more crackel from the zorst.

These abit more in it than i thought, too me about 2 days in total. alot of muching around and fiddling took up time.

pics of my butiful weber and hawt 4ac lol looks alot tidier without the standard bulky airbox and emissions pipes/tubes

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/8/4/3/150489.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/8/4/3/150490.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/8/4/3/150491.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Bustin_86]

Most ghetto air filter ever! Nah man looks tidy as, neater than a Rollaclub ke38.9 blue moon edition, you dig?

ZOMG overhead cam broooo!

Looks a heap tidier, help me do mine?

[ae71]

Most ghetto air filter ever! Nah man looks tidy as, neater than a Rollaclub ke38.9 blue moon edition, you dig?

ZOMG overhead cam broooo!

Looks a heap tidier, help me do mine?[/b]

yeah mate, oh who wanted some of my airfilter mesh....? :P i used most of it, also used some as a breather on the cam cover

[ae82]

thats real jdm mate

[Bustin_86]

Eason said it, and he is asian. Must be true!

Eason <3

Did ya find those pistons and shit azz?

[ae71]

Eason said it, and he is asian. Must be true!

Eason <3

Did ya find those pistons and shit azz?[/b]

yes i did, i will have to hide them from dad

[kewagon]

the hole in the exhaust manifold that goes through to the inlet that i presume you blocked is there to help the manifolds warm up quicker, take pipes out that go from the inlet to that round thing and to the exhaust and cut it off and bend it over to seal it up and then jsut ditch the rest of that pipeing, will get rid of more shit, in the end you will prob find more gains from removing all the emmision gear than the weber

[ae71]

i made up a plate to block it off completely, its chockers with shit. the intake and exhaust mani's are bolted together so they would warm up fairly quickly anyway... not sure that it is there for that reson being that (once apon a time) exhaust gases have a way of getting there, the only place for them to go is into the intake (perfomance robbing). would make no diffrence if it was left there and i dont want more exhaust leaks from a cut and bent pipe....?

edit: thanks for the thought though james

[kewagon]

i have done the cutting and bending of the pipe, i cut it down and bent it ove, clamped it up tight in the vive and pressed it over itself another 2 or 3 times, jsut gets rid of this big useless thing and neatens stuff up, its up to you though man,

[ae71]

i think i will just leave it forthe time being, not too worried about looks, theres wiring going everywhere and battle damage.

i will get rid of it when i get the new carbs and maybe custom extractors, will have to just play it by ear. but will definately go when i get the new carbs, cause the mani will have to be custom.

[ae71]

TRD 6&4 springs aquired

will have some short stroke rear ajustable shocks soon.

next will be a electric dizzy with shiny new bits in the next few days which should make it run on all cylinders all the time :P

[deleta]

mmmmmm yum TRD

[Bustin_86]

I never get any rep. I cannot believe this shit! I thankyou for everything on my car and i SOURCE AND BUY you springs and i dont even get a mention... If it wasnt for me your car would be completely stock, no weeeeeeeeeeber even!

Slut.

:lol:

[ae71]

fuck you justin, i do a miniumum of HALF the work on your car and i dont get a mention.. you come across some junky old matress springs and im surposed to blow you??

your like winge bleeeeeed i cant be farked putting the motor in myself wwaaaaa im such a sook, i have put all the motors in my car myself.... not cryed or bleed once

[deleta]

ohhhh love fight lol

[ae71]

ZZZZZZZZZING

[Bustin_86]

Mattress springs aye?

In that case i will keep the TRD GOODNESS

And i will have you note, and possible quote, that i have included a thanks section in my thread, where i wrote a very flattering paragraph all about you.

So zing that one up ya.

[deleta]

yah that is very very tru justin , i think u may have been served aaron

[Bustin_86]

Thankyou Callum, im sure we can see who is the "brains" behind kyouteki now...

ONLYJOKINGAARON

I love my brother

[E7]

thats what i call an air filter haha

[ae71]

yes an exellent filter, it keep rocks, bolts and childeren out of the intake... really have to watch those welds tho with this honda shot of nos...

do you think im stupid justin..??

edited yesterday.. we can all see it too mater

dont you start callum or i will cut off your discount :P

[ae71]

This post has been edited by Bustin_86: Yesterday, 11:55 AM[/b]

[ae71]

**small update**

now has electronic dizzy so it runs properly!! getting enough spark to ingite the fuel. needs some higher octane fuel and a retune of the carb... but it has more power with less throttle and sounds angary as hell for some reson..

[ae71]

note the exellent uncluttered wiring.....

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/8/4/3/154497.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[deleta]

yah what wires i cant see any :ph34r: , new stuff looks so pritty

[Bustin_86]

Is it ticking over any better bro?

[ae71]

hell yeah.. heaps better responce. no increse in power, i took it for a quick thrash in the rain when i got it running and it gose well.

skidded that roundy near myplace in 3rd at about 2000-2500 revs was cool as just power over cause the front has no grip. then again when i turned into my street so it must have more toque (hasnt missed once yay). the stronger spark makes up for the large amount of fuel going in.

might have to take of the head for a shave and put that bumpy cam in ;)

[Bustin_86]

Fuck yeah man! thats uber hellah pimp!

Hillsy is oonnnnnnn cant wait lol, no more bahhhhhh-b-b-b-bup-HHHHHHHH action lol!

[ae71]

yeah going to give brandan a drag race i think..

he said he is comming up this way for a hills run

[ae71]

new temporary front springs are in.

I'm guessing that they are at least 8kg because they are heaps thicker than my 6kg TRD springs, makes them look like spaghetti in comparison.

gets plenty of drift bounce

the one on the left is the cut spring which i used to use..

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/8/4/3/154798.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Felix]

jesus

how low does it sit with those in?

[ae71]

low :D

for some reason im not getting bump steer with them i thought i would. dose the job suprisingly well for springs i got for free :P

the cut standard spring has 2 coils cut off. had to cut off 3 coils for it to sit low enough with the stiff ones. they maybe abit more than 8kg because they are heaps thinker than 6kg.

[Bustin_86]

Maybe your thinking that bumpsteer is something different man? Cos the 71 gets quite a lot?

Nonetheless, car handles a lot better. Good (free) mod!

[ae71]

eeerrr i don't seem to get bump steer man, t-18 had wicked bad bump steer with the cutties i almost died once or twice going over crests at speed.

it bumps but doesn't bump steer

[Bustin_86]

It was bump steering like a ho out at 'luna man. Spring rate etc doesn't affect bump steer so much, its just the angle of the lower control arm in low cars that causes it.

Yeah '72 was a right hoooo when it had cutties. Better now it has proper sus, but still needs RCA's... still bump steers to much.

[ae71]

dude, your talking shit.. i drove the back roads home today and i didnt feel it bump steer once...

i think that you dont know what bump steer is fooool,

oh and kent your getting on in the gob. you edited my FARKIN title again. dosent mew with new oil BEEEAAAACH

[Bustin_86]

mewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Sounded tuff man, siff you changed the oil.

You remember to take your springs? My room looks like a fucking warehouse.

[blair]

i just lol'd.
reading most of this thread.

bitches! :D

but yeh anyway rad car haha pig... :o

[ae71]

far too pig for my liking. maybe getting some more paint for freeeeeeeeee


yes new oil healped heaps, now actualy lubricated the head

[ae71]

mewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Sounded tuff man, siff you changed the oil.

You remember to take your springs? My room looks like a fucking warehouse.[/b]

ill have to paint them the original trd blue when i get around to it, looks more porn.

you should see my shed man, i have tyres stacked outside, 2 motors, a box full of stuff, 3-4sets of wheels. a gear box, t-series random bits of failshaft a few shifters heaps of stuff, will have to sort threw some of it and put soem stuff up forsale soon.

so i cna buy me some brembo rotors :P

[ae71]

http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/7017/1001933xj2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[kewagon]

finally some real wheels on ya car, got a whole car pic?

[ae71]

haha yeah,

na no pics, have to get front lip on first

[F31N7]

nice build man engine setup is 90% identical to mine, need more pics :)

[ae71]

i almost got my camera out the other day actually, but then i got distracted haha

i got some studs and nuts for my bolt-on spacers the other day. i tried them, need to do something with the front guards before i can put them on..