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rthy
31st January 2007, 02:57 AM
Lock spacers (as shown below) are a small spacer that goes onto the end of the steering rack shaft on either end. It allows the steering arms to move further into the steering rack to allow for more lock. I have been told it gives about 7 degree more angle with the spacers I used and it reduced my turning circle by about half a meter. It is a very cheap upgrade at $25 to $30 or easly machined if the option is there. This will push your tow right in so a wheel alignment is really needed a short time after having this done. Unless there is some damage or a different set up is used then there should be enough factory adjustment in the steering arms to allow for it. It isnt necessary normally to remove the steering arms or rods to install these.

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/8/4/3/128464.jpg




Here is how I installed mine:


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/8/4/3/128465.jpg

Looking under my sprinter this is how it is standard, It has the rubber steering boot on either end of the steering rack with a clamp on either side.

- Undo the first clamp (1) with a screwdriver, can be real hard to get to.
- Using some plies squeeze the second clamp (2) and slide it off
- Slide the rubber boot off as much as possible



http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/8/4/3/128466.jpg

This is what you end up with after the boot is slid down, the end clamp (1) can be left in that position, the boot needs to be slid off the end of the shaft (to the right for the drivers side), to do this it may be needed to remove the steering rod clamp (5) to fully slide the boot out of the way. Alternatively a second person could hold the boot to one side while the rack is being worked on.



http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/8/4/3/128467.jpg

With the boot moved to one side the rack end ball joins are revealed. To undo the rack end two spanners are needed. I found however the locking tab (2) was getting in the way of my spanner so I bashed it out of the way.

- If locking tab (2) is bend over the flat secttions of the rack end then bend it away using a screwdriver and a hammer as done so in the picture. When taking the rack end off care must be taken to not twist the steering rack in any way, putting force on this may well damage the steering rack.

- Place a 24mm spanner on the steering rack flat section (1)
- Place a 30mm spanner onto the rack end ball joint (3)
- While holding the 24mm spanner still, turn to undo the 30mm spanner
- Completely remove the ball end and throw away the locking tab (2)



http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/8/4/3/128468.jpg

Some locking compond suck as Loctite is recomended for the rack end because the ball joints previously has a locking tab as a saftey but this can no longer be used.

- Place the lock spacer onto the thread that is on the end of the steering shaft
- Use some locking compond onto thread
- Screw ball joint back onto steering rack
- Tighten and re-assemble in reverse order as earlier and repeat process for other side.
- Get a wheel alignment

Gilly
31st January 2007, 08:08 AM
nice write up

you've just reminded me i have a pir of these spacers AJPS accidently sent me (but let me keep = CHAMPION) i can use them on the 70, combined with an 86 rack

how much thread still goes in to the rack itself? obviously still enough just curious as to how much roughly. that is my only doubt with spacers of this type.

rthy
31st January 2007, 11:00 AM
about 12mm by memory, just enough to use the maximum thread strength

Gilly
31st January 2007, 11:22 AM
Thanks Sam

will definately use them on the 70.

RobertoX
31st January 2007, 11:23 AM
nice write up, you saved me the effort

enjoy!

DRFT - 86
31st January 2007, 01:04 PM
nice work, been looking to get a set of these myself in the near future...

ke70dave
31st January 2007, 08:08 PM
ohhh i see how it works, thats cool as!!!

i did think briefly about something like this when i was changing rack ends

anyone know how big you can make the spaces and still get a reasonable amount of thread on the rack ends?

also, cheers for the write up, done really nice and easy to understand http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/2thumbs.gif

rthy
1st February 2007, 12:05 AM
ke70dave, about 6mm I think, I need to recheck some time.

mc68
1st February 2007, 02:15 AM
just an idea for you dave, see if you can get hold of locking tabs for your stock and sell them with the spacers you already sell...

good/bad idea? im sure people will pay the extra little bit for new ones http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/smile.gif

RobertoX
1st February 2007, 08:24 PM
looking into it

rthy
1st February 2007, 08:25 PM
whats a locking tab?

mc68
1st February 2007, 09:06 PM
you wrote said write up sam, its in the 4th photo http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

Gilly
1st February 2007, 10:11 PM
prolly a bit late, but any chance of before and after lock pics??

rthy
1st February 2007, 10:43 PM
mc86: thats the locking tab I thought you might of meant but you asked dave about one he had and it threw me off. What did you mean with the sujestion to dave? the spacers cant be run with the locking tab

gilly: before and after at which stage? once the boots back on you cant tell the difference.

otherwise just look at the third pic and then at the forth one and imagine it tightened up.

rthy
1st February 2007, 11:28 PM
I own 2 sprinters so it isnt too late, let me see what I can do ok guys? I can tell youright now the difference isnt real big though

Gilly
1st February 2007, 11:41 PM
yeah what boobie avatar man said

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/laugh.gif

rthy
1st February 2007, 11:43 PM
hehehehheeh

yeah this weekend I will need to remember to bring my camera when i am near where my other car is.

By the way Blinky these two are really distracting, hehehe

ae86 drifter
8th March 2007, 12:45 PM
well this is a photo of the lock u can get,thats with pwr steer arms and the spacers,i also still run the locking tabshttp://img225.imageshack.us/img225/3889/dsc0629kr5.jpg

deleta
10th March 2007, 11:08 PM
and if u get the ajps ones they go only in the pasanger side and u gotta reset your steering rack which is easy as.
http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/5663/p3070454yk9.jpg
Said lock spacer

Konakid
11th March 2007, 11:51 PM
and if u get the ajps ones they go only in the pasanger side and u gotta reset your steering rack which is easy as.[/b]

Explain....im interested

EDIT: Can a bolt in spacer be added on one end and a slip on one on the other? Anyone know? Is there enough adjustment in the tie rods to allow for the increase in length? Cheers

balistic
12th March 2007, 10:27 AM
Do these make the steering ratio any quicker?

roadsailing
12th March 2007, 12:07 PM
Do these make the steering ratio any quicker?[/b]

no they dont

RobertoX
13th March 2007, 10:46 AM
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and if u get the ajps ones they go only in the pasanger side and u gotta reset your steering rack which is easy as.[/b]

Explain....im interested

EDIT: Can a bolt in spacer be added on one end and a slip on one on the other? Anyone know? Is there enough adjustment in the tie rods to allow for the increase in length? Cheers
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Kebin
19th April 2007, 10:07 PM
Where to get from?
How much?
Postage cost?

rthy
19th April 2007, 10:52 PM
pm dave (ajps) he will take care of you

klusio
20th April 2007, 12:04 AM
My KE70 has more lock than my AE86 I would keep the KE70 rack and use spacers might even try using the KE70 rack in the AE86.

Gilly
20th April 2007, 10:32 AM
My KE70 has more lock than my AE86 I would keep the KE70 rack and use spacers might even try using the KE70 rack in the AE86.[/b]

yeah my ke used up until yesterday a ke70 rack with slip on spacers and p/s arms

now has 86 rack housing with quaife quick rack and p/s arms

had more lock before i reckon, need to suss it properly though.