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ae71neo
24th December 2008, 11:26 AM
I thought this was a good thread from the old forums. Gives people some advice on what tyres to choose for the skids.

Here is what i use:

Front - 185/60/14 Bridgestone RE001
Rear - 185/60/14 Nankang 611

I find the nankangs provide grip and they last for a while. I've only had one delaminate so far (out of about 10) because i forgot to swap them left to right. But yeah, i rate them.

Robo86
24th December 2008, 11:31 AM
Front - 185/60/14 Bridgestone GIII (Keen for RE001 on next tyre change)
Rear - 185/60/14 Kenda Komet (Much love!)

johl
24th December 2008, 11:38 AM
front 195/50/15 proxes 4
rear 195/50/15 nankang ns2. love the feel of them. hate the low life span

Ae86sam
24th December 2008, 12:40 PM
Federal 595 195/45/16 front and rear..

But just started running Hero 195/55/16 on the rears and they have a tad more grip, but you have to run them backwards at the moment cause the lap is facing the wrong way and they will just delam if you run them forward.. Doesn't affect the grip unless its raining..

Both are awesome tyres and i would greatly recomend...

orange32
24th December 2008, 03:17 PM
do you have sponsorship or get good prices for hero tyres Sam?

Hit me up for a price on 235/45/17 if you can, I'm keen to try something new.

595's are perfect for my power to grip ratio at the moment though.

-Zac

johl
24th December 2008, 03:47 PM
pretty sure he gets them at a1 same as mat713. like less than 80 a tyre

driftke70
24th December 2008, 04:49 PM
front rt615 falken semis
rear ze912 falken streets
both in 195 60 14

Roollla.83
24th December 2008, 08:25 PM
Yea the guys get them from my work (a1 supercheap tyres)

Pmed orange32

skaney
24th December 2008, 08:59 PM
Re001s on the front.

Using Goodrides (not sure of the code) on the back. Cheapest 185/60s from my local tyre place.
Im pretty happy with them, they were damn grippy at first now their starting to loosen up and have a very progressive slide, and look great stretched.

ToySprinta
24th December 2008, 09:38 PM
Use 205/50/15 Federal 595RS on the front
195/55/15 Federal 595EVO on the back :)

Hopefully gonna use RS's all round next year

steroidchickens
25th December 2008, 08:06 AM
toyo proxes 4 195/50r15 up front. good cheap steer tyre.

recently tried 195/50r15 sumitomos on the rear. they were great. one of the best tyres i have used on the rear. diddnt delaminate

nexen n2000 205/50r15 i usually run on around 18psi. they last ages with ok grip. dont delaminate

nankang ns2s 195/50r15 bgood grip but last about 2 sessions (10 laps) usually delaminate

falken ze312 literly lasted 5 laps, not even a session. too soft. these did delaminate

clear 195/50r15 lasted a while with 24psi and diddnt delaminate

toyo proxes 4 195/50r15 great on the rear. awsome grip and lasted ages without delaminating.

all i can think of at the moment.

letsgohunting
25th December 2008, 12:48 PM
At the moment running on my s14:

Bridgestone re070 semi slicks on the front
Khumo something or other sport tyres on the back with a v tread. 203s or something.

The re070s are brilliant - they wear well, are super responsive, super grippy, good in the wet.
The khumos are surprisingly versatile and have lasted really well with a bit of abuse.


Next change I'm going Federal 595rs semis front and probably federal street tyres rear. See how it goes.

ae86
25th December 2008, 07:17 PM
toyo proxes 4 195/50r15 up front. good cheap steer tyre.

recently tried 195/50r15 sumitomos on the rear. they were great. one of the best tyres i have used on the rear. diddnt delaminate

nexen n2000 205/50r15 i usually run on around 18psi. they last ages with ok grip. dont delaminate

nankang ns2s 195/50r15 bgood grip but last about 2 sessions (10 laps) usually delaminate

falken ze312 literly lasted 5 laps, not even a session. too soft. these did delaminate

clear 195/50r15 lasted a while with 24psi and diddnt delaminate

toyo proxes 4 195/50r15 great on the rear. awsome grip and lasted ages without delaminating.

all i can think of at the moment.

hey man can u post up all prices of these tyres ? like proper prices i know u get deals and stuff but id like to stock up some 15's

steroidchickens
26th December 2008, 07:43 AM
hey man can u post up all prices of these tyres ? like proper prices i know u get deals and stuff but id like to stock up some 15's


proxes 4 $113 each

sumitomos $99 each

nexens $125 each

nankang NS2s $89 each

falkens $109 each

antyre clear $65 each

these prices are what i would imagine you would be paying.
find a single tyre shop and keep going back. they will eventually give you better pricing.



also tried some iron man 195/50r15 $90 each. i have heard good things about them but i diddnt like them very stiff. but they did delaminate on me.

crackett
26th December 2008, 10:06 PM
I'm running jap Advan Neova's all round and fuck they are sick for grip and skid. Actually nuts.

I said it before, but Kingstar's are dirt cheap and they haven't delaminated at all on my turbo car.

Going to get some Bridgestone RE070s or RE555 sooon and a pair or RE010s, should be interesting comparison between the semis. Don't think you can get RE070s or RE555 which sucks.

Has anyone skidded on Yokohama Advan V103?

Fozz
26th December 2008, 11:38 PM
im too cheap to run new tyres so i use 2nd hand what ever i can get for cheap

ae71neo
4th January 2009, 04:24 PM
I might have to get some prices for your kenda's, robo. Nankang prices just keep on going up and up... (probably the same with all overseas tyres though)

Robo86
5th January 2009, 01:47 AM
yer bro hit them up, hard to beat for the price, best part is they DONT delam

Water Boy
5th January 2009, 12:20 PM
For cheapo's like me just hit up your local friendly tyre joint for the cheapest tyres possible 8|

FLT LNR
7th January 2009, 11:43 AM
Im on the coast so the federal warehouse is down the road....i run there semi slicks 205/50 r 15 on my front $140 a tyre.......(best tyres ever)
and federal formoza 195/55 r 14 on my rear.....$70 a tyre (not best grip but they last and give good smoke)

All yokohama advan tyres are highly recommended if willing to pay the price.....

Roollla.83
7th January 2009, 06:41 PM
Im on the coast so the federal warehouse is down the road....i run there semi slicks 205/50 r 15 on my front $140 a tyre.......(best tyres ever)
and federal formoza 195/55 r 14 on my rear.....$70 a tyre (not best grip but they last and give good smoke)

All yokohama advan tyres are highly recommended if willing to pay the price.....


^^ Try out, Hero Milanza's .. Lasting longer then the feddy's

marvis
7th January 2009, 07:35 PM
What are some good 195/60/14 for the front?

Robo86
7th January 2009, 08:03 PM
unless its like a 10 man run 185/60 GIII or 185/60 RE001

Konakid
7th January 2009, 08:40 PM
pluuus onneeeee

racsov
7th January 2009, 08:44 PM
at the last all day drift day my kendas got a big gouge in them where the belts joined was waiting for it to pop all day but it never did. win win tyres for the money, although id say alot of tyres around that price range have hard long life compounds and would work well. anything silica is fail to skid on.

for steerers im in love with RE001s but might try some fed 595s and see if they are as cracked up to be or if everyone uses them cause theyre cheap though mecury..

racsov
7th January 2009, 08:47 PM
and yeah never buying any tyres over 205 unless i get 10js. muffin top fitment SUCKS BALLS.

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/1092/shit002rv5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Roollla.83
7th January 2009, 09:21 PM
What are some good 195/60/14 for the front?

marv, im trying out the cheaper hero's next month at qr?

ill let you know..

Come out.. i still owe u dosh.. ill hit u up with some. :) pm me

marvis
7th January 2009, 09:33 PM
racsov, do you run 185's on the front of the R31?


unless its like a 10 man run 185/60 GIII or 185/60 RE001

It's for a celica.

Robo86
7th January 2009, 09:41 PM
185 will probs be fine... thats the stock tyre size right?

i used to run 195/60 bridgestone firehawks they were not bad steerers but yer gIII owned em

racsov
7th January 2009, 10:12 PM
185s are too small for something with an RB imo. going with 195s all round

marvis
7th January 2009, 10:30 PM
I think 195's are stock robo. Got 185's on the rear though aand running 185 semi's on the front which are sweeet.. But Ive read around that 185 is too small for the front.

racsov
7th January 2009, 10:38 PM
for drifting? depends on your driving style but yeah def run stretch

marvis
7th January 2009, 10:59 PM
For sliding yes. My driving style is.. Shit? Bigger rims soon, only got 7's at the moment.

Konakid
8th January 2009, 02:07 PM
rascov what alignment setting did that to them?

thought your car had plenty of camber?

Much castor

crackett
8th January 2009, 07:46 PM
Now running brand new Maxxis MAV1's and they are dope! No delam as yet, and a pretty quiet road tyre as well. Have some RE040 and RE050 second handies I'll chuck on soon which should be sweet.

racsov
8th January 2009, 08:14 PM
rascov what alignment setting did that to them?

thought your car had plenty of camber?

Much castor

dunno exactly i did it with a tape measure but toe should be around 0, shitloads of pos castor, prob bout 3 deg of neg camber. running 40psi to reduce flex but it didnt help much. wheels were 6.5s :/ turn 2 i would have to ease into the corner and wait for the tyres to lean over before kicking it. you can see in the photos how its riding on the sidewalls. stretched tyres will fix this partially but ill have to reduce the castor a bit. its fucking slow and unstable at high speed, you cant change directions quickly under grip its fucking homo. new changes for this upcoming prac season should fix this

ae86hachiroku
8th January 2009, 09:55 PM
You've all heard it from me before..

RE-01/RE-01R/RE-11

Once you go those you'll never go back.. The ultimate tyre, sidewall that you can barely move. Unfortunately their close to impossible to get now because of our poor economy and rate to Japan.

And worthy mention goes to RE88's. The ultimate fun tyre, stiff as rock, lasts a decade of sliding, and shit compound equals super long happy slides.

GIII's are one of the worst tyres for high speed drifting, sidewall flex is insanely bad, so much that it starts chopping the thread on angles. Thank god their no longer in production.

RE001 are awesome for the price, but performance wise, their nothing special, sidewall was mildly improved from the GIII, (still has the angled thread chop), compound however and grip, was increased quite a bit. Watchout for the Australian made ones, the casing line isn't made as nice as the Japanese made ones, therefore making it prone to early delamination.

Take note however, my opinions of some of these tyres may not ring true as a fully braced AE86 would be putting a lot more force onto the tyres than a less stiff example.

k.aaron
13th January 2009, 11:02 PM
Whatever bald tyres I can find..

worked
22nd January 2009, 10:50 PM
they don't make re88s in a good size anymore =(
i want some woeful 195/50/15s for the street to make me feel like i've got heaps of grunt.

shichi~
22nd January 2009, 11:04 PM
last time i got yoko C drives were about 100 each 185/60/R14

fly ryder
23rd January 2009, 09:40 PM
you are all rich kids,
i just go to the tyre shop n get a stack of barely legal second handies
+ 2 tyre levers
+ BP servo tyre inflator
= piggy scratched wheels and dori action

no money involved at all

Mickey H
23rd January 2009, 09:54 PM
^+1. Ive been saving all the old tyres from work, going to put them on some stockies for cheap skid rims.

obey wan boenny
26th January 2009, 12:40 AM
I have Falkens up front now and anything half bald for the rear, getting 185/60 RE001s for front runners after next dwipt prac :D
also i need to start running some new low grip rears, as changing tyres half way through the prac to a different brand / level tyre sucks n i have trouble getting used to it for a few runs.

worked
26th January 2009, 10:53 AM
dead right
i'm surprised more people haven't posted up some 'low grip' new tyres to buy

Clinton
4th February 2009, 11:17 AM
has anyone run those supercat tyres from bridgestone on the back?

comments?

Konakid
4th February 2009, 11:27 AM
Heard they are crazy grippy, like unbelievable.

Running some Goodride 185/60's on 8's atm, crap tyres, sidewall flex like nothing else.

What are Kenda Comets like for sidewall flex? Having a hard time trying to even find them in S.A

driftke70
4th February 2009, 01:26 PM
delamination is an interesting concept, it has ties to how the tyre is made, if the tread over laps, it makes a high spot on the tyre, which most cheaper tyres do, if you driver against the flap, when you wheel spin it will just tear it off, but if you drive so it following the overlap, then it will take longer to delam, the better the tyre normally, the less overlap.

orange32
4th February 2009, 08:49 PM
has anyone run those supercat tyres from bridgestone on the back?

comments?


A friend of mine (used to be marke70 on old forums) uses them on his ae71. He reckons they are by far the best tyre he's ever used. A new pair lasted 3 archerfield days and 1 at QR and were grippy 'till the end.

On another note, I used toyo T1R's last friday night and was extremely disappointed. They were great for the first 1 - 2 laps but after that became very skaty on the rear due to heat (they were crazy hot after 3 laps). The fronts got very slippery and made my car a pig to drive as well.

I have a friend who can get a me a good price on kumho tyres. I'm going to give them a shot, if they are crap, i'm going back to 595's. They are the best I've used so far.

marvis
4th February 2009, 09:02 PM
How hard is it to swap tires with levers etc?

crackett
4th February 2009, 09:12 PM
On a 14 it's not that hard if you know what your doing, but you will need to have a manual bead breaker. A mate can do it in about 10 minutes (a pair). Most people will find it hard pumping them up though if they are stretching tyres unless they have a bead blaster.

driftke70
5th February 2009, 12:45 AM
can break beads a few ways, driver over the rim on its side with another car, or a piece of wood, a hammer and some spray lube.

Ksevn-T
5th February 2009, 02:50 PM
what PSI's is everyone running?

johl
5th February 2009, 03:00 PM
34 all round, track and street, i dont change it

ae71neo
6th February 2009, 01:06 AM
Depends on rear tyre. If its got a bit of grip about 40-45. If not usually about 35.

Konakid
6th February 2009, 01:41 PM
Same goes, around 40 rear, 36 front, for skids.

Robo86
6th February 2009, 02:34 PM
yeh me too 40 rear 36ish front

crackett
6th February 2009, 06:35 PM
Unless you have a 4k with RE001's on the rear I would run 34 in the rear. Actually a noticable difference of controll with less pressure.

biggo
17th February 2009, 07:44 AM
Anyone tried Bridgy Turanza ER030's?

Scabbed a pair from work put em on but yet to drive it. But the Treadwear states theyre softer than RE001's!

deleta
28th February 2009, 08:47 AM
Went out last night in a mates car to qr, and we used kumho ku36's on the front and ku17's on the back as well as 595's. all 6 tyers were barnd new. the fronts were great apart front the it were i love tapped th wall cause i was being a noob. and in the rear the difference between the 595 and ku17 was redicilious. the 595 would just get past the apex and slow down a lil and just bake. were as the ku17 when u got past the apex u could feel them still throwing u around. So yah im not runninf 595;s agian and definatly running the kumhos. Lol but yah i work at kumho so im kindof bias. if u guys want cheep hookups option one sells our product very cheep.

FAST EDDIE
28th February 2009, 10:48 AM
I use195 50 15 grid 3s on front as i always have run from 28-32psi depending on weather

recently tried 195 50 15 re001s on th rear, after years of using indonesian junk, and loved em have to push hard tho to keep the car sliding and not understeering. tried 35psi but might lower that a bit. just bought 10 of them for g1! anyone want to sponsor me?

crazy86
1st March 2009, 03:18 PM
i had my first drift prac on friday night and got to test the T1Rs out. They are out to replace the R1Rs so i have been told. my opinion of them is that they are a much less grippier tire then the R1R but still allow good speed. They can get very loose quickly if you drive them really hard but also makes it easier and smoother to drift. They only lasted me 3 laps where as the R1Rs i can get about 5 or 6 laps of awesome grip and crazy speeds.

ae71neo
6th March 2009, 05:58 PM
Could'nt get my usual Nankangs, so got some achilles platinum. No idea how these are going to go. Ill let you know after sunday!

Gonna get some prices on those kendas and supercats though. Need to find a new shop i think...

Robo86
6th March 2009, 06:03 PM
kenda kenda!

im interested so see how those achilles go man how much were they

blair
6th March 2009, 06:11 PM
^ they are hell grippy man! im struggling to spin em :(

fuck im weak.

Robo86
6th March 2009, 06:15 PM
kendas? fuckin get into it hahah. na they do grip up.. good at qr

ae71neo
6th March 2009, 06:22 PM
$70 each.

marvis
6th March 2009, 06:24 PM
How do comets go? I want something slippery and stretch's good.

70XIN
7th March 2009, 12:07 AM
nah they aren't even spelt right lol, "komets"

and rob swears by them, dont delaminate either, just wear down to complete slicks

Simon-KE70
4th May 2009, 09:03 PM
who's tried toyo Proxes 4's in 195/50/15's? keep to hear peoples thoughts on them

ae71neo
5th May 2009, 08:43 PM
toyo proxes 4 195/50r15 great on the rear. awsome grip and lasted ages without delaminating.

From steroidchickens on the first page.

Simon-KE70
5th May 2009, 08:53 PM
ahh completly missed that, cheers.

anyone else recommend something thats decent, grippy and not too hard on the budget? also want something that will not delam.

crackett
5th May 2009, 08:58 PM
Anyone here tried Maxxis? Rate them highly!

Robo86
5th May 2009, 09:02 PM
i have some maxxis on the back atm, street tyres though. got no grip lol 185/60s

crackett
5th May 2009, 09:05 PM
Are they MAV1's or P1's?

obey wan boenny
6th May 2009, 05:39 PM
Anyone bought Kenda Komets in Adelaide? im keen to try em, everywhere i ask has no idea where to get them

Konakid
6th May 2009, 06:29 PM
Pretty much cant get em in adelaide dude, i tried haha.

obey wan boenny
6th May 2009, 07:05 PM
Dammit :( i wanna find somthing good to use from new. mismatched 2nd handies suck :(
Robo send us down some? lol
Kona what rears did you run on your lala outing?

crackett
6th May 2009, 07:43 PM
Actually you should be able to get some sent down cheaply. I'm working out on finding where currently. A guy I know got 21/45/17 RE001's the other day for his WRX shipped from a Melboure store for around 600 which is rediculous.

Konakid
6th May 2009, 08:02 PM
Dammit :( i wanna find somthing good to use from new. mismatched 2nd handies suck :(
Robo send us down some? lol
Kona what rears did you run on your lala outing?

Just ran some 80% worn hankooks or some shit haha, worked sweet.

Simon-KE70
17th May 2009, 06:59 PM
can get firenza's which are pretty good for the money. about 80 bucks in a 15inch last ages and grip well

driftke70
18th May 2009, 06:03 PM
i was just going to say something,

dont get too caught up in brands, most manufacturors will have more difference between models than between brands. Compare apples to apples.

also i used to sell both komets and achelies, the latter seemed to have a nice tread design for drift, foward grip, sideways slip,
komets are fucking shithouse for a replacement on a car or something, but if you want to slide on them they will give you the grip and more longlivity than most. they have their tread faces laterally and close, so they dont chunk out. Also less thick layers of ply, rather than more of thin, hence good delamination.

racsov
18th May 2009, 09:00 PM
they do delam and chunk about a bit but they hold together well enough.. and they turn BLUE for some reason LOL

best tyres ive used for life are michelin energy Xs for dumpster tyres they just keep going..

driftke70
18th May 2009, 10:09 PM
yeah those michi are good, kinda soggy in the sidewall but other than that pretty good,

i love my dragons, can go past em

Robo86
18th May 2009, 11:07 PM
how much are these dragons in 185/60 man

driftke70
19th May 2009, 01:28 AM
they float around 115

ae86
19th May 2009, 06:02 PM
how do re0001s go in the wet ? needa get rid of aquaplane

Konakid
19th May 2009, 11:19 PM
very well.

svenmate
20th May 2009, 11:27 PM
^^ +1

ae71neo
21st May 2009, 11:43 AM
Yeah, they didnt go to bad on a wet track yesterday.

ae86
21st May 2009, 12:32 PM
thanks guys, yeah my yoko c drives arnt doin too koots in the wet and that isnt spirited driving either, then again i need a wheel alignment again...

s14seriesII
28th May 2009, 12:01 AM
kuhmo ku36 fronts very good but are no re55 or re540

kuhmo ecsta spt rear very grippy on my road car but not enough on the track car but time will tell.. the only good thing was i used only 6 of them in a day

might be tryen some r1r on the rear next praccy day

oh and slippery tyres for low power use sava intensa, darkhorse 50, falken ze329 and the old ze326, badyear eagle f1, badyear eagle ventura?? hmm i will try more later

maxxis maZ1 are very grippy for fronts but tear apart in chunks on the rear and mav1 are not too good for anything

worked
28th May 2009, 12:42 AM
oh and slippery tyres for low power use sava intensa, darkhorse 50, falken ze329 and the old ze326, badyear eagle f1, badyear eagle ventura?? hmm i will try more later


THE BEST CHOICE!!! i've never had anything bake as hard as savas, made my 60kw sprinter look like it had 260rwkw. wish you could still buy these babies new

bigm
28th May 2009, 01:34 PM
savas do smoke like crazy,
have them on the daily lol, but yes shitty steer tyres

Robo86
28th May 2009, 01:58 PM
how do savas go in the grip/wear department on the back

shawn_26
28th May 2009, 08:00 PM
I have Advan Neova's for steer tyres. But keen for something slippery as fark for my 15x8rears. Can someone reccomend me something readily available that is super slippery in say a 185/50/15 or near?

Simon-KE70
29th May 2009, 07:14 PM
well after the DSC comp just gone i can now say that i love RE001's in both the dry and the wet... they are simply awesome value for the money for a steer tyre.

i also ran Toyo proxes 4's on the back in both conditions and in the dry i found them way too grippy for my set up and power (190 rwkw and 6/4.5 kg springs) with 28 psi cold in them to start with... next prac session i upped them to 40 psi cold and they were awesome.. just the right amount of grip and slip.

didnt delam and they lasted a while too... was pretty happy with that over all.

ae86hachiroku
31st May 2009, 05:42 PM
Yeah your problem would have been 28psi to start with, waaay to low.

Simon-KE70
31st May 2009, 07:56 PM
not really... after speaking with other guys who run them but in 17's and with lots more HP, they are the best at 30psi HOT temps and then kepty at that for the best grip and best long life. so starting at 28psi cold isnt low at all.

they are the sort of tyre that works best at a lower temp... just my car doesnt have the power to carry long slides with a real grippy set up.

also in the wet i was running them at 24psi and they gripped up REAL well... was able to do 4th gear scando's into the tyrewall and bring it back and nail it lap after lap... with higher press's it just wouldnt do it

s14seriesII
31st May 2009, 08:14 PM
my most recent drift attemps a was running half worn re540s potenza semi slicks

but they started to delam shortly after i clicked 4th gear at the end of the baskerville drift section

i am now thinking i need more grip

ae86hachiroku
31st May 2009, 08:26 PM
not really... after speaking with other guys who run them but in 17's and with lots more HP, they are the best at 30psi HOT temps and then kepty at that for the best grip and best long life. so starting at 28psi cold isnt low at all.

they are the sort of tyre that works best at a lower temp... just my car doesnt have the power to carry long slides with a real grippy set up.

also in the wet i was running them at 24psi and they gripped up REAL well... was able to do 4th gear scando's into the tyrewall and bring it back and nail it lap after lap... with higher press's it just wouldnt do it


Wet is obviously a different case altogether.

RE-001's in comparison to higher performance tyres are nothing special, so to get grip from them I guess some of those guys would run the low 30's. RE-01R's, Neovas, R1R's need to be much higher, 40+ cold.

Simon-KE70
31st May 2009, 08:56 PM
the guys with R1R's (CTS and Holdfords) run 30 psi hot's in them to get the most grip and life out of them,

anything 40+ will give you awesome smoke but a 3 lap lifespan....

ae86hachiroku
31st May 2009, 09:01 PM
Odd, one of the videos had a segment showing some of D1gp cars even using well into the 50psi's.

Konakid
31st May 2009, 09:07 PM
my most recent drift attemps a was running half worn re540s potenza semi slicks

but they started to delam shortly after i clicked 4th gear at the end of the baskerville drift section

i am now thinking i need more grip

Dont skid on semi's.

Simon-KE70
31st May 2009, 09:10 PM
Odd, one of the videos had a segment showing some of D1gp cars even using well into the 50psi's.
yeah... for the smoke.

they dont last long at those pressures AT ALL

ae86hachiroku
31st May 2009, 09:12 PM
More smoke, but surely they wouldn't sacrifice grip levels for some smoke show? Seeing as how the cars here which are apparently running 30'ish, make shit loads of smoke anyway.

Simon-KE70
31st May 2009, 09:36 PM
D1GP = Show

so yes.... they are all about making more smoke.

anyway im not going to get into an argument about it.. im just letting you know my back to back findings... 28 psi was very very grippy... too much grip for my set up and 40 psi was the perfect balance of grip/slip for the power levels that i had (190 rwkw in a ke70) and this was dry.

in the wet i went ultra low pressures and it preformed really well... until i came up against cars with R1R's lol

lloydious86
31st May 2009, 10:10 PM
have heard some jap d1 competitiors use semi slicks so would make sense if there pumping 40+ pounds into those tyres, am using khumo ku31's atm good grippy using 40pounds in them could go less next time as always wanting to get grippier, anyone been using 595's federals are they good? anyones thought would be killer ta

Konakid
31st May 2009, 10:14 PM
They dont use semis, they use R compund road tyres, eg: RE01R, DIREZZA Z1, ADVAN NEOVA etc etc.

treadwear of 150 ~180 compared to semis of < 100

worked
1st June 2009, 01:23 AM
Dont skid on semi's.

any particular reason? just noticed a few people down here are using them lately....
i'm not in any way trying to jaw off, i'm genuinely interested as to why you think people shouldn't?

H8CHIR6KU
1st June 2009, 01:46 AM
lloydalicious you should ask alex about his experience with 595's. they are so shit. he got like 2 laps out of them before they just chunked out and started delaminating.
i remember johhny k mentioning they feel like they wobble around on the back end. alex had the same

you will find the majority of guys that have success with 595's are those that are running 17's and they also fit them so the tread pattern runs in opposite rotation.

for me its proxy 4's pumped to 40psi. they are pretty grippy, just have to work it a bit more

Johnny_K
1st June 2009, 03:21 AM
For my old NA setup i had RE001 all round with 40 psi upfront (38 to 36 if i wanted more front grip) and bout 45psi rear lol goes like a dream most the time lol

H8CHIR6KU
1st June 2009, 11:37 AM
those bridgestones wont last long with your sr20 setup haha

Konakid
1st June 2009, 04:09 PM
any particular reason? just noticed a few people down here are using them lately....
i'm not in any way trying to jaw off, i'm genuinely interested as to why you think people shouldn't?

They simply heat up too much and delam, they arent made to be spun excessively and put under that much stress. They are a way to soft compound to be drifting on at around 80 treadwear.

Look to use what the D1 and MSC drivers use, top level street tyres such as the RE01R, Dunlop Direzza D1, Advan Neova etc. treadwear around the 150~180 mark.

You can get cheaper taiwan brands that make similar style tyres for much cheaper and that are available here so you could give them a crack.

Of course not everyone has that much coin so i'd just try some RE001 adrenalin bridgestones and see if thats enough grip.

s14seriesII
1st June 2009, 07:21 PM
my semis only delamed because they were worn out..
but they had good grip and make heaps of smoke pity about the cost tho haha

going to be trying the kuhmo semi race ku36 i think it is that im using on the front they should be pretty good on the back for skids

lloydious86
1st June 2009, 09:44 PM
how much do you get the ku36's for? im using the ku31's and theyre sweet last me 6-8laps and havent delamed one yet after about 5-6 track rounds, but i wana go faster lol

Thanx arron!!! may have to look into toyo's proxxes 4 or direzzas just wanna spend slightly over 100 a tyre dont wana go much over that gets too $$$

H8CHIR6KU
1st June 2009, 09:57 PM
speak to alex he can get toyo's for just over a hundred. not 100% sure but the person he gets his tyres off will give you a good deal if you get them thru alex.

crackett
1st June 2009, 10:21 PM
I ran some RE001's one night with 40psi in them, it felt like ice and it was around 30degrees outside. I like the feel of 32psi for dry, and about 28 in the wet.

We put 70psi in a mate DR30 running Nankangs for a burnout the otherday. Almost instant blow out haha. Was some funny shit.

driftke70
2nd June 2009, 08:03 PM
higher psi is usually better for wet grip especially in straight line stuff

s14seriesII
2nd June 2009, 08:15 PM
what ? wet weather usually requires lower pressures i run 44psi in road tyres on the street and in the wet lowered the front to 32 for best grip

and the ku36 i think is around 130 or 140 a tyre

driftke70
2nd June 2009, 10:27 PM
you get to soft and the tyres dont apply enough pressure to squeeze water through the tread, it only reverts back around when you put so much air in the tyre starts to balloon .

s14seriesII
2nd June 2009, 10:32 PM
try running 20psi on 205 tyres and tell me u have lost grip in the wet

aqua plaining is another story, but only an issue with low tread depth unless your driving through floods

driftke70
2nd June 2009, 10:34 PM
with the weight of your car a 205 is too wide in the wet.

as you lower your tyre pressure, its concaving in the middle and your driving more on the outer edges, effectively giving you
a smaller contact area, with more pressure over that contact area, if it was properly inflated the tyre wouldnt have enough weight over
its surface area to bite properly.

lloydious86
2nd June 2009, 10:36 PM
higher psi in the wet is fail.....i always lower myne in the wet and pick up speed instantly, ive used 225's on my 86 farking fast! but mean axle hop :(

s14seriesII
2nd June 2009, 10:37 PM
never had an issue

maybe the 285 on the back of my sub 1200kg 200sx is too wide aswell ? porsche must have it all wrong too

driftke70
2nd June 2009, 10:39 PM
your the one with no traction, not me

s14seriesII
2nd June 2009, 10:41 PM
what i call no traction is prbly a little bit higher grip levels than what most ppl would be familiar with

H8CHIR6KU
2nd June 2009, 10:59 PM
sure you might be riding on the edge of the tyre with lower psi but when you pump it up that high youd be only running on the centre of the tyre. you will find that lower pressure in a tyre is actually more surface area than a tyre with higher pressures.

hence when it comes to grip you see the drag guys running low pressures even with street tyres

driftke70
3rd June 2009, 01:38 AM
what ? wet weather usually requires lower pressures i run 44psi in road tyres on the street and in the wet lowered the front to 32 for best grip

and the ku36 i think is around 130 or 140 a tyre

see heres my point, going down to 32 isnt really letting your tyres down, thats getting them to what they ordinarily should be,

there are too many variables, ie brand and wear on the tyre, the fact the lower psi is allowing for a bit more give in the sidewall which could be cushioning any wrong signals through the wheel.

comparing to your s14 is silly, there is more than 2 variables, ie weight and width of tyre, rear camber for one, meaning your tyre on the silvia isnt riding on 255, in reality riding on 195, your sprinter obviously doesnt have irs.

the higher grip levels are relevant, but because your running more power doesnt mean your lateral grip is any different, the way it transfers onto it is.

As said, semis in 205 that have been through a good heat cycle are not a good gauge.

Someone earlier was comparing to d1, its not a very good comparison, their tracks are different, much more power, crazy setups. MSC is a good comparison on the other hand, even though many comparisons can be drawn between d1 and msc.

use hibino for example, lots of power, 15s, non slicks, plenty of grip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC_DiPPW1Ec

crackett
3rd June 2009, 08:03 PM
EDIT: posted same time as me haha

s14seriesII
3rd June 2009, 08:18 PM
when i ran 285's on the rear of my s14 they wore flat... so how is that equivelant to a 195 ? and to note that it was less than 200kg heavier, so 20% over what the 86 is but with 285 instead of 225

and are you tyring to say you run 32 psi on a dry track with normal street tyres ? thats ridiculas altho not including r1r, re010 or re001 as normal street tyrs either as they are all heavily reiforced similar to semi slicks,

semi slick tyre pressures tend to range between 28 and 32, sometimes as low as 24 with high ambeint temp's

driftke70
3rd June 2009, 11:36 PM
when they heat up they normally go up a few psi

s14seriesII
3rd June 2009, 11:40 PM
all settings stated are cold pressures

crackett
4th June 2009, 12:40 AM
I've seen tyres rise 10psi after just driving on a hot day around 35 degrees. They rise almost 15psi when doing mad skids as well. Haven't tested that on slicks though. I have a set that are just wanting to be chewed though, haha.

Robo86
4th June 2009, 10:49 AM
another drift day yesterday, kenda komets are now called kenda komet plus (different pattern) and they last even longer than the old ones, so yer massive win! i run 40ish psi in them too

hao.
4th June 2009, 01:25 PM
^ I gotta get me a pair of Kenda Komets and try them out. How much do you pay for them Robo? You run 185/60 hey?

Robo86
4th June 2009, 02:09 PM
yea man 185/60, i get them like cost price through a mate for like 135/140 a pair new, they are a bit more in shops though :(

Matt-AE86
4th June 2009, 02:50 PM
not really... after speaking with other guys who run them but in 17's and with lots more HP, they are the best at 30psi HOT temps and then kepty at that for the best grip and best long life. so starting at 28psi cold isnt low at all.

they are the sort of tyre that works best at a lower temp... just my car doesnt have the power to carry long slides with a real grippy set up.

also in the wet i was running them at 24psi and they gripped up REAL well... was able to do 4th gear scando's into the tyrewall and bring it back and nail it lap after lap... with higher press's it just wouldnt do it


Thats a 17" tyre compaired to a 15" tyre Simon. You should know its like compairing shit and bricks. Same tyre design/make/rubber/watever else yes, difference principles.

Brendo
16th August 2009, 05:10 PM
Has anyone tried 185/60 r14 Caliente's? they are reasonably cheap

s14seriesII
16th August 2009, 06:28 PM
have used kuhmo ecsta spt on the back for drifting.. they dont have a whole lot of grip altho they feel grippy on my n/a 4age road car.. run them backwards for lots of smoke and lots of tread wear.. normal rotation for long life and slightly less straight line grip..

have recently used 205/50 adrenalin re001 they are really good 32 psi cold.. lots of grip, smoke, and last ok,

i now have a pair of r1r's to use in the same size to see how they go

Brendo
17th August 2009, 02:35 PM
Alright been round my local tyre shops and got prices on the cheapest shittest 14s, would like some feedback from people that have used these tyres

Goodride
Mayrun
Westlake

and also firestone wide oval as a steer tyre?

Konakid
17th August 2009, 03:14 PM
good ride are soft as hell sidewalls, feel like shit even on a 14x8.

Brendo
17th August 2009, 04:15 PM
cool prob give them a miss then

have u used mayrun or westlake tyres?

Konakid
17th August 2009, 04:30 PM
westlake almost killed me the side walls are that shit.

Mayrun would probably be no better.

The problem with cheap 14's is that even when you stretch them, they still have a 60 profile sidewall that flexes a heap.

Try kenda comets, robo swears by them.

Brendo
17th August 2009, 04:35 PM
Would like to but i cant get them here, someone freight them to me?

anything would be better than shit second hand stuff, i dont fancy going backwards through 4 solid posts at 120 again...

Robo86
17th August 2009, 04:36 PM
walls arnt to bad on Kenda Komets. i run them cause i can get super win prices and easily avalible to me, don't delam and wear fairly perfect.

i wanna try re001 on the back on drift day, price huurts my head though :(

Brendo
17th August 2009, 04:41 PM
Hey robo

If u cbf, should find out how much it would be to get a pair of komets in some rim boxes posted to 7315 for me :D

Or i could give your tyre joint a call

Robo86
17th August 2009, 04:56 PM
yer you could give Roy a ring, he might be a little like weird about sending but meh he's a good bloke so its worth a try :P

Brendo
17th August 2009, 04:58 PM
No worries haha thanks mate

ae71neo
17th August 2009, 05:22 PM
Achilles Platinum. Still enjoying them :)

Even saw them on a car in japan, so they must be legit :P

Robo86
17th August 2009, 06:11 PM
mmm they seem real cheap man, how do they wear? im kinda keen to try :p

ae71neo
17th August 2009, 06:42 PM
A pair of new ones can last me a whole day at Marulan. They get chewed up a bit more at Oran Park, but thats because of the nature of the corners. I use the left overs in the morning, and then put the new ones on after a few sessions and finish the day on those with plenty left over for the morning of the next day. Its all a cycle haha.

Robo86
17th August 2009, 07:29 PM
haha yer me and nick do the same thing, the first run of the day features no grip :P

keen to try them, how much u paying for a pair? 185/60

ae71neo
17th August 2009, 07:47 PM
$140 for a pair.

Robo86
17th August 2009, 07:48 PM
nice, will talk to my tyre guy see what he can get in :)

ae71neo
17th August 2009, 08:35 PM
Yeah, give them a go man. Ill have to try some of those kenda's you run.

benzo
18th August 2009, 01:06 PM
westlake almost killed me the side walls are that shit.

Mayrun would probably be no better.

The problem with cheap 14's is that even when you stretch them, they still have a 60 profile sidewall that flexes a heap.

Try kenda comets, robo swears by them.

Goodride, Westlake and Mayrun. I've tried them all only with a 4K and they're all horrible

not surprised to hear Henry say they nearly killed him

Brendo
18th August 2009, 05:02 PM
LOL yeah i thought they were pretty average lol

Better off buying random 2nd hand known brands for like $20 each or buying decent treads for $100+

ke55pig
20th August 2009, 01:47 AM
just after bit of advice for a steer tyre on a ke55 15x6 what sorta width and profile would i be looking at. ?
and also would i be better of with a 13x5.5/6 on rear or 15x6 highly underpowered 4k
what profile and with thanks for the help

Konakid
20th August 2009, 06:24 PM
Ideally you need some 15x7 wheels minimum dude due reduce tyre flex.

195/50 is the most common corolla size and should be sweet.

s14seriesII
20th August 2009, 10:14 PM
15*6 are ok for mucking around with in the wet.. i used nissan trx rims.. always use 195/50R15 tyres get something good and $$$ for the front and whatever 2nd handies you can find for the back.. i recomend adrenalins or toyo r1r as a wet steer tyre.. or maxxis maz1 if you find someone who still has stock of them

and yes use 15's on the back too.. 13's are too floaty/bouncey

ke55pig
21st August 2009, 11:20 AM
but wont the 15 be harder to spin ? eg wider wheel more tread more grip ?
i was thinking 13 cause id run a 165 onthe 5.5" rim so straight edge maybe lil stretch wid say 40 psi cause i dnt really want grip i want it to be able to slide and spin lol.
and i also noticed me 15 ar 6.5" im runiing 195 atmo with straight edge for front shouldd i go to a 185/50/15 ?

ae71
21st August 2009, 01:37 PM
if its a good tyre with a stiff side wall they should be fine on a 15x6.5 rim..

you get more flex at the back due to the nature of how your using the tyre.

trust me a 165 on a 5.5" rim is not going to be stretched. 175 on a 7" rim isnt what i would call stretched either, its more a tight/undersized..

185/50R15 is prob a bit of an expensive size. just got the 195

ke55pig
21st August 2009, 04:25 PM
ok ill just got the 15" alround as long as i can afoord it other wise ill have run something i can get from tyre piles

s14seriesII
21st August 2009, 09:18 PM
run 46 psi in the back and about 32 to 38 in the front depending on tyre used should slide fine.. just make sure the back suspension is hard or on the bump stops..

ke55pig
21st August 2009, 10:02 PM
yea rear is pretty stiff trying to work on that at the moment

ke55pig
22nd August 2009, 03:45 PM
Also would i be better of running 17s on the front ??

Konakid
22nd August 2009, 04:59 PM
hell no.

ke55pig
22nd August 2009, 08:50 PM
ok fer enought lol y there wide id get alot more grip wouldnt i there 17x8s

driftke70
22nd August 2009, 10:42 PM
cause people would laugh at you behind your back

only time you should ever go bigger past 15 is to clear brakes. otherwise you have more unsprung mass, more expensive tyres, gayer looking rolerskate, fitment is so wack, center of gravity is way high etc.

ke55pig
22nd August 2009, 10:59 PM
ok all gd just wondering but all gd doesnt matter ay !

driftke70
27th August 2009, 05:25 PM
you on acid?

Brendo
28th August 2009, 01:31 PM
LOL dont flame the poor noob...

ke55pig
28th August 2009, 02:05 PM
Well everyone was giving me shit not runnin wide enough wheels.So i thought well ive got the 17x8 in the shed i could run all front or rear.
It was just a question sorry but its how i learn and understand concepts.
Anyway decided im running 13 and 14 on rear 175s

driftke70
28th August 2009, 04:42 PM
6 and 7 inch rims are fine if you dont have a 4age, your going to have to realise that there are better ways of spending your money, to have a car you can attempt to slide in an enjoyable range of scenarios youll need 80-100kw at the motor in a ke. That combined with somewhat decently upgraded suspension. You can spent all day carrying on about this rim with this tyre etc but at the end of the day with an open diff and no power your not drifting, your sliding, never mind power sliding.

Fair enough its how you learn etc. but good is a short word, doesnt need the os taken out of it. you start shortening words your start shortening tempers. People arnt going to want to help someone who deliberately spells incorrectly. Nothing is cheap and labor free in regards to fun times with a car.

Konakid
28th August 2009, 04:54 PM
For a minimum setup i would run 14x7 wheels or 15x7's nothing skinnier.

For tyres go 185/60/14's or 195/50/15's.

ke55pig
28th August 2009, 05:18 PM
I dont care about wheels im sure they will do me just fine The car how it sits at the moment has a locked diff heavy duty rear shocks stiffer rear leafs, stiff front springs/shocks.sigma lcas 25mm spacers extra heavy duty clutch a cam and slight headwork Soundeadining removed aswell as bumpers no rear interior. I just wanna get out there and have a go for now.
Im sorry for the pepole im pissing off i just wanted ideas sorry.

obey wan boenny
28th August 2009, 05:21 PM
I run 14x6.5 front with 185/60/14s and 13x6/6.5/7 rears with varying tyre sizes.
Before i ran 14x8.5 up front with the same tyres and i didnt notice any difference with tire flex. I think my car would have to be setup perfect and i be a lot more skilled before i could notice little things like that.

And when your learning your not going to know mid drift weather your 13s are flexing, or your shocks feel a bit shit or your falling out the stock seat :P

yeah just get out and have a go, good luck with it all :)

ke55pig
28th August 2009, 05:24 PM
yea cheers man thanks for the support guess ill meet alot of u sa guys out there hopefully soon.They Had a velo seat at cashies i wanted but its to small and tight around me waste owell ill wait for some to pop up on here

Robo86
12th October 2009, 06:44 PM
Who's tried RE01R or AD07 on the front of there drift car?

i wanna know what its like compared to a re001 (bit of flex, ok wear etc)

Delazy
12th October 2009, 08:21 PM
Who's tried RE01R or AD07 on the front of there drift car?

i wanna know what its like compared to a re001 (bit of flex, ok wear etc)

ken is your best bet, his been running re01r on 14's for quite sometime now...

s14seriesII
12th October 2009, 08:23 PM
toyo r1r on the front ftw :)

ke70dave
13th October 2009, 11:16 AM
hey where are you guys getting these cheapy tyres from?

someone up there said $140/pair. thats the kind of pricing i want for brand new tyres! (for the rear that is)

ive been to a few tyre shops and the cheapies are still over 100$/tyres

oh yer 195/50/15 im lookin for...

i currently have ku31 (i think, the one below the semi slick) kumho's on the front. brilliant in both wet and dry. seem to be wearing quite good.

shawn_26
13th October 2009, 12:14 PM
Picking up sum Kenda's today from Roy at Bosman Wholesale. 195/50/15. Will see how they go!

ae86
13th October 2009, 12:34 PM
anyone know of any 195/55/14s that are decent for rear?

s14seriesII
13th October 2009, 05:52 PM
hey where are you guys getting these cheapy tyres from?

someone up there said $140/pair. thats the kind of pricing i want for brand new tyres! (for the rear that is)

ive been to a few tyre shops and the cheapies are still over 100$/tyres

oh yer 195/50/15 im lookin for...

i currently have ku31 (i think, the one below the semi slick) kumho's on the front. brilliant in both wet and dry. seem to be wearing quite good.


call into your local bob jane should be able to get bob jane xenon z7 or z1 for around 100$ when theyre on special... same price for kuhmo ecsta spt. when also on special

lloydious86
19th October 2009, 01:17 AM
toyo t1r's ftw on the front, s14series2 how did the ku36's go on the rear? im now switching over to maxxis z1's sports tyre but never got the chance to run the ku36's

s14seriesII
20th October 2009, 09:56 PM
only ran the kuhmo ku36 semi slick on the front so far.. they were awesome grip in the dry.. but in the wet a bit slippery,

been running the R1R on the front now and they are really good wet and dry.. and been running adrenalins on the rear for the ultimate smoke show..

how are you going with getting the MA-Z1 ? i thought they had discontinued and superseeded to the ma-z4s ? i also found the MA Z1 crumbled apart a bit on the rear but are a very good steer tyre

s14seriesII
20th October 2009, 10:01 PM
yeh they werent quite as good as the adrenalin on the rear tho.. they had slightly more grip in straight line wheelspin compared to full lock wheelspin.. but easy to overcome with a few adjustments i guess

FAST EDDIE
21st October 2009, 06:36 PM
me and my mates are using goodride tyres at the drifts saturday shall see how they go 71 a tyre 195 50 15

Brendo
22nd October 2009, 05:17 PM
Pretty sure they are crap, dont commit yourself too much on entry lol

lloydious86
23rd October 2009, 01:03 AM
only ran the kuhmo ku36 semi slick on the front so far.. they were awesome grip in the dry.. but in the wet a bit slippery,

been running the R1R on the front now and they are really good wet and dry.. and been running adrenalins on the rear for the ultimate smoke show..

how are you going with getting the MA-Z1 ? i thought they had discontinued and superseeded to the ma-z4s ? i also found the MA Z1 crumbled apart a bit on the rear but are a very good steer tyre

ok will see using them for the first time at comp in a week, buying them through the wholesaler they had plenty there so dont know about them being superseeded team wheelworks uses them etc adrenalins on the rear would be win! re001's? those would be too much $$$ for me

s14seriesII
23rd October 2009, 06:58 AM
ok will see using them for the first time at comp in a week, buying them through the wholesaler they had plenty there so dont know about them being superseeded team wheelworks uses them etc adrenalins on the rear would be win! re001's? those would be too much $$$ for me



yeh right.. well i still want some more maz-1 for my street cars they are an awesome tyre so much grip wet and dry

and yeh using the re001 adrenalins.. i think trade price is around 175 each..

i went through ten last run :gah: but i dont pay quite that much

Delazy
23rd October 2009, 07:47 AM
superseeded team wheelworks uses them etc
team wheelworkz hasnt been around for 12 months lol...

ke70dave
23rd October 2009, 11:58 PM
any of you blokes had any experience with "admiral" tyres?

gave bosman wholesale tyres a call today, reckons he can do 195/50/r15 admirals for $89 each.

cant be too bad for the rear right?

s14seriesII
24th October 2009, 10:49 AM
should be fine.. its all about how much grip you want and tyre construction..


asked some questions about the MAZ-1 they have 20 of the 195/50 left in stock so i think im gonna buy a few for my street cars

lloydious86
25th October 2009, 09:54 PM
ke70dave, ive used the admirals before didnt give me enough grip but for road/track would be fyne as there cheap tyre. yea my place didnt have any 50's left only 55's in ma z1's

lolwat
8th November 2009, 03:36 PM
what do you guys mean by they dont delam???

Konakid
8th November 2009, 03:42 PM
they dont rip the the tread blocks off the tyres belts and chunks dont go flying.

ke70dave
8th November 2009, 04:17 PM
ke70dave, ive used the admirals before didnt give me enough grip but for road/track would be fyne as there cheap tyre. yea my place didnt have any 50's left only 55's in ma z1's

yer i didn't end up getting the admirals

i got some "sumatomo"

they seem to have ALOT of grip, like i struggle to chirp the wheels in a straight line with my stocko 16v 4age, but unfortunately seem to have a fairly flexible sidewall...can feel it if you give the steering wheel a hard jab.

not bad for $105 each i supposed. cant expect to much for that price.

lolwat
8th November 2009, 05:57 PM
they dont rip the the tread blocks off the tyres belts and chunks dont go flying.
arr VERYNICE:D

sundee
9th November 2009, 10:30 AM
anyone had any experience with toyo proxes 4? front and rear?
or
Yokahama S Drive's

how do they compare to Re001's?

Delazy
9th November 2009, 10:58 AM
steroidchickens was running proxes 4 in the ca18 bus...think he might have made mention earlier in this thread maybe

s14seriesII
9th November 2009, 05:44 PM
proxes4 in an 18 inch size is an awesome tyre

lloydious86
10th November 2009, 01:28 AM
heard good things about proxxes4's on the rear im sure theyd be fyne for our cars for the front also, well used two pairs of ma z1's not that impressed it was a consistent tyre and lasted but not so much extra grip, i think may be due to harder sidewall compared to the khumo and this is stretched also, so think ill try them in 205 with slightly lower tyre pressure should be sorted for grip hopefully, was running 38psi in them last and delammed one also wich sucked.

driftke70
10th November 2009, 02:02 AM
i still stand by pirelli dragons in 185 60 14 allround for a standard 4age/t series 2 way moderate to great suspension setup.
get them for around 100 each, great grip for when you want to grip, and great slide characteristics, good sidewall, dont delam, have good tread depth, grip right till the end even in the wet, predictable etc etc.

My build will have rt615 falkens on the front for a while and because i run 185 60 14 with 250+hp i will be trialing dragons adrenalins ze912 and something cheap like comets all back to back. If none offer the grip i want i will try rt615 on the rear then prox 4 then r1r.

Im also saving for a set of full slicks, not too sure what ill run, prob something bridgestone as I want to try and get an all out time attack time at lakeside and get the whole car dialed in for grip for a few lakeside days. Have a mate who runs 1:01s in a race prepped targa style 33 gtr and 1:03 in a gt3 thats quite standard and really want to beat those times. Have a mate with a sr20det gemini thats quite well setup running rt615 who runs a slippery 1:05 that im assuming ill be able to beat.

crazy86
12th November 2009, 12:28 AM
anyone had any experience with toyo proxes 4? front and rear?
or
Yokahama S Drive's

how do they compare to Re001's?

i am a very big fan of proxes 4 and toyo all round. ive used proxes 4 on the front and they were good but only for so much power and speed of entry's. i upgraded front to toyo R1r's which are super grippy and awesome for fast entry's. only thing for me is after 2 comps ive had some offs due to wear.
proxes 4 on the rear are my fav. great grip level and they wear dead flat and even until you reach steel belts. good bang for buck. if you want fast drift put the R1r's on the rear. super grippy and hard to break traction but fast.

the Re001's deserve props too. ive only used them on the rear and they were great. but they were more expensive and didnt wear perfect.

stay away from federal 535's and 595's in a 15 as in my experience they weren't as good for handling and always delaminated before half worn.
i heard they are good in 17's with no delam. dont know why? anyone had same experience with them?

Konakid
12th November 2009, 12:36 AM
i am a very big fan of proxes 4 and toyo all round. ive used proxes 4 on the front and they were good but only for so much power and speed of entry's. i upgraded front to toyo R1r's which are super grippy and awesome for fast entry's. only thing for me is after 2 comps ive had some offs due to wear.
proxes 4 on the rear are my fav. great grip level and they wear dead flat and even until you reach steel belts. good bang for buck. if you want fast drift put the R1r's on the rear. super grippy and hard to break traction but fast.

the Re001's deserve props too. ive only used them on the rear and they were great. but they were more expensive and didnt wear perfect.

stay away from federal 535's and 595's in a 15 as in my experience they weren't as good for handling and always delaminated before half worn.
i heard they are good in 17's with no delam. dont know why? anyone had same experience with them?

Have to run em backwards apparently.

ToySprinta
12th November 2009, 12:42 AM
Hey, i've been running 15" Federal's for a wgile (they've been helping me out :) )
The 535 and 595 do delam easily because of the tyre compound. the 17's have a different speed rating, which is why they don't delam. Running them in reverse helps though.
I was running 535-evos which were great, awesome grip, good smoke, no delam backwards or forwards.
Now runnning the RS-R which have a huge amount of grip (easily competes with r1r tyred cars), and seem to last longer than the evos too.

sundee
12th November 2009, 01:08 AM
Cheers Thanks for the feedback fellas.

Konakid
12th November 2009, 02:17 AM
535 EVO? Thought they just made the SS535? Whats retail for them in a 195/50/15?

Im keen to give them a try.

s14seriesII
23rd November 2009, 08:47 PM
i am a very big fan of proxes 4 and toyo all round. ive used proxes 4 on the front and they were good but only for so much power and speed of entry's. i upgraded front to toyo R1r's which are super grippy and awesome for fast entry's. only thing for me is after 2 comps ive had some offs due to wear.
proxes 4 on the rear are my fav. great grip level and they wear dead flat and even until you reach steel belts. good bang for buck. if you want fast drift put the R1r's on the rear. super grippy and hard to break traction but fast.

the Re001's deserve props too. ive only used them on the rear and they were great. but they were more expensive and didnt wear perfect.

stay away from federal 535's and 595's in a 15 as in my experience they weren't as good for handling and always delaminated before half worn.
i heard they are good in 17's with no delam. dont know why? anyone had same experience with them?


strange as i get perfectly flat across the tread tyre wear.. same with R1R toyos,

whats everyone paying for tyres ? please quote size and make/model of tyre and wether its trade price or retail.. dont worry about including special prices as they are irrrevelant when trying to compare,

205/50 R15 RE001 adrenalins trade price around 170 to 180 in tas

205/50 R15 R1R toyo trade price nearly 200 in tas .. but im not sure how much of that is freight charge..

sundee
23rd November 2009, 09:09 PM
205/50/15 RE001 Adrenalines. $175 fitted (retail)

s14seriesII
23rd November 2009, 09:12 PM
damn freight to tas sucks :(

driftke70
23rd November 2009, 11:09 PM
you should see how much it cost to get a car down there even if you drive!

sundee
24th November 2009, 06:04 PM
it would be sweet to compile a list of prices in each state that individual tyres are costing.. i have a list at home of quotes from various tyre shops in syd.. ill post details later on

s14seriesII
24th November 2009, 06:16 PM
you should see how much it cost to get a car down there even if you drive!

lol used to tow a go kart trailor over on it a couple of times a year when i used to race at the nationals n shit... not cheap at all :(


and yep we need a price database.. should i start a thread just for prices ?

steroidchickens
29th November 2009, 09:56 PM
proxxes 4 are awsome. had them on front and rear for a while. diddnt delam.

i love sumitomos. i run them on rear and re001 on front. seem to be a good combo.
almost get a whole day out of a pair of sumitomos with 120rwkw. never had one delam either.
at $92 each. alot out there are heaps cheaper but these are made in japan.
my local tyre guy always offers me cheapies for $60 basicly whatever is on special. but not really worth the risk. some are garbage some are good. if he stocked the same cheapies all the time but they are always changing.

Robo86
29th November 2009, 11:14 PM
man what are the model of sumitomos?

driftke70
30th November 2009, 02:32 AM
i use to sell a few sumitomos, not sure what model you ran, but it seemed quite well made, never ran them or really remember seeing them in 15 inch.

one brand i always wanted to try was this random japanese brand that i cant remember the name of, we use to use them for the 12 inch cars. but i looked their page up once and they had 14s in decent sizes and not too expensive, cheaper than most if anything, it was like ohmatsu or something.

steroidchickens
30th November 2009, 08:44 AM
sumitomos are htr200
ran them on the gold car with 200rwkw and they seemed to hold up real well on that to.

i get them in 195/50r15 dont know what else they come in but my tyre guy stocks them.

Robo86
16th December 2009, 02:28 PM
yer seen the htr200 down at the shop. considering it.

still running the trusty kendas at the moment.

tried some random kuhmo 195/60s. were actually really fun, not alot of grip but because they are wider than what i normally run there was still some car speed. wish i could find a tyre like this that didnt chunk away.

lloydious86
1st January 2010, 06:18 PM
tried 205/50 sizing maxxis ma zi's 30ish and above pressures ... epic fail way to grippy only reccomend to big hp 86's as its alot of grip for the small car, back to 195/50 r15 khumo ku31's for now

.ady
1st January 2010, 10:40 PM
30ish pressure? try 60 and see how that goes

s14seriesII
2nd January 2010, 11:14 PM
maz1 should be fine if you have 140ish or more rwkw.. no good if you have much over 200rwkw tho

try the replacement model its the maz4s, i think its a bit harder compound

ke55pig
11th January 2010, 09:43 PM
Question is it ok to run say a 13x7 175 / 65/70/13 on the front and run a 14 or 15 x6 on the rear or does this put everything out of wack

blair
11th January 2010, 10:18 PM
Unless you plan on taking out a drift comp, it will be fine man :)

.ady
14th January 2010, 08:18 PM
has anyone tried/rate bridgestone re88s for the fronts? ive had alook through previous posts havnt much luck besides ken?

Konakid
14th January 2010, 10:12 PM
Hell. No.

racsov
14th January 2010, 10:51 PM
yeah they are probably the shittest tyres available

.ady
15th January 2010, 01:47 AM
Hell. No.


yeah they are probably the shittest tyres available

really? they alright at the back?


You've all heard it from me before..

RE-01/RE-01R/RE-11

Once you go those you'll never go back.. The ultimate tyre, sidewall that you can barely move. Unfortunately their close to impossible to get now because of our poor economy and rate to Japan.

And worthy mention goes to RE88's. The ultimate fun tyre, stiff as rock, lasts a decade of sliding, and shit compound equals super long happy slides.

GIII's are one of the worst tyres for high speed drifting, sidewall flex is insanely bad, so much that it starts chopping the thread on angles. Thank god their no longer in production.

RE001 are awesome for the price, but performance wise, their nothing special, sidewall was mildly improved from the GIII, (still has the angled thread chop), compound however and grip, was increased quite a bit. Watchout for the Australian made ones, the casing line isn't made as nice as the Japanese made ones, therefore making it prone to early delamination.

Take note however, my opinions of some of these tyres may not ring true as a fully braced AE86 would be putting a lot more force onto the tyres than a less stiff example.

not sure if ken is talking about rears but all above tyres he mentions are used on the front so i would also assume RE88s for the front but from the description seem like rears?

Konakid
15th January 2010, 02:03 AM
Its rears.

.ady
15th January 2010, 01:46 PM
hrmmm RE88s or komets? mostly street not hardcore enough to get on track plus theres only track once every few months or something down melbourne

s14seriesII
15th January 2010, 06:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ae86hachiroku
You've all heard it from me before..

RE-01/RE-01R/RE-11

Once you go those you'll never go back.. The ultimate tyre, sidewall that you can barely move. Unfortunately their close to impossible to get now because of our poor economy and rate to Japan.

And worthy mention goes to RE88's. The ultimate fun tyre, stiff as rock, lasts a decade of sliding, and shit compound equals super long happy slides.

GIII's are one of the worst tyres for high speed drifting, sidewall flex is insanely bad, so much that it starts chopping the thread on angles. Thank god their no longer in production.

RE001 are awesome for the price, but performance wise, their nothing special, sidewall was mildly improved from the GIII, (still has the angled thread chop), compound however and grip, was increased quite a bit. Watchout for the Australian made ones, the casing line isn't made as nice as the Japanese made ones, therefore making it prone to early delamination.

Take note however, my opinions of some of these tyres may not ring true as a fully braced AE86 would be putting a lot more force onto the tyres than a less stiff example.
..............



all these tyres sound like use on the rear only.

also
re001 i found have a very stiff sidewall... more than twice as stiff as an R1R.. and mine also wore perfectly flat from new to belts

racsov
16th January 2010, 01:25 PM
re88s are what they put on taxis

ae86
16th January 2010, 06:08 PM
drift taxi zing

ke55pig
17th January 2010, 01:19 PM
What 13" tyres upfront do you guys recomend ? and i guess 175 as a minunum width ?? there going on x7

.ady
26th January 2010, 02:10 AM
achilles ATR's for front end grip shit thing is smallest size they come in are 15s

Evocom
26th January 2010, 12:50 PM
I'm chasing some 195 50 15s for my track car as I'm thinking of entering G1 next month and I'm over running second hand shitters and having to adjust my driving to suit each different pair. I'm after something that is not going to delam easily and offer a reasonable amount of grip at a reasonable price. The car is a 200rwkw ke70 and I'm only chasing rears. Any ideas on who i should call in adelaide?

H8CHIR6KU
26th January 2010, 04:52 PM
toyo proxes 4.

i have seen alex zaffino go thru more than 20 pairs and i havent seen 1 delam yet. btw his 86 is fitted with 400rwhp sr20, but the majority of the time was running 300rwhp. his tyres are almost always run to the belts

biggo
26th January 2010, 06:36 PM
anyone ran the latest cheap tyres called TRIANGLES on the rear?

any shit?

H8CHIR6KU
26th January 2010, 08:10 PM
haha triangles

my mate used them on the drift weekend last week. they were 17's tho. he rated them until the back end started wandering around on him. he said they are the longest lasting he has had tho

biggo
26th January 2010, 08:22 PM
win for me then

$55 ea. cant go wrong

ke55pig
26th January 2010, 08:51 PM
do they come in 13 ??

pen15
26th January 2010, 09:00 PM
nice biggo me and bams_keto both run triangles hold up alright so far lol

cheap as fuck to

Evocom
1st February 2010, 08:45 PM
Has anyone ran Kenda KR09 tyres in a 195 50 15 or at all?

Robo86
1st February 2010, 08:53 PM
^^Get yourself some Kenda KR23's in that size for the rear and youl love them.

havnt tried the kr09.

Delazy
1st February 2010, 09:22 PM
http://www.kenda.com.tw/eng/product/pcr/passenger.htm

benzo
2nd March 2010, 07:44 PM
185/55R14. What is a good steer tyre?

Robo86
2nd March 2010, 08:44 PM
Advan A048/R comes in 185/55/14 but its a semi

can also get KUMHO ECSTA in 185/55 but i dunno about in aus

just get 185/60 re001 and run 8.5s to compensate :P

benzo
3rd March 2010, 03:30 PM
Advan A048/R comes in 185/55/14 but its a semi

can also get KUMHO ECSTA in 185/55 but i dunno about in aus

just get 185/60 re001 and run 8.5s to compensate :P

Don't know if I even want 14s yet, just curious. 8.5s are a no, I like my mild guards

Federal 595SS? I think Matt99 ran them on his panelvan.

My car will not see 60 proifile 14s. ew