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chapl
14th August 2007, 06:00 PM
here is some info for tyre sizes that everyone should run lol

7J= 175/60
7.5J= 185/55
8J= 195/50
8.5J= 205/50
9J= 215/45
9.5J= 225/40
10J= 235/40
10.5J= 245/40
11J= 255/40

in any size from 13" to 16"

:2thumbs:

Shaun
14th August 2007, 06:04 PM
Wow your like the god of all things ROUND!! :D

But i ask what do you run on your weapon, in the tiny pick it does look very cool.

chapl
14th August 2007, 06:15 PM
dont have those wheels anymore^
they were 15x7 -1 with a 195/50

now running 15x8 -4 with 195/45

Shaun
14th August 2007, 06:18 PM
Very Trick :2thumbs:

I'll just PM you from now on every time my WHEEL DEALER in (J) finds a new set for me. and you can tell me what you think.

DavisJD
14th August 2007, 06:24 PM
Whats the go with streching semi slicks, becuase of the better sidewalls is it as neccesary?

breno
16th August 2007, 11:28 PM
165/55 on a 13x7

ae71
17th August 2007, 06:59 PM
yeah those sizes look like a proper fitment more than a actual strech fit.

i almost always use 175/65 on 14x7 and they arnt exactly streched but are a nice under sized fit.

lower the profile is the more tyre tyre will appear streched when under sized.

irl86
17th August 2007, 08:14 PM
hey guys wat would b the lowest profile tyre i can get for a 13" x 7.5 wheel..

breno
17th August 2007, 11:36 PM
hey guys wat would b the lowest profile tyre i can get for a 13" x 7.5 wheel..[/b]

If ur after the stretched look, mabye a 175/60.
but an overall good tyre for that size would be a 185/60.

deleta
18th August 2007, 09:01 AM
hey can u still buy 185/55/14 cause i cant find them anywhere, im about to buy new steerer tyers and i cant find then in that size any where.

Felix
18th August 2007, 10:31 AM
^^^^

I need as well

or even 175

breno
18th August 2007, 02:19 PM
Both are availiable in 185/55R14


http://www.nankangtyres.com.au/prodDetail.php?pid=3

http://www.nankangtyres.com.au/prodDetail.php?pid=4

Konakid
18th August 2007, 04:30 PM
on 14's just run 185/60's, 175 is too skinny for steering on, not enough grip, worry less about stretch and more aobut the tyre that you are running. Buy wide rims if you want stretch, not shitty skinny tyres.

deleta
19th August 2007, 08:13 AM
yah i was after a set of 185 55 14 bridge stone g3's but they no make

ae71neo
19th August 2007, 05:13 PM
I'd run a 185/60/14 on anything from a 14x6 up to 14x9.

FWIW i use 175/65/14s for skidders with 185/60 on a 14x8 on the front.

Felix
19th August 2007, 06:24 PM
I'm going 185 60 14's

on 14x7 and 14x6

maybe a 55's if i can find some

ae71
19th August 2007, 08:16 PM
i use 175/65's on 14x7 rims for the back. not enough grip on the hill on tight corners without a open diff. on the uphill it frys the inside all the time.. without powah.

havning said that i need these narrow tyres to help the car to turn.

Brendo
19th August 2007, 08:57 PM
185 55 14 would be alright for steerers then, i cant fit 185 60, only got 175 65 on atm they not great at all

Stain
23rd August 2007, 06:54 PM
I'd run a 185/60/14 on anything from a 14x6 up to 14x9.[/b]

Are you mad?! 185/60r14 on a 14x9?!

This is 205/55r14 on a 14x9 and I think its border line, any more and I wouldn't want to drive on it...
http://ae86.totalpcss.com/buildlog/55-Stretch.jpg

Quinn
23rd August 2007, 07:32 PM
What do PPL think of a 175/65 on a 14x8
To big?

stefan
24th August 2007, 08:31 PM
i run 185 60 on a 9 nice shape

and 185 60 on a 8.5 no probs eiher

Stain
24th August 2007, 09:34 PM
Post up a pic slippry, I'm curious what it looks like >_>

DavisJD
24th August 2007, 11:17 PM
your all turing into ricers, your forte being streched tyres! Get some grip instead of some 185's!

stefan
25th August 2007, 10:48 AM
195 60 on a 8.5??

much stretch there or more pulled tight?

stefan
25th August 2007, 03:04 PM
on a 14

then there will be guard issues

stefan
25th August 2007, 04:09 PM
rears just need doing

cuzzo
26th August 2007, 12:16 PM
Hey peoples,

is a 195 tyre on a7.5 inch rim legal? need to know for engineering.

stefan
26th August 2007, 01:40 PM
very legal

chapl
26th August 2007, 02:51 PM
i wouldn't say very legal but yeh you could prob get away with it

on the way to melb last week i had a cop scratching his head at 195/45 on my 8"s lol

stefan
26th August 2007, 03:38 PM
how did the cop know they were 8's

stefan
26th August 2007, 08:28 PM
i thought it would have been on the inner of rim

chapl
27th August 2007, 12:12 PM
he had that worried look on his face...

'mate the tyre will just 'pop off"

hahaha

kewagon
27th August 2007, 03:57 PM
what do ya think of 175/7013 on 13x8's for the rear and 185/70/13 on 13x8's for the front?

breno
27th August 2007, 04:28 PM
70 profile is way too massive, i wouldnt run a higher profile than 60 on any size tyre.
Plus tyres with a 70 profile are a really big bitch to get off when they are pulled tiight, atleast the ones i done were.

i run 165/55's on 13x7's at the moment, only because i dont need to use decent tyres. When my car is more setup and i start hitting the track though i will be upgrading to a bigger tyre at the front, 185/55 if possible.

FoB_aE8866
27th August 2007, 05:03 PM
would a 205/50/15 semi's same as street 205/50/15... i really mean would a semi's any than fatter/bigger and streets tyers?...as semi's seem to have more rubber with in them.

yeah my plan is to put on 205/50/15 all round semi's(like TOYO R888) my wheels are Front:8.5'' offset not to sure but look pretty deep dish Rear:9'' offset same comment for the front(a little deeper i think)......So what you people think?!

my car are running ad07 195/50/15 all round no issues.

My car:ae86

Konakid
27th August 2007, 08:22 PM
You dont need to stretch semi slicks as they have very strong sidewalls due to their construction.

If you can fit 215's without scrubbing then they would be best bet but will most likely cause clearance issues if you car is low

FoB_aE8866
27th August 2007, 08:52 PM
You dont need to stretch semi slicks as they have very strong sidewalls due to their construction.

If you can fit 215's without scrubbing then they would be best bet but will most likely cause clearance issues if you car is low[/b]

im planing to put 205/50/15 on front 8.5'' Rear 9'' not for of stretch, i just wantd to have no issues with scrubbing etc..

i love to put 215's but they will have more chance of scrubbing and most likely cause clearance issues if you car is low as you have stated.

that why i ask:below


would a 205/50/15 semi's same as street 205/50/15... i really mean would a semi's any than fatter/bigger and streets tyers?...as semi's seem to have more rubber with in them.[/b]

just wantting to know it wont have to much issues!!

Konakid
27th August 2007, 09:27 PM
Yeah, i wasnt implying that you were trying to stretch them! :lol:

Was more of a generalisation.

Should be sweet dude, they are the same size tyre in theory so they should be fine.

FoB_aE8866
29th August 2007, 07:43 PM
hi guys...yeah im just wondering have any one run a 225/50/15 semi's on the Rear with 9'' wide wheel??...if so any issues may i ask??

yeah im changing my mind on 205's...now i want 225's,yeah 205's a bit too small for 9'' i think, and is for the Rear so i go why not 225's.

below is a pic of my car(yep the pic is taken is japan,yeah it has just landed doing custom clearance rite at Brisbane port now)

http://www.j-specimports.co.uk/photos/N_AE86/114.jpg

http://www.j-specimports.co.uk/photos/N_AE86/118.jpg

http://www.j-specimports.co.uk/photos/N_AE86/135.jpg

http://www.j-specimports.co.uk/photos/N_AE86/145.jpg

By looking at these pics, do you guys i could run 225's ok??


and one more questions when(size of tyers) do the Front tyers start hitting side wall when full locking??

Konakid
29th August 2007, 10:03 PM
hi guys...yeah im just wondering have any one run a 225/50/15 semi's on the Rear with 9'' wide wheel??...if so any issues may i ask??

yeah im changing my mind on 205's...now i want 225's,yeah 205's a bit too small for 9'' i think, and is for the Rear so i go why not 225's.[/b]

This size tyre will most likely cause clearance issues and is very large for a small, light car like the 86.

You should try driving the car first on 205 tyres and then base your decision from your impressions. Almost definately, you will find that 205's will have plenty of grip for such a light car. 205/50's are fine on a 9 also, welcome to stretch!




below is a pic of my car(yep the pic is taken is japan,yeah it has just landed doing custom clearance rite at Brisbane port now)

http://www.j-specimports.co.uk/photos/N_AE86/114.jpg

http://www.j-specimports.co.uk/photos/N_AE86/118.jpg

http://www.j-specimports.co.uk/photos/N_AE86/135.jpg

http://www.j-specimports.co.uk/photos/N_AE86/145.jpg

By looking at these pics, do you guys i could run 225's ok??[/b]

Can't judge without knowing what size tyres they are in the pictures, look like 205's? 225's, will most likely cause severe rubbing in your case unless you jack the vehicle up like a 4wd!



and one more questions when(size of tyers) do the Front tyers start hitting side wall when full locking??[/b]

This depends on the rim width and offset, in your case the tyre would hit the guard long before it hits the chassis rail, given the negative offset of your wheels.

fucking nice car btw, bet you cant wait till it gets here!

FoB_aE8866
29th August 2007, 10:38 PM
Can't judge without knowing what size tyres they are in the pictures, look like 205's? 225's, will most likely cause severe rubbing in your case unless you jack the vehicle up like a 4wd![/b]

195/50 it is...


This size tyre will most likely cause clearance issues and is very large for a small, light car like the 86.

You should try driving the car first on 205 tyres and then base your decision from your impressions. Almost definately, you will find that 205's will have plenty of grip for such a light car. 205/50's are fine on a 9 also, welcome to stretch![/b]

by the sound of it,yeah should try 205's 1st hand...than see what happen!



This depends on the rim width and offset, in your case the tyre would hit the guard long before it hits the chassis rail, given the negative offset of your wheels.

fucking nice car btw, bet you cant wait till it gets here[/b]


so are you saying the more negative offset the better??(for not hitting the guards)......sorry to ask too many questions,i just dont have any idea on wheels tyers.

anyway Konakid thanx for all your uesful tips and the comment you made for my car(i love myself too,) just have to wait a week get to my workshop to get it Rego and stuff.

Konakid
29th August 2007, 10:56 PM
so are you saying the more negative offset the better??(for not hitting the guards)......sorry to ask too many questions,i just dont have any idea on wheels tyers.[/b]

The more negative the wheel offset is, the further the rim edge will sit away from the hub, so further out. A more postive offset will make the wheel sit further 'in' the guard. tyre clearance should only be a problem on the inside chassis rail if the rims are very positive, in your case they arent so your only concern will be rubbing on the outer guard.

kewagon
30th August 2007, 11:28 AM
70 profile is way too massive, i wouldn't run a higher profile than 60 on any size tyre.
Plus tyres with a 70 profile are a really big bitch to get off when they are pulled tiight, atleast the ones i done were.

i run 165/55's on 13x7's at the moment, only because i dont need to use decent tyres. When my car is more setup and i start hitting the track though i will be upgrading to a bigger tyre at the front, 185/55 if possible.[/b]

well i took the wheels in today to ahve the tyres fitted, jsut used some 175/70/13's and some 185/70/13's that i had here, they will do me fine

195's and 205's arnt really avaliable in 13" these days, best ya can get is a set of yokohama advans and they wear out to quick, the fella seemed a bit hesitant to put the 175's on the 8's, will see how he went tonight anyway, he said he could do it with a tube in them

ae71
30th August 2007, 01:13 PM
tube=gay, but good for keeping mass strech on.

205's are still availbe in 13's

i had some 13x7 superlights with 205's on and they stuck out of my unflared front guards.

just remember you can alway flare your guards bigger if need to, but you cant move your chassis rails too easy ;)

RobertoX
6th September 2007, 01:35 AM
tube=gay, but good for keeping mass strech on.

205's are still availbe in 13's

i had some 13x7 superlights with 205's on and they stuck out of my unflared front guards.

just remember you can alway flare your guards bigger if need to, but you cant move your chassis rails too easy ;)[/b]


the tyre stuck out or the rim?

keto
6th September 2007, 03:39 PM
noob question, i read up on tire sizes and shit, but still unsure of some shit!

im running 14x7s all round on my ke70 and in the process of looking for tires, i want something that isn't a really low profile but still has some stretch. because when i dump the keto i dont want the rim to look heaps tiny inside the wheel arch, if that makes sense

Konakid
6th September 2007, 04:03 PM
14" = 185/60 Done.

chapl
6th September 2007, 10:50 PM
295/70/14???

patience
7th September 2007, 01:27 AM
Alrighty,
What size profile would be best on a 15x8 rim on a AE86 without any guard modifications?
I ask as I dont know what difference there would be between a 195/50 and a 195/55, do these affect the accuracy of the speedo, or the handling characteristics?
Cheers again

chapl
7th September 2007, 10:46 AM
check the first post dude
195/50 for 8j

dif between 50/55 is the side wall height, not very noticable

Konakid
7th September 2007, 07:13 PM
ummm...?[/b]

There is no way that rim should have bigger than a 205 on it.

RobertoX
7th September 2007, 08:43 PM
if you dont like stretch get skinnier rims

265s are the gayest monstrosities ever!

put the 17s back on..........

or take the centre caps out at least!

Konakid
8th September 2007, 03:05 PM
are your stretched tyres legal?[/b]

No.



if your car is insured will your insurace cover you with stretched tyres?[/b]

Not insured


Manufacturers specify a recommended and size range for all tyres, i.e 205 recommended on a 7 but allowed on a 6-8 inch rim
side walls were never designed to take the amount of lateral stress stretched tyres put into them and as such will eventually lead to failure and you will be liable for any damages caused as well as the tyre shop that fitted them.[/b]

Tell this to the Japs who have been doing it for years. Fit your own tyres. There is usually a gentlemens agreement with tyre shops and stretching.


Ask an engineer about stretching tyres. My tyres are the ones recommended for these rims and i am currently in consultation with an engineer to make it 100% street legal and thus INSUREABLE. 6 inch tyres on 10 inch rims = ?????????
Comments??????[/b]

If you want a legal, insurable car, buy a stock Barina.......

FoB_aE8866
9th September 2007, 05:47 PM
Not For Show....so your running 10 inch rims on a 265s rear?? you dont have any issue's or what so ever(your car are AE86 rite?)......some people say even 225's on the rear(ae86) could have some issue's already unless you jacked up like a 4WD....im just wondering what/how you make 265s work on your rear??

and have you ever try semi's(225-265s)?? how you when on them??

Konakid
10th September 2007, 12:49 AM
But 265's are for show because 205 would be PLENTY of grip for even the most hard tuned N/A 4age....

chapl
10th September 2007, 10:37 AM
LOL

86xxx
10th September 2007, 05:17 PM
and i picked up 4 sec a lap at qr on sprint curcuit with a totally stock 4age and stock suspension+brakes[/b]

I love this, haha 4 seconds a lap, what'd you figure out you've got 4 more gears?! You cut the inner guards out hey?! How'd you mount a shock in the rear then? Please tell me you did have a shock in there, or are things like that "for show"?

Konakid
10th September 2007, 05:29 PM
This has gone on long enough. Ill end with this.

How many people do you see running 265's on Sprinters?

Konakid
10th September 2007, 10:57 PM
Updated for Chapl to clear things up.

14"

up to 9J = 185/60

over 9J = 195/50


15"

up to 9.5J = 195/50 or 195/45

over 9.5J = 205/50 or 205/45

I feel this better represents the more readily available tyres both new and second hand.

I'm sure many will agree with the sizes, if you don't, then let me know.

DavisJD
10th September 2007, 11:14 PM
I love this, haha 4 seconds a lap, what'd you figure out you've got 4 more gears?![/b]

4 seconds a lap on slicks over street tyres is more than doable.


I say go for the 265's, if they dont work so well, change them. Nothing wrong with trying things out.

Bustin_86
11th September 2007, 10:12 AM
Thread cleaned.

For moderator post, see medwins build thread. I cannot be fucked retyping it.

Basically shit like that = gay = formal reprimand

wooley
11th September 2007, 06:17 PM
Basically shit like that = gay = formal reprimand[/b]

shouldnt a mod. choose his words a little more carefully? :P

chapl
11th September 2007, 08:26 PM
.

chapl
11th September 2007, 08:33 PM
<{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=401625)
But 265's are for show because 205 would be PLENTY of grip for even the most hard tuned N/A 4age....[/b]
Must Have "hard tuned 4age "then as i found i was still smoking up 205 SLICKS coming out of slow corners.IMO putting wide rims with skinny tyres on your car is just for show , I can understand if your drifting because your not really chasing GRIP, and 205 would be ample because your average 4age would have troube keeping them spinning from start to finish of corner, thatsaid what is the advantage of putting a 10 inch rim on your car then stretching a 7 inch tyre in to it? why not just use a 7-8 inch rim with the appropriately sized tyre.I bought the widest tyre and wheel package for one reason MAXIMUM available GRIP
but each to their own i guess
V8 supercars on 205 tyres with 11 inch rims i'd like to see that.
[/b]

gives you more track, stops side wall flex in the tyre giving better rigidity in a way.

obviously you are talking bout grip
sorry but the first post was meant for people drifting.

fuck, thought you would have known that?

Konakid
11th September 2007, 09:52 PM
*Draws in breath*

Ok.

The idea of 'stretching tyres' for performance use is not just for show.

Stretching a tyre does a few things:

- It allows more negative offset rims to be run with minimal guard mods due to more clearance.
- The sidewall is pulled tight to give more response through both the throttle and steering wheel.
- It looks cool.

When the japs first stretched tyres they did not get a stock width rim and put on a 155 for stretch, they used wide rims with the same tyres they were previously running. This is how the stretching theory works.

The idea of stretching is not to put a skinny tyre on a rim, but put a standard (performance) size tyre on a wide rim


Proper stretching:

So you have 15x7's with 195/50's. You would not put on some shitty 185/55's to get 'more stretch', that is stretching just for show and will make the handling of the car actually worse as it will ultimately have less grip (given an identical tyre is used). Instead a 15x8 could be used with the same 195/50 tyres, thus creating the 'stretch' look while maintaining the same level of grip as with the 7' rim. This also has the added benefit of increasing track (given the offset) while keeping the tyres clear from the guards.

Wak Stretching:

Youve got some MA's say, a 14x7. Because you want to look 'heeeps stretched br0' to impress the kiddies, you put a 175/60 tyre on, and thus stretch the tyre a bit. This is just good for looks yes but not for actually driving the car hard. Instead a 185/60 should be used, as being wider it will actually have more grip (again, given identical tyre) equating to faster driving. It may not be quite as stretched but it will perform better. Refer to my tyre size post a few posts up.

This is really my opinion gathered from what i have seen of many japanese 86's and inspecting all the tyre/rim sizes from the trueno bible which contains hundreds of street/hills/skid 86's.

PuGZoR
8th February 2008, 01:13 PM
I'm trying to get consistancy in tyres I use. Currently I have 2 sets of mags:

15x7.5J [unknown offset, but fit damn well] Simmons 3-piece meshies
14x7J +8 Toyota MA61 Supra-Celica wheels (skids only, can't fit 14's on the front... brakes are too big...)
ANDDDDD, kinda considering forking out for a set of Konig B-Bombs when the money comes up, lol. Mmmm, 15x7.5J 0.

Was thinking of running either 195's or 205's on them. Just wanted to know; what profile and width tyres I should be using on them? I want to keep both sets of wheels/tyres the same circumference as stock wheels, or close, and I'd prefer to have the same kind of contact area on the road, ultimately meaning I'll get the same amount of friction/traction. General idea on this thread is 195's, but having said that, might be a bit big on the MA61's. Profiles are what I'm really needing help with though...

Help?

Konakid
10th February 2008, 11:17 PM
Hey mate, a 195/50/15 has almost the same rolling diameter as a 185/60/14. The difference is the 195/50 is 12mm smaller. A 205/50/15 makes the difference 9mm so either is fine, depends what will clear the guards i guess but the common trend is towards a 195/50 on 15's and 185/60's on 14's. They are both easily available new and second hand, makes it easier.

PuGZoR
11th February 2008, 04:25 PM
Might just get rid of the MA61's and get some sweet sweet B.Bomb action on. Then I'll have 15x7.5's all round and keep the rolling diameter exactly the same with 195/50 love. Yeah?

Konakid
11th February 2008, 04:59 PM
Sounds like a good idea to me although 8's and over are a better size, 7.5 isn't much difference, at least the offset is good. Given you've got a turbo motor, you'll want the extra grip of the 195's on the rear anyway for skids.

MountainRunner
27th March 2008, 11:53 AM
[attachment=24111:CIMG0457_800x600.JPG]


I have got new wheels and I'm kinda stuck with what tires 2 get :

the back pair are 14x7 -+ 0

middle pair are 14x7.5 -8

front pair are 14x8 -+0


what tires should i run if the 14x8 are on the front (needing more grip but decent fitment)

14x7.5 - 8 on rear for daily driving and somtimes sliding

14x7 0 for full time sliding


thanks for ur help :2thumbs:

federal
27th March 2008, 02:24 PM
14x8 - run a 195/60
14x7.5 - run a 195/60
14x7 - run a 185/60

biggo
27th March 2008, 04:03 PM
14x8 - run a 185/60
14x7.5 - run a 185/60
14x7 - run a 185/60

my theory bing that you get good tyres for the fronts (8's) and some shit or decent on the rears,

or just get the same tyres all round and some shit ones on the 'rainy day' pair

federal
27th March 2008, 04:24 PM
i wouldn't run a 185/60 on the front with a 14x8....the advantage of going to the wider 14x8 on the front is the ability to run a wider tyre, hence incresing the front grip...

i also recommend running 195's on the 7.5's using the same tire Front and Rear to obtain maximum grizznip...

MountainRunner
27th March 2008, 05:28 PM
i want heaps of grip out front rear to kick out in the wet but still have grip

federal
27th March 2008, 05:35 PM
then you will want to have 195/60 all round then

ae71neo
27th March 2008, 06:59 PM
185/60.

Waz
27th March 2008, 07:15 PM
185/60's on them all ethan.

meadan
28th March 2008, 12:11 AM
i find 185/60s still have plenty of grip when needed if you have a semi decent tire.

plus 195s look weird because of the high profile...

federal
28th March 2008, 03:21 AM
wow...posing seems to be getting more and more popular these days....

steroidchickens
28th March 2008, 06:31 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (federal @ Mar 28 2008, 03:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=509076)</div>
wow...posing seems to be getting more and more popular these days....[/b]

why spend thousands on rims if you don't want them to look good?

federal
28th March 2008, 12:49 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (steroidchickens @ Mar 28 2008, 06:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=509087)</div>
why spend thousands on rims if you don't want them to look good?[/b]

you missed the actual point there....

posing stretch or usable stretch.....

RobertoX
28th March 2008, 01:40 PM
^ says he who had 195/50 on 10s

biggo
28th March 2008, 01:51 PM
hahaha pwned

poser for sure.
SHICHI- theres plenty of decent tyres out there in 185/60, and quite a few good ones. plus its not posing if it jusssst fits your guards

Konakid
28th March 2008, 02:51 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (federal @ Mar 28 2008, 02:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=509076)</div>
wow...posing seems to be getting more and more popular these days....[/b]

No, a 195/60 too big for e7 guards and will leave minimal room for lowering, also giving scrubbing issues when running castor.

185/60 is perfect for almost any 14 unless its a 10J

MountainRunner
28th March 2008, 03:45 PM
thanks heaps guys ill get shit free ones and see how the fit
the 14x8 just clears the strut so i think a bit of stretch is needed

[attachment=24188:CIMG0463_800x600.JPG]

federal
28th March 2008, 08:15 PM
ok...yes i ran a 195/50/15 on a 10, due to lack of room and needing the car on the road....

195/60 Will fit in the guards of a ke, 185/60 will also cause problems when winding out the castor so your comment is mute....

a 14x8 0 offset with a 185/60 will also cause problems with lowering unless you plan on flaring your guards....which lets face it, you would want to anyway, so seeing as the guards should be flared then 195/60 is the perfect size for someone who wants "grip"....

but you wouldn't know that henry, seeing you've only ever had 7's in positive offset....

biggo
28th March 2008, 10:32 PM
since when was JHS ever so informative?

another piont - 185/60/14 - cheaper

federal
28th March 2008, 11:15 PM
JHS is always informative, however 90% of the time this is via PM

1aaron
13th April 2008, 03:24 PM
i run 205/50 on my 15x7s.
side walls are pretty much vertical.
benefit gives me alot more cornering grip for street driving. heaps of improvement