easiest AE86 Swap

[Nismo34]

What's goin on everyone.

Well i might be picking up a AE86 soon for super cheap. Well the stock 4AC engine has no compression and i was curious what is the easiest and cheapest swap for the AE86? I've been searching all day but can't find what i'm looking for. A lot of the links that i've found haven't been working. From what i've seen though it seems that the 4AGE swap is the easiest. Now i've been on working for cars for a while so i know what i'm doing, i've never dealt with toyotas..i've always been a honda person. Now questions i have if i swap a 4AGE in.

-Can i use the 4AC mounts?
-Will the transmission bolt up fine?
-Can i use the stock Rear End?
-Wiring..what has to be done?
-Can i run MegaSquirt instead of the stock ECU?
-ohh..and how expensive are parts for these cars? lol

thanks everyone! Later

-anthony

[gumbie]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (A.Short @ Mar 30 2008, 12:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=510075)</div>
What's goin on everyone.

Well i might be picking up a AE86 soon for super cheap. Well the stock 4AC engine has no compression and i was curious what is the easiest and cheapest swap for the AE86? I've been searching all day but can't find what i'm looking for. A lot of the links that i've found haven't been working. From what i've seen though it seems that the 4AGE swap is the easiest. Now i've been on working for cars for a while so i know what i'm doing, i've never dealt with toyotas..i've always been a honda person. Now questions i have if i swap a 4AGE in.

-Can i use the 4AC mounts?
-Will the transmission bolt up fine?
-Can i use the stock Rear End?
-Wiring..what has to be done?
-Can i run MegaSquirt instead of the stock ECU?
-ohh..and how expensive are parts for these cars? lol

thanks everyone! Later

-anthony[/b]

Hey mate welcome to the forums

the 4AGE 16v rwd is the easiest swap. The trans will bolt up fine although the clutch master will be very near the exhaust (probably use extractors and heat wrap them)

Yes you can use the 4AC mounts

You can use the stock rear end no problems

Don't see why you can't use a MegaSquirt ecu

Don't know about in the USof A but here in aus the mechanical parts are not too bad but panels are getting expensive

[Sparkle86]

Being that your in the US you should be able to find all the parts you need at a local wrecking yard from an AE86 GTS. You could probably find a really rusted out or crashed car and just transfer all the bits over.

I think the use of the MegaSquirt is covered pretty well on www.club4ag.com

[Nismo34]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (86 Nick @ Mar 29 2008, 10:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=510078)</div>
Hey mate welcome to the forums

the 4AGE 16v rwd is the easiest swap. The trans will bolt up fine although the clutch master will be very near the exhaust (probably use extractors and heat wrap them)

Yes you can use the 4AC mounts

You can use the stock rear end no problems

Don't see why you can't use a MegaSquirt ecu

Don't know about in the USof A but here in aus the mechanical parts are not too bad but panels are getting expensive[/b]


Thanks bro!

I am worried about how much body panels do cost. The car has some rust on it but the frame is in good shape. I have a friend who is very good at body work so i guess i'm not too worried. What are some tuning options when it comes to the 4AGE? I was looking to boost if the engine can handle it. I still have a lot of researching to do lol.

How much do 4AGE's usually cost? i'm on a time limit to get the car done once i get it.

[Nismo34]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sparkle86 @ Mar 29 2008, 10:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=510080)</div>
Being that your in the US you should be able to find all the parts you need at a local wrecking yard fron an AE86 GTS.[/b]


Ehhh..AE86's are pretty rare where i am in the states. The only one i've seen was an 85 that my dad owned about 15 years ago lol.

[Sparkle86]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (A.Short @ Mar 30 2008, 01:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=510083)</div>
Ehhh..AE86's are pretty rare where i am in the states. The only one i've seen was an 85 that my dad owned about 15 years ago lol.[/b]

Yeah but at least you guys actually got the twincam ones over there so you should be able to get parts easier than we can in Oz.

[Nismo34]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sparkle86 @ Mar 29 2008, 10:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=510092)</div>
Yeah but at least you guys actually got the twincam ones over there so you should be able to get parts easier than we can in Oz.[/b]


hmm are the states the only place that got the twincam?


does anyone know what cars the 4AGE come in? newer corollas? can i use a FWD engine?

[Javal]

you can use a fwd engine, yes.

however the EASIEST swap is using a complete RWD one, with the wiring and everything.

Just jump on the phone and ring some toyota wreckers in your area?

[Nismo34]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Javal @ Mar 29 2008, 11:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=510098)</div>
you can use a fwd engine, yes.

however the EASIEST swap is using a complete RWD one, with the wiring and everything.

Just jump on the phone and ring some toyota wreckers in your area?[/b]


okay thanks!

i'll probably just end up doing that. I don't have the car yet, i'm going to look at it on monday..but i'll probably end up getting it. I just wanted to see what i'm getting myself in to lol.

does anyone know of any websites that sell aftermarket parts for these cars?

Also i see that the 20v has ITB's, can you swap them on to a 16v twin cam?

sorry for all the questions, but thank you everyone for replying!

[samuel]

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/faq

Try reading that first...

Then ask more questions :)

[Nismo34]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nick @ Mar 29 2008, 11:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=510104)</div>
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/faq

Try reading that first...

Then ask more questions :)[/b]

will do..thanks :)

[Javal]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (A.Short @ Mar 30 2008, 01:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=510101)</div>
okay thanks!

i'll probably just end up doing that. I don't have the car yet, i'm going to look at it on monday..but i'll probably end up getting it. I just wanted to see what i'm getting myself in to lol.

does anyone know of any websites that sell aftermarket parts for these cars?

Also i see that the 20v has ITB's, can you swap them on to a 16v twin cam?

sorry for all the questions, but thank you everyone for replying![/b]

Yes you can put the 20V ITB's on the 16v's, Technotoytuning does an adaptor plate to suit.

[rthy]

I don't know how many 4age powered corollas you guys got over there but the cheast upgrade here is buying a banged up/damaged corolla ans swapping everything over.

[Nismo34]

thanks for all of your input everyone! I'm checking out the AE86 tomorrow..we'll see how everything goes

If i end up purchasing it i'll be calling some local yards and seeing what they have.