wheel alignment setups

[ae86]

old webpage had one where everyone listed what they get their wheels aligned to and what their planning on using the car for street/drift/track race
and for wot car e7/86/etc, can we get these details again

[stouty]

T-18 used for hillclimbs

+1 toe out
-2.5 camber
+2.5 caster

[ae71neo]

Track drift

-3 Camber
1mm Toe out
Max castor stock arms.

[Robo86]

track sliding.

0 toe
+6ish castor
-3.5 camber

[marvis]

Streetin' RA65

+5mm toe (each side, not total :P)
+5ish castor (stock rods)
-3.5 camber

[sun_moon]

Aw11 mr2 for street fun each day

1mm overall toe out
-2 font camber
-2 rear camber
+3.5 caster

[crackett]

In regards to toe out, I leart from the people that actually build the wheel alignment machines, think they are called Beisbeth (spelling?) that with a lowered car with camber you should be setting the toe to about +2 out on both the front wheels. So 4+ total out on the front.

[marvis]

I run heaps as I slide everywhere and don't really daily drive. It's soooo good.

marvis.

[Robo86]

bump. new alignment.

-3.5~camber
+2mm total toe out
+6 castor

feels good! :)

[ae86]

pretty sure mines all standard besides -2.5 camber, cant get anymore than that ? im running jdm coilovers, cusco camber tops, ajps rca's n everything else is std

[Konakid]

bump. new alignment.

-3.5~camber
+2mm total toe out
+6 castor

feels good! :)

Toe out ftw.


~1mm overall toe out
-2.5 camber
+3.5-4 caster

[trikzlane]

im a wheel aligner so on my car so i run;
Toe; +0.5 on each side = 1mm
Camber; -2.0 thanks to xt130 LCA's
Castor; +2.7 on the left and +2.6 on the right, as the left should always be higher

[shawn_26]

Ok, apologise in advance for long post.

Im new to this wheel alignment bizzo. Im going in for a wheel alignment next week to get the car ready for drift prac. Will have new RCA's and rack ends, as well as rack bushes. Can someone reccomend me some alignment specs? I have no idea what I should request.

Basically my car has coilover front with Camber tops, TRD rears with 6kg springs, Selbys rear swaybar, and is sacked on its arse. Will have AJPS panhard rod in next week. All control arms are standard.

What can I, and what cant I get adjusted? Can the rear end be adjusted? Or just the front? I guess I want it set up pretty slippery to begin with, as It will pretty much be my first time sliding the Hachi on track. What specs would you guys reccomend to get it sliding well?

And call me a douche, but every time Ive gone for a wheel alignment in my other cars, Ive dropped it off and said: "gimme a wheel alignment". I had no idea I could request my own specs lol. Do I just hand the bloke a peice of paper and say: "align to these specs".

Sorry for the epic post.

[bigm]

Typical Wheel alignment for drift seems to be


-3 Degree Camber
Stock Castor Rods Maxxed out
0mm Toe or 1mm total out (.5 Each side)

You wont be able to change how slipperly your car is because of the basic rear end set up, it depends on your diff angle and this is changed by adjustable rear arms which you didnt list as having, and not worth it if you are learning.

So set it something like that and see how you go. should do the trick.

[Konakid]

As above, the front end setup with determine how darty and chuckable the car is.

set around -2.5 camber
0 toe
and +3.5 castor.

Just hand the dude a card with it written on haha thats what i do.

"ohh you want it set up for some hairy driving"

Had that before.

[Kid Karola]

Touge-Track: front & rear coilovers, 30mm RCA, traction brackets, rose-jointed rear links and front end.

-2.25 Camber
+4 Castor
2mm Toe-out

[Kid Karola]

Also was just watching HotVersion AE86Club as you do on a lazy sunday afternoon,

Keiichi Tsuchiya's HotVersion TRD Trueno

-2.31 Camber
+4.05 Castor
0mm Toe

(About 3:30min into Vol 8.)

[ke_70]

going for a wheel alighnment soon how much adjustment does the stock ke70 castor arms hav? does it change with stock and rona lcas
cheers


im a wheel aligner so on my car so i run;
Toe; +0.5 on each side = 1mm
Camber; -2.0 thanks to xt130 LCA's
Castor; +2.7 on the left and +2.6 on the right, as the left should always be higher

and is that coz of the slope in the road?

[Konakid]

stock rods have about 3.5 degrees in them.

[crackett]

Yeah, because of the road camber more castor is on the left to stop the car pulling. Max out your rods, it's amazing how different a Corolla feels with it done!

[Joshie_Mcslide]

st141 corona,Daily driven/drifted

2mm toe out,(total)
-1.5 camber
+3.5 caster

Badly offset diff,lol,need a panhard!

[Clinton]

planning on running

neg-2.5 camber
zero toe
plus +3.0 castor

[.ady]

im planning to run

-2.5 camber
0 toe
max castor (stock rods)

[DRFTR86]

-3.5 camber
+ 5 degrees castor
2mm total toe out

running t3 coilovers with t3 cambertops, t3 castor rods

[blair]

whats the point in telling people what your going to run,
therefore you have no feedback/input into how it works for you?

i run
-2.5 camber
maxed stock castor rods
1mm toe out each side

love how chuckable it is, and how much steering input actually affects the car mid-slide (castor).
was running about 4mm each side toe out just for fun, to test the extremes i suppose, and was much more stable at high speed straight line, but less stable high speed slide! (~100kph)

[Robo86]

Atm mine is,

-3.2 camner
+5 castor (might back it off, i wanna use my hands more)
1mm total toe out.

feels great, but also doesnt kill fronts too quick which is awesome.

[keiichi]

i might be wrong here but...

just so yall know...

-toe = toe out and +toe = toe in

[keiichi]

im a wheel aligner so on my car so i run;
Toe; +0.5 on each side = 1mm
Camber; -2.0 thanks to xt130 LCA's
Castor; +2.7 on the left and +2.6 on the right, as the left should always be higher

are you increasing castor on the left due to radial increase on the right when you sit in the car?

[jay70]

-3.2 camber
+2.3 castor
0 toe

feels good

[marvis]

are you increasing castor on the left due to radial increase on the right when you sit in the car?
I thought it was for when you fall asleep so you run off the road, not into oncoming traffic.

[Marco]

lol^ *When not IF* haha

[keiichi]

I thought it was for when you fall asleep so you run off the road, not into oncoming traffic.

LOL no doubt!

like how rear sway bars are pencil thin so when you misjudge the roundabout on the way to pick up the kids from school you just understeer into the gutter instead of sliding into oncoming traffic.

[foxmalisha]

Drift specs vary from car and driver . If your in se/brisbane pm me no bulls*it proper alignment . Not your store bought ones . Any car .

[marvis]

Bump!

[Jacobxxx]

Ke70

-2 Camber
1.5mm toe out each side
max caster (+3 or 3.5, can't remember)

Daily driven.

[trikzlane]

need to getz the rear camber to neg 1 million for the fully heckers dwfta status

[marvis]

I run -5.5 haha.

So,
4mm toe total out
+6ish castor (stock rods)
-3.5 camber

Rear:
2mm toe total out
-5.5 camber

On a xa6x

[Robo86]

still dig this setup.
-3.5 camber
2mm total toe out (1mm each side)
+6 castor, need to back it off cause its rubbing.

[blair]

I run -5.5 haha.

So,
4mm toe total out
+6ish castor (stock rods)
-3.5 camber

Rear:
2mm toe total out
-5.5 camber

On a xa6x

-5.5 is probs the main reason the little 4a gets them spinning... must be a bit slow/sketch though??

an yeh I run -3.5 up front now - tried a little more but shit got super crap mid corner! need to fix ackerman i think.

[marvis]

Nah it's fine, most of that setup was with my old one too.. Can still get plenty of speed etc.

You will see on touge one day :P

[blair]

I'd rather see @ QR...

[McLEVIN]

Is this stating wheel align specs?
Can someone translate?19859

[AJPS]

at a guess

-.5mm toe out

-2 camber

+3.9 caster

[Deeken]

Hey guys, reading up, and was wondering about alignment specs as my xe7x is understeering a bit even with my suspension work (8kg fronts + trd yellows, 6kg rear + tokicos, front upper strut brace).. and in the wet, the ass seems to be really grippy even with shit 175/60/13's (i think) on the back and 185/55/14 on the front on my ma61's..

Thinking I might get an alignment seeing as I havent got one since I put the 86 coilovers in and get it set to -2 camber, +2mm toe total, and max the castor.. seems to be the median of what most people are running lol

Sorry about the long post, but with having such stiff suspension, is the understeer expected or could it just be the lack of alignment?

[lolwat]

could be several things, but for all you know your running +2 degree's of cmaber 1 side and -1 degree of camber the other, and so on and so forth, so get a allingment and go from there
(and jsut because your tops are adjust the same either side doesnt mean the wheel/tyre either side is)

[Jacobxxx]

Hey guys, reading up, and was wondering about alignment specs as my xe7x is understeering a bit even with my suspension work (8kg fronts + trd yellows, 6kg rear + tokicos, front upper strut brace).. and in the wet, the ass seems to be really grippy even with shit 175/60/13's (i think) on the back and 185/55/14 on the front on my ma61's..

Thinking I might get an alignment seeing as I havent got one since I put the 86 coilovers in and get it set to -2 camber, +2mm toe total, and max the castor.. seems to be the median of what most people are running lol

Sorry about the long post, but with having such stiff suspension, is the understeer expected or could it just be the lack of alignment?

Do you have a locker? that's why you understeer in the wet.

also if you changed your suspension get a wheel allignment then see how it is.

[Deeken]

nope, no locker lol. want one so bad.

[ae86-13b]

what specs are people running if they use s13 front end??? or they same as running toyota front end

[stahlz_ae86]

nope, no locker lol. want one so bad.

Will only amplify your current understeer problem.

[Deeken]

Back to topic lol:

I got my alignment done, -1.5 camber, 2mm toe out total, and only got my castor evened up (to something like 2.5 each side).. feels really good compared to before the alignment.. not too much difference, but lil extra grip and noticed when i got it first roundabout i went through the steering was lighter (I had something like 3.5mm toe out each side before alignment LOL)

[Konakid]

Any time you change any suspension compenent in the front you need an alingment as you put it out when you take bits in and out! You could drop the toe down to 1mm out total to save the tyres a bit if you are driving it daily and run more castor to compensate. With new bushes and factory castor rods you can get about 3.5 which is good because more positive castor give you camber as you turn in so you dont have to run as much static -ve camber. If you tell the aligner to max the postive castor they wil do it for you. Alignment is the best, makes everything feel more predictiable!

[Deeken]

Cheers kona, that was one of the reasons I got the castor only evened up, they were like did you want the castor on max +ve or -ve, or just even it up, I was like errrr (COULDN'T REMEMBER LOL) just even it up, it'll do. rofl.