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Matt
12th January 2013, 08:18 AM
Many car ethuisasts believe the TOMS N086v is exactly how Toyota should have released the GT86.

The FA20 Subaru Boxer engine removed, and replaced with a 3.6L 6 cyclinder engine found currently in the Lexus IS / GS models.

A few tweaks have been done to see the engine output of 400hp, which is double of what the FA20 produces.

The exterior of the car is also changed with a pointy front bumper and carbo fibre guards.

The engine Bay

http://www.autoguide.com/gallery/d/671366-2/toms-n086v-concept-11.JPG

http://www.autoguide.com/gallery/d/671285-3/toms-n086v-concept-1.JPG

http://www.autoguide.com/gallery/d/671310-3/toms-n086v-concept-4.JPG

http://www.autoguide.com/gallery/d/671358-2/toms-n086v-concept-10.JPG

http://www.autoguide.com/gallery/d/671350-2/toms-n086v-concept-9.JPG

Seeing this engine sitting in the bay, begs the question what was Toyota thinking when they used the FA20 engine?

Sure the 6 cylinder may add a few $$$ to the manufacturing costs, but given the amount people are spending to turbocharge or supercharge the FA20 engines I'm sure people would be more than happy to pay it.

At the very least this drive line should be offered available as an optional upgrade.

Thanks to www.autoguide.com (http://www.autoguide.com) for the pictures.

AJPS
12th January 2013, 12:52 PM
would be so much better

lolwat
12th January 2013, 01:43 PM
yes but was the 86 with a 4age a power house? they where aiming for a new aged version?? like thats what i have always thought, i may be completely wrong


is pretty mad but :)

gg004
12th January 2013, 04:20 PM
cool

Vance
12th January 2013, 05:22 PM
i like to put a ISF driveline in mine in the future, but that would be 20 years down the track.....


i am quite happy with my 86 and how it came from factory. i honestly feel they got it all right. awesome base to modify. it was never meant to be a power house.

the factory balance is amazing.

if i wanted high power and good balance i would have bought another rx7. i prefer fuel economy and daily-ability over high power.

and the car is that fun to drive at any speed you dont care that its "slow", just like the ae86. you can drive it fast if you put some effort in, just like the ae86.

Matt
12th January 2013, 05:30 PM
I rate this inline with the 4ac vs 4age. C'mon toyota let us have the isf engine as an optional upgrade for approx 5k

AJPS
12th January 2013, 06:58 PM
I rate this inline with the 4ac vs 4age. C'mon toyota let us have the isf engine as an optional upgrade for approx 5k

would be 15-20k more likely (but still a dream)

pizzaeater
15th January 2013, 03:43 PM
How it should have been! Toyota are still getting it wrong

Saikou
16th January 2013, 09:54 PM
Noice, is that similar to Orido's 86? IS-F V8 wasn't it?

though regardless what toyota did or didn't do in the engine bay, I'm glad I've got my 86 lol

Matt
17th January 2013, 10:48 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=rmW1xOVxzhg

Really cool time lapse video of this car being built.. Allot of workers involved in this build...

Saikou
17th January 2013, 06:49 PM
man i want the tail lights, reminds me of the brz sti concept.
I want to hear this in action =D

FoldKing86
24th January 2013, 02:52 PM
How it should have been! Toyota are still getting it wrong


Oh really, then how should of they handle the build of this car?

For what they intended to achieve Toyota and Subaru hit the nail on the head so to speak. Well atleast 98% right.

Low COG, Low fuel usage (considering the tight laws these days), low weight and low price. I doubt it could of been built any other way.

For the money you wont find a better starting platform.

Each to their own i guess.

I personally see the ZN6 in time will be bigger and better then the AE86 & S13's ever were.

AJPS
24th January 2013, 05:57 PM
Oh really, then how should of they handle the build of this car?

For what they intended to achieve Toyota and Subaru hit the nail on the head so to speak. Well atleast 98% right.

Low COG, Low fuel usage (considering the tight laws these days), low weight and low price. I doubt it could of been built any other way.

For the money you wont find a better starting platform.

Each to their own i guess.

I personally see the ZN6 in time will be bigger and better then the AE86 & S13's ever were.

i hate the fa20 engine, BUT if it had this Toms engine the car would be over $50,000 making it a dream for most

as it is, it is accessible and will be around for years!

mattblack
24th January 2013, 08:40 PM
i hate the fa20 engine, BUT if it had this Toms engine the car would be over $50,000 making it a dream for most

as it is, it is accessible and will be around for years!
not only would it make it to expensive, the warranty claims would be huge, imagine all the punters leaving the dealerships in a cloud of tyre smoke with 400hp under the right foot!

ae8zn6
24th January 2013, 09:11 PM
Dunno, I quite like the FA20... I would prefer an inline four (for maintenance and durability concerns) but I find the power delivery not completely different to my memories of my silvertop 20V...

I don't know if I have ever driven a car and thought "Man, I wish this car had LESS power", so no matter how much power the 86 came with people would always complain that they wanted more.

Now that I have had a chance to drive my ZN6 around a bit I don't know that I really want to change much (although I would like it to sound more like the project gryphon car when I am on the taps)

Matt
25th January 2013, 02:48 PM
not only would it make it to expensive, the warranty claims would be huge, imagine all the punters leaving the dealerships in a cloud of tyre smoke with 400hp under the right foot!

It isn't overly difficult to spot someone who has been abusing the car... I quick inspection of the flywheel / pressure plate will tell you this.

Holden / Ford with their SS commodores xr6 turbo's etc. haven't had too many issues.