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Jim621
24th March 2014, 11:58 AM
Hi All,

So my predicament is:
I bought an unlicenced AE86 last year with a 4agze engine.
The car had been licenced previously with the 4AGZE (about 10 years ago), but as far as i can tell doesnt have a mod plate for the new engine.
I have a copy of the inspection/licence papers from when it was originally licenced with the 4agze.

So my question is; Will i need to get the car 'engineered' (or more correctly re-engineered) to get a mod plate before i take it over the pits to get it licenced? Or does the fact that it had been previously licenced mean i dont need a mod plate?


cheers, Steve.

McLEVIN
24th March 2014, 02:04 PM
Im not sure of your rules ect. But why do you have to take it over the pits if its been registered. Can't you just go into the the rego office and get it re registered. .if not they'll tell you what needs to be done

Jim621
24th March 2014, 03:14 PM
In WA, if the car has been unregistered for more than 3 months it needs to go over the pits.

ae8zn6
24th March 2014, 07:39 PM
I would say make the car as respectable and legitimate as possible, have the paperwork with the engine number of your GZE on it, be polite and just give it a go at the pits.

Worst they can say is, you need it to have a mod plate, there is a list of approved engineers on the website or something similar.

It could be the loss of the money for the pits, but you could save the cost of engineering ;)

I was thinking that when I get my sr car finished I might just roll it over the pits and see what is said.

Jim621
27th March 2014, 10:47 AM
The answer i got from the DoT when i called them was WA dont have mod plates, so it shouldnt be an issue getting the car licenced......


Ill give it a go just taking the car across the pits as it is.
The car isnt hugely modified, and presents quite well since i have given it some TLC (degreasing, painting and refurbing the running gear).

ae8zn6
28th March 2014, 02:01 AM
Sounds good, as I said, mine is relatively heavily modified (in that it has another manufacturer's engine in it etc) but should present reasonably well, so I was planning on just giving it a go and rolling over. I mean given I am only intending to have it as a track car the worst they can do is tell me it doesn't comply... no love lost that way

Jim621
17th May 2014, 10:18 AM
So just an update for anyone that is interested.
Took the car to an inspector on monday (guy in Ellenbrook my brother had used before), and the car passed the inspection (*eventually) after a few minor changes.

The inspector was happy with the original engineering paperwork for the engine swap which was good.
As you said Robbo, the car presented well (new brakes, cleaned and painted suspension, polished paint, clean windows etc), which i think helped.

The two things i had to change were: where the brake lines passed through the strut i held them on with cable ties - the inspector didnt approve so sent me to a brake place up the road to get clips fitted - $20 and 10 mins later that was resolved.
And the other issue was i didnt have a mod permit for the pod filter. I would have thought since the pod filter was mentioned on the engine change paperwork i wouldnt need a separate approval for that. Anyway, the inspector sent me into the licencing department office in Midland to buy a mod permit....$19.50 later i had a receipt, drove back to the inspector and then he passed my car.
Whats the purpose of the mod permit?????....other than just a greedy money hungry goverment thing!!

Anywho, after all that (about 4 hours) I then had to drive back to the licencing deparment to get the car registered. Unfortunately they wouldnt licence the car because the receipt i got previous owner of the car wasnt that crash hot, and he was an overseas exchange student and had returned home so couldnt be contacted. So i had to complete a Stat Dec, and that will take 21 days to get reviewed to check the car hasnt been stolen etc.
So hopefully in another two weeks or so i will have an approved licenced 86!

ae8zn6
18th May 2014, 02:39 AM
Sounds good mate!

I miss driving mine on the street, but it would take a brave inspector to approve it :S

Do you get to drive it while the stat dec is reviewed? I am assuming not

Jim621
18th May 2014, 10:00 AM
Negative on driving it while waiting for the stat dec....not the end of the world though as it gives me time to install some new steering bushes and RCA's i bought.

Beserker99
18th May 2014, 03:46 PM
Unfortunately they wouldnt licence the car because the receipt i got previous owner of the car wasnt that crash hot, and he was an overseas exchange student and had returned home so couldnt be contacted. So i had to complete a Stat Dec, and that will take 21 days to get reviewed to check the car hasnt been stolen etc.

I nearly had the same problem as you back when I went to license my T18 back when, my receipt wasn't the best either when I bought my car. But I did manage to get my plates after the licensing officer had like a 5min whinge about it. I guess it may have paid off being the first person in the licensing centre at the time, it was proably too early for him to care.

Good luck getting the car on the road!

Jim621
18th May 2014, 05:47 PM
I nearly had the same problem as you back when I went to license my T18 back when, my receipt wasn't the best either when I bought my car. But I did manage to get my plates after the licensing officer had like a 5min whinge about it. I guess it may have paid off being the first person in the licensing centre at the time, it was proably too early for him to care.

Good luck getting the car on the road!


Thanks buddy. Yeah the guy was stumped for a bit on what to do. First he said i need to get a better receipt, and i explained i couldnt and could i just fill out a stat dec instead.....he said i couldnt do a stat dec for this. Anyway, after about 5 mins of me requesting what i needed to do he went to see his supervisor...and sure enough he came back with the stat dec paperwork.
ill call up at the end of next week to see how the paperwork is progressing.