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    Official figures are sitting at 2 million iPads sold in the US in under 60 days
    http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20006383-37.html

    Haha... all the naysayers and anti-apple bandwagoners that go on about how bad the ipad is are the ones that lose really, as apple gains massive traction in the personal computer market, and netbook sales decline dramatically..

    eg:
    http://www.geek.com/articles/apple/s...y-30-20100526/

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    lets go that is data from one website,


    http://ipadnewshub.com/2010/05/ipad-...netbook-sales/
    http://www.pcworld.com/article/19589...continues.html
    http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/23448...-amd-execs.htm

    do proper research, not what you want to read.

    I'v used it. It's not a laptop replacement a such - It was never designed to be. So all the guys going on about how it doesn't have this and doesn't have that are the kind of people should probably stop and leave the thread.
    Then why are you comparing sales to netbooks?
    What is it designed to be?
    It's a luxury item - you don't need one in the same way that you don't need to collect sneakers or put bigger turbo's on cars etc. You buy it because either you can see how it may make your life easier or you buy it because you think it's cool. Face it - 90% of electronics are like that. To be honest, if you had a desktop computer and wanted a portable computer for media consumption only (desktop can handle media creation) and don't like any of the netbooks (as I and many others don't) the ipad is a great choice. Similarly people who don't know how to use comptuters well and just want to pick up a slim and small device and use the internet, send emails and do social networking shit.

    It seems to be really really nice for media consumption - being all the social media networks and sites, looking at/displaying and storing photos, music playing, video playing (probably especially in regards to travel - because it's very thin, very light, has a 11.5+ battery life which has been independently tested, and has a very very nice screen - much better than most netbooks)
    Media consumption, like online video, which is all flash based and cant be viewed.
    Storying photos, without a firewire or usb plug, using a usb cord to transfer is tedious at best, not to mention 64gig isnt going to do a great deal. I have had my camera for under a year and have over that.
    Music playing? not really the greatest thing, im not going to carry around something 10 inches in size to play music. Not to mention you cant even use it to play music while you are doing something else on it.
    Watching videos? everything has to be synced from itunes, and the video must be purchased from apple, you cant merely convert using handbrake and sync on, all the video you will be watching WILL be purchased. Which for me would throw over 1tb of move and tv down the toilet.
    The very nice screen you refer to is not even 16:9 resolution (it is 4:3) which will either cut down what your watching, or shrink it down and lose quality.
    You say the quality of the screen is better than most netbooks, most netbooks cost half as much as an iPad, the netbooks that cost the same have 16:9 and 1080p, neither of which the iPad has.

    All the standard iphone OS apps have been very much re-worked - calender/photo/ipod all revamped and very very well designed. Didn't get to play with safari because the stores wifi wasn't connected and they sold their allocation of 3g models in the first hour of release. Pages (word), keynote (powerpoint) and numbers (excel) are all really great for media consumption - for instance receiving docs in email and looking through them, or using as a portable powerpoint display etc etc. I was particularly impressed by keynote - seems to be very very well designed. Can't print from pages unfortunately BUT there are already 3rd party printing apps via wifi/bluetooth. Besides that - Jobs himself has said that wireless printing will come soon natively for ipad: http://mashable.com/2010/05/10/steve...-it-will-come/. All the iphone wireless print apps work on the ipad too: http://www.cartridgesave.co.uk/news/...-applications/
    Why would you want to be able to read through documents and emails and sit there and view power points without being able to readily make changes.
    When I do uni assignments, I type at over 80wpm, frequently run excel word, one note, power point and adobe pdf reader all side by side. The ipad would have to close each program
    and open up another just to quickly check something on the criteria sheet or the likes. Not to mention cant play music in the background while doing so, and even if it could I have over 30gig of music on my netbook. Leaves 30gig free for other jive which is sweet dick all.
    The book application is really good - books are really natural looking and everything is very adjustable.
    review here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2X5Ce...eature=related
    You can buy a dickload of books for 900 dollars. The kindle is available for under 200, so you can buy a kindle and a decent netbook for under half the price of a ipad.
    Oh and you can also go buy an ipod touch and still have change.
    Device itself is really well made - real aluminum, typical apple solidity and super tight build.
    The onscreen keyboard is loads easier to use than phone touchscreen keyboards - and I'd say personally it's slightly easier to use than the netbook keyboards which are scaled down and squished. Though in saying that, it's still no where near as good as a real keyboard. I'd call it a decent compromise - note that you can buy an apple keyboard for the ipad as well.
    bullshit statement of the year, you used it for 5 mins in a shop while it was laying flat down on a table and you were standing looking down over the top of it, if you were sitting on a chair it would scoot all over your lap and shit, if you held it you would only have one hand. If you sat down at a table and put it down it would hurt your hands and feel stupid. I can type over 80wpm on my netbook. You keep saying its not a replacement for laptops yet you keep making direct comparisons. The purchaseable keyboard costs 90 dollars, and completely ruins any advantage a iPad MIGHT have over a netbook in portability. Which is zero, as it takes up the same amount of room in a bag as a netbook.
    You call it a decent compromise, to what? a phone? why should a tablet keyboard be compared to a phone keyboard? if its inferior to what your comparing it to, a note book, then its inferior.
    My netbook cost 300 dollars, and it has a great keyboard. The top of the line netbooks that are cheaper than the ipad have even better keyboards. Not to mention the other features that leave them for dead.
    this here is 440 dollars
    http://www.umart.com.au/newindex2.phtml?bid=6
    It is the same size, weighs LESS, is slightly thicker and will outdo the iPad in every respect, my nb has gone over the 10 hour battery point many times, I wouldn't be surprised if it did 11 hours. Thats multitasking with music playing and the screen relatively bright.
    Did i mention its half the price?


    As for cool uses - my interpretation is that the device starts off as a basic platform. It's pretty expandable - eg:

    AirDisplay - allows ipad to be used as secondary monitor.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rafJ...eature=related

    Sketchbook Pro - epic drawing/painting program. Utilized layers like photoshop. Companies are making drawing stylus's for the program as well - looks like they work really well.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZ44S17mHO4
    with stylus: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szqEt-2o5VY
    better finger drawing demo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilxp_0kSZGc

    Remote desktop capability -
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x58K4fA9wXI

    Box - Is like having an osx finder or windows explorer directory for the ipad - something which some people bitch about with the iphone OS, unbeknown to them that you can actually have one. It's free too.
    http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/box-net/id290853822?mt=8
    All things that netbooks come with standard, so much so they wouldn't even bother to list them as abilities in a spec sheet.

    How is a netbook a pain to do any form of internet stuff?
    the iPad doesnt have flash, so every one of the social net working sites will have to be an app that will need to be opened and closed to operate in.
    My netbook I can open up firefox and go bang bang bang and have 5 tabs open with each site I want to visit and be done with each within 10 seconds.
    The ipad will take ALOT longer.

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    heres some more info to show you how good they are at
    "media consumption"
    which is another name for
    "lack of ability"
    http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=e...=&oq=&gs_rfai=
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    I know it's not meant to be like a newbook but shit no USB? is that true? if so what kind of dumb shit is that. Sub $100 mobiles even have them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam-Q View Post
    I know it's not meant to be like a newbook but shit no USB? is that true? if so what kind of dumb shit is that. Sub $100 mobiles even have them.
    They will release a version with USB next year, it will be 'new and improved', cost just as much as the current one and retards will still buy it.
    They have been doing the same thing with the iPhone for years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey H View Post
    They will release a version with USB next year, it will be 'new and improved', cost just as much as the current one and retards will still buy it.
    They have been doing the same thing with the iPhone for years.
    I'm really not keen to continue petty fights but you do realise that the iphone has had 2 Versions in Aus in a period of like 3 years right? The second version only had faster hardware. And through the models they offered firmware updates to upgrade the older model phones to the same software specs as the newer phones. My 4 year old iphone 2g got a software upgrade with added features when the 3g came out, and then I got the copy and paste, voice recorder etc etc added features when the 3gs came out too.

    Everytime other manufacturers bring out a new phone they don't send out firmware upgrades to the old models to bring features up the new one...

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    Quote Originally Posted by driftke70 View Post
    lets go that is data from one website,


    http://ipadnewshub.com/2010/05/ipad-...netbook-sales/
    http://www.pcworld.com/article/19589...continues.html
    http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/23448...-amd-execs.htm

    do proper research, not what you want to read.


    Then why are you comparing sales to netbooks?
    What is it designed to be?

    Media consumption, like online video, which is all flash based and cant be viewed.
    Storying photos, without a firewire or usb plug, using a usb cord to transfer is tedious at best, not to mention 64gig isnt going to do a great deal. I have had my camera for under a year and have over that.
    Music playing? not really the greatest thing, im not going to carry around something 10 inches in size to play music. Not to mention you cant even use it to play music while you are doing something else on it.
    Watching videos? everything has to be synced from itunes, and the video must be purchased from apple, you cant merely convert using handbrake and sync on, all the video you will be watching WILL be purchased. Which for me would throw over 1tb of move and tv down the toilet.
    The very nice screen you refer to is not even 16:9 resolution (it is 4:3) which will either cut down what your watching, or shrink it down and lose quality.
    You say the quality of the screen is better than most netbooks, most netbooks cost half as much as an iPad, the netbooks that cost the same have 16:9 and 1080p, neither of which the iPad has.


    Why would you want to be able to read through documents and emails and sit there and view power points without being able to readily make changes.
    When I do uni assignments, I type at over 80wpm, frequently run excel word, one note, power point and adobe pdf reader all side by side. The ipad would have to close each program
    and open up another just to quickly check something on the criteria sheet or the likes. Not to mention cant play music in the background while doing so, and even if it could I have over 30gig of music on my netbook. Leaves 30gig free for other jive which is sweet dick all.

    You can buy a dickload of books for 900 dollars. The kindle is available for under 200, so you can buy a kindle and a decent netbook for under half the price of a ipad.
    Oh and you can also go buy an ipod touch and still have change.

    bullshit statement of the year, you used it for 5 mins in a shop while it was laying flat down on a table and you were standing looking down over the top of it, if you were sitting on a chair it would scoot all over your lap and shit, if you held it you would only have one hand. If you sat down at a table and put it down it would hurt your hands and feel stupid. I can type over 80wpm on my netbook. You keep saying its not a replacement for laptops yet you keep making direct comparisons. The purchaseable keyboard costs 90 dollars, and completely ruins any advantage a iPad MIGHT have over a netbook in portability. Which is zero, as it takes up the same amount of room in a bag as a netbook.
    You call it a decent compromise, to what? a phone? why should a tablet keyboard be compared to a phone keyboard? if its inferior to what your comparing it to, a note book, then its inferior.
    My netbook cost 300 dollars, and it has a great keyboard. The top of the line netbooks that are cheaper than the ipad have even better keyboards. Not to mention the other features that leave them for dead.
    this here is 440 dollars
    http://www.umart.com.au/newindex2.phtml?bid=6
    It is the same size, weighs LESS, is slightly thicker and will outdo the iPad in every respect, my nb has gone over the 10 hour battery point many times, I wouldn't be surprised if it did 11 hours. Thats multitasking with music playing and the screen relatively bright.
    Did i mention its half the price?



    All things that netbooks come with standard, so much so they wouldn't even bother to list them as abilities in a spec sheet.

    How is a netbook a pain to do any form of internet stuff?
    the iPad doesnt have flash, so every one of the social net working sites will have to be an app that will need to be opened and closed to operate in.
    My netbook I can open up firefox and go bang bang bang and have 5 tabs open with each site I want to visit and be done with each within 10 seconds.
    The ipad will take ALOT longer.

    I know where my money would (and has) go, and the people im going to continue laughing at.
    I couldn't care less what you say really about the device really, I've used it and I know what I think about it. if you don't like it, don't buy it - just the same as any other tech out there. It's quite weird how obsessively anti-apple you are.

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    thats because their phones wouldnt have missed such obvious features in the first place.

    im not anti apple, im against stupid marketing and people buying into what they dont know.
    I wouldnt use it cause I dont give a crap, when I go into harvey norman or something I dont test every single lap top they have in there,
    i dont go play the ps3 and the wii display, walk over to the desktops and test every monitor. And I care about those things more than I
    do about the iPad.

    To you it might be the next big thing, to me its a blown up ipod touch with crappy UI.

    Like I said in my other post,
    when this was released
    http://www.tabletpc2.com/Review-HPTC1100.htm
    was there people going nuts and hyping it up, was jimny fallon talking about it for 45 minutes on his show,

    did they publish inter company letters on their website?

    its all just childish bull crap.

    research how many people are selling them second hand.

    in regards to your google search, again bending statistics,
    your post would be the same as me saying mac overheating problems, but i didnt, i said ipad problems,

    search this
    http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=e...=&oq=&gs_rfai=
    and you will see there arnt really any problems, i can see one or two driver issues which is easy fixed.

    my phoen has been superceeded yet still receives firmware upgrades on a regular basis.

    its not a question of why im anti apple, its more a question of why you act as though anybody saying something bad about steve jobs is like disrespecting your father, or why any body whiffs anything against an apple and you have 101 excuses or reasons why you should put up with it.

    like any phone just chucks a feature on, apple cant do that, they will call it like fox read and make a huge issue about it.

    the fine line between buying a good product, and being so warped you will convince yourself before steve jobs even has a chance.

    you say my apple damage control thing was bullshit, prove me wrong and test it for yourself.

    go to their tech support forums and make a topic saying these exact points.

    Title - iPad problems

    Body - make something up like when you turn it on the screen flickers on and off even when plugged in.
    Or that when you turn it on a single white apple logo appears in the middle even when fully charged and plugged in and you have tried vairous hard resets etc and nothing is working.

    I guarantee your topic will be missing in the morning.

    It happened to me like 5 times with my ipod problems, some moderators kept cleaning any listed faults that wernt user error.
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    http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/...rand-20090921/

    from the same site you quotes earlier but you must have skipped over it.

    im anti bullshit, and apple is bullshit, all the stuff they market, all the hype they generate, all the people that would rather die than admit a fault with their computer.
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    you cant go on about it, then say you dont care you have used it and im "anti apple" for thinking its a stupid device.

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