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    dont Coronas have a steering box or something?
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    the xt130's do (pre '84).

    you'll be surprised how similar rt142's are to ae86's. its basically a bigger 4 door version of the car.

    kinda how cefiro is to s13 or something like that.

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    do the rt141's and RT142's have a rack and pinion? because I might be able to use them instead of the donor KE70 setups for my TA22 rack and pinion conversions
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    yep they do.... they come in manual and power too. its st141 and rt142 btw, basically the same except engine/gearbox combo, plus some minor things like heavier front antirollbar at the front.
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    cool thanks
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    I think every body is ripping into the idea simply because we are on a toyota forum and from what I've seen around here you guys aren't to fond of nissans or at least cross breeding toyotas I'm using this setup my self and I love it ever since I put custom RCA's and custom hub knuckles in I wouldn't go back I'm also using the s13 crossmember rack and power steering setup which works a treat well much more suited to my driving style atleast

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    no, from what I have seen on here average people are looking for quick and easy to change parts from any source, hence the Pug brake idea. They are ripping into it for inferior result because of the fundamentally flawed design that when matched causes poor suspension geometry.

    Using the S13 crossmember as well is different though, as I said earlier S13 struts means you need to run an S13 crossmember. Now how did you stup yourself getting a crazy amount of track increase?
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    I didn't stop the track increase I left it as is and I run s13 offset wheels and I like it the way it is it's a much different story when you don't use the s13 member and rack btw iyou dot have to swap the whole x member to use s13 struts depending on what car, this thread is talking about ae/ke corollas and sprinters which don't require a s13x member to run s13 struts if u want to stop the massive track Ur doing the wrong suspension conversion
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    no, from what I have seen on here average people are looking for quick and easy to change parts from any source, hence the Pug brake idea. They are ripping into it for inferior result because of the fundamentally flawed design that when matched causes poor suspension geometry.

    Using the S13 crossmember as well is different though, as I said earlier S13 struts means you need to run an S13 crossmember. Now how did you stup yourself getting a crazy amount of track increase?
    actually, im 99% sure using s13 crossmember means mounting the rack lower and even worse geometry.

    there needs to be some technical information here about why s13 gears is bad not 'its poo'.

    first thing i understand is that the tie rods point up.... and thats it. the lower control arm points up a bit too but errr so what.

    the only downside i notice on the corona is (we can assume that the effect is more or less the same, i would drive an ae86 if they weren't such a rip), if you set the shox low and hook it into a bumpy corner you get a bit of bump steer, but even then, if you dont suck at driving and doesnt effect much.

    good points, has made my cars feel 20x more stable and predictable, increased grip 10x (with good tyres), gained more lock, more castor, bigger brakes etc etc as already mentioned.

    so, bump steer, buy this -



    full details here http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/page.php?15

    if you can weld then you get a very good deal there.

    in one mod, increased lock even more, tougher lca's, leveled tie rods, less ackerman, quicker steering.

    this is a drift mod though.

    can we assume that s13 conversion is good for drift but bad for grip, i would somewhat agree with that.

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    they are the knuckles i have in my 86 keiichi.

    they work really well in modifying the bumpsteer inherant in the design switch.

    they also do ok at stopping the "wobble" at full lock s13 are known for.

    Having had a few good conversations with people who are cleverer than me there is nothing inherant in the switch that cannot be gotten past without some simple modifications. If you think about it and go about it in a sensible fashion, it is a genuine option for good track, good brakes, and cheapish coilovers.

    also the bumpstear issue isnt really that big. i think it was ke70dave who did all the calculations in the last forum, but it worked out and less than a couple of mm at full stroke. correct me if wrong
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