CA/SR Conversions into AEs and KEs

[worked]

so lets look at positives and negatives and get them out so this can remain a tech article
(add to what i've missed, i'm a fuckhead remember)
kaibeecee mounts -
retain ae crossmember
retain all ae steering and susp components
tunnel needs a light knock
no modifying of steering shaft needed
enginemounts required (use rb20 ones)

s13-
modify s13 crossmember to fit in
no enginemounts required
cheap!
tunnel will require a tap as well
custom gearbox crossmember needed
steering shaft needs modifying
s12 manual rack or restrictor in s13 ps system to make the steering not ridiculously light (you';d have to ask a powersteering guru what they do, i've heard of it done but never looked into it myself, regardless with s13 ps it feels dumb in a light ke)

note: both setups will require engine and gearbox out to change clutch
this is only to get the engine sitting in your engine bay
you still need to sort:
tailshaft
diff
fuel system
radiator
fmic and piping
wiring (i'm having a chat with the bloke that makes these to get some shipped over to aus to have a try of, simple setup that has all yoru relays for power to the ecu)


be good if we could find out measurements for tailshaft with sr and rb box with a certain diff, info on diffs that are readily available to be modified, what raditator to use, make a diagram for intercooler mounts etc
the simpler we make it for others the more people start repowering shitbox 4kc corollas with sr20s

[Skylar]

That thing totally looks expensive and a waste of money. So easy to wire CA/SR into whatever car, no need for fancy tyco relays.

[worked]

150 us, it is expensive but keeps it neat
it's easy for people with experience to wire in SRs man, like the wiring diagram i posted up the top shows, but there had been some interest in these so here they are

[matt99]

Just on tailshafts Ed, ill measure mine when I pull it out in a week or two (got to get one made for the new build).

For reference sake though, I have been told NOT CONFIRMED that if your using a RB20/30 box with SR bell housing on it and a 31 diff, you can use a 1982ish bluebird tailshaft.

[worked]

mint
i reckon i'll go an rb20/30 box (didn't realise rb30 boxes were the same, sweet)
i read on here somewhere that a bloke got his ke70 borgie diff tubes put on an r31 borg centre, with the axles shortened (if so i don't see why you could use two shorter side axles like you do matt)
this would be handy to know if confirmed

[matt99]

Yeah, RB30 puts the shifter in the correct position as well. Easy enough to get too obviously. MX7 gearbox would be even better (VLT) im assuming they bolt up the same again but are probably stronger.

I wonder what axles that guy would be using? I think passenger side 31 axles will still be too long. Would probably cost the same to do that to the diff as it would be to swap mounts on a 31 diff and shorten it, etc.

[Sam-Q]

I must of missed something, why an S12 rack in particular?

now matt are you running front wheel offset wheels to make that fit?

[worked]

in one of my rants a few posts up i sorta outline it sam
with the s13 powersteering rack it feels shit, either too light when hooked up or i found it odd with ps disconnected, s12 is a manual rack just like ke/ae, and fits in place of s13
this said, lloyd smith ran an s13 ps rack in his 1uz ke70, just drained the fluid and says it feels good

[matt99]

S12 rack, direct bolt manual replacement for S13 powersteer rack. No need for power steer in the 86 and gives you more engine bay room due to not having pumps, etc.

I usually have 15x8 -4 wheels up front. But for reference sake I have used 15x7 +19 aswell and also had my 15x10 -12's on there for a look. All fit, gaurd work required for the 8's and 10's obviosly.

[Sam-Q]

oh I see, how is the length of the rack though? the same as the s13 model?