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    (quote old thread Mcdrift)

    can anyone explain how to adjust camber tops ei where to put the 4 bolts for what camber ? or anyone got a link to a guide?

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    (quote old thread federal)

    there is no "guide", as too many other things factor into the results....

    if you don't know what your doing, take it to a wheel aligner....only way to get it right.....

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    agreed with F EDERAL, take it to a wheel aligner, to make it easer in the future, get the wheel aligner to get a few settings (2, 2.5 degrees neg etc) and mark them out on the strut tops> It makes it easier to change your settings later on

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    (quote old thread stylz)

    One quick question guys. How do i get suspesion droop?
    Atm I'm running tokico short stroke shocks on all 4 corners with 10kg front and 8kg rear springs, i don't know the hieght of the springs but the cas sits slightly above legal height.
    I plan on going 8/6 or 7/5 rates as i like doin hills runs and dori.

    So what do i need to do to get 2 inches of droop? Do i need longer springs or do i need to get rid of my short stroke shocks?
    The write up explains what it is but not how to achieve it :/

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    (quote kona kid)

    Droop is easy to measure, simply measure the distance from your guard edge to the ground, then jack the car up by the chassis until the tyre 'just' starts to lift up. Now measure the disance between the guard line and the ground. the difference in these measurements is the amount of droop you have.

    Say the shocks are 2 inches shorter than stock at full stroke for example, you car will need to be at least 2 inches lower than standard to have as much droop relative to what is has from the factory.

    Hope that helps!

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    a more acurate way to do it is find a place with a 4 post hoist, the ones that lift the car by the wheels, and measure the shock/struts at static hieght. then lift the car by the chassis and measure the extended langths. The difference will be your droop measurment. In a car that is driven on shitty roads i would aim for closer 2 3 inches if its driven on good roads aim closer 2 2 inches

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    (quote old thread stylz)

    yeah, done that and found i have shit all droop. how do i go about setting it up to have more droop?
    i have tokico short strokes in atm and I'm not sure what i have to do :/

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    (quote old thread hatzo)

    This is about the roll steer/ rear steer / what other name people call it

    If you watch enough top level motorsport (F1 , V8 Super cars) ,
    you will see they all run that type of rear suspension geometry.

    It improves all facets of cornering

    Where people get unstuck ,
    is when they use the:
    "People with Nissans remove HICAS , so that means I need to lock up my rear end"

    The real reason , is that it is a Hydro/Electronic System, and It isn't predictable.

    One more thing , inexperienced drivers , don't have the skills and experience ,
    to be able to diagnose there handling issues.

    99% of a cars speed is the Driver

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    (quote old thread konakid)

    If you ahve short stroke shocks and you have only a tiny amount of droop, it means your car isnt low enough for your shocks.

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    (quote old thread gilly)

    changing to the softer 7/5 spring set up should give you more droop as the car will sit lower and the shocks will be in a better range of stroke, if you have minimal droop the shock's stroke is significantly reduced as the shock is being held nearly on full extension.

    optimal stroke is a dark art it seems, i always thought mid stroke was best and its still what i aim for. different motor sports though vary in whats the best range. thats a whole new can of worms.

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