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    as the title states into my 71. with the 3sge im also doing a w series gearbox and i was wondering what tailshaft i need to use to go to my t series or do i have to get a custom one made?if i need a custom one does anyone know anyone in queensland that does them for a good price

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    custom tailshaft

    use bellhousing from old toytoa crown with 2sc engine

    what 3sge are you using as if you are using beams 3sge you wil need to weld new starter housing into bellhousing, i have one in my car that i made and can also make you one if you source me the bellhousing for a small fee, if you are using a gen 2 or 3 i cant help you with starter issues, though if you get the starter to suit your bellhousing then you can always just bolt it up and see if it works, which it most probably will, if not you should be able to mod the sandwich plate to suit as i dont think any other 3sge had a oil drain from the back of the head to the passenger side of the block so you should be able to run the starter on whichevr side your bellhousing tells you to...
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    you could use a sa63 or ra65 tail shaft front section. then t-18 or jdm ae86 rear section.

    you will obviously be limiting your engine position options (fore/aft) but from what i can tell, it should put it in a decent spot, with close to "normal" fireway to head clearance. just depends on which version of engine you use and if youre able to mod the cam covers whether you will have bonnet clearance issues.

    your bell housings options are either sa63 celica, or y powered commercials. the y bell does need modifying. but puts the starter on the intake side.

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    so theres 2 versions of "2sc" as from my google search sa63s have the 2sc in them also, the old crown my belhousing comes from also has a "2sc" in it

    id love to find one and see if the stock beams starter fits it

    otherwise ive done al this modding for nothing, well. saved me aot of searching as i had all the parts laying in my shed

    what gen 3sge u using?
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    I might be interested in a quad throttle beams conversion in the long term future, I wonder if I can get away with keeping my brake booster
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    Hey dr1ft-pig

    No the starter motor won't work on 3sge gen2 motor onwards
    as the starter bolts up on the gearbox/bellhousing side.
    On the gen1 3sge it bolts up under the exhaust manifold like a 4age one.
    Hence the problem with gen 2 onwards flywheel the ring gear teeth are chamfered
    for starter motor meshing on the opposite side as well as different diameter flywheel.
    So you get starter motor meshing probs and flwheels are
    not interchangeable between gen 1 & gen 2 onwards.

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    not sure on the gen engine i will be using if i can afford it it will be beams hahah yeah right but i can get a gen 1 for like 100 so maybe that one i think so we will see but i already have a sa63 bell housing i am just waiting for the phone call to come and pick it up just wanting to get ideas atm thanks for the imput guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3s-86 View Post
    Hey dr1ft-pig

    No the starter motor won't work on 3sge gen2 motor onwards
    as the starter bolts up on the gearbox/bellhousing side.
    On the gen1 3sge it bolts up under the exhaust manifold like a 4age one.
    Hence the problem with gen 2 onwards flywheel the ring gear teeth are chamfered
    for starter motor meshing on the opposite side as well as different diameter flywheel.
    So you get starter motor meshing probs and flwheels are
    not interchangeable between gen 1 & gen 2 onwards.
    well thats true up until gen 5

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    gen 1 or 2 would be good, just for the simple fact its cheap and easy to get pats for so u can thrash em and pop them all u want and parts are plentiful

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    yep going to get a gen 1 atm just won it on ebay for 100 haha we will see what sort of condition its in but i also have the deposit here for a beams that is ment to be here soon

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