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    i can see this question being asked more than once. here is a list of the parts required to do the conversion, if i have missed anything let me know and i'll update the post (its 10:26pm and i have been at work since 4, thats 4 this morning which means i got up a 3 to get to work )


    AE86 or AE71 engine crossmember
    AE71 gearbox x member (86 one can be used)
    AE71 pedal box
    AE71 or AE86 clutch master cylinder
    AE71 or AE86 solid clutch line from master to slave, and rubber hose
    AE71 or AE86 rubber engine mounts
    AE71 or AE86 steel engine brackets
    AE71 or AE86 gearbox stays (link box to block)
    AE71 tailshaft if keeping the ke70 borg diff
    AE86 tailshaft if using S series
    AE86 tailshaft with T18 back half if using T series diff
    T50 gear box
    obviously a 4AGE of some sorts JDM being easier, ADM FWD being a little trickier but no big deal.

    thats just what you need to get the engine in there, you will also need

    modify tank pickup with fuel pump, plus mod top tank plate with a 8mm fitting for fuel feed.
    fuel hose (injection spec)

    loom to suit, either modded AE82 loom if using a bigport, modded AE92 loom if using a smallport, or a slightly less modified JDM loom again if you are using a bigport.

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    and what acc cable do you use if you have a ke70?

    The stock one seems to be too long, or can you still use it?>

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    i used a ke70 cable as the ae71 is too short (same as 4ac ae86's)
    its looped around the cmc


    also u will need the ae71 t50 crossmember (not sure if u can use the k40/50 member?)

    (AE86 on the top, ae71 bottom)

    with the cmc, holes will need to be drilled into the firewall

    more info here:
    http://www.rollaclub.com/faq/index.p...draulic_clutch

    for Auto conversions the shifter hole will need to be wider


    ae71 4ac radiator, both rad in and outlet is on the same side for the 4ac, ke70 rad will need some extention

    also since i used a fwd motor i used a electric thermo fan

    also pics of said 4a rwd engine mounts and gbox stays


    ryco Z200 universal efi fuel filter with a 4ac coil mount to look stocky

    note: it has 8mm nipples
    the stock ae71 lines fuel lines are 6mm and 4mm return

    VL Fuel pump, mounted with 4ac coil mount used lol

    would prefer intank fuel pump but this will do for now

    if you can upgrade to ae86 struts and brakes
    will need the whole ae86 struts (springs, shocks, brakes, etc...)
    use the ke70 strut top and ae86 steering arm (get jdm if u want more lock lolz)


    Wiring 4age
    http://club4ag.com/faq_and_tech_page...86%204A-GE.htm
    Another thread on alternator wiring found here
    http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/bo...howtopic=29433

    *Assuming bigport* When using my info, Refer to Club4AG AE86 ECU pinout/wiring diagram
    Other then that:

    -give ignition power to positive terminal on coil (usually a black/orange wire which connects to the ballast resistor on the old coil which you can use [I did], but you can make your own relay to power coil using the black/orange wire as an ignition trigger)

    -On 14 pin plug, Pin 7 (+B1) and Pin 14 (+B ) can be connected together, and go to ignition (or can come off a relay you used for coil power)
    -On 14 pin plug, Pin 6 (Batt) goes to constant battery 12V source (ie wire straight from positive terminal on your battery if you want)

    For fail safe starting, you may also need to give power to injectors (Yellow wire found on 10Pin plug, Pin 10 (BF)) by joining a wire into the yellow wire and giving it 12V on iginition (again, use the same relay that you may have used for coil, but might be drawing too much current).

    There ARE other ways to do it, and probably make it neater and more factory like but that works.

    Fuel pump relay setup (if you dont have a factory COR relay).
    Alternator
    http://www.rollaclub.com/faq/index.p...Wiring_Diagram

    Other links:
    http://www.rollaclub.com/board/?showtopic=5644
    http://www.blognow.com.au/project86/
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    Quote Originally Posted by AE70 View Post
    and what acc cable do you use if you have a ke70?

    The stock one seems to be too long, or can you still use it?>
    I used an EP92 starlet cable, depending on the manifold though you may need to shorten the cable inner wire. The outer sheath is right on though.

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    very helpful article, should make this a sticky

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    Gearbox stays are not really needed, but if you have them, definatly use them.

    I used an Odyssey Linear Slick BMX brake cable as my throttle cable, works well.

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    PM slydar

    he is a wizard at 4age's

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    Quick question, Looking at gettin an AE71, 4AGE's bolt directly in correct?

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    yeah. the engine will mount using the stock mounts and transmission. 20v will need the dizzy moved or the firewall clearenced.

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    you should really use a surge tank or get a jdm fuel tank or you will get fuel surge when the tank is low going around roundabout/thrashing etc.

    for this you require a small low pressure lift pump to fill the surge tank then a main EFI pump (VL etc) to pump from surge to engine.
    Last edited by ae71; 2nd February 2009 at 11:37 AM.

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