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    Looking at getting rid of the stock gze ecu and getting an aftermarket computer- running a 4agte full exhaust, front mount, boost controller, ligtened flywheel, t28 (bit laggy) current boost 10psi.
    What computer have you guys run or should i look at getting, dont mind going 2nd hand as not looking at getting a full on crazy big $$ computer.

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    Microtech Lt10.. with x4 and multicoils...

    Think all up it will be $1200 for ECU, loom, X4 box, and 4 coils...

    EMS, Haltech, wolf ect are all crap....

    This isn't my bias either...
    I have a freind who owns his owns performance tunning shop and he recommends Microtech. There simple cheap and effective... Anopther plus side is you can take your car to almost anyshop in australia and get it tunned...

    Don't get a second hand Lt8 as microtech wil no longer reconfigure these... So unless you get one thats allready on a 4a with all the stuff you need, DON'T BUY IT..

    Sorry... this doesn't really help your thriffy buying...

    Give it a day and i'm sure someone will suggest something different...
    Best bet is talk to GOOD tuners....

    Easiest way to find said gone tuners... get on silvia forum or skylines australia and ask...

    Please note... just casue there a big name shop DOESN'T mean there good...
    I have been witness to 2 cars in the last week at my freinds shop that just came from 2 different well known shops. boths cars have had BIG dollars spent on them at these shops... eg over 20k and the owners were frustrated with the cars not running right and not gettin the results they were after....
    Quick inspection of both cars revieled that there brand new awsome engines were infact. completely stuffed and needed rebuilding..

    I have more storries but I'll save that for another time....

    Spose you could always get a Motec... it'll do pretty much do anthing but your washing and house work...

    JUST RESEARCH brotha...

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    Quote Originally Posted by --Redwork-- View Post

    EMS, Haltech, wolf ect are all crap....
    This is just a crap, unsubstantiated statement, You think Performance workshops don't have any bias???

    But like Redwork says, do your research, find other cars running similar setups and see what they are using.

    I say Haltech but I am biased,,,

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    Any computer at all. They will all work fine. As long as the instructions are in your mother tongue.

    It takes a long time to get familiar with everything in the computer system (unless you have installed and tuned lots of different cars).

    So the system that works the best is the one you have already spent most time with. If you have no experience, get the system your friend or tuner already has used.

    If someone says a certain ECU is crap, they are just showing their misunderstanding. (A very well known tuner told me one brand of ECU was rubbish, then admitted seconds later he had never even looked at one before. Idiot).

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    The only one I would probably stay away from is haltech, not because its a shit ecu but it doesn't like the 4agze cas for some reason (signals get miss read/interference/noise).
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    microtech has fouled alot of plugs on my mates 20v. has now put in an adaptronic and has had great success. but again, that is because ant lives not too far away and adapt+4a's are his bread and butter
    stroked 2L ca18-ae86 in the build...eta xmas 2012?

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    Wideslider is correct in saying that my quote was ill informed....

    What i should have said EMS is crap.... haltech is ok... But you often have to change sensors when running them as for some reason they don't get a good signal... even from the sensors they supply.!
    And Wolf.... well how knows anyone that runs a Wolf computer.?? I don't nor have ever
    meet someone who does....


    Johl....
    When was is fouling plugs... just driving around or on start up.???
    That seems odd if it happened from just driving around...

    But like everyone here said... Depends one your tuners experiance with a certain product... I just use Microtech cause I can go nearly anywhere to get it tuned... plus they're probably one of the best value for money..

    PS.. my prefered tuner is Justin. from competion tuning... Nice guy. solid tuner..

    I won't name my shame list.... would take to long...


    And as for workshops having a bias..
    My friend makes like $15 dollars off selling a Microtech..
    He can sell an EMS and make $600 profit but allways tells the customer to go with the microtech...
    At the end of the day... If they sell it, more than likey they'll end up having to tune it.. and be responsible for the results..

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    i have heard many many bad things about competition. but i wont go into it here. yeh it would happen on start up. if it didnt start by like the second time his plugs would be farked
    stroked 2L ca18-ae86 in the build...eta xmas 2012?

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    adap peoples.... soooo much support for the 4a platform, and sooo easy to work with.

    have heard good things about haltech, though the ones i have been involved with take a bit of messing with to get sensors working well. Microtech i have heard work great for racing, but lack a lot of resolution for lite throttle response etc for daily.

    Get the best comp u can at the time. Yes all comps will work in the right hands, but some excel in certain areas... ie adaps are well used on 4a's and easy to tune on the dyno, motec are great for all round resolution and control. Thats the difference between a working car and a good tune
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    KZG will supply you an Adaptronic for a lot less than $1200 and it is very very easily a match for a microtech.

    will work with all of your stock sensors.

    is completely reconfigurable to any engine.

    the firmware is constantly being updated. and the updates are free.

    its proven to work on a f'ing shite load of 4ages. plus tons of other engines.

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