I don't know about you but it seems to me that the prices of the ke70's are on the up and some people are complaining about people calling them "drift pigs" I was just wondering do people like these cars because they are fast or do they like them because they are cheap I have one as a paddock basher it seems slow to me but it's not the best example of one either. just wondoring if this car is under rated or over rated what do you think.
Stock AE71 (4AC RWD early 80's Corolla) - between $1-2k
Stock AE86 (4AC RWD early 80's Corolla) - between $4-5k
Buy the AE71 and spend extra $2k you saved on mods. Now car goes faster...
Buy the AE86 and you have a rare future classic...
Either way both good value IMO but if ur going to use it for track work or drift and want bang for your buck then can't go past AE71. Cheap and plentiful parts and essentially the same car.
^^^^^^That was just so damm clear^^^^^^^
right on the money.
86's are too hard to find now, so 70/71's are in demand. they are/can be cool with the same mods as an 86. they are both as fun as each other being based around the same platform. the whole "pig" and "disposable drifter" status given to them doesn't help with sales figures as it makes them seem like they are plentiful, when in actual fact they are too becoming harder to find. they were once plentiful, prolly moreso about a year ago, still are easier to find than an 86.
being loosely based on the ae86 platform means they are essentially the same car, they just look different. if you can look past that or appreciate that for what it is, you can have a car that looks different (porn!!) yet will perform the same as an equally modified 86.
i personally love 70's just look at the JDM ones, if they don't get you hooked you are a fag........
KE70's are porn i will own another one.
if i had found a 70 or 71 in the same nick and same modifications is my car i would have snapped it up,
if it was the same price i wouldnt buy it, so i guess i have double standards, this implies that i think the sprinter is worth more just based on looks, but in another 20 yrs, i think the sprinter will be an absolute classic, they will be very similar to the old school skylines that we see today with radiculous price tags, both are a japanese cult car and will both have fans forever
i paid 500 bucks for my ke70 and its the funnest car iv ever driven. they look hot and are cheap (compared to an ae86). if you want an 86 for the driving experience and not the looks/street cred..... i reccomend a ke70
but i myself will be buying an ae86 in the future as i like the look more. but ke70's really are a good car in their own right and i think they will increase in value like ke10s have, being the last rwd corolla.
but both cars own anything anyway so i feel lucky to have either
ke70 with a 4kc=horrendous
just out of interest... the time taken to convert a ke70 to a ae71 for a 4a series engine, would take about a day to do? of course taking your time, bluding etc? and id cost around $300ish???
just need some confirmation / expeirences on times and costs to convert the two
Alot of people say that ke70's and ae71 are horrid cars to drive in stock form, not that they arnt but who here say's theyre stock ae86 is much more fun to take for a bash?
Ke70's are generally known as cheap cars becuase theyre are getting that age where rust, hundreds of kilometres and general failure of parts is a given. To add to that they are a family seden which generally wouldnt have as much love given throughout its years as coupe or hatch ae86's would be given.
Basically for this reason people tend to think of the cars as pigs, cheap and indisposable. I dont like to think my car as that. I would be much happier to have a seamless ae71 with fresh paint, clean windows and no rust. But basically its the profile of the driver, i dont have the money and QLD government wont let up on water restrictions
I use my ae71 for drifting, it doesnt have a great setup as of current but it does go well. With as much modification as most ae86's have for drift i would say an ae71 would definately go the yards (4age, coilovers, 4 link etc)
I would even put forward that ACTUAL Ae71's are more rarer than ae86's these days.
It doesnt give reason for them to cost more than an ae86, however, it does mean that if the owner of one for sale realises the car has potential for such modification and decideds to up the price a bit for this reason it is fair enough. Obviously it shouldnt be rediculous, but if it is that is their own problem. Either of two things are going to happen in this situation. Theyre not going to have their car sell till they lower the price to a reasonable amount OR the fool that decides to pay all that extra money deserves to have that happen for not reasearching more.
Customisation and difference in parts can leave pricing of cars very questionable.
At the end of the day a car is what you make it. single cam carby 4 door family sedans turn twin cam fi low and wide drift, track or rally weapon can mean all the difference in price. Particulary if the car comes with things that hold their price more (3 peice rims, big cams, coilovers etc)
I gotta say i really like the xe7x's and would love to see many more out on track up against the ae86's just purely for the difference in the cars with the same motors.
I have a lot more respect for them than a simple family sedan or bush basher, have seen nice ones and to me is another cool old-school machine for drift
If you want an ideal drifter that is cheap, but don't mind the car it is, then the ke70/ae71 imo is the best you can buy and will allow you to go further in terms of mods than if you had bought an 86..
However, if you truely want an 86 for the looks then by all means buy one, it's all preference, just make sure it's a good deal and not ripped off like poor Kawaii.
I've heard though, isn't the wheelbase shorter slightly than the 86?
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