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    Hey guys,
    Im just doing a bit of research to either make me look like an idiot or my dad a fool.
    Hes a control freak and recently i blew the gear box in my coupe.
    Now over the past few months ive been following gear box conversions

    Ive told the old man 1 of a few things.

    Replacing the t50 is no problem but you wont get a warrenty.

    He has managed to find a reco t50 for. wait. 1200 dollars undelivered. (20,000 ks or one year )

    I might as well buy 2 or nearly 3 old boxes and sit one in the car and the others for when it blows up thats warranty enough i cant justify 1200 for a 23 year old gear box.

    He has a preconceived idea that trying to put a W5x Series box into my car would cost the box of around 1200 plus labour of about 1500.

    and that the mods to install one are hard and painful.

    Could some one please tell me their experiences and how hard it is to find parts for this conversion and make up brackets?
    and overall cost ball park.
    pros and cons?

    I dont think neither of us are going to beable to settle this between us
    so i need someone to give it to me straight so i can form an opinion and show my father. who is about as head strong as me.

    Thanks and regards

    Jack Ritchie

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    w boxes are priced between $350 and $650 dollars. this is fact. i can have one landed on your door for less than $500 easily.

    for the conversion you will need

    bell - CRS, dellow, nite parts, ect ect. or the adapter kit for azcustoms. $600 max.

    a new spigot bearing? $10

    your clutch modified to accept the input shaft. $100 max.

    a modified tail shaft, or possibly just the front section from a celica. $300 or less.

    a custom gearbox x member. this is the trickiest part and it is not even hard.

    the part is not heavily stress or a complex shape.

    it is basically 2 pieces of flat bar with 2 holes each for the chassis tabs.

    one piece of say 40x40 or 40x20 rhs. with 2 hole saw holes and 2 20mm holes in it for the bolts to pass through/sit inside the section.

    any fabrication joint can do this for you. even an exhaust shop. you could have everything else done and have you car towed to a workshop, have this part made, be charged between $150 and $300, and drive home.

    this is all kinda "worse case scenario" pricing.

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    i like the sound of this.
    How about trying to get the gear lever central or as close to,
    is there a w series box that fits better ?

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    If you know your way around cars and what your doing like me, i got mine done for $600 + an RSM. that got me whole new clutch setup too.
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    Its cheaper overall.. Smash it hard as you want with a 4age.. A boosted 4agte would give it a workout. Get the box ra65 w58 "best position", get nite parts/ajps bellhousing with slave on left side looking at car front on. Good clutch with w58 spline then tailshaft + yoke to suit rear of diff. Only problem with w5# is they dont like to much torque in first gear

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    either of the 2 rear most are fine. CRS do exchange if you can get the right one. you send in your "wrong" one they send you back the one you want apprently. thinks its $100 for the "service".

    ive measured sa63 w55 and ae86 t50 both the bells on and the gear lever position very close to the same.

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    What about a steel case celica box, i have one in my hachi, fits in with an adapter plate, pretty sure the clutch is the 4agze item , the gearstick is in the right place, not sure about the tailshaft but it bolts up to my g-series and uses the original gearbox mount. I think AJPS can help with the adapter plate as well, it is plenty strong enough and you may even score one for a hundy or two, my car runs 4agte+haltech+ 600x300 cooler and 4.3 diff gears.
    regards Mick.

    P.S: No mods to floorpan and the slave is on passenger side.

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    From the top of my head, when I did it, it cost:
    Box (from GZ20, shifter is RIGHT at the back of the stock hole, I in fact trimmed it 10mm for clearance) - $250
    Bellhousing - $400
    Clutch (new 4puck) - $300
    Tailshaft (new one piece) - $300
    Clutch line (bent it up myself and got a brake place to put fittings on it) - $20
    Clutch slave (new) - $25
    Crossmember - DIY
    Clutch fork - Had lying around

    So about $1300 and I didn't pay any labour. You can save money in some places (like clutch if you just respline your current one, or tailshaft if you can use an RA40 front half) but it gives you some idea.

    I reckon if you were going to pay for labour it could get quite pricey quite fast.

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    A friend has a W5* in his AE86 with a custom kit using the standard T50/4AC bellhousing. His kit uses an addapter plate between the gearbox and the bellhousing. I am currently working with him to get this made properly into a kit we can sell. Not available yet, but soon.

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    i think your onto something with an adapter because the t50 form what im getting from places is getting kind of hard to find in reasonable condition

    few more questions when the old man gets home

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