Spring Rates

[RobertoX]

kyb excel g shocks are awesome quality and stand by them, i have been to the track many time with these shocks and hills, oh and daily driven

having said that i have had bilstein in a car they are good obviously, but i think they have a bit of a wank aura around them

bit like snap on tools, the best yes, but a $5 spanner can undo the bolt

and if you have snap ons you want to justify the cost and think you are the bomb fizzle, like i did oh yeah

the law of diminshing returns comes into play here 400 set of shocks are 90% as good as a set of $1400 shocks its the simple truth, and that is before getting into science, and we need to remember we are talking about $500 cars here not F1 cars


using shocks from other cars is cost effective and is a method employed by TRD, Whiteline and a host of other companies.

at the end of the day if you are good enough driver and the body of the car is under control you can drive around problems

just look at simon michaelmores car

-6 camber, 12kg springs, with s/hand shocks of unknown type, low as low 5 mil toe out

and you know what even tho he is a massive fuckhead, he was actually exciting to watch unlike most of the ass draggin d a 'drifters'

^ sorry about going off topic

[RobertoX]

lol yes bored, seeing the BUMP and DROOP lol

anyway beddy byezzzzz

[biggo]

i currently run 4.5kg front and 4.5 in the rear. My personal opinion is its wayyy to stiff for daily if you wind the rebound all the way out on koni's.

Hills are another story tho

also sporting double rear swaybar and soft tyres

[rthy]

who is that simon guy?

[ae71]

the driver i believe.

i have some unknown springs that i found in the shed left over from one of my dads projects.

they are a lot thicker than my TRD 6kg springs i have here that will go in. I'm assuming that are a minimum of 8kg as they do not compress at all, they are also very short (i cut them in half) so i have no front end stroke.

i hear what your saying David and i agree with you to some point. a well setup car will be able to be able to driven faster then a poorly set-up car. although a compromise is sometimes not as bad as you may think. really depends how serious you are.

i have a heaps stiff front but only cut springs in the rear making it very unbalanced. when i first drive the car when you tuned the car the back end would way a lot making it feel like it way sliding (a very weird feeling ). although they are badly matched and i have standard shocks all around im still able to push the car a few seconds quicker in the hills with these.

they have there draw backs, for example i was braking up hill and there was some corrugations in the road, it made the front end bounce hopping along slightly locking the fronts each time it bounced (about 5 times). its typically not too bad for bounce on the hills but on the highway/town it can be quite rough. its my daily driver and there are more unfriendly parts of the car which are more of a concern than the stiffness.

[ae86trueno]

7kg front 6kg rear,
The TRD race shocks are fantastic, we were able to play around the settings and dial them in
and made a full second around wakefield i the end.

Definatly needs some bigger roll bars though.

[Konakid]

Any idea what sizes your going with? I'm interested to know, cheers.

[rthy]

konakid: which suspension setups have you tried as in different spring rates or things like that.

[ghetto ke]

Stock AE86 spring-rates were about 1.7-2kg/mm (100-115lb/in) from memory and rear was actually stiffer than front.
Reasonable street/hills upgrade is about 6k Front, 4.5K Rear - which is what I used (with TRD shocks) before I switched to coilovers.
Most drifters run 8K front and 6K rear which gets a bit bumpy for a daily. I am currnently using 10K front, 8 K rear for circuit/hillclimb but this requires semi race rubber something like Advan A048. May try Toyo R888, Bridgestone RE55 or Dunlop Direzza and see what tyre matches better...

[RobertoX]

simon michaelmore

you need to get out more