Tracing the steering wheel!

[Robo86]

Ok guys, there is a thread on NS about this so i thought why not start the discussion here, please don't turn this into a shit fight thread. What are your thoughts on tracing the wheel and do you do it? (example video's of your technique) heres a quote from Laurence (on Nissan-Silvia) that wrapped it all up pretty well in one post. Ken (ae86hachiroku) has some good points too that im sure he will add!

Here is another quote this time from Alexi.



Here is a video of mine to get the ball rolling, my technique is not that great (i hardly ever do it) but i think its to do with how i have learnt and how much castor i run, ill be trying it as much as i can this friday (at QR) and will hopefully return with some new footage.

cheers guys, let the discussion begin!

p.s GRRR at this forum not allowing bedding of the movies

[obey wan boenny]

Yeah some good advice and tips I learnt without doing it and never felt the need in my old car. My ke doesn't have much castor so i have to flick the wheel to get it to counter steer faster.
Last practice in ke i tried to do it as much as possible, mainly on snakies though, definitely feel the difference I'll try to practice it more and hopefully improve my driving technique.

Heres some incar footage from a few pracs ago, of me limiter bashing behind kalbys ca18det ke sloppy driving really but still...

[ae86hachiroku]

It should probably be a sticky as there isn't much more to add, that sums it up enough. Anything else from NS was jibber jabber from non believers, so all those points above are the ownage lines pretty much.

My videos which you've probably seen anyway.







I started tracing from day one, can't think of any other way of doing it. Very reliable.

Robo, although you don't trace in that video, it seems you have a decent amount of control anyway, as your hands aren't completely letting go of the wheel, and merely just sliding through it, but yeah, with some tracing the transitions would be a lot more aggressive instead of progressive.

[marvis]

I Think I do it like robo from memory. Maybe a bit more hold of the wheel. I can't find any videos.

marvis.

[bigm]

Interesting, definatly something to think about when i finnaly get into the track one day. hopefully not to far away

[ae71neo]

I dont think i trace as much as that dude in the video that Alexi posted does, but as you can see in my vid, the little bit of incar i have you can see, i do trace. Well whatever you call it thats my technique. It works for me.



I've got more incar stuff i will put up one day.

[Ae86sam]

I saw a video a little while ago from the rear quarter of my car @ archi that looks partially at the steering wheel.. Apparently i do very little input in the wheel using more the throttle/brakes to transition and only really turn the wheel for the inital entry.. The same applies for Parklands and Tamworth (small tracks)

With Qr i have little input as well (just a little less than rob really) in an underpowered car and alot less in a powerfulcar where the throttle (and brakes) can be used for steering more easily..

ps.. Love the look on your face robo lol...

[Intense]

I'm more interested in how you guys deal with the lack of power steering.

I've got 4 degrees pos castor, -1.5 degrees camber and 195's on the front. And a 350mm personal wheel and it's still pretty hard to turn the wheel, almost always a 2 handed affair which makes tracing much more difficult, even the initial flick takes a fair bit of effort. I've got a feeling that I just have a crap seating position atm so a dished wheel shoudl fix that

[ae86hachiroku]

Maybe you need to hit the gym... ahaha

[blair]

ive got a heap of castor aswell ( my bumper is slowly getting shaved down by the tyre lol)

i find that once the car is unsettled the steering is wayyy easier!

anyway on topic: i dont trace at all.
i think im still mid-way between the "oh shit, im sideways now i have to grab the wheel before i spin" stage
and the actually figureing out some things stage lol

so i will comment again after more trackwork