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    Hi y'all ive got a question in regards to registering my corolla I'm for Melbourne and ive nearly got all the bits together to do the 4age swap in my ke70 and it going to be my daily drive, now the car is currently un rego'd and has the 4kc motor in it! Would I be able to swap over the motors then get a roadworthy cert for it and then get it rego'd or do I have to get an engineers cert to do this? I've been told by a few people that I don't need a engineers cert because I'm not modifying the car to the extreme I'm simply swapping over motors from the same family and correct me if I'm wrong the ae71 had a 4age in them from factory so I'm assuming that haveing the 4age is just another option like A/C! Or power windows!

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    Nup, ae71's came out with the 4ac.

    Anyways Best bet is to talk to vicroads or your mechanic for clarification.

    Change of engine
    1. Replacement engine is identical to the original engine, or is an option allowed by the manufacturer for the same model vehicle
    The optional engine must be offered in Australia by the vehicle manufacturer as an option for that vehicle (or certified variants). The change of engine may be recorded by VicRoads provided that the registered operator or a motor mechanic, or dealer in that make of vehicle or an Automotive Engineer signs a declaration certifying the engine is optional for the vehicle model, and that all modifications made by the manufacturer for the same vehicle model with that optional engine have been completed.

    You will need to attend a VicRoads Customer Service Centre to have the vehicle's engine inspected to confirm the new engine details. No appointment is required. You will also need to complete a Change of Vehicle Description form.


    2. Replacement engine is not of a type offered by the vehicle manufacturer as an option for that vehicle or where alterations, or changes to the vehicle's frame or structure are made, and/or specially fabricated supports or structures are used
    You will need to attend a VicRoads Customer Service Centre for an inspection of the vehicle to confirm the new engine details. You will also need to complete a Change of Vehicle Description form and provide VicRoads with:

    a VASS Approval Certificate from a VicRoads Vehicle Assessment Signatory
    an original receipt for the purchase of the engine as proof of ownership of the engine

    3. Replacement engine is not of a type and/or make offered by the vehicle manufacturer as an option for that vehicle, but is equivalent in general configuration, power, mass, and emissions standard to that of the original or an optional engine for the vehicle model and can be installed without any structual alterations.
    The change of engine may be recorded by VicRoads provided that the registered operator or a motor mechanic, or dealer in that make of vehicle or an Automotive Engineer signs a declaration certifying that all modifications made by the manufacturer for the same vehicle model with that engine, have been completed.

    A Change of Vehicle Description form must be completed providing new engine details. An inspection to confirm engine details is also required unless a Certificate of Roadworthiness or VASS Approval Certificate including the new engine number is provided (only for a currently registered Victorian vehicle). An original receipt for the purchase of the engine must be provided as proof of ownership of the engine.

    When a VASS Approval Certificate has been supplied for a replacement engine, then an equivalent replacement engine can be fitted without another VASS Approval Certificate being presented (eg 350 c.i. V8 engine replaced with 350 c.i. V8 engine).
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    Yeah I found that on the vic roads website today might just have to rego it befor I swap the motors over sigh!
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    would deffinetly have need to engineer it

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    Well I just called vic roads and explained my situation and what I wanted to do and they said that I wouldn't need to get an engineers cert! I said that I'd be increasing the size of the motor from a 1.3 to a 1.6 and they said as long as there's no modification to the chassis then it doesn't require an engineers cert I just have to tell them
    That I'm swapping over the motors at the point of inspection for when I go to get the car rego'd and show them the roadworthy cert and all the receipts for the engine and car and it should be fine any thoughts on this?

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    If the 4k is running just get it registered with that first. After registration call up and change engine numbers. Did you state to them that you were converting from Carb to EFI? Technically you do need an engineers cert but people have gotten away with it for years. Keep the conversion clean and you shouldn't have a problem

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    Really depends on the person behind the desk, if they are in the know or just a job person.
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