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    Default Beams 3S oil Pump and firewall clearences

    Quick query regarding the setup of the oil pumps on the 3s beams motor.

    Is the oil pump contained to a seperate piece on the front of the engine? such as a 4age? or does it extend down into the big aluminium cast section on the lower part of the engine?

    Trying to work out how much space can be gained from making a dry sump pan for one of these, and if you can remove the whole aluminium cast section from the bottom or if you can only make a new sump pan to bolt to it that is more shallow.

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    found this picture, which is off a 3sge, but im not sure which gen it is, as the sump castings from the earlier generations are different.

    i'm hoping this is off a beams, as it would make it much easier to fit into the engine bay, and hopefully solve my clearance issues that i can foresee happening.
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    sump clearence with ground?

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    sump clearance with ground, crossmember, but also the little extension on the front of the motors which comes very close to the swaybar, if you can get rid of all of that there is loads of room.
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    you might want to look into using a 2S sump and pickup
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    mod the tunnel possably so it sits back further? this is how im clearing the swaybar.
    how do jays mounts clear the crossmember? but this doesnt help ground clearence suppose you dont want to run a bash plate?

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    you can use countersunk bolts on that plate at the very front to get that tiny bit more out of it
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    you can't cut floors out in IPRA

    if i'm going to put one of these in i want to do it properly and get it as low and as far back as possible.

    has anyone got any pictures of beau yates's setup with the dry sump from the underside of the car? all the photos i have are from the top, and you can't see what the lower section of the motor looks like.
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    if you can remove it altogether you will gain about 100mm of drop in the overall motor mounting position, which will make fitting everything a lot better.
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    i just had a sway bar made up to go around the sump ,kept std bar there and used some coat hanger to bend it in the right posi and then marked it and had a new 1 made
    on the dry sump i have the pan and pump and also the brackets for it to bolt up to the motor etc ,its all as new ,i just havnt got around to use it yet
    pump is a 3 stage pump with 2 stage suck and 1 stage pump bracket bolts to the exhaust side and does pump with belt and bolt that supports the front pulley for oil pump also have a spare idle pulley that sits on the std pump etc

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    how does that oil pump thingy let the motor sit lower?
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