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Sleeper
27th September 2009, 03:21 AM
So I'm a newbie and I'm sorry for posting so many different topics in the title, but if you could just point me to a forum or in a general direction I would be stoked (and yes I have looked through numerous forums on numerous sites, but I know you guys know the way around a lot better then me).

I'm looking for specific articles on...

-A decent price for an engineers certificate for an sr20 in an ae86 aswell as two bucket seats. (Best quote I have had for just the sr20 alone is $770 from the place in canberra recommended on this forum).

-A decent price and place for a paint job (I am happy to do all the prep work but can't spray for anything)

-What insurance do you guys use? (I only ask as I could only get "justcar" insurance to give me a quote and ended up getting a price of $2300 a year on an agreed value of $9000 (less $5000 to what I said I paid) as well as an excess of $2700 for an at fault claim...clearly not worth it, but let me know what you guys think...

-A good pair of coilovers for a daily driver (which will never be drifted...), Just want a low and smooth ride.

-Decent and tasteful engine mods for a fully stock sr20 if any?

-Your opinions on camber. I love the look but is it needed/worth the cost and tyre replacement ratio? If yes, what parts are needed to convert a 1983 ae86 to an angled beast and the rough price behind each.

Thanks so much in advance guys

Sleeper

ke70dave
27th September 2009, 10:55 AM
ok here we go!

a) yellopages.com.au. otherwise i cant help you as im not in adelaide.

b) the prep work is the hard part, find a cheap spray gun and give it a go. mine turned out ok. or get out the phonebook and ring up everywhere getting quotes.

c) just cars for me. knowone else will cover the mods. and thats sounds like a normal price for fully comprehensive. i assume your quite young? and not a rating 1? also if you dont agree on the agreed value then its not an agreed value is it?

d)too broad of a question. almost everyone on here makes their own coilovers by welding on thread etc. talk to mr AJPS. you need to decide on spring rate and shocks to suit. or just get some adjustable shocks and play around with it yourself. have a look here

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/showthread.php?t=820

d)see nissansilvia.com. is it turbo?

e) its not about the look....it has a purpose. ...good camber setup shouldnt wear the tyres excessively. the idea of camber is to get the whole tyre being used when you hit corners. and the fact that tyres have best lateral grip on a slight angle. id say its defintely needed if you want grip. but its your decision if grip is worth it or not. the only problem with it is that you will get a bit of tyre wear if you drive it alot on the street, as you do alot of "Straight line" driving, not hitting corners hard. so you will get wear. its a trade off i guess.

many ways to gain camber. some good some not so good. best way a set of camber tops. or some xt130? corona control arms. but i think camber tops are still good to make sure that its perfect.

Sleeper
27th September 2009, 01:20 PM
Legend mate.

As for a few answers I just hit 20 years old and am living in Sydney.

I have called up a fair few engineering places already, but a few say they won't or can't do the ae86 with the mods listed...I guess I'll just have to keep trolling and see what I pull up with.

Its an SR20DET with just the stock turbo

As for everything else thanks a million mate

biggo
27th September 2009, 06:06 PM
I think engineering in NSW involves emissions testing. Good luck getting it past emmisions.

Please read the tech articles/questions and get a better idea of what you want.

ke_70
27th September 2009, 11:41 PM
dont all engineering cert go through emissions?
and is it emissions one the type of car or type of engine?
because if it engine he should have no problems right?

Sleeper
27th September 2009, 11:49 PM
Yeah I thought it was emissions tested on the year and make of the engine, and as its stock as a rock it should be a pretty simple test...

Correct me if I'm wrong but!

trueno85
28th September 2009, 12:08 AM
goes off the motor not the car its in, has to have all standard emisson control stuff so egr's, carbon canisters and everything else

Sam-Q
28th September 2009, 09:55 AM
get the car engineered with the stock SR20 loom and ecu and just the minimum you need to bolt it in and get it on the road. After you have the paper then do the other mods.

Just use XT130 lower control arms.

I might be able to offer engine and trans mounts in the future.

Dregs
29th September 2009, 04:39 PM
i'm not sure if its the same, but when i put xt130 LCAs on my ke70 i needed to get longer tie rod tubes. just a thought

Sam-Q
29th September 2009, 04:42 PM
you shouldnt have to, I didnt on my ae86 and others with their ke70

sundee
30th September 2009, 12:23 AM
A decent price for an engineers certificate for an sr20 in an ae86 aswell as two bucket seats. (Best quote I have had for just the sr20 alone is $770 from the place in canberra recommended on this forum).

Autosport in Kirawee use to be the place to go, but now i think greg has sold the buisness so i dont know, u can contact Sexy16 on this forum if require engineering

-A decent price and place for a paint job (I am happy to do all the prep work but can't spray for anything)

as said prep work will make your final finish rank or great. painting the car take an hour max, prep takes days, some guys wont touch it unless they do the prep because they wont put their name to a cheap looking finish. have a go on your own, its actually not that hard

-What insurance do you guys use? (I only ask as I could only get "justcar" insurance to give me a quote and ended up getting a price of $2300 a year on an agreed value of $9000 (less $5000 to what I said I paid) as well as an excess of $2700 for an at fault claim...clearly not worth it, but let me know what you guys think...

never had it... but tried shannons?

-A good pair of coilovers for a daily driver (which will never be drifted...), Just want a low and smooth ride.

if u want an off the shelf item, check out our site sponsors, 2 of them do coilovers, if u just want a low ride just get good shocks and springs, will be cheaper

-Decent and tasteful engine mods for a fully stock sr20 if any?

all depends on budget... bolt on turbo , GT28RS or most popular GT2871R 72 trim i think.. some form of boost control, ECU - Apexi Power FC, good intercooler, exhaust, cams if u have the money,, ohh and if your gonna rev the crap out of it get some rocker stopper.. SR's love to snap the odd rocker arm

-Your opinions on camber. I love the look but is it needed/worth the cost and tyre replacement ratio? If yes, what parts are needed to convert a 1983 ae86 to an angled beast and the rough price behind each.

camber as u mentioned does increase uneven tyre wear. but its used for handeling more then looks. camber allows your tire to have more contact patch in a corner. if u just want it to look the goods, just get some Sigma LCA's and some ADJ camber plates. if u need camber plates Pm me.
ADM (all drift mods can supply the rest of the parts or go to your local wrecker)


hope this helps some

PeakingDuck
30th September 2009, 12:33 AM
Engineer's Certificate- www.consulmotive.com.au

sundee
30th September 2009, 01:01 AM
Engineer's Certificate- www.consulmotive.com.au

ahahahahahah goodluck! your car will only pass if its factory standard! speaking from experience to BTW. one of the strictest engineers in sydney

Sleeper
30th September 2009, 03:31 AM
Thanks for all the info guys, it really is helping!

Where can I head to find more out about the rocker stopper???

PeakingDuck
30th September 2009, 04:15 AM
ahahahahahah goodluck! your car will only pass if its factory standard! speaking from experience to BTW. one of the strictest engineers in sydney

Keeping all factory emission's control equipment and passing a emission's test? Yeah John is strict, but if your gonna get a cert you may as well do it properly.

sundee
30th September 2009, 11:35 AM
Keeping all factory emission's control equipment and passing a emission's test? Yeah John is strict, but if your gonna get a cert you may as well do it properly.

i mean for most guys he's not really an option, he is very very strict,
emissions go out the window once u change the ecu, if your keeping everything factory , ECU included and your not doing much to your exhaust system then u will most likely pass. guys rocking round in 70's and 86 arnt usually 100% street legal either.

Tim.duncan
1st October 2009, 09:22 AM
i payed 660 to my enginear for a 4agze and modified brakes and that is a bolt in affair so 770 for a sr which requires modifying cross members and trans tunels ect sounds like a good price. cant really help with details as i have only done this in sa

not sure about nsw but in sa if the motor is stock then emisions testing is not required BUT if you change anything it is so keep it STOCK!! until it passes then go nuts!

if i was you i would just turn the boost up to 10 psi and spend all your money on suspension there is no point having loads of power if you cant use it!

sundee
1st October 2009, 11:18 AM
if i was you i would just turn the boost up to 10 psi and spend all your money on suspension there is no point having loads of power if you cant use it!

good call, id pay that

Sleeper
1st October 2009, 08:48 PM
True true.

In regards to the sprinter it was for sale on here a little while ago...Its got 223 rwkw at 17 pound boost but i've already turned that down as I want the engine to last for a reasonable amount of time.

The king springs are balls but and hence coil overs with some nice shocks are the next big purchase (after i get a stock bonnet, tear off the t wing and get rid of the hektic rims...)

sundee
2nd October 2009, 02:09 PM
u got engine specs for that power? inc turbo, hope thats not a stock engine , because if it is someones fed you some BS

Sleeper
3rd October 2009, 12:46 AM
Straight through exhaust from the turbo back, Autronic computer, its the redtop s15 engine but i'm pretty sure its the stock turbo for that...

I have dyno sheets and also talked to the mechanic who did the conversion and it all seems legit so far. Running that much boost is asking for trouble in my eyes but, hence I'm keen to tune it down a fair bit.

sundee
3rd October 2009, 07:20 PM
the S15 engine is the same as S14 - its only younger, exhaust + ECU + boost i would only be expecting 200 - 210 kw at the wheels... sorry man iv had bad experience with tuners when i had my SR... i had S14 SR gt2540 - 264' 12mm lift cams, full exhaust, front mount, ECU--- 18 psi ( 245kw) , it was pinging - was not happy, took it to a recommended tuner, 16psi ( 210kw) and it went twice as good it need cam gears as power ban dies at around 5500... stock SR with an exhaust and ecu with a 2871R your looking at 200 - 215 give or take

Hokey
3rd October 2009, 07:31 PM
people get camber for performance? wtf?