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slideways
3rd October 2009, 06:52 PM
Yo, just trying to wire up a gze ignitor with an ems 4424.

Does anyone have info on what each wire coming out of the ignitor is.

I can find some information on the colours of each wire, but it doesn't actually tell me what each one does.


Cheers

Skylar
4th October 2009, 12:31 AM
You can't.

Go buy 2 single channel ignitors or one dual channel.

DX20VT
4th October 2009, 08:12 PM
Yeah the GZE igniters are a thing of there own in the way they trigger.

instead of two wires being a trigger for each coil,

one wire is the trigger, and the second is the sequencer for which one to fire,
so not compatable with any aftermarket ECU I know of.

R&D Mechanical
4th October 2009, 08:28 PM
really cant use them at all? shit!

what can you use? links?

slideways
4th October 2009, 10:52 PM
really cant use them at all? shit!

what can you use? links?

Done some research, and it depends on what your setup is.

Most Ecu companies offer an igniter for a range of channels.

However this only aplies for distributorless ignition systems.

R&D Mechanical
4th October 2009, 11:23 PM
so coilpack ignitiors aer usable? im using an adaptronic

slideways
4th October 2009, 11:28 PM
so coilpack ignitiors aer usable? im using an adaptronic

You still need an ignitor to run coilpacks.

I have Gze twin coil packs forsale also, with them you would need a 2 channel ignitor to run them.... The adap ecu sends a signal to the ignitor, then the ignitor pulls earth from coils for a certain amount of time called Dwell, and is measured in milliseconds then they fire when earth is dropped again

R&D Mechanical
4th October 2009, 11:29 PM
yeah i got the stock ignitor, well thats gay

slideways
4th October 2009, 11:34 PM
yeah i got the stock ignitor, well thats gay

Yeah unfortunatley toyota makes their ignition systems really complicated, and like it was mentioned before the stock ignitor has one trigger input, then another wire tells the igniter when to switch the signal from output to output

R&D Mechanical
4th October 2009, 11:35 PM
any idea where to get a 2way?

slideways
4th October 2009, 11:42 PM
http://www.enginemanagement.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=32&products_id=133

Also comes with tacho output

http://www.tfelectronics.com.au/PageFiles/ignition.html

This is the bosch Item, probably more expensive than the ems unit

http://wolfems.cart.net.au/details/166236.html

M&W is quality


http://www.tweakit.net/shop/product_info.php?products_id=188

And the haltech unit

Hen may possibly be a nut
6th October 2009, 01:27 AM
I used two Bosch 008 ignitors found on almost any Camira at Pick-a-part. Despite being "smart" ignitors, they've worked fine on my GZE for years.

Hen

Adsport
26th November 2009, 01:17 AM
email adaptronic, they will be able to advise you which to use and even sell you some.... i am running an adaptronic with two single channel ignitors which are just bosch generic ones i bought from adaptronic for $50 each