New Drift Circuit + Driver training Skidpan for sydney

[sundee]

Now that that title has got your attention:

This is a Partition from "us" the community who would like to see a Traditional Japanese style Drift Circuit + Skidpan built in Sydney.

No need to be asking where and when or how, because none will be disclosed at this time.
This is all part of the application and I will need the full support of the "drift" community and fellow car lovers alike to get behind and support this fully.

The home of drift in NSW - Oran park has now been leveled.
Sydney has now ONLY 1 raceway being Eastern Creek which has now turned its attention to F1 and does not cater for the booming drift community
Next options are Marullan and Wakefeild park being over 2 hrs from sydney.
I dont need to explain to you guys why we need a track in sydney/NSW because you all know why.

Webmaster Nicko - if you can suggest the best way to get a tally of supporters that would be great.
Ive created a poll - for and against

please leave comments to why YOU would like to see a circuit/training center like this in sydney.

Just a note keep this topic for all guys who support this, dont want to clog the thread with rubbish.

Cheers guys.

Begin.......let it rip

[xero]

i like drift, although im pretty ordinary at it first love is circuit.

but something like this would be awesome for not just drift but other things like motorkhanas and the like. went to the sutton driving centre on the weekend which has a hill climb circuit there, you could build something similar to that as a "street styled" course and run all sorts of shit there..

[driftke70]

more tracks the better, although qr is over 2 hours from me and it doesnt really bother me, marulan seems like an awesome track.

[redsprinter]

yes. because it keeps it off the street and saves lives. the drift track could also potentially be used as a driver training for L & p plater since a drift circuit would better resemble country and mountain roads.

serious drag racer go to EC not the runs .. so i dont see why it should be any different.

[lolwat]

if people cant do it on a track they will simply turn to doing it on the street

[sundee]

and thats why we need another track in sydney.

[lolwat]

that is correct, where someone rich who is into 80's toyota's

[Jacobxxx]

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[Todd]

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haha i like this.

[sundee]

^^confused.

[ke_70]

read hid thread yo!

id probley travel once a yeah to a good track

[corknose]

he won the lotto joel.

[sundee]

yeah i wish cal - just wanna try get something going. more track time, closer to syd would be sick, are u going tonight? ill see ya then

[Leigh]

1 vote for the old tip site at menai!!!
Plenty of space that can't be built on (big buildings etc)
no residents too close
one of my mates has been talking to the council about getting an allocation of land out there 0% chance of anything happening though without a million people signing a petition

[Rice86]

i like to drive Hard, and only place that i can do that right now is on the streets, risk my license and money, need a legal palce to do it, keeps everyone happy!! and there are so much incompitent drivers out there that can do with a few more driving hours =.='

[Rice86]

1 vote for the old tip site at menai!!!
Plenty of space that can't be built on (big buildings etc)
no residents too close
one of my mates has been talking to the council about getting an allocation of land out there 0% chance of anything happening though without a million people signing a petition

a petition is all that is needed to get it lightly started?

[Leigh]

Nah I'm sure they would put a million other hurdles to jump!!

We basically need to have all drift clubs and other local motorsport clubs and all the variations that this includes to become affiliated so there are enough people and money (sponsors) to be able to form a single governing body/lobby group. Then hassle the crap out of local council/government to get them to see that we mean business. If they can see that building local motorsport complexes will provide money, jobs, a place to let loose on the track, driver training, a central place for the Police to be able to make contact with young (and old) drivers and hopefully more respect by these drivers for the road rules and if nothing else respect for other people who they share the road with.

Heaps of other sports have governing bodies etc PR teams etc etc etc
Sports like surfing used to have a very very bad public image...druggo hippy layabouts
By forming surfing clubs and holding inter club comps they managed to turn around the image and the industry into a multi billion dollar industry with our top surfers being household names all over the world.
One thing to point out here is that generally the comps that were held were free for spectators!!!!!
This encourages heaps of peple to come and watch which then in turn make potential sponsors think hey they have a pretty big fan base who might like to buy my product, then sponsors jump on the band wagon and it starts rolling.

Even with Skateboarding enough people (kids and their parents along with professional skateboarders) helped to show councils the benefit of building skateparks and getting kids out of factories, schools etc
there are skateparks everywhere

The best thing the local car scene can do is keep it off the street and get rid of the "Hoon" label by being more responsible on the street and get to know your fellow car enthusiast we all want the same thing after all some where we can legally enjoy our cars
So what if they drive a brand new GTR, a Civic, a Falcon,a Commodore, a Go Kart or a Hot Rod!!!

There are enough people into motorsport in any given state or local area to be able to show councils that we have the numbers to make it viable to build a track here there or where ever.

[Richard]

You should post this on every forums. But you will need to back it up constructively as to why we need another track . Safety "seems" to be a number one key factor as to keeping illegal racing off the street etc etc. Also like it could be used for driving instructors to teach young people how to get out of sticky situations. If its a good track it may draw international attention, bring international races over here which will bring more tourist and more tourist means more money and better for the economy....list goes on! lol you could tell the cops if they want revenue to just wait at the exit once track days are over...j/k.

[sundee]

nah bull crap ive already decided if cops are going to hang out side ill be right out their telling them what for!
yeah this is not just a case of saying we want a track , here is a petition, give us a track.
ive found land, im putting together a fairly big case in our favour.
its already up on toymods and nissan silvia but alot of the guys over their seem to be synics.. instead of supporting and voting, they would just want to know the ins and outs of a cats ass.
... i think ill leave the community support thing to last, and go visit track days and get a hard copy petition signed.

but thanks for all the tips guys, its all appreciated, i just hope this all goes through.

[Beau]

Got this email from my Aunty a couple days ago regarding the new track thats been approved for Wyong (North of Sydney) to replace Oran Park.


Let the boys know the race track is definitely on the books to go ahead, The Council is having problems with some of the locals but egar to have for attraction to area apparently it's going to have motels shops etc a big deal for the area

The locals she speaks about are the local indegineous people to that area. From what i have heard from other people the council has got the two requests needed approved and the entries to the track have been built.

http://express-advocate-wyong.whereilive.com.au/news/story/motor-sport-centre-mooted/

[pen15]

who the fuck chose no?

[sundee]

Their is always one tool - hes prolly 16, same on toolmods and NS, some guys chose no.... just baffles me..

[OMG866]

hey just had a look at the leader. not sure if its old news but there is a write up on the call for a track in the shire. Anyway im not goin to write up the whole article but everyone that is heaps keen on anyform of track in the shire or near by should reply to this link on your thoughts why we should have a track.


http://www.theleader.com.au/news/local/news/general/car-racers-call-for-a-track-in-shire/1785471.aspx

[evil86]

i'd say having a track is better then not having way. location is not an issue as we are all decided enthusiast so we will pretty much travel. so im down for it. anything keeping people doing stuff offroad is better than onroad.

[OMG866]

so Basicly just everyone write we wont a track in the link i provided.

Plz lol

[ae8zn6]

Don't underestimate the power of locals complaining. Look what is happening at MDTC, they can essentially no longer host drift events due to noise complaints. Apparently the noise from tire squeal alone is over 90DB let alone the engine noise, and as such they cannot host it. Must be a massive pain for the developer, after going and spending all his money on a track, noise complaints are seriously restricting how he can earn his money back. Seems odd to me that the council can approve the development of a facility and then basically deny the use of said facility :(

PS I think our best shot is convincing Wakefield to host more drift days: 3 a year is simply a cop out. 2 hours from Sydney is seriously not a big deal and you wont need the capital or have to convince the council, police and residents that a new track is in their best interests. (My 2c)

[OMG866]

point taken but this thread is really just to get another track in the sydney region. there are plenty of locations in the southerland shire that are well clear of any houses.

come on ppl positive feedback

[focus_7]

I didn't realise Initial drift was menai based.

[OMG866]

ya do now. the more feedback ( the leader ) gets the greater the chance of all this coming together

[sundee]

meh size of a netball court? the land im after is masssssiivee!!! i wonder if my comment will pass moderation? hmmm
MDTC still run drift events!! i've spoken to gary personally though their are restrictions

[pen15]

lol at Paul in that article im all fired up now if there where more tracks i would actually go to them and not wanna slide on the streets

[sundee]

and I'm pretty sure your part of the majority their, though dip stick old goats and pollys would rather just say let's cruch their cars... Like their not plentiful and cheap? If we had a track in the shire i'd skid it atleast 3 days a week

[OMG866]

that paul guy is a a joke. not thinking about anyone but himself.

I say... FUCK YOU PAUL

[OMG866]

Any updates on this topic?

[sundee]

yeah, putting together the proposal atm, its kinda the hard bit, ive never done one before so we'll see how it goes, ive got a mate working with me, he's got access to alot of info i wouldnt be able to get my hands on.... keep posted though, ill update when i can, i stopped posting on tool mods and NS, to many nags on those forums,

[OMG866]

Great keep up the good work.

[OMG866]

Just racked this lil vid up that the old fernado has made at the WSID which is western sydney international dagstrip. Now i kno some of you arnt big fans of I.D.A but this area could be turned into some pritty sweet drift layouts.

Let me kno what you all think

http://www.youtube.com/user/MotiveDVD?blend=2&ob=1#p/a/u/1/sHyE84U-9VE

[sundee]

ive seen that vid, not a fan at all. thats not a circuit, its a few cones in a carpark. good for a few goes, about all

[OMG866]

Good point. A circuit would be ideal. But at this point in time anything is better than nothing.

[corknose]

amy(project d) is doing a friday night drift thing at wsid.

[ae86ln]

[QUOTE=Beau;239264]Got this email from my Aunty a couple days ago regarding the new track thats been approved for Wyong (North of Sydney) to replace Oran Park.

[QUOTE]

hope this is going ahead because the people who live north of sydney there is besically nothing and wakefeild is like 3.5 hours away from newcastle. i definitly want another track in sydney. or hope at least they upgrade eastern creek to suit drifters more ( which proply wont happen).

[Richard]

pitty because i just moved from wyong

[bigdaddykane]

good for me as i just moved near there :), but doubt it would be done before i move back to adel tho, but will sign petitions and write letters if i have to, more tracks the better i say

[trueno85]

http://www.theleader.com.au/news/local/news/general/car-enthusiasts-eye-lucas-heights-have-your-say/1803904.aspx

Proposed complex in Lucas Heights

[skit]

[QUOTE=Beau;239264]Got this email from my Aunty a couple days ago regarding the new track thats been approved for Wyong (North of Sydney) to replace Oran Park.

[QUOTE]

hope this is going ahead because the people who live north of sydney there is besically nothing and wakefeild is like 3.5 hours away from newcastle. i definitly want another track in sydney. or hope at least they upgrade eastern creek to suit drifters more ( which proply wont happen).

I may not have the latest info, but have been on the council mailing list for this proposal. The idea was canned some time ago from the last correspondence that I have seen (some months ago).

Last word was the council was approaching other regional councils (e.g. cessnock) to build a complex further out, after all local options were considered unsuitable. The problem that I saw, was that they wanted a complex way bigger than what was really necessary. Venues were considered on the basis that the complex would run V8 supercars, have a seperate drag strip, etc, etc. Wtf do we need two drag strips 1hr drive apart from eachother? To show that the council was perhaps a little misguided, the concept of a V8 supercar race held on a street circuit in Wyong industrial park was considered when the land options were exhausted......street race, say what - wouldn't that defeat the purpose of the exercise?

For driver training, small club events, etc, we could make do with a big "carpark" i.e. skidpan. This would go a long way to getting some hooning off the streets. Costs would be exponentially smaller & there would be fewer noise concerns (noise limit or restricted to registered cars only) - which was part of the problem encountered with the original proposal. I'm not blaming the council, good on them for trying. They acted on the responses to the questionnare they put out to the public, which apparently had a significant number of responses, plus some key profile figures getting behind the concept. Maybe we (collectively - the public) asked for too much....and as a result will get nothing.

As far as I've heard, there has been no follow up work to see what scale venue could possibly be built on the proposed land sites. Which I find disappointing, because it makes me consider this exercise was about publicity & tourism for Wyong holding major racing events, rather than actively doing something positive for the community on a smaller scale.

I must stress though - I was/am not directly involved in this project & am just a member of the public with my ear to the ground.