Handbrake cables - T series Vs S series?

[blair]

Ahoy there.
Just recently got my T series DRUM all bolted up.

Last two things to do are bleed brakes and adjust handbrake STOPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP! the handbrake cables are epic long?

I was led to believe that this setup was working fine in a ke70 before i bought it, but cant see HOW!

Solutions?

Car - AE86 ADM

motor - 4ag

use - Dori

problem - T series DRUM handbrake cables too long

occurs/started when - i put the T series DRUM in

personal situation - Always poor

cheers guys

[timbo]

how much longer are you talking about? as in are they stretched or just look like the wrong ones?

[blair]

I can tighten it all the way, and pull the hb lever to vertical and its still not grabbing at all :(

if they are stretched (or even can stretch) that much then i am pissed off that it wasn't mentioned when sold to me!

but i honestly thing they are just wayy to long. to put u number on it maybe 80mm+?

just to get the stupid questions out of the way... the brake system doesnt have to be bled for the hand brake to work yeh? because the hb is PHYSICAL only?

this is frustrating :(

[bigm]

Possibly they are designed to go around/through a pulley/guide somewhere in the system to take up some of the slack?

[blair]

I've got it running through all the same spots as the S series ones did :(

[timbo]

yeah sounds strange being 80mm longer... i don't think they would stretch that much, so it seems that they are the wrong type of cable. not sure about the bleeding part but doubt it very much from personal experience with no brakes and getting it down to the mechanics the handbrake was godlike.

[Cerby86]

use the s series cable. problem solvered

[blair]

It solves my immediate problem yes,

but doesn't solve the actual issue: are T series cables longer than S series, or did i get JIBBED (for others that may or may not snag the same issue)

its not the funnest job to "just use the s series cable" once ive laboured for half a day putting it all in to find out its wrong.

[ke_70]

someones not lovin lift atm lol

what about borgy to ra60 t series? if anyone know?

[Cerby86]

i've done two t series swaps, one into an ae86 a few years back and another into a ae71 a month or two ago.
I can't remember for certain but im pretty sure i left the s series cables in when i did the ae86, and im 100% certain i kept the original borgy cables in the ae71, though they were only 2 or 3 mm from being too short.

[H8CHIR6KU]

yeah t series cables are longer. and they route differently than s series cables do, which is why you are having issues.

its a bit tricky to explain but im sure someone else can

there have been plenty of threads about this. im sure you can find something

[cbjaust]

According to the pages on ToyoDIY the handbrake cables for the T-Series Drum setup (http://www.toyodiy.com/parts/p_J_1983_TOYOTA_COROLLA+LEVIN_AE86-ECMQF_4601.html) are the same part no. as the cables for the S-series setup (http://www.toyodiy.com/parts/p_E_198311_TOYOTA_COROLLA_AE86R-ECMXCQ_4601.html).

Cheers

[Cerby86]

you shouldn't need to do too much to swap the cables, just pull the wheels off, pull the drums off, undo the two cable clips, then its just two or three bolts under the car and one at the handbrake, nothing compared to doing the whole diff :P

[H8CHIR6KU]

According to the pages on ToyoDIY the handbrake cables for the T-Series Drum setup (http://www.toyodiy.com/parts/p_J_1983_TOYOTA_COROLLA+LEVIN_AE86-ECMQF_4601.html) are the same part no. as the cables for the S-series setup (http://www.toyodiy.com/parts/p_E_198311_TOYOTA_COROLLA_AE86R-ECMXCQ_4601.html).

Cheers

i have had t series drums with s series cables and they were so short the handbrake bearly moved.

they worked pretty epicly tho. the guy that set it up had to shve the drum shoes down to fit inside the drums because the cable was so tight it would pull them on

so i dont think they are the same

[blair]

So, how are the cables routed differently? are they mounted/run through different spots on JDM hachi's?

Were you're cables to short becuase you ran them through the t series points?

i.e. can i just swap em and she's a goer? cause if it doesnt work im going to fucking bin it!

[stx-16]

bin it at my house

[blair]

PROBLEM SOLVERED

Used some unmolested S series cables thanks to marvvv


need to get the lips taken off the drums, then i can slap the shoes right up tight :)

[timbo]

fug yeah kund! glad you got it sorted. offtopic but what is the free height on your rear springs?

[blair]

190mm man.

Gonna get some more made up 175mm i reckon :P :P

[timbo]

holy flurking shnite! i think i might purchase some 190mm's with the tax when it comes as i quite like your ride height as it is!

[blair]

Yeh just remember they are 7kg's, so if your getting a softer spring rate you have to increase the length for the same height..

To work it out you would literally need to find how much weight sits on the springs and how much droop there will be etc etc

If/when i get new springs, you can haz mine cheap lol

[timbo]

7's may be a bit too stiff! but let me know haha