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FAST EDDIE
5th July 2010, 09:55 PM
ive put them up agains eachother and they look the same are there any differences??

Sam-Q
5th July 2010, 10:14 PM
subtle but yes very different in function, do not swap!

FAST EDDIE
5th July 2010, 10:36 PM
thats whack i got a spare 16v trd gasket, oh well have to get a new cometic i guess

Sam-Q
5th July 2010, 11:07 PM
16V trd gaskets sell easy enough. Just order another trd one for a 20V through Green line

FAST EDDIE
5th July 2010, 11:38 PM
my engine builder uses cometics so thats the way ill go cheers!!!

H8CHIR6KU
6th July 2010, 12:56 AM
you can also get a new trd 2v one thru toyota easy enough

Jonny Rochester
7th July 2010, 10:50 PM
TRD prices thru Toyota Australia are ridiculous, (meaning they are high!),

H8CHIR6KU
7th July 2010, 11:16 PM
i didnt think 115+ was too bad for a metal headgasket

blair
8th July 2010, 02:02 PM
i payed 100 each from japland?

and i'm using a 16v gasket for a 20v block and 16v head...

Sam -> have you seen any REAL WORLD problems from using the wrong one?

redsprinter
8th July 2010, 04:41 PM
stupid question ... but arent all 4ag blocks the same, hence why they are interchangeable .. ???

Sam-Q
8th July 2010, 06:25 PM
i payed 100 each from japland?

and i'm using a 16v gasket for a 20v block and 16v head...

Sam -> have you seen any REAL WORLD problems from using the wrong one?

nup nothin, unless you have have a way for me to measure the temperature around the coolant jackets inside the head cavity then I can show hard numbers, it's a pretty simple theory though why it's a bad idea, see below.


redsprinter: this is exactly what I had wondered about for a long time. However the difference is that the water on all 4a engines comes from the block at the front but then depending on which head you get the water goes different ways. On a 4age 16V the water outlet in the head is at the front so the gasket has less/smaller water hole oppenings at that end and some bigger holes at the back. The oppersite is true for 20V/4afe/7afe gaskets. This stagered arangement allows for even water flow and even cooling. By fitting a 20V gasket to a 16V your encouraging the water to come into the block, straight up and out of the head without flowing around the block as much. Sure the different wouldn't be big but it's a chance I wouldn't want to take.

FAST EDDIE
8th July 2010, 07:45 PM
ive held em up together and the one i pulle dout adn the trd one i have are identical?

Slimer86
9th July 2010, 10:20 PM
ive held em up together and the one i pulle dout adn the trd one i have are identical?

Nope, nothing the TRD gaskets are similar but very different in the cooling jacket paths.
With either an oil return or coolant hole in the 20v gasket near the 1st or 4th cylinder in open air when overlain above a TRD 16v gasket
There also appears to be greater coolant direction around the perimeter of the cylinder holes cyl. 1 or 4.

FAST EDDIE
10th July 2010, 03:56 AM
well spoke to engine builder tonight and he says itl work ill tell you how it goes!!

Sam-Q
10th July 2010, 09:00 PM
I agree with Lucifier I had both in my hand 2 weeks ago and noted the difference. Sounds like you have a 16V gasket.

So Eddie on what basis did he make that choice? did he compare the two gaskets and decide it was identical?

FAST EDDIE
11th July 2010, 10:07 AM
on a nother note i saw u have new front water outlets sam i want one of those!!!

Sam-Q
11th July 2010, 10:41 AM
well you will have to contact me, I actually have 3 and only advertise one