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capatown
22nd December 2010, 01:14 PM
Hey guys,

Sorry if this has been covered before......

starter motor crapped out today, just wondering what other starters I could use.

Motor - 4age smallport


I heard any 4a starter will fit?

Hopefully I havent striped the fly wheel, it was making an awesome grinding sound.

PHA786
22nd December 2010, 02:19 PM
Sounds nasty. I'm keen to know this too. I thought they would all work but what do I know.

timbo
22nd December 2010, 02:28 PM
one word, NEW.

mine went about a month ago. Go and see a bloke at Auto Electrics Australia over at:

16 Hampshire St
Archerfield 4108
3277 4566

Brand new Denso reduction starter from a 22re for $190 with warranty. The bloke is a celica nut and runs the same setup. He actually changed the front housing on the new one to my old one as the angle of the starter would foul on the exhaust.

Has more than enough torque to turn my motor over, sounds like a truck starting!

Skylar
22nd December 2010, 04:36 PM
Small port are reduction starter. Bigport are direct drive. They all swap over but the reduction starter sorta takes up more space and outputs more torque, not that you need to worry about this on a little 4A. All the direct drive ones are 0.8/0.9/1.0kw units and can be used on swapped with any other direct drive unit as long as you swap the nose over.

The reduction starters are a little different but as long as you get one off a similar sorta car(NOT a diesel corolla) they should work. I'd just get one new or have the old one rebuilt for 150 or so.

capatown
22nd December 2010, 06:19 PM
Thnx for the info guys.

Def will be putting a new one in.

pen15
24th December 2010, 08:35 AM
what are the 20v starters are they gear reduction?

pen15
24th December 2010, 01:36 PM
ok so 20v dosnt fit either does 22re so people dont atempt it i just did im going for a smallport one now

timbo
24th December 2010, 10:43 PM
22re fits, you need to change the front housing that bolts to the bell housing. i attempted it and won.

pen15
25th December 2010, 09:30 AM
do u have pics of how this was done because i stripped my starter and the new 22r and there is no way it was going to work

timbo
26th December 2010, 01:24 AM
get pics for you tomorrow/today, when the sun is up.

pen15
26th December 2010, 04:21 PM
i just got myself a smallport starter for my 7age conversion with high comp (12.37-1 ratio) and the smallport starter turns it over very nicley again 22r does not fit or let me say it does not fit if you have stock ae86 jdm rwd headers im not sure if it fits if there is more room but the smallport starter is a direct bolt on

the smallport starter may be able to accept parts from the 22r starter motor but i didnt bother i just used a stock smallport starter motor

cheers
mat