Shed some light on this rear suspension/cradle setup?

[86JAP]

Cant say i remember the rear end of my 86 looking like this thing wats the go??

http://dropped.com.ua/uploads/images/b_12871583971183.jpg

http://dropped.com.ua/uploads/images/b_12871583852458.jpg

[timbo]

doesn't look quite right, whatever it is.

[86JAP]

no, but the v8 in the front is cool, hopefully its a 1UZ..

[lolwat]

no, but the v8 in the front is cool, hopefully its a 1UZ..
why there are several V8's i would put in before 1UZ jsut cause its toyota im guessing???


looks like a S13 rear end, yea i would say s13/s14/s15 rear cradle

[70XIN]

the angle on those arms is stupid hahaha. interesting nonetheless

[lolwat]

the angle on those arms is stupid hahaha. interesting nonetheless
yea seems stupid do all that work, why wouldnt you mount the cradle higher or soemthing

[86JAP]

IRS + LOW = CAMBER lol

[lolwat]

irs + low = camber lol

irs+low+adjustable upper arms = adjustable camber =D



althought that cradle being so low there must be a reason, as nigel spaces(modifies) his to make them sit lower)

[Jacobxxx]

doesnt look like it has a diff centre?

[86JAP]

althought that cradle being so low there must be a reason, as nigel spaces(modifies) his to make them sit lower)


not sure these were the only 2 pics i could find and i needed to be a member of a russian drift site to check out the build thread...

[lolwat]

doesnt look like it has a diff centre?
doesnt the shafts are hanging down

[elda_bob]

That is Nissan.
I'd say s13 just from the rear mount for the diff centre

[lolwat]

non-hicas cradle

[matt99]

doesnt look like it has a diff centre?

Probably hits the ground with a center. Ha.



althought that cradle being so low there must be a reason, as nigel spaces(modifies) his to make them sit lower)

Other way around. He raised his cradle up into the car and raised the strut towers also to retain correct geometry whilst still having a slammed car.

It is a S13 non-hicas cradle by the looks of it, but with those arms on those angles, its going to be of no great benefit. Its been done before, even here in Australia, anyone else remember "carbon-ae86"?

[elda_bob]

The geometry isn't too bad.
Not ideal but would still work pretty well

[matt99]

You ever owned a S13? Look at the rear camber arms man, you can only just see them but thats some BIG angle.

[elda_bob]

I own a s13
My angles are worse then that.
With descent brand parts that is very easily fixed

[lolwat]

so your S13 pretty much drags along the ground


cheers matt, thought it seemed strange (must of mis read or someshit)

[elda_bob]

Yes

[fantapants]

I own a s13
My angles are worse then that.
With descent brand parts that is very easily fixed


or he could have simply installed it properly and done a decent fucking job of it.

and if your arms are like that, and your car is that low, it handles like shit. looks cool, no doubt, but handles like shit.

[matt99]

So you think your radial arc of your suspension and toe movements are magically fixed at that height just because you have some adjustable arms?

Yeah lolwat, the old Nigel is a pretty switched on puppy.

[elda_bob]

No i didnt say its fixed.
I said its not ideal but functions fine

[lolwat]

Yeah lolwat, the old Nigel is a pretty switched on puppy.

oath, very smart


elda_bob (http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/member.php/4920-elda_bob) jsut give up now man

[Vance]

on the rear of my fc3s im reducing the camber in 2 ways, adjustable rod which moves my the rear end up reducing camber, and adjustable upper control arm bushes which can reduce or give more cambe

id defs say datsun. look gay. poser setup or possibly setup like that for shits and giggles just for pics

[Sam-Q]

moved to tech section.

Very much looks like someone tried in vain to make irs fit without any chopping. I am no expert but I would be putting tabs on that won't handle that good

[Skylar]

He raised his cradle up into the car and raised the strut towers also to retain correct geometry whilst still having a slammed car.


So, I'm way out of the loop here, did he cut upward into factory metal to actually lift the subframe through the floor or you talking about subframe riser solid bushings? because those things give you like 10-15mm and when the car's (nigel's) that low, the roll centre's way in the ground anyway that it don't make that much of a difference. That's not what I would call retaining correct geometry.

but hey, if he cut metal and moved the subframe up, cool. Been waiting for someone to do that.

[matt99]

He cut the cradle, as in, cut sections out and bought the whole cradle up towards its own mounts, also sliced the top off the curved section just above the diff center. The top of the strut towers had extra tube added to them to get the coilovers to sit higher as well.

Waiting for someone to do it? He did it about two years ago I think.

[kaibeecee]

as cool as it is, what nigel did has been done many, many times before.

i'd say the above conversion they've added the RHS or structural box sections off the rail and not cut any floorpan out.

there is better and worse ways to do it.

[marvis]

the angle on those arms is stupid hahaha. interesting nonetheless

Looks like the cradle is mounted really low.. fails hard.. Look how low the car is, then look how low the diff/cradle is.

[marvis]

so your S13 pretty much drags along the ground

like 20mm sump/swaybar/rails.

[slydar]

that 86 is serious roll center fail.