Noob Q

[Catdaddy]

Sup guys, relatively new member here.

So like, its about 6 months until i get my P's and i am strongly considering buying an '86. The only thing that is bothering me, is if i get one, I'd want to do a 4age conversion. Now i have researched about the swap and have heard it's not that hard, but i'm just wondering if someone can give me an overview about the swap, and how much hassle it really is. Also, can someone let me know how hard the fuel pump is to do? I've heard you can use one from a VL commodore, with slight modifications, true? Any Info would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers!!

[lolwat]

search function, its been done on here 400000 times, most of it is all bolt in shit

[Stain]

Wait... Atherton? as in Atherton Tablelands?

[Catdaddy]

Hahaha yeah man, atherton tablelands alright... You from up here?

[Stain]

Hahaha. How can you live in Atherton and not HEAR my 86...

[7shades]

This will not end well

[Stain]

Just means there's someone else I can sell my old shit too.

[Catdaddy]

Wait, You're the guy that owns the 86' near herberton road right? Hahaha and the lexus that tows it?

[Stain]

see, i knew it was too hard to believe that you wouldn't have seen me around.

[Catdaddy]

Hahaha yeah man, Nice car Btw!! Feel like takin' me for a spin in it?? ;)

[7shades]

Someone else the Turtle will own at mako :)

[Stain]

Yeah I don't mind.

[Catdaddy]

Mad :D we'll see 7shades ;)

[Stain]

But going back to your original question. You can't convert to a 4AGE while on your P's.
Putting a 4AGE into a ADM AE86 requires a modplate. Don't think you'll be able to get away with it cos you in the sticks, cos I didn't.

So you've got three choices in front of you:
1) Buy a JDM AE86 that already has a 4AGE
2) Buy a ADM and spend the next few years modding everything but the engine until you're on your Opens.
3) Buy a ADM and do the conversion, but don't register it, just use it for racing

[Catdaddy]

Really? I thought that conversions were legal when they are the same displacement? D:

[lolwat]

no as its a performance inhancing mod

[Stain]

It's legal. Just not for anyone on their P's to drive.
But yeah, to register a Australian AE86 with a 4AGE it needs a modplate for the engine conversion.

[Catdaddy]

So i couldn't just tell them my old engine blew? Or make up some bs?

[Catdaddy]

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/showthread.php/19024-Registering-an-adm-ae86-with-a-4age-in-vic?highlight=Ae86+4age+conversion

The same rules wouldn't apply for QLD would it?

[Stain]

you will fail a road worthy with a 4age and no mod plate

[Catdaddy]

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[lolwat]

thought you QLD'er only had to get rego checks when you sell it?

[Cerby86]

by two! A bog stock one and a modified one, paint them the same colour. drive the fun one till your booked, take the boring one into the inspection station and tell the inspector you can't for the life of you work out why they booked you. go back home put the plates back on the fun one. profit!!!
Also this way you have something to drive when your fun one is broken!

[Stain]

Yeah. I expected to be able to sneak it thru. They caught it.
Just buy a Import. You'll be getting a better car straight up.

[7shades]

Told you, turtle ownage. Nyeerrrrrr :D

[Stain]

And I told you, I'm not scared of your Tercel.

[7shades]

You should be. It'll haunt your sleep.

Just like the clowns.

CLOWNS

[Catdaddy]

So there is no legal way around it? :/

[Stain]

http://blogs.crikey.com.au/northern/files/2010/12/BarredOwl-mouse.jpg

[7shades]

Gaaaaaaah

[Stain]

No. No legal way to register an Australian delivered AE86 with a 4AGE conversion in your name while you're on your P's.

[7shades]

Just for that, I torture your Miku.

http://www.ecchi.me/images/hentai--ballgag--bondage--gag--hatsune-miku--rope--shibari--vocaloid.jpg

[Stain]

damn. i thought i hid those photos

[Catdaddy]

That makes me want to cry D:

[Stain]

dont worry, im sure she is enjoying it

[Hachi_Tom]

my 86 is rego'd with a 4age in my name on my red p's, there is nothing wrong with it as there was the option from factory to have a 4age in there. thus allowing you to have a 4age legally.

same as j's silvia's coming out with ca autos (or whatever) and your allowed to have sr de manuals on your p's as it was a option from factory.

dot is stupid but not stupid enough to let someone drive a jdm 86 standard and then an adm 86 with all jdm bits and your not allowed to drive it..



edit: first statement is only correct if you have equiv or bigger brakes and all that stuff to handle the 4age.

[Stain]

^^ this is not true. you got lucky and snuck it thru.

the problem is the ae86 never had a 4age factory option in Australia. yes it did in Japan of course, but never in Australia.
so you cannot legally put one in and call it a engine swap (which u can do without a mod plate)
it needs to go thru the right procedures to be legal. and those procedures mean its illegal for a p-plater to drive.

Theres 2 other points your failing to consider.

In the cities and higher populated areas, its much easier to find a mechanic and dot worker who will turn a blind eye to these things.
Where we are in FNQ, its much much harder. TruenoCoupe on here who also lives in Cairns got a RWC for his car in Brisbane - after one look at it here they tore it up.

And a JDM car with a 4AGE is "Factory" meaning unmodified. Stock.
A ADM car with a 4AGE is modded. Thats the issue, its not that they are both the same car with the same engine... one is stock, one is not.


edit: I got my mod-plate for my 4AGE without the need to upgrade the front brakes. Its up to the discretion of the engineer doing it.

[Sam-Q]

this thread has nothing new, all the information is already here in other thread so I am going to lock this. If someone has an issue please send me a polite message