Brighter Headlights

[Monk]

Hey .. im after some brighter head lights..
im guessing all i can do is buy better bulbs, however i heard putting brighter bulbs in can melt the electrics

true?

[Shiri]

Changing the globes will do nothing on aus-spec lights... theres a cap which restricts the distance you can see...

[SPEEDCORE]

True the distance is not increased but the amount of light can be greatly increased via bulbs.

I have some Phillips ones, I am sure they where the blue vision. They ARE legal, and don't let the name misguide you..... the bulbs have a blue tinge to the glass but the light that is thrown is all white and looking into them it is white as well.

They made a very big difference in the 86 that's for sure.

If you guys like I can try to take a pic at night for you..... let me know.

[Nut_Drifter]

I have changed the whole head light for my 86 to different one...I dunno what these call....but with these kind of light plus I installed a HID kit into it....It's alot brighter then before


Here is the pic

[rxbenny]

the cap is a glare filter isnt it?

i have 2 people telling me different things
1 sez jap lights have glare cdap thing
1 sez aus lights have glare thing


i have both one with one without i think both are aus spec.
cannot really tell difference in brightness just the one without cap has a funny tinge to it

just get new light housings and hid it will be cool. my question is which has the better reflector design cos that will be the deciding factor for me.

Hey nut drifter like what you have done but i prefer to stick to lights of the same shape

[Shiri]

just get hids

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/8/4/3/88366.jpg

Japanese Headlights have no cap, have great visibilty and further distance

ADM headlights are useless once u've got jdm ones

[Monk]

nah too expensive

[ae71neo]

Originally posted by SPEEDCORE@Jan 8 2006, 05:43 PM
True the distance is not increased but the amount of light can be greatly increased via bulbs.

I have some Phillips ones, I am sure they where the blue vision. They ARE legal, and don't let the name misguide you..... the bulbs have a blue tinge to the glass but the light that is thrown is all white and looking into them it is white as well.

They made a very big difference in the 86 that's for sure.

If you guys like I can try to take a pic at night for you..... let me know.
Pics would be good as i want to upgrade my bulbs, but dont know what to go for..

[OBE353]

i think mine has the phillips blue vision globes? theywere in the car when i got it.. but they work pretty well, monk u seen mine they r fairly bright http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/cool.gif

[poh_86]

Originally posted by SPEEDCORE@Jan 8 2006, 05:43 PM
True the distance is not increased but the amount of light can be greatly increased via bulbs.

I have some Phillips ones, I am sure they where the blue vision. They ARE legal, and don't let the name misguide you..... the bulbs have a blue tinge to the glass but the light that is thrown is all white and looking into them it is white as well.

They made a very big difference in the 86 that's for sure.

If you guys like I can try to take a pic at night for you..... let me know.
are you sure dude?
ive got blue visions on mine and it says on fine print on the packaging "rally usage only"

but i think the diamond vision or the vision plus work well or maybe bjunion bulbs from visionr work well

personally i think bluevision in a hachi will look crap let alone be crap, u cant see jack in the rain let alone with the reflector

[upgarage]

i bought some narva plus 40's
noticable improvement

[Monster]

I used the next wattage up (100/90) with a huge notacable gain. Just dont leave your high beams on for too long while stationary. But I never had any problems with wire melting.

[sic86]

Phillips have a few choice's of globes.
- Vision Plus
- Blue Vision
- GP50 (new)
- Diamon & Crystal (but aren't legal and are only at for that wank factor look)
Vision Plus would be the best for the Hachi as it give's up a better distance. Blue Vision will give a blue light but will only go the same distance as the original in the car. A blue light will actually show up road sign's etc. better. GP50, their new one is the same as Vision Plus but actually has a blue cap on the end so it give's up a blue looking light. (The bulb itself isn't blue like the Blue vision so it doesn't show up road sign's etc. better) Crystal and Diamond Vision are just a very blue light. Make's the light even shitter but are illegal becuase the bulbs don't last long which is why they don't pass ADR

Cheers

[poh_86]

crystal and diamond vision emit white doesnt it??
and the blue vision emits tinges of blue

have you checked the display case at auto barn??

blue vision is the top line costs abt $160 where as diamond cost $100

i cant remember what order it was but blue was higher than diamond
it would make more sense if BLUEvision emitted blue light i think thats rated 5200k

i COULD be wrong but im pretty sure im right

[Monk]

Well thanks for everyones input.
but judging form the first post i have no hope as i have aus spec lights.

[Monk]

Originally posted by 20v Monster@Jan 9 2006, 04:32 AM
I used the next wattage up (100/90) with a huge notacable gain. Just dont leave your high beams on for too long while stationary. But I never had any problems with wire melting.
whta happends if i leave my hi beam on?

[poh_86]

this is with the phillips blue vision in my old hachi

costed about 60 bucks but it did make a difference

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/8/4/3/88461.jpg

[crazy86]

Originally posted by Monk+Jan 9 2006, 03:16 PM-->
<!--QuoteBegin-20v Monster@Jan 9 2006, 04:32 AM
I used the next wattage up (100/90) with a huge notacable gain. Just dont leave your high beams on for too long while stationary. But I never had any problems with wire melting.
whta happends if i leave my hi beam on? [/b]
my guess is, your battery will go flat http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

[sic86]

Originally posted by poh_86@Jan 9 2006, 12:43 PM
crystal and diamond vision emit white doesnt it??
and the blue vision emits tinges of blue

have you checked the display case at auto barn??

blue vision is the top line costs abt $160 where as diamond cost $100

i cant remember what order it was but blue was higher than diamond
it would make more sense if BLUEvision emitted blue light i think thats rated 5200k

i COULD be wrong but im pretty sure im right
Blue Vision is $49.99 for two bulbs from Memory. Diamond is about $79.99

Cheers

[poh_86]

i just checked my box crap it was diamond vision, sorry alan about that

but yeh i ended up paying 120 for mine http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/blink.gif
wasnt a rort but i remember other places asking +150

[mattysshop]

if you don't want to fry your wiring.. use a 4 pin realy setup.. run a nice size 30A wire from your battery to the relay etc use the current wire as the switching wire, and chuck in some 100/110 Night vision Narva bulbs, i bought them from supercheap for $29 with a few realays and wires etc.. all up cost around $35 with heaps of wire etc left over, i did this to my old TG gemmie, and MT cootha was a whole lot different!! the bulbs made a massive difference..

[c2888]

The cap on the aus lights is a reflector, it reflects light back into the main reflector, just like current rav4s and many other new cars. This is not causing the shitty output, it's just a old design and you're pretty much stuck with shitty lights. The main reflector is probably corroded or tanished, or like my old lights the adjusters were broken and shining down 2 metres beyond the bumper.

You can upgrade to the later levin lights, these are a bit better, but nothing to write home about. I have good bulbs and a piaa relay wiring kit, so they are running at optimum, but a new cars headlights still crap all over it.

You can run 100 watt globes, just watch you don't melt the housings.

If you really want to throw some light, i suggest getting some decent driving lights. Not the $30 specials either. A good brand, hella, piaa, lightforce, cibie.

and eat more carrots!

dan

[mattysshop]

this is my setup at the moment.. i'm going to be rewiring them shortly (with relays etc) to make use of 100/110w crystal blue ones.. and i have wired my dual filament parkers to stay on.. now the parkers light up 90deg from the front of my car!! there awsome.. driving alone through the suburbs they light right up to ppls front doors! really good for that extra few meters veiwing when travelling up and down Mt Akina.. http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

Matty

[Monk]

Matty ill be interested in coping your setup if i could..
right now in the rain i see better with no lights. i honestly can not see shit with my current light setup

[.wolfwood]

ahh monk i find the same thing. the lights jsut make it worse. its funny how that works.

hmm i want to do i hole ight upgrade thing but its semms like it would be expensive

poo...

[mattysshop]

Originally posted by Monk@Jan 20 2006, 05:17 PM
Matty ill be interested in coping your setup if i could..
right now in the rain i see better with no lights. i honestly can not see shit with my current light setup
when i rewire that lights i'll post up a guide in the tech section.. everything needed, how too etc etc.. with heaps of pics http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/smile.gif i go to NZ next week though, so it will have to be after that 3-4 weeks

[Tylthidras]

Awesome lights mattyshop. My lights are so dull even placing those blue globes in that it feels like im using lights out of an old grandmas living room dimed down.

[BouNCE-86]

The phillips range are awesome........

My mate has some cheap jap blue vision bulbs, you can see about 10m in front of you at high beam, real crap! (the standard bulbs are better)......http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

I put Phillips Blue Vision in my girlfriends AE92, and the difference is incredible. Double the distance, and a much whiter light...... Just a plug & play really, took about 2 minutes to change over.....On low beam, you get everyone high beaming you........! http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/biggrin.gif

The Phillips Diamond & Crystal vision are illegal, and are so bright that it is just crazy to have them in while driving around town. You will blind everyone on low beam..........

Got the Phillips Blue Vision on special for $50.00 including parkers. Well worth it!........... IMO:

[mattysshop]

it is illegal to use those parkers in some cars though... they look too blue.. i have noticed that if you change your light bulbs the parkers look mega dull and gay.. must must must upgrade to slightly higher wattage, and get a blue laundary marker and colour the bulb blue all the way round.. it should give it a nice even white apperance http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/smile.gif

but yeh.. i've got the phillips Blue vision in mine.. i couldn't use the parkers.. as my parkers use bay 15 type stop light dual filament bulbs.. both filaments on the extra light is awsome!

[Monk]

matty where the tut man?
i need it asap cuz drifting .. i mean driving with no lights is no fun.

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[exquisit]

hey any updates of the tut??
thanks

^.^

[verm69]

I'm gussing by 'tut' you mean tute???

as in tutorial??

[Monk]

no..
he means 'tut' as in tutorial..
not 'tute' as in tutorial..


DICKHEAD!!

bwhahahha http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/biggrin.gif


ps- obe wrote that not me..

[exquisit]

any update yet??

[exquisit]

haha thanks for all your help mate
^.^

[Bustin_86]

Nice write up Blinky.

Seems liek you know your shit http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

[li21]

Can anyone tell me what size globes I should be getting to fit an 83 AE86 (ADM)?
I dont ahve a manual so its a bit hard.. http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/smile.gif I want to get these blue vision ones mentioned.

cheers.

[mattysshop]

the same size you pull out.. 55/60 H4's... supercheap have xenon blue on sale now for $24.99!

[li21]

the same size you pull out.. 55/60 H4's... supercheap have xenon blue on sale now for $24.99![/b]

Are they decent ones ? Ive tried some no brand korean ones before which have a real short beam.. bright tho.. just not intense...

[li21]

I bought some Philips BLUE VISION for $60 at AutoBarn yesterday.

No difference at all from my current lights.. In fact they are slightly worse...
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/sad.gif

No light output at all unless its pitch black. Thank god for high beams and the street lighting.

[Dxaqta]

just buy hid kit

[li21]

i'm just disappointed...
I spent $60 on Philips Bluevision and they dont do anything .. not any better than what i have already.
and it doesnt look blue or white.. just yellow

[li21]

Hey guys , i know this is digging up an old thread..

but is there any guides on the wiring upgrade for headlights?

cheers

[ke70dave]

hey mate, all the "Wiring upgrade" is, is a relay put inline with the headlights. straight from the battery, and using the original wiring as the "trigger"

do you know how to use a relay?, if not i can draw up a diagram if you like, but wont be till later tonight (work soon).

[yoshimitsu9]

speaking of using phillips bulbs, I'm running the crystal visions and they are complete rubbish. bought them 6 months ago for $100 and complete waste of money

[rthy]

I love my HID's

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/2/5/2/37604.jpg

this pic is with one side upgraded, spot the difference

however the glare is nasty and if I could go back in time I would of bought the warmer 5000K globes instead of these 6500K globes

[shorty]

has anybody on here had the globes off ebay were the bulb is blue and ACTUALLY gives off a blue light?

i had them in a ke and the difference was amazing... cost me all of $25 i think? better vision and gave of a slight bit of blue light whilst night driving

i spent $60 on those phillips blue visions and the the quality was just as good but only gave of white light and was more expensive

[kazman]

Some facts about Halogen Globes.

1. The higher the wattage the better the light output. Myth: A blue bulb of 60W does not project further than 60W yellow globe (this is an optical illusion).
2. Higher the wattage the higher the heat. The output of heat is proportional to the wattage. The higher the heat, the more prone the bulb filament is to snapping. As heat rises, the metal filament becomes softer and vibrations from the road will lead to the failure of the filament.
3. Tinted bulbs look better aesthetically but performance wise, tinting retards the lumen (light power). It simply filters out yellow from the light to make it more blue or white.
4. Xenon gas charged bulb, reduces the temperature of the air inside the bulb. However if the bulb is tinted, the effects of the tint conducting heat far outweighs any gains made from charged gas.
5. 100/90 watt bulbs, generate a lot of heat. They can cause auto-electrical problems if the right relay is not used. In many cases, the excess heat generated from them can cause glass headlights to shatter when water is suddenly splashed on the surface. High temperature also causes sealed headlights to lose their seals. When the light is cooled, there is now a vacuum inside and water particles in air can now accumulate inside your headlight. The water then shatters your globes as it causes different parts of the globe (glass or quarts) to expand and constrict at different thermal conductivities.

In summary, blue bulbs simply look better. I have tested countless number of bulbs to measure their lumens and projections and none have broken the 5 facts I have listed (this includes Philips). The Philips bulbs for the record are made in one of three factories in Korea. On occasions a 60W blue globe was found to be better performing than the yellow globe, it was verified that the globe was actually higher wattage than stated. If you are wanting brighter light there is only two ways:

1. Increase wattage (use relays and run 100/90). Make sure you don't allow water to ingress into the headlights and make sure you don't splash water onto your headlights suddenly after a long period of long light usage. Expect them to wear out quicker.
2. Convert to HID. A 35W HID system will produce 3 times the brightness and project 2-4 times further down the road. Expect to get a lot of F>$% U's from other drivers.

[kazman]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jarryd @ May 25 2008, 08:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=536541)</div>
has anybody on here had the globes off ebay were the bulb is blue and ACTUALLY gives off a blue light?

i had them in a ke and the difference was amazing... cost me all of $25 i think? better vision and gave of a slight bit of blue light whilst night driving

i spent $60 on those phillips blue visions and the the quality was just as good but only gave of white light and was more expensive[/b]

That's because they are probably made in the same factory. The Phillips globes are all made in Korea (all components except base).
There have been verified reports of Ebay sellers that are selling the same globes branded as another product.