getto style spring choping for me ae86

[solidc10]

ok i bet somebody has asked this before.....
i have looked and from what i have read is that i can use falcon front spings cut down in the rear and fix hk-tg rear shocks so thay dont drop out......???????

but what do i use in the front ?????
i dont realy want to cut the front ones as the 86's has good heavy duty spring all round just in case i get a defect http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/rant.gif
i no if i put shorter springs in the front im going to have to limit the travel in the front .....

so what do i use????????

might have to get some camber to

[ae71]

correct me if im wrong but it isnt all that nessesary to put short strokes in the front as the spring cant realy go far... know a few people who have just stocko shocks and lower/cut springs and they havnt had any dramas.

[Bustin_86]

cutties all around are fine, jsut be carefull when you jack the fucker up. Also, only do this if the car is in rego http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

New shocks, or short strokes, are not necessary but will only pay dividens in handling!

Justin

[Dems]

A good tip for the front cut springs is to wack a couple of cable ties around the bottom of the spring. There should be a hole in the spring perch. Will help stop the spring from coming loose.
<3 cable ties

[darkon]

great minds think alike dems cuz i was just about to do that to my springs....BUT... iv been told that the zip ties no matter how many i lose would be a dodgey idea for something like suspension so im going to bend a couple of strips of aluminium or something and fasten them around the bottom coil like zip ties cept made of thicker strips of aluminium:) altho unless i watch too much dukes of hazard one day n decide that my car is the next general lee i dont think it'll be all that neccessary

[bahnugget]

my car is bullshit low on cut stocko springs http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

mostly cause i wanted to see what it'd be like, but yeah i used zipties to hold them in front and rear, just drilled lil holes in the spring seat, ziptied the bastards in, all good.

imo its not THAT dodgy to use zipties to hold springs in (considering ur cutting springs here..) cause really the only thing they're doing is holding the spring, its not like theres any weight or anything on them

edit: spelling is gay.

[darkon]

oh good stuff thats great. now i can just drill n zip instead of having to fuck around wit aluminium http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/biggrin.gif yay!

[drewx]

i would not recommend cutting your springs.
1 - it is illegal (by law you cannot cut, modify, or weld any suspension component without a mod plate)
2 - the heat generated by cutting with a grinder will change your spring rate (which cannot be controlled)

i'd recommend just getting some lowered springs

this is just advice, not saying you have to follow it, just something to think about

[bahnugget]

its not so much the heat which alters the spring rate, its the taking a coil out of the spring part... the heat is very localised.

plus im pretty sure 1. doesnt bother many people, considering those who have cut falcon springs, or welded/locked diffs, or other similar things

[mrmatt]

Guess my Suspention http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

[jaqule]

If you want a bit of camber use Corona XT130 control arms. They fit perfectly : )

[Bensonius]

umm cut falcon springs..trd blues(super short), or go greens if you want it to be legal. My mates hachi is running this setup and it is about 90mm off the ground...if you are worried about heating the spring (which you shouldnt), then use a hacksaw!!!! Fronts just convert to coilovers...

[Bensonius]

ohh if you do this properly then you should wind up with about 6-6.5kg in the rear which means that cut front springs (which are about 1kg/mm to start with) then you wouldnt have a car that handles at all...it would just be stupid. Do it properly and get some custom king springs (8kg/mm) for about 140 for a pair

[darkon]

just say i cut 1 coil outta ma standard springs the whole way round how u think that'd work out? got an estimation on the spring rate?

[flamingheads]

Lower springs + standard shocks = worse handling doesnt it?

[Vance]

^^ on that note, my rally basher ke70 has massively cut springs (bumpstop action at the rear http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif) and stock shockers which are probably fucked.

now i know we have all heard about the old engine oil in the shockers 'mod' but who has done it? did it actually work, like did it stop the bouncing around and actually control the spring a bit better?

[roadsailing]

it should help a bit, on a paddock bomb it will be worth a try, might overheat faster due to the thickness of the oil

normal shock oil is about as runny as water.

and shorten your bump stops, it will improve the handling and comfort dramatically! wood saw does the trick nicely and quickly

[rick q]

where can i get king springs from then? im in brissy.

[Hokey]

solidc10: make sure you use rear falcon springs not front ones as they won't fit http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tup.gif