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jontrueno
21st February 2007, 07:28 PM
is the blue rod in the pic the panhard rod?

cheers http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tup.gif

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dirty_86
21st February 2007, 07:31 PM
sure is

us_ae86
21st February 2007, 07:40 PM
yup! and i have a broken T3 one!!! hahaha

jontrueno
21st February 2007, 08:43 PM
so does it cum adjustable?

if yes, is it to centre the diff?

y do u need it, wen lowering your car?

any help very appreciated.

robbie

Jason
21st February 2007, 08:47 PM
you need it no matter what, its stops lateral motion. When you lower the car its going to shift the diff to one side. So having an ajustable one helps, carnt tell from the pic if yours is or not.


y=you, cum=sperm ect

slide86
21st February 2007, 08:47 PM
when u slam ur 86 to the ground the diff shifts to one side
so to align it properly u would need an adjustable pan hard rod bar.

us_ae86
21st February 2007, 08:49 PM
That particular bar is NOT adjustable. The T3 panhard bar IS. Here's what a little searching on the internets got me. http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/smile.gif
"A Panhard rod or track bar is a component of a car suspension system that provides lateral location of the axle. Originally invented by the Panhard automobile company of France in the early twentieth century, this device has been widely used ever since.

While the purpose of the rear suspension of an automobile is to allow the wheels to move vertically with respect to the body, it is undesirable to allow them to move forward and backwards, or from side to side. It is this latter movement that the Panhard rod is designed to prevent. It is a simple device, consisting of a rigid bar running sideways parallel to the rear axle, connecting one end of the axle to the car body or chassis on the opposite side of the vehicle. The bar is attached on either end with pivots that permit it to swivel upwards and downwards only, so that the axle is in turn allowed to move in the vertical plane only. This does not effectively locate the axle longitudinally, therefore it is usually used in conjunction with trailing arms which locate the axle in the longitudinal direction. This arrangement is not usually used with a leaf spring rear suspension, where the springs themselves supply enough lateral rigidity, but only with coil spring suspensions.

The advantage of the Panhard rod is its simplicity. Its major disadvantage is that the axle must necessarily move in an arc, relative to the body, with the radius equal to the length of the Panhard rod. If the rod is too short, there will be excessive sideways movement between the axle and the body at the ends of the spring travel; therefore the Panhard rod is less desirable on smaller cars than larger. A suspension design that is similar but eliminates the sideways component of the axle's vertical travel is Watt's linkage."

That should answer all of your questions pertaining to the panhard rod.
Good luck understanding it though! http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/2thumbs.gif

jontrueno
21st February 2007, 09:16 PM
hmmm.......still confused.

so when u drop your car then the panhard is to long for your application?

and the diff should move towards the left?

a local wheel alignment guy will know how to adjust?

wats this adjustment called?

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Jason
21st February 2007, 09:31 PM
...

the panhard rod is alwyas static, a wheel alignment guy wont be able to ajust it unless he modifies it. A new white line one is $100

jontrueno
21st February 2007, 09:43 PM
...

the panhard rod is alwyas static, a wheel alignment guy wont be able to ajust it unless he modifies it. A new white line one is $100[/b]
static as in u cant adjust it?

isnt the whiteline rods are adjustable?

johnny_08
21st February 2007, 09:45 PM
quote at the bottom : "therefore the Panhard rod is less desirable on smaller cars than larger"
so then why....................

Jason
21st February 2007, 09:45 PM
yes


why they put them in? i supose its dirt cheap to make them

dr1ft-pig
21st February 2007, 09:49 PM
the rod is mounted to the body of your car... therefore it stays in 1 place
the other end is connected to your dif... which moves up and down....
therefore when the diff moves up n down the diff moves slightly to one side... so then when u lower your car the diff moves to the side.....to fix this u buy an adjustable panhard rod... then... adjust it slightly shorter to move the diff back to where it was....

jontrueno
21st February 2007, 09:56 PM
the rod is mounted to the body of your car... therefore it stays in 1 place
the other end is connected to your dif... which moves up and down....
therefore when the diff moves up n down the diff moves slightly to one side... so then when u lower your car the diff moves to the side.....to fix this u buy an adjustable panhard rod... then... adjust it slightly shorter to move the diff back to where it was....[/b]
i agree coz dats what i think,but what are u adjusting?does it hav a name.camber, toe etc

Jason
21st February 2007, 09:59 PM
it shortens the panhard rod, they normly just have a bolt extending end of some sort.

Dose it really matter what the name is?

jontrueno
21st February 2007, 10:13 PM
^^^^ man i dont want a guy with a shifter turning shit that he dosent know

eg if a wheel alignment guy didnt know toe would u let him touch your car?

thats why i want to know what its called.i dont know about u but i want my diff in the centre

not hangin on one side.

Jason
21st February 2007, 10:18 PM
you diy o.O its real easy to do

jontrueno
21st February 2007, 10:27 PM
lol...............yeh just get a mate stand at the back of the car while you adjust?and ask him is it to much to

the right yet or is it straight.lol.

you see i want it done properly not in the backyard or i think job.so you do DIY toe, camber, caster etc at

home too?can you do mine..............pause....................NOT

wheres the pros at?

burado
21st February 2007, 10:40 PM
Just ask the local wheel alignment guru to centre your rear diff (assuming you have forked out for the adjustable rod). He will know what you mean.

Now.... http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/dry.gif should i suggest how it alters the roll centre or leave that for another topic http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/dry.gif

driftism
22nd February 2007, 06:24 PM
wheel alignment can be done at home... use some string and some axle stands. Save yourself 20 bucks. haha

dr1ft-pig
22nd February 2007, 10:21 PM
Just ask the local wheel alignment guru to centre your rear diff (assuming you have forked out for the adjustable rod). He will know what you mean.

Now.... http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/dry.gif should i suggest how it alters the roll centre or leave that for another topic http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/dry.gif[/b]


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif i think u better leave it for another topic jase lol

GAKI86
31st March 2007, 03:36 AM
yo richard,, http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/biggrin.gif ian here from melbourne
where have u been man!! http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/biggrin.gif

btw what bushings you using for your swaybar?

starni_boy
31st March 2007, 09:08 AM
looks like hes using standard bushes that come with the whiteline swaybar when you buy it. lol