32 dead, 20 injured.

[Klutch]

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/16/vtech.shooting/index.html
Discuss.

[Gilly]

what are we supposed to discuss?

its a fucked up thing that happened

thats going to be the only response.....

[anastasios]

yea this emo thing is gettin a bit out of hand

[Brendo]

thats a fucked up thing that happened....

[breno]

Good on em i say, they will eventually kill them selves off http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

But i must be living under a rock? I watch the news everyday and havnt heard anything about this?

[Bustin_86]

Sad to hear about the people that died, but at the end of the day, fuck em.

Americans keep digging themselves a deeper hole. Ill laugh when there continent becomes entrenched in a civil war.

Flame me yanky lovers

[Brendo]

half the student prob had guns on them anyway, dont know why they didnt shoot back, 32 dead is pretty minimal considering it was in america lol

[Klutch]

This could have been prevented, Gilly.

Was watching it on the news. Apparently the swat didn't storm in until AFTER she shooter had shot himself, when they should have stormed in straight away.

The shooting could have been prevented, as he killed 2 earlier and went back 2 hours later to finish off more.
What were the police doing the whole time?

Bustin_86, i do agree. They do keep digging themselves bigger and bigger holes. They don't do anything to stop it. They need EXTREMELY strict gun laws, but nothing is happening.


half the student prob had guns on them anyway, dont know why they didnt shoot back, 32 dead is pretty minimal considering it was in america lol[/b]

Uh...you know it is the biggest school shooting in history...?
It's basicaly the new collumbine(sp?)

[us_ae86]

Ahem.... Hello Bustin_86.

[Klutch]

Ahem.... Hello Bustin_86.[/b]
It's true, and you can't deny it.

Look at the gun laws compared to USA and Australia, then look at the school shootings, or just shootings in general.

[us_ae86]

Yeah.. agree about the gun laws being retarded and such... But do we really have to be offensive towards americans? Remember... I'm a damn yank. http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/laugh.gif
-Chris-

[Bustin_86]

It was a generalization us_ae86. Every generalization will have its exceptions, and you seem like a decent enough guy to me so perhaps you are one of them. Then again, i don't know you any better than you know me, so perhaps you are a stupid yank, and perhaps I'm a upstart kid.

And its not just gun laws I'm talking about, though that would rank high on my list, the American's, and particularly there government, do all manner of fucked up things and then sit around and wonder why people get pissed off at them and blow them up and shit.

Anyway, this is a car forum, and sometimes political views should be kept for other places.

Keep digging America.

[Gilly]

at the end of the day it wasn't prevented

hindsight is a wonderful thing.

people need to realise the American government does not reflect the American people. they still get up every morning, go to work, pay bills and come home like we do.

32 people died, who gives a fuck if they were american. those people were innocent and have had their lives tragically cut short by one barbaric act.

each of those 32 people leave behind a mother and father possibly children, their partners, brothers and sisters other and family and friends all of whom would be deeply traumatised by their death

but yeah fuk them they deserve it because they were born in america......

[..MeZ..]

Good on em i say, they will eventually kill them selves off http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

But i must be living under a rock? I watch the news everyday and havnt heard anything about this?[/b]


the dude shot himself after it all happened.............well im pretty sure he did any way they will probabaly end up blaming video games and such

[Bustin_86]

As i said, its sad that people died. People are people. I feel what your saying Gilly, and i agree whole heartedly.

But i still stick with what i said. I think its wrong that these people create for themselves the nation that they live in, then they whine about the consequences. If they really cared enough, they would change it. But at the end of the day what their government sees is 32 people dead, which while it is regrettable, isn't enough to enforce stricter gun laws which would mean less sales of guns, and less tasty taxes.

[ae82]

its sad, hope they could drift in heaven with 86

[chapl]

bustin_86

you ever been to the u.s? or even travelled for that matter?

i dont think you realise how very lucky we are in australia..

why the hate on the americans?

[FLT LNR]

apparently virginia has no waiting period, background checks etc on the guns he used....

and within 24 hours of the tragedy, the presidential spokesman issues a statement in supposrt of gun owners....

enough said. theres lots of countries where this thing could easily happen. just that 99% of them are third-world countries.

it's not too late to change the ancient gun laws in the US, however theres tens of millions of guns already circulating. sadly they'll be reaping what theyve sewn potentially forever.

[us_ae86]

........... they still get up every morning, go to work, pay bills and come home like we do.[/b]
That would be me. I don't vote. Nor do i care for politics. No guns here either. I've got 2 kids to worry about.. not guns. This massacre is one of the reasons why my wife urges me to move to AU. and raise our family over there... But i have a feeling that if i do, I might be singled out as the "yank". Meh.. either way, I'll still be fixin up the spoontas!! .............. I <3 AE86.
-Chris-

[Klutch]

Anyway, this is a car forum, and sometimes political views should be kept for other places.[/b]
Keeping in mind this is an off-topic section of the forum.


and within 24 hours of the tragedy, the presidential spokesman issues a statement in supposrt of gun owners....[/b]

In support of gun owners? I don't follow you, got anymore infomation on this?

[Bustin_86]

No never been to the US mate. Traveled a bit, not anything flash though. Obviously my views are based solely upon what i believe and what i have learned from whatever possibly biased opinions i have taken in. Sorry if my lack of experience bothers you, but i was under the impression that we were to express our opinions that we posses without disclaimers specifying our knowledge in the matter. Take what i say with whatever spin that you please...

I fully understand how lucky we are. Because people worked at making this country what it is. Which is what I'm trying to say.

I wouldn't call it hate as such, more that i don't have much sympathy for them. They made what they have what it is.

I'm sorry if my views have troubled or upset anyone, but nonetheless they are what i believe until i can come across a opinion that counters mine with enough force for me to rethink my beliefs.

Chris- Some people may give you shit, but i would personally admire an effort like that. At lest you would be actively trying to change your circumstances so that this stuff has a smaller likeliness of happening to you. What annoys me is that America, and many other countries, fuck stuff up then complain about the consequences. I have good money that in a couple of months only a small percentage of people will dwell on this happening, and that nothing of consequence will change in regards to this incident. If people are genuinely upset by it, help change it. Or at least try...

[FLT LNR]

klutch, the bit about the prez's spokesman was basically a direct quote from ten news, they didnt elaborate on that, or i stopped watching...
i take it it was just something like the usual drill regarding the right to bear arms etc, keepin the NRA happy etc.

[Klutch]

klutch, the bit about the prez's spokesman was basically a direct quote from ten news, they didnt elaborate on that, or i stopped watching...
i take it it was just something like the usual drill regarding the right to bear arms etc, keepin the NRA happy etc.[/b]
And this is the reason why so many people get killed.
Make the firearms harder to acquire.
Background checks, Licensing, etc.

[anastasios]

wouldnt it be the asian guys gfs fault who broke up with him lol?

[Gilly]

wouldnt it be the asian guys gfs fault who broke up with him lol?[/b]

yeah its her fault

a good friend of mine hung himself over his girlfriend. its never that bad that you should feel you have to hurt yourself or others.

single most retarded comment in this thread

[Klutch]

Suicide is a Long term decision for a short term problem.
It's the pussies way out.

IF, he had a gf, it wouldn't be her fault. It was his decision to do it, not hers.

[eastcoastdrifter]

well Braking up with Girls are pretty shitty especially asian girls (experience) can fuck with your head~~~but she isnt the one who put the gun in his head

[waggy]

i guess the saddest thing is nobody is surprised when this kind of thing happens anymore....

[breno]

If this happend in aus, would it be the hoons fault?

[Klutch]

If this happend in aus, would it be the hoons fault?[/b]
No, It'd by Grand theft auto's fault.

[ke70dave]

you guys can bag out on Americans....or American gun laws all you want..

guns dont kill people, people kill people. yes it sounds silly, but its true

something made that guy angry/depressed enough to take ppls lives and then to take his own. its easy for us to say, ohh yeah he was an idiot. but there is something deeper problem that is causing things like this to happen in the world. and it is obviously getting worse, at an alarming rate. now im not saying im an expert or anything, but things like broken families, discrimination etc appear to have a massive effect on ppls lives, to such an extent as to make people do these kind of things.

thats just my thoughts anyway

[Klutch]

You're right.
But we can't put laws on people for being psychotic.
Take away there guns, we take away there weapons to kill.

Apparently his GF broke up with him, so he felt the need to slaughter people then kill himself.

What would a solution be, to help a person with a psychological problem?
If someone is that fucked up in the head, no ammount of counseling will help them.

[breno]

People are always going to do what they want, to some extent there is nothing we can do without fully controlling there lifes, mabye we need anouther Hitler?

[Gilly]

If this happend in aus, would it be the hoons fault?[/b]

this did happen in Australia, Port Arthur 28th April 1996, Martin Bryant killed 35 people and injured 37.

Due to the structure of the Australian Constitution, it was not possible for Federal gun legislation to be introduced, thereby requiring each Australian State and Territory had to (freely) acknowledge and endeavour to implement tougher laws. obvious public support in the wake of the previously mentioned Port Arthur shootings, and minimal opposition from gun owners' organisations (we just don't have that many), resulted in laws being proposed for immediate adoption in all states, which included mandatory gun licenses and registration of all firearms, and a near-complete ban on all semi-automatic rifles and shotguns, and all pump-action shotguns.

The governments of two states, Tasmania and Queensland, objected to some of the changes, causing John Howard to threaten them with a constitutional referendum to transfer power over gun laws to the federal government. The Federal Government also threatened to cut off federal funding to thos states and territories.

The National Rifle Association (USA!!!!!), attempted to intervene in the issue by supporting gun supporters. Faced with the pressure of strong national public opinion, the two objecting states agreed without any compromises or concessions to the new laws, which were immediately enacted.

The Federal Government introduced a 1% levy on income tax for a period of one year to finance the billion dollar "buy back" purchase and destruction of all previously legally-held semi-automatic rifles including .22 rimfires, semi-automatic shotguns and pump-action shotguns. Although only one state published statistics, it appears that 5% of the destroyed guns were of the military style, the remainder being sporting and farmers' working firearms. This initiative cost the australin taxpayer in excess of 500 million dollars.

These ideas and initiatives would have to be adopted by the United states if they were to have "acceptable" gun laws. Unfortunately not all states see the need and with a population of just under 300 million (as opposed to our 20 million) it is indeed in my opinion a monumental task one that could never be successfully achieved

sadly...

[reuben]

Just clicked on this topic at 32 posts.Spooky!!To se even 1 young life lost is wrong.No parent should ever bury thier child.A terrible terrible waste.

[floody31]

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........... they still get up every morning, go to work, pay bills and come home like we do.[/b]
That would be me. I don't vote. Nor do i care for politics.
-Chris-
[/b]

Well shit man, perhaps you should vote and care for politics! Maybe if elections in the USA actually resembled democracy you might get, wait for it, REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT! Not a personal attack, more an observation on the power structure there.

And not have the president's stooges making pro-shooter comments after a massacre!

[anastasios]

how can you say thats a retarded comment? you guys are blaming the americans about the deaths, but before its the americans fault it would be the relationship breakup fault, there are other ways to cause destruction other than guns, i love how the mods get personal, makes for a good forum

[Klutch]

how can you say thats a retarded comment? you guys are blaming the americans about the deaths, but before its the americans fault it would be the relationship breakup fault, there are other ways to cause destruction other than guns, i love how the mods get personal, makes for a good forum[/b]
Uh..how is it the break-ups fault?

The guy was obviously mentally unstable.

[Gilly]

so you think its the girlfriends fault the 32 people were gunned down?

she should face the blame for 32 peoples deaths?

she was the first person he shot dead, no reason or logic as to why he shot the rest.

she my friend, would be if anything considered a "catalyst" one that causes an act or event to occur but plays no part or action in the act or event itself.

i've never gotten personal before this thread, i stand by my statement.

[Kerryx]

think the topic has been discussed enough, some pretty stupid points of view coming across.. Its a sad event and yes people will be missed by their familys and such, No need for the idiotic comments though.

[anastasios]

yes he was mentally unstable but what triggered him was the break up, if you took me wrong then thats the problems of internet, and also you dont know about the details of the break up, i stand by my statement

[wooley]

yes he was mentally unstable but what triggered him was the break up, if you took me wrong then thats the problems of internet, and also you dont know about the details of the break up, i stand by my statement[/b]

wow so everytime theres a break up. 32 people deserve to die?

breaking up with someone isnt the end of the world. and certainly shouldnt be the end of 32 people lives.

[Klutch]

Relationships can be replaced.

Lives cannot.

[driftke70]

us ae86 instead of taking rhd parts from aus to america, why dont you just bring everything to australia. Australia is a fairly multicultural place, sure people will point out the fact your american from your accent, but who cares.

Another one of those things that happens, its only a matter of when in america. Its almost like they just keep going in the same repititive loop. They will be fucked soon anyways, over 14% of the american economy is owned by sand monkeys. They will continue to build it up over time, then pull it all out of the country in one hit and crash.

[driftke70]

just read about the james bryant thing in tas, i was always a bit sus about that, the people he "ïnjured" had little more than bumps and scratches/grazes etc from jumping on the ground and running away, all 35 deaths where head shots. He also supposidly used a semi auto shooting from the waist. To be honest with you, 35 moving targets, shooting from the waist, he would have had to reload several times. Just kinda seems unlikely to me, i cant give any reason as to what could have happened but im just saying, you know, doesnt add up.

Dont forget, what goes up, must come down.

[FLT LNR]

/\ yeh i struck this wierdness, a good point but no point messin wit the figures. for the families.

lots of posts have commented that you cant stop someone from being crazy. but the truth is you CAN stop them from gettin guns. there are no gun stores anywhere near my home, and what with the primary producer/ sporting shooter liscences and background checks... it's really surely close to impossible...

the big shame is america could actually have been 'the land of the free' had they not held onto such outdated firearms legislation, a remnant of their civil war. instead it's the land of the rich, the poor, and the gunshot victim.

[us_ae86]

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........... they still get up every morning, go to work, pay bills and come home like we do.[/b]
That would be me. I don't vote. Nor do i care for politics.
-Chris-
[/b]

Well shit man, perhaps you should vote and care for politics! Maybe if elections in the USA actually resembled democracy you might get, wait for it, REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT! Not a personal attack, more an observation on the power structure there.

And not have the president's stooges making pro-shooter comments after a massacre!
[/b]

I CAN'T vote. I'm a convicted felon. So why even bother. If I could vote, it would be a different story. This is what I get for stupid behavior as a kid.
-Chris-

[mrs_ae86]

what's really messed up is that we can vote til we're blue in the face and protest all we want to but it's not gonna make a difference. it just falls upon deaf ears. President fucktard has really screwed this country over and it is for that reason alone why i keep begging my hubby...us_ae86.....to move me and the kids back home to oz.

[Bustin_86]

Making a difference doesnt have to stop with voting.

[Brendo]

justin u should be banned from this thread, just shut your neck lol

[AE-DarkShadow]

Ummm... I'm an American... and I applied to that college... guess where I'm NOT going? hahaha. anyway... It sucks about the shooting, really, but do we have to blame it on him being "American"? seriously? I'm american, I own guns, and I dont go around popping caps in everybody. The deal is that he cracked and killed a bunch of people. The Police kept arresting the wrong people due to insufficient information.

Now, do you guys SERIOUSLY think he killed people because he lives in America? I highly doubt it... as for American's digging a hole... Chris may be going to Aus, But I'm moving to Japan, Muahahahahaha!

[GAKI86]

that dood played waay too much Postal..

[Klutch]

I'll seperate this up, so i can answer each peace seperatly.

anyway... It sucks about the shooting, really, but do we have to blame it on him being "American"? seriously? I'm american, I own guns, and I dont go around popping caps in everybody.[/b]
Not sure where anyone blamed it on him being american, as he was Koren.


Now, do you guys SERIOUSLY think he killed people because he lives in America? I highly doubt it... as for American's digging a hole...[/b]
Yes, i do.

You know why this would have never happend in Australia?
We have EXTREMELY strict gun laws, and you can't just go buy a gun off the street.

that dood played waay too much Postal..[/b]
Nah, if he had played postal it he would just douse people in petrol. Light em on fire, then piss on them as they run around helplessly.

....or was that just me?

[Bustin_86]

LOL

Postal, gonna be such a controversial movie. Cant wait to hear the reviews.

[Driftspec]

that dood played waay too much Postal..[/b]

Enough blaming it on computer games already... http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

As was said in an American Dad episode, "Guns don't kill people, people kill people!" and sadly, it is true. I don't want to go much further than that, apart from saying that this is a truly disturbing incident and we hope that those affected by the tragedy can grieve on their own terms, not of those layed out by the media.

[..MeZ..]

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Gilly @ Apr 17 2007, 12:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=336517)<div class='quotemain'>
........... they still get up every morning, go to work, pay bills and come home like we do.[/b]
That would be me. I don't vote. Nor do i care for politics.
-Chris-
[/b]

Well shit man, perhaps you should vote and care for politics! Maybe if elections in the USA actually resembled democracy you might get, wait for it, REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT! Not a personal attack, more an observation on the power structure there.

And not have the president's stooges making pro-shooter comments after a massacre!
[/b][/quote]

I CAN'T vote. I'm a convicted felon. So why even bother. If I could vote, it would be a different story. This is what I get for stupid behavior as a kid.
-Chris-
[/b][/quote]


Who cares the polls are rigged anyway well thats my thoughts after watching this documentury on Algore which was about him lecturing the world bout global warming and such but still it did hav its little side topic about him running for presidency http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/2thumbs.gif

[us_ae86]

Who cares the polls are rigged anyway well thats my thoughts after watching this documentury on Algore which was about him lecturing the world bout global warming and such but still it did hav its little side topic about him running for presidency http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/2thumbs.gif[/b]
Very true... To my recollection the poles ARE rigged... There was a vote for a third runway here at the local airport. The vote results were a "NO" and they did it anyways.... I guess voting doesn't really mater here anymore... Oh well. http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/smile.gif
-Chris-

[GAKI86]

america an awesome place to play GTA in RL!!!

[Gilly]

america an awesome place to play GTA in RL!!![/b]

anastasios no longer holds the trophy for most retarded comment in this thread.

[GAKI86]

congratulations on your outlinings gilly..

you may now place this in your sig http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[driftke70]

heard a joke today about the killings, kinda gnarly

what do virgina uni and mount everest have in common, they both have evil slopes and are minus 32 degrees.


I didnt make the joke up so dont shoot the messenger. The gayest thing in this whole situation is that he had the oppertunity to kill himself.

[Granto]

blah blah guntalk

i made a funny pic the other day which explains why america is forced to have gun trouble.

they have rights, ie. the right to bear arms, but people have taken it the wrong way...

[attachment=14479:attachment]

See, that's all, america misread.

[driftke70]

yeah you hell made it "worth1000.com"

[Granto]

I didn't take the picture of the bear.

I added the text though.

p.s.

eat me bitch.

^_-

p.s. again

original thingo = http://www.worth1000.com/entries/261000/261347qvXU_w.jpg

[Driftspec]

blah blah guntalk

i made a funny pic the other day which explains why america is forced to have gun trouble.

they have rights, ie. the right to bear arms, but people have taken it the wrong way...

[attachment=14479:attachment]

See, that's all, america misread.[/b]

Pffttt you so took that off of Family Guy http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

[Granto]

yes, now THAT is where i stole the idea from http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

[GAKI86]

now people at nasa are doin it..

0_o

[oni]

i feel sorry for all those victims. i heard a gun spokesperson on the news saying that if guns were legal to carry, the students would have been able to kill him before he took more lives. Fight fire with fire. the dumbest thing i ever heard. adding more guns is the problem

just an interesting point about the port arthur/martin bryant shootings
you know the weapons that he used in that attack i think it was a FN FAL and a AK
the serial numbers on those weapons matched weapons that were handed in at a gun buyback in victoria
i found that out when i read a transcript from a parliment reading concerning guns...yes i was that bored
so actually corrupt victorian police are responsible for the port arthur shooting

that is all

[chapl]

what does west virginia tech college and mt everest have in common?








it has one killer slope and its minus 33
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/ninja.gif

[Klutch]

what does west virginia tech college and mt everest have in common?








it has one killer slope and its minus 33
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/ninja.gif[/b]


heard a joke today about the killings, kinda gnarly

what do virgina uni and mount everest have in common, they both have evil slopes and are minus 32 degrees.


I didnt make the joke up so dont shoot the messenger. The gayest thing in this whole situation is that he had the oppertunity to kill himself.[/b]


Bit late on that joke mate http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

[chapl]

ppfffft mine sounds better

[driftke70]

its meant to be killer slopes and minus 32 degrees, my posts dwindle towards the 5am mark

[johl]

fight fire with fire? was that NRA rep serious? every school yard fight would end with someone either shot or threatened with a gun if every one was packin heat... (lol im so gangsta i said packin heat) but yes us86 u should definately listen to ur wife... way safer for ur kids unless u go to some ghetto towns in NSW like cambelltown n the like.... brissy or adelaide hills ftw!

[driftke70]

sunny coast owns australia

[floody31]

I CAN'T vote. I'm a convicted felon. So why even bother. If I could vote, it would be a different story. This is what I get for stupid behavior as a kid.
-Chris-[/b]

Bit late back in this thread...
Wow, that is f#cked! Not the felony bit, people make mistakes, but the not being able to vote part. I'd understand if you were in gaol, but as you're someone who I gather has done their time, thats total bullshit. Democracy and justice - where?!

And I see there's been another multiple shooting in a public place the other day.



Oni,
I fail to recall a buyback on those guns prior to Port Arthur - they were legal before. I don't think corrupt Victorian Police had anything to do with it, more likely someone probably forged the serial numbers on one pair of the guns which would make sense for whatever reasons the gun selling crooks might have.

[johl]

gaol....lol

[Axentrik]

Wow! Australian's, well at least ae86 owning Australian's are a notch above the americans! I did not see one reference to the fact that he was a Korean import having to do with it.

[us_ae86]

This thread is shit. Sorry fellas, but it DOES offend me. I'm an american and I have done nothing but tried to help everyone out on this forum. But for me to see all the bashing???? It kinda hits a low blow for me guys.
no cheers,
-Chris-

[Klutch]

I did not see one reference to the fact that he was a Korean import having to do with it.[/b]
Because it doesn't? I don't see how his race would have had anything to do with it.
He was mentally unstable, he had a gun, people died.


This thread is shit. Sorry fellas, but it DOES offend me[/b]
Unless i've missed something, none of us have EVER given americans shit on this forum, its the laws, and if we ever have, its probably a joke. (As EVERYONE does once in a while)

I'm an american and I have done nothing but tried to help everyone out on this forum.[/b]
So because 1 or 2 people make extremely small remarks you blame everyone?

But for me to see all the bashing???? It kinda hits a low blow for me guys.[/b]
Again, i haven't seen ANYONE "bash" americans. And if they ever have im sure it was just poking fun, as people do.

no cheers,
-Chris-[/b]
There was no need for that....

[Solo]

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[eastcoastdrifter]

fight fire with fire? was that NRA rep serious? every school yard fight would end with someone either shot or threatened with a gun if every one was packin heat... (lol im so gangsta i said packin heat) but yes us86 u should definately listen to ur wife... way safer for ur kids unless u go to some ghetto towns in NSW like cambelltown n the like.... brissy or adelaide hills ftw![/b]

Nothing wrong with Campbelltown Lived here all my life

[johl]

lol gotta give respect to every brother that makes it out of the ghetto alive... nah just jokin mate... just stereotyping... http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tup.gif

[floody31]

gaol....lol[/b]

Don't be disparaging the Queen's English my friend!

I haven't bashed Americans in this thread but I certainly feel a rise in hostility when I see "jail", "color", "favorite", anything suffixed with "ize" or any other awful, lazy corruption of spelling....

[FLT LNR]

/\/\

absolutely correct.

gaol is the correct australian/english spelling. The other words you mentioned floody, are horrific bastardisations made by America-land. Which can't spell anything unless they spell it phonetically like a 6 year old "sounding out" words.

good on you. correct english is worth preserving.

EDIT: in defence of seppo's like chris, they don't have much choice given american spell checks n software n shit drop the "u" out of heaps of words, and replace a thousand or so "s" letters with "z" letters.

[Axentrik]

Ah true Klutch, it doesnt... thats the point I guess. Just seems a heap of other people tend to think otherwise from things I've read which is well, stupid...



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I did not see one reference to the fact that he was a Korean import having to do with it.[/b]
Because it doesn't? I don't see how his race would have had anything to do with it.
He was mentally unstable, he had a gun, people died.


This thread is shit. Sorry fellas, but it DOES offend me[/b]
Unless i've missed something, none of us have EVER given americans shit on this forum, its the laws, and if we ever have, its probably a joke. (As EVERYONE does once in a while)

I'm an american and I have done nothing but tried to help everyone out on this forum.[/b]
So because 1 or 2 people make extremely small remarks you blame everyone?

But for me to see all the bashing???? It kinda hits a low blow for me guys.[/b]
Again, i haven't seen ANYONE "bash" americans. And if they ever have im sure it was just poking fun, as people do.

no cheers,
-Chris-[/b]
There was no need for that....
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