Brake Upgrade.

[Bustin_86]

Hi guys, just wondering if i could get a bit of help on this subject.

Basically, i finally have my suspension to a point where i am reasonably happy with it, so i now want to turn my eyes to my brake setup.

My car is a series one T18, and currently the only upgrades i have done is some Lucas Hi-temp pads. I like how these pads effect the braking, but have found that they fade terribly quickly.

So i really want to develop this part of the car before I get more power.

Now this may seem like a fairly easy to answer predicament, but i do have a few "stipulations" that i have to meet.

- I would like to retain my series one struts as i have my suspension in the car to suit these struts. If i have to, i will buy 86 struts and some springs and transfer my shocks over, but i would prefer to avoid this.
- I would like to keep the setup as budget as possible, but i dont expect miracles and am willing to pay for quality (to a certain extent).
- My car is being developed for grip racing. So a balance between stopping power, predictability and reliabilty is a must.
- I would prefer to adopt a system that allowed for further advancement later on, ie aftermarket options.
- I would prefer to be able to use a 14 inch rim with the setup.

So far, from my limited experience, these are my options.
- Upgrade to sprinter brakes/modify t18 struts to fit sprinter brakes. Put in JDM calipers, better rotors and good pads (Pro's: Reasonably cost effective, Fulfills most requirements. Con's: Im afraid that this setup will not be enough in the long term)
- Upgrade to Silvia Brakes (Pro's: Excellent braking, aftermarket support, Fullfils most requirments. Con's: Have to convert to Silvia coilovers, which i do not want to do.)
- Upgrade to FC brake setup (Pro's: Awesome braking, fullfils pretty much all requirements. Con's: Expensive.)

Currently i am leaning towards the FC setup, but am afraid of the cost involved.

If anyone could please input some information as to these setups or suggest alternatives please do so!

Any help that can be tendered would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,

Justin

[ae71]

you wont be able to use 14's with FC brakes..?

you can keep the 14 if you use ca18/sr20de slivia brakes, sr20det need 15's.

jdm, standard on ge sprinters (must of been good enough to stop them), with better pads and probaly less weight should be alright.

[rthy]

the jdm fc brake upgrade can still use 14" rims with lil room for comfort...

could ra60 struts be good on a t18? vented disks minimum 14" rims
also see the corona strut, hilux caliper pug, 406 disk upgrade

[Bustin_86]

Yeah thanks Aaron. I know what your saying and that is probably what i will have to resort to... but i dont really wanna settle for alright http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/sad.gif

Ra60 struts, what modifications are required? Would my series one custom springs fit those struts?

Do you have anymore information on the corona strut and hilux caliper upgrade?

Sorry for more questions, i really appreciate the help though guys.

[ae71]

Do you have anymore information on the corona strut and hilux caliper upgrade?[/b]

there was a for sale thread with the setup for sale, may of also been in some budget upgrades threds

[rthy]

check it on toymods
http://www.toymods.net/forums/showthread.php?t=8493

theres more info around

[Bustin_86]

Thanks again guys.

Any more suggestions?

[anastasios]

what kind of engine will you be using?

[Delazy]

theres a cortina caliper/ ?? disk that is also a widely used upgrade....but not sure on all the details....they are on here somewhere if u can be fucked looking

[Hen is a total nutcase]

A simple-ish upgrade is Sigma arms, RA60 struts and RA40 tie rods etc. Gets bigger stub axles and brakes aand returns camber and toe to normal. You may be able to reuse your shocks, butI'm not sure on that one.

Or you could see if the RA60 disc could be made to fit the T18 hub, then make up an adaptor to mount the RA60 caliper on the T18 strut. Shouldn't be too hard if you are handy in a workshop.

These options may be cheaper than either Hilux or RX7 and will definitely fit under 14s.

Hen

[Bustin_86]

Currently using a stock 3tc.

Will be upgrading to a 4age later in the year, and am building it to around 150-160 hp atw.

I would like the brakes to be adequate for that package.

Thanks a lot for your help everybody. Im taking the options into consideration.

Thanks again!

Justin

[julzy]

Using commodore girlock calipers and early magna disc http://www.rollaclub.com/board/index.php?s...66&hl=magna (http://www.rollaclub.com/board/index.php?showtopic=10466&hl=magna)

pretty simple conversion and you could do it with your existing struts and keep 14" wheels
also many pad choices and rebuild kits are cheap as chips

[rthy]

http://www.rollaclub.com/board/index.php?showtopic=1603


Front brakes:

To go with Corona brakes, you will need:

Corona XT130 or RT132 struts, complete with discs and calipers.
Corona XT130, RT132 or AE86 (and maybe some others) steering knuckles
AE86 springs, preferably lowered (KTFL33 from King Springs)
AE86 top spring hat
KE30 or KE55 strut top

If it is easier (it was for me) you can also use the Corona control arms. That way you don't need to disassemble the steering knuckle from the control arm which can sometimes be a pain if you don't have the right tools.

A combination of all of those things will bolt straight into your car. You will get some positive camber on the front, this can be fixed by Pedders. You can get longer control arms and/or adjustable strut tops, but that becomes complicated and expensive. If you are in Brisbane call Brian at Pedders Geebung (after you have put it all in your car), tell him you need to have your camber corrected, and he will fix you up. If he doesn't know what you're talking about, tell him you need the him to set up your car like Fook's red Corolla.[/b]

[Bustin_86]

Does anyone know if i sprinter calipers will bolt up to t18 series one struts?

Or if the struts can be modified to suit these calipers?