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ArJay
22nd May 2007, 08:50 PM
http://www.my105.com/17815

Wonder how much he's asking....be a good project....

R:)

mike86
22nd May 2007, 09:05 PM
that wud be a sweet buy just wish they had more pics

japlish
23rd May 2007, 02:01 PM
I email him and he sent some pic and current restoration details.[attachment=15534:attachment] [attachment=15535:attachment] [attachment=15536:attachment] [attachment=15537:attachment] [attachment=15538:attachment]
Toyota AE86 Sprinter Group A. VIN# AE86-16204

History
According to Bob Holden it was built originally as a GpA rally car, possibly for Brian Hilton of Mossman NSW, and probably in mid 1983. It was purchased by Bob Holden Motors and converted to circuit racing. Bob campaigned it in ATCC 1985-92 taking a class win at Bathurst in 1987. There were multiple drivers over these years with Bob leasing/renting it to whoever came along. It was sold to Adrian Brooke in 1990 who extensively refurbished it with the help of Peter Helihen, a well-known local race mechanic. Its last major circuit event was 1993 Bathurst, with the major sponsor being 4KQ. At that time, computer systems were very expensive so they removed the computer and it supposedly became the last carburetor car to run at Bathurst. Subsequently used for limited club-level racing, then for “rally experience". At some time during this later phase the front AP brakes, webers and bag tank were discarded and a Motec computer fitted to control the refitted Toyota injection.

Toyota Sprinters
This model of car was raced here by Toyota Team Australia (TTA), Bob Holden Motors and multiple privateers. Some retained the local model name of “sprinter", while others used “Levin", the performance Japanese model, which came standard with the performance 4AG twin cam engine. TTA also raced a few coupes, which had a different body but identical mechanics. Locally sold Sprinters were typically upgraded to Levin spec for racing using imported packages from specialist wreckers, or from Toyota, who bought in a limited number of spares to support the race program. The Levin spec cars had many important differences, rear discs, 4AG engine, larger radiator, larger diff & axles, vented front brakes. The homologated parts list is long, and much of it was from prominent suppliers like AP Racing and TRD. A lot of the originally homologated parts like brakes were further upgraded from 1991 onwards, when freedoms came into the rules. There is a flourishing club in Australia and they remain a cult car in Japan, UK, and USA.

Current state
It was purchased with front body damage and with many parts missing (see pics). It is now largely disassembled for restoration. It has its original shell and GpA log book with matching numbers. Many small parts like bolts, clips, bits of trim will be missing requiring visits`to local wrecker.

Refer to table below for details of current status

Item Sub-assembly Status
Body Basic Shell
(VIN# matches log-book) Mostly sandblasted & undercoated
Straightened as-required on rack
Turret and front clip replaced.
Needs detail work to floors etc.
Doors Sandblasted & undercoated
Lots of filler but not rusty.
Mirrors and fittings OK
Glass & window mechanisms appear OK
Bonnet Straight. Needs rust repair to leading edge
Tailgate Straight. Needs significant rust repair
Rear ¼'s Sandblasted & undercoated
Straight but lots of filler.
Needs typical rust repairs to upper & lower sections
Bumpers F & R complete with brackets, front un-damaged , rear has been repaired.
Spoilers F & R new fiberglass copies made off original TRD ones
Electrical Wiring Complete but needs restoration/replacement
Lights Complete set undamaged
Switchgear Complete set but needs restoration

Engine 4AG Engine Complete fan to flywheel with correct starter, alternator, manifolds etc.Dyno tuned @ 194HP. Has had limited use in 3J category vehicle since complete professional rebuild using lots of brand new parts (crank, rods etc). Note, engine is currently set up with Toyota injection as per pre'92 GpA spec, but can also supply 2 x 45DCOE weber & manifold as per ‘92 bathurst spec.
Computer Motec. Files available
Driveline T50 Gearbox with special Close ratio gear set. Fully rebuilt and un-used
Diff Diff centre with spool completely rebuilt & unused. 4.3 ratio as used Bathurst. Includes provision for oil circulation pump for long distance events.
Rear axle housing & axles Correct Jap spec “big-bearing" Levin axles. Axles machined for AP rear disc hats.
Wheels 4 x BBS forged, 15 x 6". Undamaged condition. These are not the ones originally used for racing, but that type are still regularly for sale.
Clutch Master cyl rebuilt & un-used.
Puck type race clutch & matching flywheel- tested OK
Brakes Rear AP slotted vented rotors and AP 2 piston, alloy calipers. Calipers were purchased as “ready to fit" & includes pads
Front AP rotors as-is. No calipers (AP2361 typically used)
Pedals Standard
Handbrake Hydraulic handbrake, master cylinder rebuilt and un-used since. Bracket repaired
Cylinders Rebuilt and un-used since
Suspension Rear shocks Bilsteins, checked as OK.
Coil-over kit, new and un-used
Rear suspension arms Lower arms rose-jointed. Stripped, cleaned & painted
Upper arms poly bushed, Stripped, cleaned & painted
Sway bars Uprated rear sway complete with mountings, needs painting
Front race one missing but readily available
Front shocks Bilstein coil-overs, specially made for car. Strut brace specially made for car
Springs various
Front subframe Original lightened and seam welded. Needs clean-up.
Front suspension arms Lower arms missing but patterns available to copy.
Interior Dash & console Appears complete but needs full restoration
Instruments VDO oil & temp . .
New VDO 8000 tacho
Purpose made dash facia to suit
Seat Missing

Steering Column Complete incl wheel, but needs restoration
Rack Complete but needs restoration
Fuel system Fillers 1 x drybreak female as fitted to rear ¼ panel. checked as OK.
Tank missing



Known major missing parts Radiator, Oil vent tank, fuel tank & 1 dry break fitting, front lower wishbones (rose jointed), front sway bar & links, muffler & pipe

skein
23rd May 2007, 02:06 PM
Take the engine, drivetrain, suspension.... then run far away.

japlish
23rd May 2007, 04:32 PM
He want roughly 20000 based on parts value. Good luck I reckon, unless some one values the car's historical value that much. Which is tossery wank factor thing to value anyway.

mike86
23rd May 2007, 04:44 PM
nah its a bit sad to see somthing with that kind of history in that way. she's pretty nackerd

parrot
23rd May 2007, 05:15 PM
I suspect this is Terryo on these forums

Klutch
23rd May 2007, 06:15 PM
http://www.my105.com/classified.asp?id=6927

Sprinter-Saurus
23rd May 2007, 06:59 PM
Fark that's disappointing to see a Grp A in that sort of decayed condition.

Instead of being used as a bloody rally hack it should have remained in it's original race spec. http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/sad.gif

floody31
24th May 2007, 03:17 PM
That AE86 was also in Zoom in the late 90's, OMG SIK! http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif
Could be a good racecar project, I would personally love to see one or two in Gr. A/Gr.C association racing. And the Peter Williamson ma61 Supra if it still exists.

cri_ag
25th May 2007, 07:17 PM
Fark that's disappointing to see a Grp A in that sort of decayed condition.

Instead of being used as a bloody rally hack it should have remained in it's original race spec. http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/sad.gif[/b]


totaly agree, id love to see this restored to its former glory. make a refreshing change to the beaten-up, drift hack method of "modifying" everyone seems so obsessed with.

Jonny Rochester
26th May 2007, 12:10 PM
Toyota Sprinters
This model of car was raced here by Toyota Team Australia (TTA), Bob Holden Motors and multiple privateers. Some retained the local model name of “sprinter", while others used “Levin", the performance Japanese model, which came standard with the performance 4AG twin cam engine. TTA also raced a few coupes, which had a different body but identical mechanics. Locally sold Sprinters were typically upgraded to Levin spec for racing using imported packages from specialist wreckers, or from Toyota, who bought in a limited number of spares to support the race program. The Levin spec cars had many important differences, rear discs, 4AG engine, larger radiator, larger diff & axles, vented front brakes. The homologated parts list is long, and much of it was from prominent suppliers like AP Racing and TRD. A lot of the originally homologated parts like brakes were further upgraded from 1991 onwards, when freedoms came into the rules. There is a flourishing club in Australia and they remain a cult car in Japan, UK, and USA.[/b]

^^This sums up everything anyone in Australia knew about the Sprinter before 2001. http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/laugh.gif Such a mixture of half-correct information. We definitely live in a new era now.

I wish Toyota would bring in a limited number of spares to support my Levin program... oh they do. http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Bob Holdens cars never looked that good paintwork wise, plus the unfortunate name of "HOLDEN" on them somewhere. I would pay maybe $100 to get the "ADM" ID plate which would let you run in a historic race every 10 or so years. The car itself is a list of missing parts.

letsgohunting
26th May 2007, 12:54 PM
argh I really dont like seeing that car like that.... How could someone let something like that get so knackered?

You'll find cars like that have a certain character or... personality to them... Theres always something abotu them different to your run of the mill grandmas car.

Love to see it restored to original grp A specs.

Dori86
27th May 2007, 12:30 AM
piece of 86 history there, shame its been raped

hilux08
27th May 2007, 02:25 AM
would be nice to restore it but doubt it. imagine how twisted that thing must be rallying etc. 20g's stuf that cost u more than that on top to restore it even if u can.

slide86
27th May 2007, 03:20 AM
so that blue "thing" in the photos is equiped with that list of mods???

or am i not reading correctly?

i see it has SA plates. where in SA i wonder?

SEXY 16
29th May 2007, 04:18 PM
in 2002 mark haybiddle that owns the rally experiance offered me that car for 4k and i turned it down
half the parts were not there and he could not show me them
i hope the owner got them all with the car

dr1ft-pig
29th May 2007, 05:00 PM
that thing has a mad cage n shit looks not "too" bad from what i can see in the pics, sure has some great history though, as other have said id love to see it build back to bathurst spec

floody31
29th May 2007, 05:27 PM
Well, for historics racing it has to be an original car/logbook ; in that sense it would be worth buying and restoring as theres a limited number of Group A cars and there will never be any more. I predict in a few years group A historics will be quite a big category.
I don't think its as bad as it looks either. IMO thats quite restorable.

ghetto ke
29th May 2007, 06:38 PM
or you could get this... at least it still drives

http://www.my105.com/classified.asp?id=7075

mike86
29th May 2007, 06:53 PM
wasnt that one advertised in the cars for sale section here