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HYPNTK
22nd June 2007, 06:09 PM
as many of you may already know i'm doing a 20v conversion and its going at lightning speed (sarcasm)

my mechanic who's wiring up the whole thing and tuning it said my heater core is stuffed coz i bashed the firewall to fit my 20v (please everyone i know i could have done the job without bashing my firewall but it was my easiest and cheapest option at the time and its done now)

he can't fix this heater core and said if i want to have a heater then i need to take him another core so he can modify or whatever to suit.


i dunno where this thing is (i'm assuming its behind the firewall) and how hard it would be for me to fix it myself, in other words i hope it doesn't mean i have to take out my whole engine again...anyway...let me know what you guys think or know about this sort of thing coz its so freekin cold in melbourne recently i can't NOT have a heater no matter how many jackets i wear.

mc68
22nd June 2007, 06:12 PM
its way up under the dash, c**t of a job it is to get out http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

good luck.

HYPNTK
22nd June 2007, 06:15 PM
its way up under the dash, c**t of a job it is to get out http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/emoticons/tongue.gif

good luck.[/b]

bah, thats great news...anyone wanna sell me one or know of one i can buy from wreckers to swap over from another car?

dori_86
22nd June 2007, 06:16 PM
yeah mine shat it self (ie started to leak into the cabin) so i just bi-passed it, so now i wear hoodies in winter, i'll eventually get round to pulling it out

dr1ft-pig
22nd June 2007, 06:31 PM
dont you have to have it for roadworthy????

Gilly
22nd June 2007, 06:56 PM
if you bashed your firewall and it damaged the core another stock one isn't going to fit.

HYPNTK
22nd June 2007, 07:58 PM
dont you have to have it for roadworthy????[/b]

my car is registered already so i'm ok for the time being to get driving



if you bashed your firewall and it damaged the core another stock one isn't going to fit.[/b]

yeah i think thats why the mechanic said to bring him another core (not particularly a stock one) so he can modify it to fit but that sounds a bit hard and costly...perhaps i can do it myself...i've never looked at one...so please tell me i don't have to remove my whole dash

ae71neo
22nd June 2007, 08:09 PM
yeah mine shat it self (ie started to leak into the cabin) so i just bi-passed it, so now i wear hoodies in winter, i'll eventually get round to pulling it out[/b]


Exactly the same with me haha!

Javal
23rd June 2007, 01:07 AM
Beanie FTW!

Shiri
23rd June 2007, 10:22 AM
You still realise that despite putting a 4A engine block in that your car is going to be able to be defected and unregistered right? You at some point (If you are doing this legally) are going to have to get your car engineered with the 20V, not to mention the likely scenario of being defected and having to produce a RWC. Not having a heater box is going to make this impossible... the main problem is that your demister isn't going to operate. Not to mentoin the fact you've hit back your firewall which will also fail all engineering and RWC's.

But now that that's been established you need to work our if your heaterbox is still infact working or if you've actually damaged it beyond repair. I do know that you don't have to hit your firewall back too far to fit the dizzy of the 20v so best case scenario is that you've only bent the plastic housing of the heaterbox, rather than damage the system. Once you've worked out if the system is still working then you can look at your options. Worst case is that you have damaged the piping and the box itself. Your only only alernative in that case would be to hit up the wrecking yard and find a smaller heaterbox from a smaller car which will fit in place of your old box and be able to be bolted in someway. Measure out how much room you exactly have from where your box lies from pipe to pipe and you'll find something suitable.

Your going to want a heater... especially with Melbournes whether atm...

Don't post topics in caps either.

Good luck

albertos
23rd June 2007, 09:00 PM
just get a small hairdryer or heater seal it up so its blowing through the demister and wire it into your demister switch,thats how i roll

HYPNTK
23rd June 2007, 09:25 PM
ShiRi thanks for your insight buddy but in future...do me a favour. When you see the nickname HYPNTK ask a question...don't reply coz i don't rate your opinion at all.

albertos
23rd June 2007, 09:55 PM
u can also by pupose built electric heaters/demister on ebay $40 aus

HYPNTK
23rd June 2007, 10:02 PM
u can also by pupose built electric heaters/demister on ebay $40 aus[/b]

hey thats an idea, thanks dude

Shiri
24th June 2007, 12:05 AM
Haha I love this forum

Bustin_86
24th June 2007, 12:12 AM
What the hell?

Shiri answered your question quite comprehensively man. You should be thanking him not being all standoffish.

I think there are a few threads in the tech section about alternative demister setups, ill have a search for you....

Shiri
24th June 2007, 12:28 AM
Don't bother Bustin... You can't lead the blind...

He may not value my opinion, but at least the next person who needs help with this problem will find this thread and take it on board... isn't that why people visit forums anyway?

Bustin_86
24th June 2007, 12:34 AM
That's about it Shiri. Good on you for sticking out the haters hey.

Would a larger displacement/cylinder car have a smaller heater box then a smaller displacement/cylinder car? Or would this just be a generalisation?

Would be a good idea to start having a look at smaller cars for a smaller heater box i suppose.

Shiri
24th June 2007, 12:52 AM
If anyone actually cares...

The box size is depends on the core size. The core on a 92 Honda Civic is around 8" x 5" x 2" where as the core on a Commodore can be as large as 12" across and 8" high (edited for more accuracy). Smaller displacment cars obviouly have less heat to disperse and such doesn't need such a large core and therefor larger box. The AE86 box size is very small already... You MIGHT be able to get away with adapting a heater core from a smaller car (From something like a Daihatsu Mica or something) into the exsiting box if it's undamaged

Dunno why I'm trying to offer some options still lol... Thank you sir may I have another

mc68
24th June 2007, 01:02 AM
ShiRi thanks for your insight buddy but in future...do me a favour. When you see the nickname HYPNTK ask a question...don't reply coz i don't rate your opinion at all.[/b]


hahaha, you're such a tool.

HYPNTK
24th June 2007, 02:46 AM
You still realise that despite putting a 4A engine block in that your car is going to be able to be defected and unregistered right? You at some point (If you are doing this legally) are going to have to get your car engineered with the 20V, not to mention the likely scenario of being defected and having to produce a RWC. Not having a heater box is going to make this impossible... the main problem is that your demister isn't going to operate. Not to mentoin the fact you've hit back your firewall which will also fail all engineering and RWC's.



Don't post topics in caps either.

Good luck[/b]

the help about the actual heater core offered by ShiRi was very much appreciated because thats what i asked for and not a lecture about engineering and legality let alone forum rules...that in particular is for the mods...i hate pricks who deviate from the topic and want to make themselves heard as well as giving advice, don't expect any thank you if you give advice only to shoot that person down in another way...i was nice about it and said thank you and told him not to go to the trouble of giving me help ever again because if i offer help to someone i don't talk to them like a piece of shit right after or during to belittle them...now get over it and don't be surprised if you get flamed again when you lecture someone off-topic



What the hell?

Shiri answered your question quite comprehensively man. You should be thanking him not being all standoffish.

I think there are a few threads in the tech section about alternative demister setups, ill have a search for you....[/b]
i know what you're saying man but read above^^^




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ShiRi thanks for your insight buddy but in future...do me a favour. When you see the nickname HYPNTK ask a question...don't reply coz i don't rate your opinion at all.[/b]


hahaha, you're such a tool.
[/b]

and you can suck my fat one for having that opinion

Shiri
24th June 2007, 04:33 AM
So your the post police now? Just cause you made the thread doesn't make you high and mighty in regards to controlling it. Now you posted about your car having a BASHED FIREWALL... my suggestions have to take this in mind, and as such the ideas posted by some idiotic members of this forum to drive with a hairdryer or run your car without a heater are NOT solutions... they are illegal and dangerous attitudes and behaviour. So with all that in mind, It is my obligation to remind you, because I do believe you are aware of all the legal issues, that this behavior is not what this forum or anyone in the public condones
Case in point:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ShiRi)</div>
You still realise that despite putting a 4A engine block in that your car is going to be able to be defected and unregistered right?[/b]
Fine... It may of SOUNDED like (If you are a complete idiot and ignore the rest of my paragraph) that I was 'deviating' from the issue of your heaterbox... but I worded it this way to remind you (Since you carelessly stated that your car was already registered so RWC's wern't a problem, and people were offering unhelpful solutions) that your car will undergo attention due to your engine upgrade, and as such the heater core issues are going to come up. I certainly never 'shot you down'.

Regulating the forums is as much the responsiblity of the users of the forum as well as the moderators... learn to show some maturity.

So if you want to continue to look at your problems with tunnel vision your AE86 project will not succeed... And I say that from having done exactly that. If you don't want the advice of someone who has gone through your EXACT problem, been in your EXACT situation, and found ou first hand what happens down the road... fine. If that's the case, It would be hypocritcal of you to ever ask for anyones help on this forum again.

I gave you the best answer you got, and you thumbed your nose at it, and everyone on this forum and everyone you share the road with by saying you don't care about anything other than finding a way around your heaterbox. I can only hope that this whole thread, including these posts help you more than my heater box suggestions... because a broken attitude is much worse than a broken car part.

Grow up

ae71neo
24th June 2007, 11:19 AM
Can't we all just get along? :(

albertos
24th June 2007, 11:54 AM
shiri your a tool

rthy
24th June 2007, 12:03 PM
shiri has done the convo b4 so he knows whats its like to do a 20v convo, must have been hard to give up that tigermica ae86? or not really?























mmm mica...
http://www.micaroberts.com/

jdmcoupe
24th June 2007, 03:35 PM
thread closing, shit storms are starting...

Shiri hit it on the spot, both with engineering and the heater box.... HYPTNK you just sound to arrogant to take ppls knowledegable advice..... u will soon learn ur lesson.. sounds like school holidays time....