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shorty
27th August 2007, 11:11 PM
hey all

i finially got my 4agze for my sprinter and its looking awesome! :2thumbs:

ive currently chucked in a mini spooled t-18 diff, so i have that outta the way


just wondering what is a good 5 speed gear box i can use? as im using a turbo and would expect the 4ac box 2 shit itself no time

i've been told supra w58's are good but was just wondering what else i could use as these are pigs 2 find, and what i have 2 do

also heard celica box's r good 2 n lux gear box's but arent overly keen on the lux

and help on what to do and where to get it from would be appreciated :grinner:

im in adelaide btw

thanx

Jarryd

dr1ft-pig
27th August 2007, 11:54 PM
look around all import wreckers websites, i had the number for a guy in qld who hoards w58s, they go for 1200 reco

good box though, i have 1 myself

ae71
28th August 2007, 01:38 AM
w55's are also very simerla to w58's and you can find them, biggest problem is finding a custom bellhousing.

also you do realise the the '4ac box' is t-50, basicly the same as what came in the jdm 86's. they will cop a fair bit of punishment from a 4age. if your sensible (aviod drag launchs) and have a resonable condition t-50 then it should last a while. just depends how you treat it. im yet to actually know personaly of anyone braking a t-50 (yes im sure there are plenty that have been).

dr1ft-pig
28th August 2007, 01:51 AM
i broke 2nd gear with stock jdm 4age (jdm t50) crappy box IMO

not hard to find custom bellhousing, u pay through the ass for em but, and getting a clutch is easy, just see dave at AJPS he knows all the right part numbers for a clutch to mate any 4age to any w series gearbox and good price too

ae71
28th August 2007, 02:49 AM
a mate of mine had a small port and the box outlasted the motor (drifting....)

also a slightly diffrent version of t-50, i and a few others had a t-18 paddock basher that we rallyed the shit out of and broke the t-series :angry:

box didnt brake but it would jump out of second if you clutch kicked it too much :lol:

Robo86
28th August 2007, 09:55 AM
basically to my understanding u need this:

w58 gearbox
gearbox crossmember
clutch
custom w58 bellhousing
1 peice tailshaft

awesome box behind 4ag(z,t)e will take a thrashing and is good for well over 200rwkw

around 3-4k for conversion?

86xxx
28th August 2007, 09:58 AM
Any w series box (with the exception of the later w58 with the steel sandwich plate) should be of the same strength.

Hilux boxes, W57 (checked with toyota) are actually rumoured to be slightly stronger, using bigger bearings.

W58's are most commonly used, they were found in many 80's models toyota's, corona's, celica's, supra's, the list goes on.

ae71
28th August 2007, 05:21 PM
actual w58 was only in the supra (correct me if im wrong) most of the others are w55 etc, as you have stated just as strong

Hen is a total nutcase
28th August 2007, 06:15 PM
Nope, W58 came in a bunch of things.

MA61
RT142
GZ20

from personal experience. There are definitely more that I'm unaware of too.

ae71
28th August 2007, 07:07 PM
ok, my mistake.

but W55 are alot more common and cheaper, i was offered one a while back, kicking myself for not taking it.

from my personal experience these are tough.

shorty
29th August 2007, 09:59 PM
thanx for all the help guys

wow 3-4 grand for a good gearbox set up? :blink:

thats fair expensive, i may have to wait n save up

i thought it was just fucking around with a clutch and bellhousing setup.

while im here

i got a polished alloy radiator off ebay (secret price) ;) and my mechanic doesnt seem 2 think it'll fit?

it was FOR A ae86 though

wat else is good?

i heard camry radiators r good on 4age/ze's etc

AND finiallly does any body have engine mounts 4 a 4agze in adelaide?

thanks guys! :2thumbs:

Jarryd

sus10
29th August 2007, 11:04 PM
just chuck in a t50 and dont slam 1st into 2nd.. :2thumbs:
t50 = light weight, bolt in. cheep to replace..

just my 2cents!!

86xxx
30th August 2007, 10:26 AM
actual w58 was only in the supra (correct me if im wrong) most of the others are w55 etc, as you have stated just as strong[/b]

Yeah sorry Aaron but wrong, as said came in a bunch of cars, 80's celicas, supra's, coronas, there is alot about them on wikipedia or whatever it is!!

ae71
30th August 2007, 01:38 PM
yeah my mistake :rolleyes:

what was that really tough box that came behind the 1j supras and maybe the 2j jxa80 non turbo (5speed not GETRAG 6speed)

thats what you should put behind your 3s jessy a 6speed ;) hell will freeze over beofer you break that.. GETRAG box's are tough muthers

Hen is a total nutcase
30th August 2007, 02:23 PM
W58 = "Supra box" as discussed above, plus came from NA JZA80
R154 = "Supra turbo box" behind all manual 7MGTEs and 1JZGTEs. Bigger, pretty strong.
V160 = JZA80 twin turbo six speed. Massive, strong.
J160 = IS200 6 speed box. Not so big, not so strong. Same/similar to MX5, RX8 and S15 box according to internet knowledge.