Engine conversions

[rich_86]

what have you got and how well does it work and how much it set u back all up???? cheers

[Fozz]

what have you got and how well does it work and how much it set u back all up???? cheers[/b]

Mine aint in yet but im doin a 4age conversion into a te71 im have way through it and ive found its pretty easy to install all together it has set me back bout $1500

[hachirusto]

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/board/in...ic=185&st=0 (http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/board/index.php?showtopic=185&st=0)

one is already up

[rthy]

20v, its worn out bad, blows smoke, efi has a problem and it still makes my friends 100kw corolla look slow as. I love it

[rich_86]

was looking for some more unconventional conversions

[Fozz]

was looking for some more unconventional conversions[/b]

ferrari enzo motor into ae86 :lol:

[rich_86]

bit too much don have that kinda money for an 86 conversion...unless nup got nothin

[hachirusto]

unconventional / less common engine conversion that have been done in oz

1uzfe
1ggte
1jzgte
4g36 or what ever that evo engine is , there was a guy on here ages back that was doing this but not sure if it got completed
4acT
3tgte, not sure if this has been done , but would be possible by changing cross member or different engine mounts
18rgeu
3sgte
3sge

as apposed to conventional
4age/gze/gte + 20v silver/black
ca18det
sr20det
4ac

[Fozz]

oh yer i think josh young has a 1uzfe in his sprinter u should do that his car is hot :wub:

[rthy]

well its looks to be that I will have only 4a/F hybrid in a sprinter in the next 2 years if all goes to plan.

[86xxx]

3sgte.... I hope the cost will be worth it. Of course it could be done cheaper, i got a bit excited and spent way, way too much on it. I would think could prob do it for under $6k or so, the cheap and nasty way as opposed to the brand new everything super clean method.

Not much more weight than 4age (not sure on exact figures but very close to equal...) and about 3x the power... :P

[rich_86]

anyone one done anything lik 12a 13b 20b or any of the j series in oz yet

[86xxx]

anyone one done anything lik 12a 13b 20b or any of the j series in oz yet[/b]

13b been done a few times, please dont do it, dont spoil a great car by cross breeding! Toyota has many good engines, really i dont think you can beat the 4agte conversion atm, easy conversion, good useable power. I'll be building one next...

[rich_86]

i have 2 86s one will be kept complete orig the other watever i feel like doin to it pretty much....but want somethin with more torque then a 1.6 L is fun but jus want somethin stupid...thats all

[86xxx]

i have 2 86s one will be kept complete orig the other watever i feel like doin to it pretty much....but want somethin with more torque then a 1.6 L is fun but jus want somethin stupid...thats all[/b]

3sgte is your friend for torque! More than the nissan equivilant (sr20) and a more proved for reliability and performance than an sr. SR's have potential, but you've gotta spend alot and they need alot to bring them up to a reliable standard.

[Andor]

I dont see the big deal with 'crossbreeding'. An engine is an engine, if it suits the purpose then go for it. Many toyota engines are more difficult and expensive to put in an ae86 than a ca18, sr20 or 13b. I hope to put a ca18det in mine next year, $ to power I think it is the best value.

[rthy]

I tottaly agree with andor, the only reason why people thinking cross breeding is bad is because of emotional hangups.

I may not like some of the design features of a CA18 but I know it is the cheapest bang for buck option out there

I think an 86 and a 13b renesis engine are made to be together, and only the cost and the fuel economy stops me doing it.

[awang]

I dont see the big deal with 'crossbreeding'. An engine is an engine, if it suits the purpose then go for it. Many toyota engines are more difficult and expensive to put in an ae86 than a ca18, sr20 or 13b. I hope to put a ca18det in mine next year, $ to power I think it is the best value.[/b]

couldnt agree more

[Fozz]

has anyone here used a t series motor i havent found anyone here with one but they seem a popular conversion on rollaclub

2tgeu
3tgte
4tgte

[rthy]

they getting on in age now though, and some of them seem to have some reliabitiy issues

[Javal]

has anyone here used a t series motor i havent found anyone here with one but they seem a popular conversion on rollaclub

2tgeu
3tgte
4tgte[/b]


I will get naked in public (not saying that it hasn't been done before ;) ) if you actually get your hands on a 4TGTE.

2.1L Rally specials, they are race motors and most of them are dead now.

the problem with doing T motor conversions is that the crossmember to suit a A series chassis doesn't have a steering rack, meaning you either have to make up some custom engine mounts to fit the T motor on to a K / A motor crossmember.

HOWEVER.

One person i know has done it without making custom mounts, just mixing and matching of mounts.

But the main reason people don't do T motor swaps is because:

a ) they are heavier than an A motor
b ) they are older than an A motor
c ) they are all only 8 valve
d ) it is alot easier to put an A motor in

That said i have a soft spot for the 3TGTE.

[rundown]

sr 86 reliable,fun n enough power to get silly

[Javal]

sr 86 reliable,fun n enough power to get silly[/b]

You still have to deal with it sounding like a sack of crap,

And all the anti crossbreeding haters

And the custom engine mounting

And the custom gearbox mounting

And the diff upgrades

And the wiring hassles

And the cost of an aftermarket ECU

And the cost of the whole conversion, come to think of it.

Can you tell i'm not a fan of SRs?

[slide86]

the only thing better than putting an SR in a 86

is

putting an ATMO SR in an 86

:rolleyes:

[Javal]

the only thing better than putting an SR in a 86

is

putting an ATMO SR in an 86

:rolleyes:[/b]


:huh:











:lol:

[aleksau]

I just started 13B conversion KE70 though :P

Can make stupid amounts of power for <900kg car. Its small, light and different..... suits the car nicely

[rich_86]

i am still keen on a 1jz conversion jus for my daily leave it stock and it should be able to take all the thrashin i can give it for quite a while...i dont have any probs with crossbreading if it works better and is cheaper why not...has anyone watcvhed the 20b ae86 on youtube insane...

[slide86]

1jz in a E series car? is that what your daily is?

[Delazy]

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i have 2 86s one will be kept complete orig the other watever i feel like doin to it pretty much....but want somethin with more torque then a 1.6 L is fun but jus want somethin stupid...thats all[/b]

3sgte is your friend for torque! More than the nissan equivilant (sr20) and a more proved for reliability and performance than an sr. SR's have potential, but you've gotta spend alot and they need alot to bring them up to a reliable standard.
[/b]

wanna explain that?

proven more reliable?? will ur car cop a caining weekly running 21psi, smashed off the limiter, drifted pretty much every event and running about 270rwkw for 18months and still going??

i disagree a rather lot....sr20 would be one of the more reliable engines...the only real problem is the rocker arms which can be fixed with a simple $60 mod

in saying that, i prolly wouldn't put one into a sprinter considering the work u have to do...if i chose to go turbo route it would be a 4agte...even tho im madly in love with mcnamara and hibino's cars

[LAZY]

i have done, mitsubishi 2.4ltr van bloke, evo crank de-stroked to 2.1ltr with evo twin cam head, bigger cams, garrett 3076r in ae86.

Rev up to 10,500 rpm.

Could not be engineered due to engine size. oh well I will be back. There is a way around this

P.s. Limited black trueno is getting closer to our shores.

[LAZY]

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i have 2 86s one will be kept complete orig the other watever i feel like doin to it pretty much....but want somethin with more torque then a 1.6 L is fun but jus want somethin stupid...thats all[/b]

3sgte is your friend for torque! More than the nissan equivilant (sr20) and a more proved for reliability and performance than an sr. SR's have potential, but you've gotta spend alot and they need alot to bring them up to a reliable standard.
[/b]

wanna explain that?

proven more reliable?? will ur car cop a caining weekly running 21psi, smashed off the limiter, drifted pretty much every event and running about 270rwkw for 18months and still going??

i disagree a rather lot....sr20 would be one of the more reliable engines...the only real problem is the rocker arms which can be fixed with a simple $60 mod

in saying that, i prolly wouldn't put one into a sprinter considering the work u have to do...if i chose to go turbo route it would be a 4agte...even tho im madly in love with mcnamara and hibino's cars
[/b]

No offence but I have seen this way to many times, the cost of turbo, ecu cams etc on 4ag is pointless.
It is not that hard to throw in sr20det on to ae86.

Do some welding classes, all you need is engine mounts, custom exhaust and engine, intercooler and radiator piping. The rest of expenses will be same as you were modding a 4ag. Ecu, engine wiring, turbo, etc. same same same.


3sgte, lol, a pain and expensive, a lot more expensive. Funny how people state things with no fucking idea.

I wonder what people are going to think of me when they see ls2 engine in a limited late black model trueno lol.

[Delazy]

<{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=426831)

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Rich_86 @ Oct 26 2007, 04:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=426297)<div class='quotemain'>i have 2 86s one will be kept complete orig the other watever i feel like doin to it pretty much....but want somethin with more torque then a 1.6 L is fun but jus want somethin stupid...thats all[/b]

3sgte is your friend for torque! More than the nissan equivilant (sr20) and a more proved for reliability and performance than an sr. SR's have potential, but you've gotta spend alot and they need alot to bring them up to a reliable standard.
[/b]

wanna explain that?

proven more reliable?? will ur car cop a caining weekly running 21psi, smashed off the limiter, drifted pretty much every event and running about 270rwkw for 18months and still going??

i disagree a rather lot....sr20 would be one of the more reliable engines...the only real problem is the rocker arms which can be fixed with a simple $60 mod

in saying that, i prolly wouldn't put one into a sprinter considering the work u have to do...if i chose to go turbo route it would be a 4agte...even tho im madly in love with mcnamara and hibino's cars
[/b][/quote]

No offence but I have seen this way to many times, the cost of turbo, ecu cams etc on 4ag is pointless.
It is not that hard to throw in sr20det on to ae86.

Do some welding classes, all you need is engine mounts, custom exhaust and engine, intercooler and radiator piping. The rest of expenses will be same as you were modding a 4ag. Ecu, engine wiring, turbo, etc. same same same.


3sgte, lol, a pain and expensive, a lot more expensive. Funny how people state things with no fucking idea.

I wonder what people are going to think of me when they see ls2 engine in a limited late black model trueno lol.
[/b][/quote]

my reasoning for not going a SR20 isnt because of the amount of work...more being one of those wanker toyota pureists....

[LAZY]

ok, its always good to be honest with yourself, not there is nothing wrong with toyota. If only money came in trees...

[ke70kid86]

the sr20 is a great reliable engine, but when you throw a nissan engine into a toyota, or convert any engine into a different make car for that matter, you kind of loose abit of yourself. but in saying that, most of the time its done for skid rigs and what not, so it dont matter whats in them aslong as they perform as you want them to. there like our bitches, all give, give, give and then you open your wallet and you see there taking as well <_< lol

but i have to say you dont need more then what a 4agte can make, 180rwkw is plenty for a ae86, and it still has room to go for more with a 4agte, and making that power with a 1.6litre does have alittle bit of the 'X' factor in it. esp. when you outperform alot of the bigger engines on circut+drift work. because why would you build an ae86 for drag anyway. if you know what your doing you can easily make that power with minimal lag.

cheers, issa.

[riojin]

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i have 2 86s one will be kept complete orig the other watever i feel like doin to it pretty much....but want somethin with more torque then a 1.6 L is fun but jus want somethin stupid...thats all[/b]

3sgte is your friend for torque! More than the nissan equivilant (sr20) and a more proved for reliability and performance than an sr. SR's have potential, but you've gotta spend alot and they need alot to bring them up to a reliable standard.
[/b][/quote]

wanna explain that?

proven more reliable?? will ur car cop a caining weekly running 21psi, smashed off the limiter, drifted pretty much every event and running about 270rwkw for 18months and still going??

i disagree a rather lot....sr20 would be one of the more reliable engines...the only real problem is the rocker arms which can be fixed with a simple $60 mod

in saying that, i prolly wouldn't put one into a sprinter considering the work u have to do...if i chose to go turbo route it would be a 4agte...even tho im madly in love with mcnamara and hibino's cars
[/b][/quote]

No offence but I have seen this way to many times, the cost of turbo, ecu cams etc on 4ag is pointless.
It is not that hard to throw in sr20det on to ae86.

Do some welding classes, all you need is engine mounts, custom exhaust and engine, intercooler and radiator piping. The rest of expenses will be same as you were modding a 4ag. Ecu, engine wiring, turbo, etc. same same same.


3sgte, lol, a pain and expensive, a lot more expensive. Funny how people state things with no fucking idea.

I wonder what people are going to think of me when they see ls2 engine in a limited late black model trueno lol.
[/b][/quote]


ls2, as in 6L gen 4? if so i hope your joking

[Dvious]

Not sure what car it was and really cant remember but someone put a land rover v8 engine into some small japanese car, not sure if it was a s1 rx7 but i remember it being really pointless, it was on carsales which is much as i can remember.

[Javal]

This thread stinks of opinionated, noob, and fail.

Putting an LS2 in an AE86 is not a waste of time, however some would consider it a blasphemous act in doing so.

Make your power the way you want to.

IN for locking this thread.

:lock::lock::lock:

[LAZY]

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i have 2 86s one will be kept complete orig the other watever i feel like doin to it pretty much....but want somethin with more torque then a 1.6 L is fun but jus want somethin stupid...thats all[/b]

3sgte is your friend for torque! More than the nissan equivilant (sr20) and a more proved for reliability and performance than an sr. SR's have potential, but you've gotta spend alot and they need alot to bring them up to a reliable standard.
[/b][/quote]

wanna explain that?

proven more reliable?? will ur car cop a caining weekly running 21psi, smashed off the limiter, drifted pretty much every event and running about 270rwkw for 18months and still going??

i disagree a rather lot....sr20 would be one of the more reliable engines...the only real problem is the rocker arms which can be fixed with a simple $60 mod

in saying that, i prolly wouldn't put one into a sprinter considering the work u have to do...if i chose to go turbo route it would be a 4agte...even tho im madly in love with mcnamara and hibino's cars
[/b][/quote]

No offence but I have seen this way to many times, the cost of turbo, ecu cams etc on 4ag is pointless.
It is not that hard to throw in sr20det on to ae86.

Do some welding classes, all you need is engine mounts, custom exhaust and engine, intercooler and radiator piping. The rest of expenses will be same as you were modding a 4ag. Ecu, engine wiring, turbo, etc. same same same.


3sgte, lol, a pain and expensive, a lot more expensive. Funny how people state things with no fucking idea.

I wonder what people are going to think of me when they see ls2 engine in a limited late black model trueno lol.
[/b][/quote]


ls2, as in 6L gen 4? if so i hope your joking
[/b][/quote]

Nah, 7lt

[LAZY]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Javal @ Oct 28 2007, 06:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=427251)</div>
This thread stinks of opinionated, noob, and fail.

Putting an LS2 in an AE86 is not a waste of time, however some would consider it a blasphemous act in doing so.

Make your power the way you want to.

IN for locking this thread.

:lock::lock::lock:[/b]

lol

blasphemous act????

[fixeruperer]

7 ltr is ls7
aka 427
i doubt your gonna put a $18k crate motor in a $2k body

[LAZY]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (fixeruperer @ Oct 28 2007, 08:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=427324)</div>
7 ltr is ls7
aka 427
i doubt your gonna put a $18k crate motor in a $2k body[/b]

I believe that they wosto be called ls7 but changed to ls2 :blink:

[LAZY]

nah, 6ltr lol

[fixeruperer]

you can get brand new ls2 (6lt) in box for $6k.
cheeeep just use the delco ecu cheeeeep again.

or just supercharge a 5.7 cheeeeeeepeeer.

[biggo]

3sfe :)

[fixeruperer]

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3sfe[/b]
come on thats a bit over the top.

[slide86]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (fixeruperer @ Oct 28 2007, 07:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=427339)</div>
you can get brand new ls2 (6lt) in box for $6k.
cheeeep just use the delco ecu cheeeeep again.

or just supercharge a 5.7 cheeeeeeepeeer.[/b]


i priced a ls2 at work on friday for a cop car.......they arent 6 grand.....more like 9 for a crate motor.

[ke70kid86]

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (fixeruperer @ Oct 28 2007, 07:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=427339)
you can get brand new ls2 (6lt) in box for $6k.
cheeeep just use the delco ecu cheeeeep again.

or just supercharge a 5.7 cheeeeeeepeeer.[/b]


i priced a ls2 at work on friday for a cop car.......they arent 6 grand.....more like 9 for a crate motor.
[/b][/quote]
wow...

i thought cops only had ls1's.

when did they start getting ls2's?

[Javal]

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (fixeruperer @ Oct 28 2007, 07:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=427339)
you can get brand new ls2 (6lt) in box for $6k.
cheeeep just use the delco ecu cheeeeep again.

or just supercharge a 5.7 cheeeeeeepeeer.[/b]


i priced a ls2 at work on friday for a cop car.......they arent 6 grand.....more like 9 for a crate motor.
[/b][/quote]
wow...

i thought cops only had ls1's.

when did they start getting ls2's?
[/b][/quote]

When they released the VZ commo, which is what most of the pursuit cars are.

[fixeruperer]

yeh i can get them for that $6k
and about $2500 for a 6 speed brand new.

[stefan]

big money!

just keep with toyota and use the quad cam V8 and turbo it or get quads

mmm drifting in 7th gear with overdrive! highway dori lol

[Benno]

CA18DET :pokes: