View Full Version : dumb, dodgy or straight up stupid mods
rich_86
1st November 2007, 09:16 PM
pretty much jus interested to hear wat ppl have come across after they have bought the 86, 71, ke etc or seen ppl do a heard bout....mine would be finding out that after i bought mine there was only 1 yes only one bolt and no nut holding the diff on the drivers side shock was jus hanging yea wtf???, ae82 pressure plate come on not that expensive for a real 86 one, the thermostat has the insides smashed out, the wiring is reasonable at best, gearbox to engine brace not bolted to engine, no o2 sensor, only 2 exhaust o-rings holdin it on, ill fiting radiator hoses, hole in my floorpan(WTF weird weight reduction maybe??) random incorrect length spark plug leads, feul tank leak fixed wit silicone, you dont want to see how the fuel system had the hoses connected jus suprised they didnt come apart yea thats all i have found so far so car is being dismantled at xmas to find out wat else is missing or fkd up so yea can you beat that????
rthy
1st November 2007, 09:41 PM
people putting pop rivets in the body to "brace it". Or fitting a strut brace with thick and heavy steel ends and then have not only a flimsy aluminium bar between them but also a curved one.
rich_86
1st November 2007, 09:45 PM
funny bout the rivets im getting it stitch welded now talked to some race prep ppl and yea thats teh way im heading now with it
rthy
1st November 2007, 09:46 PM
yeah seems to be a proven thing
rich_86
1st November 2007, 09:49 PM
and decent custom made roll cage goin in to
LAZY
1st November 2007, 09:50 PM
my old 86 had bog over rust, and a overspray to make things look new for 8 months.
rthy
1st November 2007, 10:03 PM
why do I get the feeling this thread will going for quite a long time
Fozz
1st November 2007, 10:08 PM
does this include stupid mods we did to our own cars cause when the clutch fan broke on mine i swithced the fan backwards but it rubbed against my radiator and yer it was shit didnt work :lol:
Gilly
1st November 2007, 10:09 PM
your engine conversion was performed by Ken Streeter, enough said
Leigh
1st November 2007, 10:31 PM
I've got rust problems like i never knew the reason being the guy who had the car before me cut the rust out with a grinder
(wouldn't be surprised if he just hit it with a hammer to get most of it off) and then used a combination of galv sheet metal rivets and bog to "fix it up" and pressure pack blue to make it all the same colour----blue is blue but they sure as hell ain't the same blue!!!!
I guess thats not as bad as some of the dumb things I've done since buying it
cut springs with grinder
spray painted the bottom half black when I pulled off the bump strips on the doors (along with paint and bog and a little rust)
and the whole S13 front end with non adjustable coil overs I was in bump steer heaven (changed it back now just a shame all the oil has leaked out of y front shocks!!
Leigh
obey wan boenny
1st November 2007, 10:59 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gilly @ Nov 1 2007, 09:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=429802)</div>
your engine conversion was performed by Ken Streeter, enough said[/b]
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA :lol:
ae86hachiroku
1st November 2007, 11:00 PM
rivets are a cheap effective way to stiffen the chassis. ask matt-ae86 he has done this to most of the car and difference was definately obvious.
rthy
1st November 2007, 11:03 PM
yeah for how long though?
HRV-00S
1st November 2007, 11:05 PM
I was the lucky customer who brought the 4AGTE wagon that was kicking around here a while ago. Brought it from Melbourne, drove it home to Sydney and it never missed a beat, apart from one of the mismatched rear shocks dieing half way home.
After about a week it started randomly puffing out large amounts of the bluish white smoke you get when your rings are f@#ked. So I started to strip the motor to find the radiator held in with zip ties. Then there was the wiring that just fell apart because it was twisted together and taped with that clear stuff that wont even stick to it's self. The main loom for the ecu was feed through a hole in the firewall that looks to have been cut with a grinder and a piece of plastic screwed over the top, currently in work shop getting re-wired. (the TPS was reading like a tacho?) Then there was the rust, both rear wheel arches, lower sections of the rear quarters after the wheel arch and under the bumper, both c pillars. Both rear quarters where mostly bog that had started to crack, so I ground it all out removed rust and re-repaired the damage. Theres prolly lots more that I can't think of but my fingers sore anyway (I type with one finger)
If it wasn't a Toyota I would have burned it by know :rant:
Cheers Harvo
Konakid
1st November 2007, 11:06 PM
Was checking out the underside of the ajps supra today and the whole thing has been riveted, strut towers, chassis rails, everything. Given it hasnt had rego for 12 years id bet on them being done some time ago so they must have some longevity. Maybe the idea is to use big rivets or high quality/stronger ones? Who knows....
Felix
1st November 2007, 11:08 PM
my car was perfect until i got to winter and now it starts like a bitch
stupid ecu lol
oh well, im still stoked with it
hatzo
1st November 2007, 11:10 PM
My mate did this to his r33 skyline...
rear coil overs only , (standard front suspension)
Installing a GTR strut brace. Didn't fit very well :lol:
AEE86
1st November 2007, 11:51 PM
When i picked up my car i immediately drove it back home (about 750km!). I got back ok, but when I went over the car later i found the drivers seat was screwed to the floor with wood screws and a piece of 4x2 as a base. If that wasn't scary enough i had a stuffed master cylinder and booster ie screwed brakes, the indicater stalk snapped off on the way, no horn, no washers, no stereo, and i had no high beams. The rear bottomed out over most bumps. The diff whined like a bitch and there was a constant petrol smell in the cabin. I was glad when i got home albeit with a splitting headache. At least its all fixed now..
GAKI86
2nd November 2007, 12:51 AM
when i bought my first 4age ae86 it had a massive surge tank hanging by a small sized zip tie..
turning right you would hear the tank clunking againts the engine bay wall..
Micknofx
2nd November 2007, 08:10 AM
I had my fuel pump mounted in my engine bay, was done to finish a conversion quickly... didn't leave it setup like that long though for the obvious reasons...
DRFTPG
2nd November 2007, 09:21 AM
i heard a story where a guy owned a mini and to get passengers in the back seat he had no bolts in the front passenger side seat, so they would just lift it out get in the back and then put it back in!! Extremely dangerous!! would hate to have had a crash in it
orido
2nd November 2007, 09:29 AM
rust plugged with wood putty and a lame attempt at fiberglassing over it.
driftke70
2nd November 2007, 11:00 AM
you guys must just buy cars and go ooooo mumma and hand over your cash then go home and look at the car.
Both my rollas i bought were stock so no dodgey mc dodge.
Gilly
2nd November 2007, 11:13 AM
when i was cleaning my engine bay for paint (white ke70) i was blasting all the grease of the rails and a big chunk fell out of the right one that was filling a nice big crease :(
blasted the other side to reveal a matching big chunk of muck, too, hiding another kink :( x2
thats the only time i've been fkd
i'm pretty anal when i inspect my $500 shitboxes
RobertoX
2nd November 2007, 12:37 PM
yeah the supra has had rivets in it for 12 years, and it has made 1000 hp and done countless 10 sec passes and it only has a half cage so they must do something
driftke70
2nd November 2007, 02:28 PM
only bad thing i ever heard about rivets was ueo had trouble with them wiggling loose in his hachi and went back to his last years seam welded body.
I wonder if nut certs would be any stronger.
kaibeecee
2nd November 2007, 03:34 PM
just weld
cheaper, faster, cleaner etc.
just make sure you don't have to unpick the welds, as it's a four-letter word per minute kinda thing
verm69
2nd November 2007, 04:12 PM
you'd honestly be surprised how much weight a rivet can hold... and you have to remember that you use a few hundred... so it's strength in numbers. Besides, if D1 drivers like Ueo do it, it must do something! otherwise they wouldn't bother
dr1ft-pig
2nd November 2007, 04:15 PM
when i bought my car, all seemed fine, now itff the road and i have stripped it i found a hole cut in the boot floor with an angle grinder which exposes a hose clamp for a fuel line (dogey)
then once i had finished stripping i found a small bit of rust in drivers foot well, nothing bad, bit of surface rust and a few pin holes ill weld it up when i can be fukt
thats about it for my dogey experiences
ae71
2nd November 2007, 04:20 PM
ah, alot of these are old cars.. quite a bit of this isnt dodgy, its just that they are old, a lot have been crash and had repairs...
Its when block have had engine cement stuffed in them because they have had a crack in them or, yeah your chassis is creased that its dodgy.
Having rust in your rear archs.?? OH NOSE!!! not like toyotas are known for rusting there..?
Jessi
2nd November 2007, 04:29 PM
I drove for about 2 weeks wondering why my rear right hand wheel scrubbed when going round corners.. Turns out my chassis had torn in two so when turning corners the wheel would move out sideways. We plated it back together
riojin
2nd November 2007, 04:35 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AEE86 @ Nov 1 2007, 11:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=429875)</div>
When i picked up my car i immediately drove it back home (about 750km!). I got back ok, but when I went over the car later i found the drivers seat was screwed to the floor with wood screws and a piece of 4x2 as a base. If that wasn't scary enough i had a stuffed master cylinder and booster ie screwed brakes, the indicater stalk snapped off on the way, no horn, no washers, no stereo, and i had no high beams. The rear bottomed out over most bumps. The diff whined like a bitch and there was a constant petrol smell in the cabin. I was glad when i got home albeit with a splitting headache. At least its all fixed now..[/b]
i had the exact same problems with my car except i didnt have the petrol smell, dodgey seat and snapped indicator stalk. but i also had bogged over rust and when i went to sand my car to spray it i found after i stripped my rear passenger quarter that they sprayed over bog that was still squishy! they must not have put enough resin in it and thought to themselves "eh, ill just spray 2 pack over it".
jezz
2nd November 2007, 05:08 PM
Some random examples of dodgyness from mates
Garden hose for gas line.
fuel pumps and wiring mounted on fuel soaked wood with nails holding everything in place.
Slightly off topic, bigass heater in shed, with a table besided it with all sorts of paint and flamable material.
rich_86
2nd November 2007, 05:22 PM
there is some fckin funny shit on this topic i thought mine was bad...lol...my seat is actually bolted to the floorpan wit orig bolts no timber for me
driftke70
2nd November 2007, 05:36 PM
when i stripped out my tan rolla i found a pipe and cone piece under the carpet.
ae71neo
2nd November 2007, 05:51 PM
Planes are held together with rivets...
(albeit not the average pop rivet :P)
seek
2nd November 2007, 05:59 PM
the only thing i found that was dodgy on my 71 was the temp gauge, it doesnt move at all, and the fact that the 4ac had about 400ml's of oil in it.. but i spose you cant get tooo picky with $150 bucks.
jezz
2nd November 2007, 06:22 PM
Was talking to a mate of a mate the other night who's into the whole speedway thing. He's come across guys that try to pass off plastic piping sprayed as roll cages, WTF!
Blood Child
2nd November 2007, 10:16 PM
fully hektik best eva ghetto mod would be my sik front lip i chucked on tonight.
http://a120.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/76/l_d1c899dc431fe67d0c366a4d6450d07f.jpg
shinny
2nd November 2007, 11:28 PM
im my 86 the pod filter is squished between the radiator and overflow bottle,
and the throttle cable does a loop around the clutch master before it goes to the throttle body,
i guess thats what i get for an ebay car. <_<
Blood Child
3rd November 2007, 12:04 AM
+1 for the ke70 throttle cable doing loops.
kaneo
3rd November 2007, 11:48 AM
I bought my ae71 wagon back in february
Since then, i found the tyres were absolutely FARQED, i stripped some of the paint off where it has started to lift, and there was a rust hole as big as a softball made purely out of bog. dont ask me how they did it, they just did. it was fucking huge!
now the car has been repaired, and is getting a 4age put in, just waiting for paint in 2 weeks time!!
will post pics of improvement.
Kane
HRV-00S
3rd November 2007, 01:32 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ae71 @ Nov 2 2007, 04:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=430152)</div>
Having rust in your rear archs.?? OH NOSE!!! not like toyotas are known for rusting there..?[/b]
Was not so much the rust but the inch of bog over the top of it, all fixed now. Where I cut the worst of the rust out I used that cheap aluminium mesh stuff that's used for bridging holes in body kits only most people forget to glass over it :lol:
works great for holding up the bog in big holes :2thumbs:
hatzo
3rd November 2007, 01:42 PM
ive got a few more dodgy mods.
My mates turbo VN commodore had a pod filter attached to some
90 deg plastic plumbing bend slipped over the turbo inlet. You could just slide it off.
His earlier car, a 4age sprinter he had it attached the same way and he lost the Pod filter :lol:
The dodge mods on my first car , the might mitsubishi colt.
I weight reducted it to the max.
I Didn't patch up the the fire wall so fumes would enter the cabin.
The problem was I removed way too much rear weight which made it prone to
too much over steer. It had mad lift off over steer, Especially above 80kmh...
I used a coke bottle oil catch can.
I removed the whole air filter assembly.
n00bvak
4th November 2007, 04:25 AM
see here for all back yard dodgy shananagains my mates have concocted. too many to list so linky it is:
bodgepro (http://bodgepro.com)
stuntman
4th November 2007, 04:58 AM
i bought a car a few years ago and was driving it around for a while before i discovered it was giving exelent fuel econamy then i figured out that the fuel gauge was simply stuck, in fact it was superglued at about half way by the seller no doubt, filled it up and it had about 4 liters left out of a 40liter tank.
DavisJD
4th November 2007, 01:03 PM
I have a silicon elbow on my intercooler piping that has a slit in it.
We fixed it with a blu-tak like material and 'race tape'! Doesn't leak, yet......
My redbull oil catch can is spray painted black so it passes scruiteneering!
WHen I bought my car, the drivers fixed back seat had the 2 front bolts in, but the back of the seat was just sitting on a plank of wood so you were in the right sitting position.
Thats until you braked!
puzzigully
4th November 2007, 01:23 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GzePwr @ Nov 2 2007, 05:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=430231)</div>
Was talking to a mate of a mate the other night who's into the whole speedway thing. He's come across guys that try to pass off plastic piping sprayed as roll cages, WTF![/b]
dont some autosalon competitors do that
Wanabe_Garage
4th November 2007, 03:21 PM
I couldn't afford a cold air intake and exhuast for my ol' celica back in high school
so i got pvc to redirect air from under the car to the open air box and straped it down with my maccas work belt then i used a milo can for an exhuast tip
fully sick till i got canary for it
stuntman
4th November 2007, 03:36 PM
big as rear spoilers on stock standard cars hubcaps and all
jezz
4th November 2007, 09:37 PM
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GzePwr @ Nov 2 2007, 05:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=430231)
Was talking to a mate of a mate the other night who's into the whole speedway thing. He's come across guys that try to pass off plastic piping sprayed as roll cages, WTF![/b]
dont some autosalon competitors do that
[/b][/quote]
Possibly, but this is speedway where crashes happen all the time :P
HRV-00S
5th November 2007, 09:07 PM
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (racsov500 @ Nov 4 2007, 01:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=431020)
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GzePwr @ Nov 2 2007, 05:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=430231)
Was talking to a mate of a mate the other night who's into the whole speedway thing. He's come across guys that try to pass off plastic piping sprayed as roll cages, WTF![/b]
dont some autosalon competitors do that
[/b][/quote]
Possibly, but this is speedway where crashes happen all the time :P
[/b][/quote]
Autosalon guy's don't go to that much trouble, they just use the foam pool noodles!
Trailer queen's :rant:
rich_86
7th November 2007, 04:59 PM
thats quite dodge a plastic roll cage...real ones are available for round 500ish so y bother???
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