Stretched tyres

[maxhag]

hey guys,

I have a set of deep dish 14x7 rims. I picked up 4 new (second hand but only driven 10km on em) Dunlop SP Sport 175/60/R14's.
I tried 4 differant shops and they all said they wouldn't do it, as it's dangerous and the tyre would roll off the rim when conering, especially if going sideways...
I told them that it's common in japan, so how do they do it there? They said they dont know.. And i dont know either...

Are they right? Do i have to get a certain type of tyres?
I was trying just to get them put on the rims and not actually fitting them to my car.
I pleaded, and one shop fitted one tyre on one rim for me. It looked Awsome! Because i only had one fitted, it sat in my shed, not on a car. After 1 month, the tyre was totally de-flated......

Any advice? I really want stretched tyres, but dont want to die...

J Riftin

[Beau]

All you need to do is look the tyre man straight in the eye and without flinching call him a pussy!! it can be done, it just cant be done when you are thinking about commodores and men!

Then it will happen!

[blair]

find 165/65/14s (y)

tis what i run on 14x7's


NOT ON THE FRONT.

[Tyrie]

Did you try tuggeranong tyres?

Also jax in quickfit mentioned that the tyres they sold me for my 15x8s were illegally narrow, but they said "its not like they're going on a legal car anyway" :P

[chapl]

id sell them tyres and put 185's on

[maxhag]

wether they will fit em or not, legal or illegal, isn't really my main concern.
My concern is :
Is it dangerous? can they roll off the rim?

[Dish]

With max stretch they can, heard quit a few hairy stories of tyres coming off. If it's only a minimal stretch then there's not much to worry about.

[maxhag]

175/60/R14
Is that minimal or max?
Should i go with them or get 185's?

[maxhag]

with the one i got fitted, the guy said it would be ok for driving around a carpark, but wouldn't use em to drive with.
He also fitted it for free so he has no liability for it...

[Dish]

I'd go 185's simply cause it will be be better for grip, I've heard of more stretch than 175's on 7's, up to you. Pretty sure breno with the ke had 165's on his 13x7 -34 centrelines and that was fine.

[mello]

would 185/60 14 be legal for road use? ie.. rwc? registration?
just want to know as im getting tyres tomorrow *sorry if im hijacking the post*

[Robo86]

i run 195/60 on 8's and 8.5's, safe as houses

u should be fine with 175 but if ur worried go 185

[biggo]

i run 165/70 on 8's

yes it is bad, but worth it. check you pressure every week and genreally only run them on the back unless you have a fuck up.

still, its not they last longer than a month anyway :P

[maxhag]

i got em fitted today, but there is one problem. One of the rims has some rust on the inside of the wheel and it's not making a perfect seal.
After 1 hour, tthe pressure fell from 34psi to 29psi :o <_< :( :( :angry2:
can that be fixed you think?

[steroidchickens]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Maxhag @ Jan 19 2008, 04:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=471430)</div>
i got em fitted today, but there is one problem. One of the rims has some rust on the inside of the wheel and it's not making a perfect seal.
After 1 hour, tthe pressure fell from 34psi to 29psi :o <_< :( :( :angry2:
can that be fixed you think?[/b]


you just have to take the tyre off, give the rust a sand. than repaint the insied of the bead and will be fine.
dont let them go down to much.

my tyre guy puts 175s on my 7s all the time. he just laughs at me and calls me an idiot! :lol:

[maxhag]

thats what i was thinking, except for the paint
Good idea
Have you done that before?

[Tyrie]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Maxhag @ Jan 19 2008, 05:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=471451)</div>
thats what i was thinking, except for the paint
Good idea
Have you done that before?[/b]

My dad did that with some old 4x4 rims that were rusted to shit, real bad pittign etc. He spent a few hours on each one with a flapper disk on the grinder and then painted them and they were good as new.

[blair]

we're talking about tyres going on the rear's right...

[maxhag]

any particular type of paint?

[Tyrie]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Maxhag @ Jan 19 2008, 05:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=471466)</div>
any particular type of paint?[/b]

I think my dad just used some cold gal (grey primer lookin stuff) but i'd say a tough exterior gloss would be better? Engine block paint or something.

[maxhag]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Blair @ Jan 19 2008, 05:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=471464)</div>
we're talking about tyres going on the rear's right...[/b]


cant they go on the front?

[steroidchickens]

what are the rims made of? are they steel, alloy, chrome dipped??

i would just some sort of kill rust paint or something similar from bunnings. make sure it is an all in one primer paint ;)

[maxhag]

they are steelies

[maxhag]

why can i not put these tyres/wheels on the front?

[steroidchickens]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Maxhag @ Jan 19 2008, 05:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=471475)</div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Blair @ Jan 19 2008, 05:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=471464)
we're talking about tyres going on the rear's right...[/b]


cant they go on the front?
[/b][/quote]

i think he means, 175s wont do much for you in the way of grip.

[steroidchickens]

steelies no problems. depending on how bad they are, grind them than sand them starting with about 80 grit than go 180 grit. than rust convertor than paint.
done!

[maxhag]

well it's raining here in canberra. i went for a drive before and it was good. Back slides out (easily) with no understeer at the front......

[blair]

locker?